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  • This whole thing was beautiful and she didnt wiggle like she about to fall off so that was a amazing job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • maaaan, this was 20 years ago..mindblowing! and I love Kathy's commentary. tim, elfie, and al just annoy me to no end.

  • Poor Bo ALWAYS seemed to have problem on beam when it mattered- otherwise- she was the best I ever saw on this event. Agree with all the pro Kathy Johnson comments- wish it was her and Bart on NBC/Olympics- Tim and Elfie just aren't very good....and Elfie's never won anything- Kathy's a World and Olympic medalist- and American- shouldn't American TV have American analysts???

  • I really wish we had a different angle for her FF+ LOSO+ LOSO combo so that we could see her perfect 180 degree. Same goes for her Yang Bo. I wish it was a perfect side view of the beam.

  • @ShawnVikaKomova2012 None of her videos really have a good angle to show off the Yang Bo leap, really annoys me, it's one of the best BB skills to be honest.

  • @bernardmvella It's one of my favorites. Love the Teza too. The landing's the only difference (obviousy).

  • I never really understood why did the coaches keep that double back dismount if they knew she was unable to hold it [since she rarely ever stuck it]. They could've had some more difficulty on her beam [not like it wasn't enough already] and with her amazing execution, they could've went for a less difficult dismount. But meh.

  • The Chinese are fantastic to watch on beam and bars!

  • Undoubtedly the best beam worker the world has seen

  • I know this will break my heart at the ending, but I still wanna watch it...

  • She is one of the few gymnasts who actually hit 180 on all of their elements.

  • Wow Kathy really lost it when Yang Bo stepped out of her dismount!

  • It's sad. She was like the Anna Pavlova of her day. So beautiful to watch, but would make mistakes when it counted most for her:/

  • The FIG should really just watch this beam final and design the next code of points around it.

  • One of the best beam workers never to win an medal. Probably at the top of that list.

  • @QuadPencheeTurn shannon miller won gold at the olympics, and she is by far one of the best

  • She certainly beats out others who may have been more artistic and original than her by her longevity in the sport and her hard work and determination. She certainly stuck around through hard times and deserved the gold in 1996.

  • i can imagine the commentator jumping of her chair screaming.. its great to hear that they feel so much for the gymnast..

  • Oh wow, even though I have seen this routine so many times, I still find myself willing her to stick her dismount, lol!! She really was in a different league than any other gymnast on this event.

  • @ralucagymnast Don't forget Dudnik!

  • But I am telling you a true, Yang Bo never win any of World Champion Title in her career. That is true.

    Can you just believe that??

  • I know, its such an absolute shame:( In big events, such as Worlds and at the Olympics, she would mess up. So sad, she was one of the most "natural" beam workers EVER.

  • I wish the double twist off the side of the beam had been more popular back then (it was in the code of points, but I never saw it before Khorkina). Maybe should could have stuck that more consistently.

  • i honestly believe she's the best beam worker to have ever lived!!! someone tell me if there's any other gymnast to move so fluidly from one element to the next!!!! untouchable!!!

  • @GosfordAbercrombie maybe shannon miller?

  • she's prob second!

  • @GosfordAbercrombie she placed 5th with a score of 9.887

  • @luv4cookie1 Shannon miller does not have the fluidity or natural "ness" on beam that Yang Bo does, no matter what her medal record is on it.

  • This is how gymnastics should be performed. Period. The dismount notwithstanding, a gymnast should be so lucky to ever achieve the perfection of movement that Yang Bo acquired. And a coach should be so lucky to teach an athlete to do this. She is phenomenally beautiful.

  • her landings are so painful to watch

  • like u

  • i wonder why she had back problems, jeez

  • Lovely and ethereal. I believe Yang should have won gold over the much easier routines of Bogi and less artistic one of Gutsu. I agree with someone who said Bo was born in the wrong era. She was light years ahead of everyone on beam. Same goes for Kui Yuan Yuan. I would have showered gold on both of those ladies as a judge. :D

  • isn't the aerial front walkover into scale combo the same one nastia liukin was pushing 2 be named after her in 2008? and now that i've seen someone else came before her, didn't yang do it even better?

  • Nastia performs a Nistor, an aerial front to scale support on the same leg. Yang Bo lands on one leg and then steps into a needle scale. That is a different skill.

  • Thank you for explaining this! I love gymnastics but sometimes I miss some of the technical aspects. Now that we're on the subject-I believe of all people Yang could have done a 'Nistor' right up to a full 180 split scale. If anyone could Yang Bo could :)

  • Acutally Nastia performs a front pike to scale, or is at least credited as such. Nistor and a lot of other gymnasts do an aerial to scale.

  • that dismount makes me want to cry.

  • She always had trouble with a double back dismount. Maybe she should have learned a different one, probably a 2 and a half twist

  • She seemed to do well with twisting skills like the Rulfova. I wonder if the Chinese coaches were simply dead set on a double back dismount - or perhaps Yang herself was. I would have definitely tried to have her go for a twisting dismount. So sad.

  • No one really did twisting dismounts during this time period unless they were doing an easy double twist or a triple twist (very rare). Double twists off the side weren't popularized until the next quad (Khorkina) and 2.5 twists weren't seen until a bit later.

  • I see.

  • twisting skills are technique-based, and the multi-salto are power based.

    the majority of chinese team are great at the technique but not that good at natural power.

  • probably because they are smaller in size??

  • actually she lands most of her double backs quite well, check out her team final routine. she only seems to mess up during event finals!

  • yep. Kathy should be i charge of all gymnastics commentating in the US. Sack the NBC horror trio and let her run the show, i say!

  • lol, i agree i cant stand tim & elfi. they should let ppl like bart and amanda do the real competitions like worlds and the olympics.

  • @Listaday that would be nice..maybe Kathy doesn't want to do it

  • @Listaday yeah, she is so positive and informative at the same time. I like her. That and her voice doesn't make me want to rip my ears out.

  • skei moooi

  • She always fucked up that dismount. Shame.

  • It is a shame scoring was so high then. Her big mistake was a mandatory deduction of atleast a tenth, and back then scoring was so high that gauranteed her being right out of it. In a later year with tougher scoring she might have actually still won since this could be a base score of close to 10 even in later years when the top scores for others were 9.8+.

  • "OH NO!"

    Gotta love Kathy, she's the most passionate and unbiased commentator ever!

  • I love Kathy Johnson too. I miss her commentary so much. I do not care for Elfie

  • I love Kathy with all my heart. Plus she wasn't afraid to call Romania on there code whoring and boring routines.

  • Kathy is an awesome commentator. I wish she would be hired by a European network.

  • Is this competition outdoors?

  • i think its an enormous stadium w/o a roof

  • She's a natural beam worker. =)

  • Yang Bo is out-of-this-world gorgeous. She is heaven-sent!

  • stupid commentators jinxed the dismount. they did that with shannon miller's too!

  • Yes I am sure the fate of the gymnasts lie in the hands of the commentators!

  • OMG her flexibility is amazing! I heard another commentator say that the switch leap with the head flipped back is called the Yang Bo? is that the same combo that Ling Jiya performed when she won gold at the 00' BB finals?

  • Ling Jie won the beam event final in the 99 worlds...the 2000 olympic beam champion is liu xuan

  • Thanks for the spelling correction. I meant to ask is the switch leap named after Yang Bo the same one that Liu Xuan used when she won the BB finals in the Sidney Olympics?

  • yes Liu Xuan did use it in her 2000 olympic EF rouine but not as good as yang bo

  • Many Chinese gymnasts have used this since Yang Bo but I still haven't seen one that arches the back as much - everyone throws their head back but I don't see the back arch as deeply or for as long.

  • the leap you're mentioning is a switch ring. the yang bo is a jump, it goes straight up in the air.

  • @TuesdayPillow I agree. She does it the best. Not like Memmel where she can barely do her own spin. Fan Ye did pretty good Yang Bos.

  • I love that front aerial to walkover combination, she does those skills better than anyone, and such elegant form. She is like a swan in motion on this event.

  • i couldn't agreee with you more, you couldn't make a front walkover more beautiful and elegant.

  • that beam routine of Yang Bo's is legendary in gymnastics

  • Her 1989 Worlds routine is even more legendary and painful to watch due to the dismount at the end. Yang Bo is the greatest gymnast never to win beam Olympic Gold.

  • This is the second athlete I've seen you say the choreography too. Maybe you just don't understand the sport as well as you think you do

  • lacked some choreography? it's anytime better than ANY american gymnast in the history of gymnastics... is there any american that had better choreography?

  • I don't think ANYONE had better choreography. Well, maybe Catalina Ponor, Fan Ye and Kui Yuanyuan could be a few millions of miles behind her in choreo but Yang Bo is undisputedly the best beam worker in the history of gymnastics.

  • Ponor should never be in the same sentence as Yang Bo. What an insult. I dare you.

  • LOL, well I did say they were millions of miles behind her. But NO gymnast could ever touch Yang Bo on beam!

  • ponor has very good form but no where near as artistic as yang bo. i also believe that carly patterson would have won by the smallest margin had she not had the smallest hop on her arabian dismount. those two were the best on that event in 2004 olympics.

  • @agators212 Fan Ye was incredible on beam in 04 too. She was just inconsistent and her execution was poor.

  • @ShawnVikaKomova2012 yeah which is unfortunately especially as she was the reigning world champion. if all 3 would have made the finals and perfromed flawlessly i think it would have been very very close between each of them

  • @agators212 Yeah. I think Fan would've won with Ponor closely behind and then Patterson.

  • @ShawnVikaKomova2012 i think the one reason why fan might not win would be the dismount. as clean as her double back are a stuck full in or stuck arabian from ponor or patterson might end up making the difference. if ponor decides to actually lock her legs out for it to be a full in pike she prolly would have won even though i really love how soft everything carly seems to do on beam. carly is weird on beam but in a good way. everything just seems to float. love ponor's onodi, such control

  • @agators212 Really? I didn't like Ponor's Onodi. I prefer Pavlova's. Then again, Pavlova's the queen.

  • @ShawnVikaKomova2012 yeah ive always loved how ponor always slowly lowers her back leg on the onodi. i love pavlova's also but i always paid more attention to her switch ring leap because its the best on beam that ive seen. she's the only one that takes her head and back leg as far back as she does on the floor. unfortunately, kinda like yang bo pavlova always has a small yet big enough mistake to take her out of the medals. even though cheng fei was overscored. i still love cheng though

  • @agators212 Pavlova's switch ring is the best on beam or floor. Her calve muscle is at head height. Pavlova's such a headcase, as was Yang Bo. Cheng Fei was overscored. She shouldn't have medalled in either EF.

  • @ShawnVikaKomova2012 yeah still love pavlova, maybe not to the degree i love yang bo but i love pavlova. love cheng fei especially for her vaults but yeah with all her bobbles and getting like a 15.9+? and she was one of the first people to perfrom? such a travesty. not as annoying as gina gogean winning beam at 97 worlds over kui but still. after pavlova's mental laps on vault and floor i wanted her to get a medal of any kind on beam

  • @agators212 Aww, you reminded me of the screwed up beam final of 97... I would've loved to see Pavlova take home the gold... Shame.

  • @ShawnVikaKomova2012 haha 97 worlds is one of if not the most angrying gymnastics memory i have. i still hate to watch a lot of it other than a few routines and i kinda believe it was when i started to notice khorkina's ever growing diva attitude

  • @agators212 Yeah, I don't know how Kui ended with bronze...

  • @ShawnVikaKomova2012 yeah, haha but im glad that those types of moments don't happen too often. ive recently been reliving my favorite gymnastics period 87-89. it also doesnt hurt that my two all time favorites silivas and dobre are within that period and the introduction of yang bo in 89, bogi, and the unsung and often forgotten US great phoebe mills

  • @agators212 That was a great period. I love Dobre, shame about her career.

  • @ShawnVikaKomova2012 yeah love dobre. i go back and forth between her and silivas. its a shame that she was pushed to compete through her injuries rather than get better. one of those "what if" moments. if dobre, silivas, and shush all competed the all around without any mistakes. the 88 AA is my favorite competition ever because of the level those two performed but had all three of them? man i would be in gymnastics heaven

  • @agators212 I see some Dobre in Komova. I absolutely loved the 88-96 period. 88 and 92 were definately the best Olympics. I can see 2012 possibly surpassing them. Speaking of "what if"s... What if 84 was not boycotted? Easily, Mostepanova would've won.

  • @ShawnVikaKomova2012 haha...yeah mostepanova would have been the favorite for sure. i also think there would have been an awesome 3 way tie for gold on bars with macnamara, ma, and mostepnova...the 3 M's? haha

    as much as i appreciate mary lou she would have gottan silver or bronze. but if there was a gold medal mary lou should have won in 84 was vault over szabo and her horrid form on her pike half.

    what happened to romanian gymnasts? the use to rival soviet form and lines and were clean?

  • @agators212 Haha, that's awesome. I didn't realize that but there probably would've been! Mary Lou "Thank God for the Boycott" Retton was incredibly powerful. She definately deserved vault gold. I liked Szabo better than Retton.

    I know! Romanians have bent knees on their LOSOs and everything else! All the AA gymnasts they produce are like 5th or 4th place material! When are they going to get that gold? Iordache could potentially be that one. I love Porgras. She would've dominated in 92.

  • @ShawnVikaKomova2012 i like szabo on beam and floor, even though mary lou's DLO on floor was gorgeous. vault i give ML and i like her bars better than szabo also.

    yeah romania doesn't have a strong all arounder thats atleast competant on all four evens. last one was raducan. progras would have dominated 92 yes, i agree. early 90's was the beginning of romania's lack of artistry even though milo won 92 floor with a 10.0.

  • @agators212 Mary Lou's speed was superb. Her double layout is still one of the highest ever, and the floor wasn't as springy. Retton was definately better on vault, maybe bars.

    I agree. Gogean is kind of the perfect example of Romania's lack of artistry, haha. I still love her though. I'm just praying that Iordache will up her difficulty a bit on bars, and then she could possibly be an Olympic champion. She once scored a 15.4 with a DTY and is training two 6.5 vaults!

  • @ShawnVikaKomova2012 the thing about gogean was that i really really liked her 95 floor. imo its her best floor but a lot of the things she does is uninspired. i don't know a whole lot about lordache but ive been hearing her name for a while now around the time i heard of komova. i should look her up at the recent romanian championships

  • @agators212 95 was definately her best. Floor was definately her best too. She lacked a lot of passion and connection. She had so many sticks in her career though. Iordache's incredible! Her beam, I think, has a 6.6 difficulty, bars 5.9, currently a 5.8 on vault, and a 6.1 on floor, I think. She has really good execution too. If she ups her difficulty on bars a bit and gets the Amanar, she could definately win the AA in 2012. She's still a junior this year! You're right, her body is like Betty's

  • @ShawnVikaKomova2012 Iordache maybe needs another skill or more connections on bars. maybe get her start value up to atleast 6.3ish because that amanar will help the most if she gets consistent with it. i like the floor, she still kinda has that going with the motion that romania is kinda known for now but i think she'll get better the older she gets.

    there are a lot of great things to look forward to for 2012 i really don't know whats gonna happen but its exciting.

  • @agators212 It's hard to make predictions because the field is so deep. Iordache has the consistency and execution, she just needs, like you said, the Amanar and another release.

  • @ShawnVikaKomova2012 i also don't know what the romanians are gonna do because they need bar workers and i don't know if they have the vaults to contend. the us and russia have the vaults and russia and china have the bars. everyone is pretty even on beam and floor if the us acutally doesn't have a mental break down like mattie larson did poor girl :-(

    i think it would be even more exciting if there were 4 consistent teams battling for that gold team medal.

  • @agators212 They have the vaults. They will have 3 DTYs for Tokyo, I think. Izbasa, Chelaru, and Racea. Then there's Porgras (who claims to have a DTY, doubt it) in case Chelaru doesn't have the team. Also Ponor's great 1.5. For bars, they are okay. They have Porgras and Racea. Maybe Dragoi but I don't think she'll make the team. They'd have to use either Chelaru for bars or Izbasa. I don't think Larson's case was mental. The Rotterdam floor was too hard. 2012 could be that epic battle.

  • @ShawnVikaKomova2012 they still would need atleast an amanar or something. the us was able to maintain in the mix last year with the help of Asac

    larson, i don't really know if it was fully mental but i think it might be right now though. i think that bad experience is weighing on her right now unfortunately. cuz i loved her floor, it was so sassy and filled with attitude.

    im just wondering who the US is gonna chose. with bross out now they need bars even more now

  • @agators212 They probably do need an Amanar. I think Izbasa is capable of doing a Cheng. Her laid out Podkopayeva has great airtime and the 1/2 on part is perfect!

    Larson's definately really insecure right now. She's returning to elite for 2012, but she probably won't be going anywhere.

    I think Bross's injury really opens the door for Douglas or Macko Caquatto. I'd love to see Anna Li make the team, but Marta doesn't seem to care for her much. Bridgey's been inconsistent on bars.

  • @ShawnVikaKomova2012 i think the cheng should be worth more than the amanar IMO. it just takes so much more to do it well and get it around.

    i would like to see douglas and li make it but macko would end up being more valuable because of her experience. li has a lot of performance experience but i don't think she has shown enough consistancy just yet and with douglas melt down at nationals? hmmm, it is interesting.

  • @agators212 I agree. The 1/2 on part adds .2 in difficulty for that vault which I think is crazy because if you miss the 1/2 by even the slightest bit, your Rudi won't be landed cleanly. Cheng Fei's vault in the EF in Beijing was the perfect example. And very few are attempting Rudis. More lately than before, but still not that many.

    Yeah, I'm not too sure for the USA's team... It's not going to be the most consistent team.

  • @ShawnVikaKomova2012 the us seems to have a very up and down gymnastics history. they do really good then they have a lull. 84 was a break out year then 88 wasn't as successful. 91-96 was consistant good results, primarly due to kim zmeskal and shannon miller then 97-2000 was horrible. the start to their success again in 2001-02 and maintain that success all the way to 08. even though they still have had success in the past two worlds but i kinda think this might end up being another lul by 2012

  • @agators212 I think it'll be good for the US, but you're right. That was their history and it still might be. I think China's Beijing is going to be like the US's Atlanta. They rocked, and then they flub the next Olympics. I think China will do just that in Tokyo like the US did in Sydney.

  • @ShawnVikaKomova2012 yeah unfortunately, i like china a lot. i hope they get more consistant. this is more like russia's high again after the low that was 2004-2008 where they didn't factor as much as they should. im also kinda waiting for ukraine to get that one greally good gymnast again. since winning 92 and 96 AA karpenko would have won 2000 if she didn't pull a bross and fall on her last tumbling pass. haha, sad but every time i watch it i cant help but laugh cuz its such a funny fall

  • @agators212 China's not consistent and they don't have the difficulty right now. This is definately Russia's high since 2000 (even though they were pretty good in 2004). I don't know if Ukraine will ever have that standout =/. Ostapenko was their hero, now he's gone from Ukraine. I still don't understand what happened to Karpenko... That was so strange.... Sorry, but Khorki would've won 2000 if the vault wasn't messed up, haha.

  • @ShawnVikaKomova2012 karpenko, no a huge fan of hers because she was so robotic with her movements, had that chance to win...and it just seemed like she tripped and fell. khorki would have been the strongest had the vault not been screwed up. although i do like the vault table we have now. raducan would have been close behind.

    they should have restarted the entire competition once they learned that it was at the incorrect hieght

  • @agators212 I didn't care for Karpenko either. The vault table is of course much better than the horse. Although now we're seeing way too many Amanars and DTYs. I agree, they should've restarted but the Olympics was only a certain amount of days and they couldn't change the schedule a bit even though those gymnasts were training their whole lives for that one moment.

  • @ShawnVikaKomova2012 ok ive now watched Iordache clips. she's impressive especially on beam. she has one of the nicer triple twist dismounts on beam. hers bars are ok but she does need more just to be competitive and hopefully she's be able to upgrade her vaults soon. she's impressive. her body type reminds me a little of betty okino, that short upper body with long legs. it makes her leaps beautifully extended.

  • I always hated the fact that sometimes, the dismount is given more importance than the routine itself.

    I think Yang Bo was born in the wrong era. Had she performed under the new code, she would win the gold.

  • ugh i knooooow i hate that dismount thing, same goes for kui ywon ywon in.. 1997? was it? on beam, the year she lost to gina gogean, same problem where the dismount is everything.

  • except yang makes it look prettier.

  • i love watching her on beam!!!

  • You undoubtedly point out your lack of insight on the sport of gymnastics.

    The routine is distinct, poignant and absolutely captivating! She accentuates her precision and elegance with deliberate moves. DIVINE! Yang Bo is a gymnastics deity!

    I could see why you would be content with the current state of gymnastics.

  • The very BEST ever ! The most graceful, the morst artistic, the prettiest !!! Yang Bo was the essence og Art in Gymnastics !!!!! She exactly knew what Artistry really meant on her skills... She was marvellous !

  • She was very good but this was not her best routine.

  • I miss Kathy, she was always my fav. Not Elf. But I will never look at another chinese gymnast again, after seeing coaches in a chinese gymnast training video, hitting, and pulling the hair of young girls who would mess up. Sad! Yang was the bomb tho!

  • They did what to them?! Where did you see that at?

  • Chinese are so great on the beams but what is wrong with the dismount? Mo Huilan also had trouble with her dismount.

  • Absolutely captivating! Yang Bo erred on the dismount but had the most enthralling and poignant routine comprised of exquisitely stylized difficulty. No doubt, this routine deserved the gold more than Boguinskaya! Tatiana Gutsu's routine was magnificent and difficult but a little too acrobatic...Okino & Milosovici should not have been on the podium.

  • Lol. She could have still pulled a 10 with a perfect routine and a double twist dismount.  Especiall if she had done a RO-BHS-Double Twist. Li Li used double twist many times and still got over 9.9 with gorgeous routines during the same quad. I think they just wanted her to go full difficulty, since she was undoubtedly the best BB worker in the world with the absense of Dudnik and Silivas.

  • Bo would probably have found a way to screw up the double twist under pressure, too. She was clearly not an under pressure type of gymnast, sadly.

  • she should have just done a double twist dismount since she cant land double backs and get away with a 9.90

  • I think this routine would have scored higher then a 9.9, much higher even with a double twist dismount. Bogi and Gutsu won gold and silver with 9.962 and 9.950 respectively and Bogis routine had nowhere near the difficulty of this, and Gutsus nowhere near the form or artistry. Even with an easy dismount this would have been the gold medal routine and thus scored higher then a 9.962.

  • Gorgeous but I liked her connections back in 1989 better layout walkover to immediate Rulfova without the pause in between. It was much more spectacular.

  • Lacked some choreography? You're missing the point of this routine and Bo's place in the history of beam. You should watch her 1989 EF routine. Again, she f's up the dismount, but you have to listen to the crowd. (the biggest fans of this sport). They knew it was the future of beam. You can hear how disappointed everyone was that she couldn't pull it all the way out. It's the first time anyone made the beam work for THEM and their skills.

  • I agree. Yang Bo's beam work was the best ever. She had so much precision, elegance and form. There is hardly a single gymnast today who comes close to this kind of refinement.

  • always worst landing

  • Kathy's reaction to the steps on the dismount is priceless!

  • I think Kathy Johnson was a very professional and insightful commentator who was able to rise above the politics of sport. She is informative and passionate. I wish she would do the commentating for the Olympics and not the very mediocre and practically ignorant twosome Elfi Schlegl and Tim Dagget.

  • I agree, I don't understand why Elfie and Tim are on NBC, they are mean and annoying, whereas Kathy always remains unbiased

  • Yang Bo was ahead of her time here. Beautiful routine!

  • What was the result? I think this routine deserved at least a 9.90. If I was a judge, I would have given it a 9.95, despite the error in the dismount, because of the poise, amazing difficulty and virtuosity. I would have also been very severe on other gymnasts who probably didn't make noticeable mistakes but lacked presence, amplitude and difficulty.

  • Based on the scoring back then, I probably would've given 9.850 because of the steps back on landing and the slight balance check after her Yang Bo jump. But yeah I agree about scoring others lower if they lacked all those things you pointed out.

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