I agree that the concepts, methodologies, and goals of psychology and Christianity are incompatible. However, it is psychology, not Christianity, that has the better track record of actually helping people. The people in the film rely on logical fallacies (the Strawman Argument against psychology, the False Dilemma in support of Christianity, etc.) and cherry-picked information from both sides, as well as outright lies to support their arguments.
Psychology is evil. I believe that for many reasons, I have seen one reason first hand. That's the drug issue.
Psychology is legalized drug pushing. I used to take messages for psychologist. Most of the messages were irate patients demanding refills of their prescription drugs. These people would yell, cry and cuss you out for their drugs.
I don't think it is a coincidence that the people who go on shooting, killing rampages, have been on these dangerous, mind alternating drugs.
Psychology is the biggest frauds known to mankind. It origins are linked to seances and spiritualism. The fact is that psychology is another religion which teaches it own way of salvation and has its own priests--the therapist.
Make no mistake it does not have scintilla of scientific evidence.
Well said thinkingman07 . . . I'm impressed that you made a connection between Psychology and Spiritualism. Many do not realize that the issue between Psychology and the Church today is essentially identical to the issue between Phrenology and the Church during the 19th century. And I really mean identical, from the expertise stance to the notion that pastors needed their special insight to better treat or counsel people. It is quite fascinating and pathetically sad as well.
How on earth can you equate measuring bumps on a person's head with the counselling profession today? Your knowledge of Christian Counselling is woefully inadequate, you're not in a position to dismiss something you misrepresent so glibly and arrogantly. Speak to some evangelical Christians whose relationship with their Heavenly Father has been nourished and improved by the Spirit working through therapy before you condemn a whole ministry of the Church.
I totally agree with one of the speakers that stated that that only the Lord through the Holy Spirit could reveal what is inside a human's heart. As a Social Worker I totally agree and respond positively to this statement. People need Jesus Christ within their hearts. Yet, professionals are somehow "helpful" but only Christ can get into the deepest buttom of a human's heart and CHANGE the person. Something that all professionals are 100% LIMITED.
The chap speaking at 3 minutes 15 seconds has grossly misrepresented the therapist, he is stating (I'm afraid in ignorance) that we claim all adverse events in a persons life are a result of external influences. This is patent nonsense and shows his utter lack of knowledge regarding this valuable discipline. As a practitioner I invariably deal with (challenge in fact) the client's responsibility in regard of their situation. This is a natural part of the work.
Therapists may never claim that their profession is the answer to all. However, alot of these people regard their so called "ways" on curing the mind of the person but if you look deeply on their analysis, they also make mistakes. So, to be clear on this,(To all people and not only Christians) why would you seek counseling to these people when God Himself by the person of Jesus Christ is Your Mighty Counselor? He is the way the truth and the life and his truth shall set you free...
It sounds like these commentators are "splitting", Psychology - bad, Bible - good, and never the twain shall meet. I've never met a therapist who would claim their profession is the answer to all things, most are Christian and hold firmly to the belief that Jesus is "The" Way. I've also met Christians who have been released from crippling mental health issues through psychotherapy, the result has 'always' been praise to God the provider of "all" healing (physical, emotional and psychological).
I agree that the concepts, methodologies, and goals of psychology and Christianity are incompatible. However, it is psychology, not Christianity, that has the better track record of actually helping people. The people in the film rely on logical fallacies (the Strawman Argument against psychology, the False Dilemma in support of Christianity, etc.) and cherry-picked information from both sides, as well as outright lies to support their arguments.
eancarana 3 years ago
Agree with you. I enjoyed your argumentation
Marianofrv 2 years ago
Psychology is evil. I believe that for many reasons, I have seen one reason first hand. That's the drug issue.
Psychology is legalized drug pushing. I used to take messages for psychologist. Most of the messages were irate patients demanding refills of their prescription drugs. These people would yell, cry and cuss you out for their drugs.
I don't think it is a coincidence that the people who go on shooting, killing rampages, have been on these dangerous, mind alternating drugs.
Sandie4111 3 years ago 3
Psychology is the biggest frauds known to mankind. It origins are linked to seances and spiritualism. The fact is that psychology is another religion which teaches it own way of salvation and has its own priests--the therapist.
Make no mistake it does not have scintilla of scientific evidence.
thinkingman07 3 years ago 3
Well said thinkingman07 . . . I'm impressed that you made a connection between Psychology and Spiritualism. Many do not realize that the issue between Psychology and the Church today is essentially identical to the issue between Phrenology and the Church during the 19th century. And I really mean identical, from the expertise stance to the notion that pastors needed their special insight to better treat or counsel people. It is quite fascinating and pathetically sad as well.
7Pelagius 3 years ago
How on earth can you equate measuring bumps on a person's head with the counselling profession today? Your knowledge of Christian Counselling is woefully inadequate, you're not in a position to dismiss something you misrepresent so glibly and arrogantly. Speak to some evangelical Christians whose relationship with their Heavenly Father has been nourished and improved by the Spirit working through therapy before you condemn a whole ministry of the Church.
deanshrink 3 years ago
I totally agree with one of the speakers that stated that that only the Lord through the Holy Spirit could reveal what is inside a human's heart. As a Social Worker I totally agree and respond positively to this statement. People need Jesus Christ within their hearts. Yet, professionals are somehow "helpful" but only Christ can get into the deepest buttom of a human's heart and CHANGE the person. Something that all professionals are 100% LIMITED.
Eagle00pr 3 years ago
The chap speaking at 3 minutes 15 seconds has grossly misrepresented the therapist, he is stating (I'm afraid in ignorance) that we claim all adverse events in a persons life are a result of external influences. This is patent nonsense and shows his utter lack of knowledge regarding this valuable discipline. As a practitioner I invariably deal with (challenge in fact) the client's responsibility in regard of their situation. This is a natural part of the work.
deanshrink 3 years ago
Therapists may never claim that their profession is the answer to all. However, alot of these people regard their so called "ways" on curing the mind of the person but if you look deeply on their analysis, they also make mistakes. So, to be clear on this,(To all people and not only Christians) why would you seek counseling to these people when God Himself by the person of Jesus Christ is Your Mighty Counselor? He is the way the truth and the life and his truth shall set you free...
kigawman 4 years ago
It sounds like these commentators are "splitting", Psychology - bad, Bible - good, and never the twain shall meet. I've never met a therapist who would claim their profession is the answer to all things, most are Christian and hold firmly to the belief that Jesus is "The" Way. I've also met Christians who have been released from crippling mental health issues through psychotherapy, the result has 'always' been praise to God the provider of "all" healing (physical, emotional and psychological).
deanshrink 4 years ago