@Caitsith810 i think rear hvac works better then the roof ones in my opinion. i have been on buses that have roof hvac and they dont do as well as the rear ones do
@TheMidnightGuy Yes, Novabus is located in Montréal, we had LFS (regular model only I think) since 1995. This articulated version called "LFS Artic" came this year in January, which is very late. Just to tell, we never had any articulated buses in Montreal until this year, which is a shame. So many bus lines were full of people before they appear, plus the heat and everything. Also, our subway system never had any door signal until this week I think, lol.
Ohh really, then why the Nova RTS' in the Bronx was considered problem buses? New Flyer, NABI, VanHool all make more reliable buses, VanHools are strong buses actually, but the agencies that buy them generally don't take care of them. The LFSA we got had messed up windshield wiper, intercooler gets hot too quick, and the lights burning out already. I saw that bus and never got on it. Once it got on the Bx12 it was fucked up already.
I actually like the 3 door concept, something that the M15 needed for years. I gotta agree with the rear, it looks like total shit. The Voith Transmission sounds like trash. The windows....well I like the windows, favors good sound while recording.
The windows on the Orion VII NG is what gives it the striking look that it has. Without those windows they are basically Orion VII with an exit announcement.
OMG you are so damm lucky I wish I took your place for that I love it. Love this video its the far best. I hope I see a M15 Bus like that I wanna ride it. 5 stars up.
They have either '99 D60HF or the '03-'05 stage D60HF which I call them New Flyer D60HF Bright Edition because of the brighter lights and cleaner interior. The '99 D60HF will be replaced by some future artic, most likely MB Citaro hybrids but the MTA might decide to go somewhere else who knows. Nova LFS artics will go to 126 street and Micheal J Quill depots. They should get digital ads inside and out.
The Bronx has more 60ft buses than Manhattan, and newer ones at that. Brooklyn, Queens And Staten Island are also getting the new artics/displaced artics.
I know that. Gun Hill Depot uses them on alot of routes which frankly don't need them like Bx4, Bx5, and Bx39. What's crazy is that Bx28 is more crowded than those routes and Bx28 uses mostly 40ft buses. Most of the new artics 2003-2004 are in the Bronx with Bx12 SBS taking about 25 of them.
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Wow damn, I must have struck that sensitive nerve of yours. If you like NovaBus that much, why dont you just buy the damn vehicle and go foam in your own driver seat.....
I liked novabus until they introduced the LFS Diesel on the M23 years ago. I did not like how that looked, but when it comes to performance, I think the hybrid LFS is better than all of them.
that's too bad that your opinion about new flyer is somewhat harsh. you would be surprised how we have improved over the years. you might be surprised - give us another chance. ride one of our state-of-the-art BRT's...
I hope these LFS/LFSAs will come to Toronto by 2013-2016. We're flooded by so many Orion VIIs and retired all New Looks.
TTCOrionVII8100 6 days ago
its a vantooll bus :P
darczi81 4 months ago
this was something to see but this white all around looks good to me and as for 0059....The Windows make the bus look better then this EXT. look
knightrider411 6 months ago
too bad they took the njtransit articulated buses away from kearny because that huge type of bus has caused many accidents in tight turned streets
vhpenna 9 months ago
What a beauty, added to favorites.
talldude123 11 months ago
Why didn't NovaBus bring them back to the MTA's Flatbush Depot? You know Flatbush desparately needs some NOVAS.
AdmiralArcher 11 months ago
i like the current ones better.
R32OrionNovaBus 1 year ago
the engine is too loud
R32OrionNovaBus 1 year ago
@ Caitsith810. I thought so. I can tell that Voith whine a mile off.
1100HondaCB 1 year ago
Is that fitted with a Cummins engine and voith gearbox?
1100HondaCB 1 year ago
@1100HondaCB - yes sir
Caitsith810 1 year ago
Lol, that looks better than the current model!
mtattrain 1 year ago
@mtattrain - Totally disagree on that note. This one doesnt have a ROOF HVAC whereas the current model is more streamlined and has a roof HVAC!
Caitsith810 1 year ago
@Caitsith810 Well, it is a prototype.
mtattrain 1 year ago
@Caitsith810 i think rear hvac works better then the roof ones in my opinion. i have been on buses that have roof hvac and they dont do as well as the rear ones do
rmx77 1 year ago
@Caitsith810
How long is the Bus ?
kennjohnsen 7 months ago
@mtattrain I agree.
engineersdash8 8 months ago
now thats 60ft!
fedders4 1 year ago
Damn, do they look ugly. And they're noisy too.
Ma3Hu1 1 year ago
Are they the same as in Quebec city?
TheMidnightGuy 1 year ago
@TheMidnightGuy Yes, Novabus is located in Montréal, we had LFS (regular model only I think) since 1995. This articulated version called "LFS Artic" came this year in January, which is very late. Just to tell, we never had any articulated buses in Montreal until this year, which is a shame. So many bus lines were full of people before they appear, plus the heat and everything. Also, our subway system never had any door signal until this week I think, lol.
sinning1966 1 year ago
o great seems great
HarrisonChan1220 1 year ago
are all your demos # 00XX?
STMclassic 1 year ago
DAMN those are the Sexiest Articulated buses that I've ever seen, especially coming from a Nova.
GOD I LOVE NOVAs!!!!
qwandiddy 2 years ago
what is that thing between the bus and the trailer at 0:25 what is that called?
Sims3fan2000 2 years ago
@Sims3fan2000 I believe it is called a "vestibule."
trainmanlars 2 years ago
thank you at least someone in this world is smart!!
Sims3fan2000 2 years ago
Couldn't help but notice the engine noise. Seemed loud for newer technology buses.
jfamolare 2 years ago
This is a demonstration bus so that means that they're still testing it.
BasesLoaded123 2 years ago
these busses only run on the M15 so far?
koolmazin 2 years ago
wow we have some of these buses in montreal, but i havent seen them go in the snow yet! luckily winter is here! lol
MrTransitfan 2 years ago
I like these new buses :)
these NovaBuses have 3 doors unlike the New Flyer Articulated buses which only have 2.
BasesLoaded123 2 years ago
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Bx29Nextel 2 years ago
i saw this on the Bx12 once
youngyasha 2 years ago
They are NOT so good in snow condition, we had them jacknife in snowy condition in Quebec City.
Kaynos 2 years ago
I heard they have orderd 90 of these do you know on which routes they might put these?
violinest1 2 years ago
So far for Gun Hill (BX12 Select) and 126 Street (M15 Select) with some 1000-1100 series Artics to retire or displaced to other depots
DayDayJ16 2 years ago
They have ordered 86 currently. I work at the plant that will be building these. They are a nice bus.
Ellesar68 2 years ago
It must be nearly impossible to pass other vehicles in that thing.
iaintgonletup 2 years ago
Actually it is possible, The artics that currently run on the M15 passes vehicles quiet nicely
Caitsith810 2 years ago
Of course it's possible. It's only roughly 20 feet longer than other buses in the MTA fleet.
busrailfan 2 years ago
Ohh really, then why the Nova RTS' in the Bronx was considered problem buses? New Flyer, NABI, VanHool all make more reliable buses, VanHools are strong buses actually, but the agencies that buy them generally don't take care of them. The LFSA we got had messed up windshield wiper, intercooler gets hot too quick, and the lights burning out already. I saw that bus and never got on it. Once it got on the Bx12 it was fucked up already.
Orion6104 2 years ago
I would like to see some evdience that supports your statements.
BrIaNMeRcY1022 2 years ago 4
proof?
Caitsith810 2 years ago
The only reason that the NYCMTA is going to buy this bus is because its made in New York State
jackiechan511 2 years ago
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s88thebus2 2 years ago
I rode these for my 2 day trip to NY. I'm loving the ISL engine to.
NewFlyerGuy 2 years ago
since the MTA is ordering these buses,well these buses be diesel that there ordering right?
s88Limitedbus 2 years ago
the NOVABus LFS Artic that is coming next year,they will replace all the 1996-1998 D60HF. ;)
s88Limitedbus 2 years ago
I'm actually starting to like these buses now.
LightningFever86 2 years ago
That joint mad ugly in the back. Everywhere else is fine. 3 doors is stupid still. Not a big fan of the of the 3 door buses.
landoverdivision321 2 years ago
I actually like the 3 door concept, something that the M15 needed for years. I gotta agree with the rear, it looks like total shit. The Voith Transmission sounds like trash. The windows....well I like the windows, favors good sound while recording.
Caitsith810 2 years ago
The M15 should have been the first line to have SBS service. Traffic along 1st and 2nd Avenues is worse then Fordham Road.
BrIaNMeRcY1022 2 years ago 8
When will the MB Citaro come to NYC?
LightningFever86 2 years ago
never.
s88Limitedbus 2 years ago
I don't think MB Citaro will come to NYC, as I know that NYCMTA was already ordered 90 Novabus LFS articulated buses~~
billlmf 2 years ago
That's stupid! I really liked the MB Citaro :(
LightningFever86 2 years ago
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s88thebus2 2 years ago
Oh okay, good.
LightningFever86 2 years ago
It would of been good if they would of made the articulated RTS. This is the closest thing we could all get for now.
jfs1988 2 years ago
they did made an articulated RTS once,but it was a test unit only.
s88Limitedbus 2 years ago
the Demo Bus #0055 never came to NYC.
s88Limitedbus 2 years ago
Why do all of the Nova buses have the curvy fronts?
JW72093 2 years ago
wow with those lights inside it seems like an r160 with a bus body
pspguy4 2 years ago
When is New York going to get it's first articulated hybrid bus?
JW72093 2 years ago
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s88thebus2 2 years ago
WOW!!! Novabus is back in the US!!!!! i thought they were only operating these buses in Canada???
vze428s7 2 years ago
Cannot be true. Bx12 uses New Flyer D60HF buses retrofitted for Select Bus Service.
JW72093 2 years ago
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They did test on the Bx12 local, not SBS
SixSensesOfAudacity 2 years ago
As soon as the Novabus plant opens somehwere in NY state, the NYCMTA will start buying this bus in mass numbers
jackiechan511 2 years ago
That bus is ugly. What makes it ugly is those windows.
ECDT1089 2 years ago
agreed! why can't it have those Orion NG VII kind?!
yanli66 2 years ago
The windows on the Orion VII NG is what gives it the striking look that it has. Without those windows they are basically Orion VII with an exit announcement.
JW72093 2 years ago
I know that but thanks alot
Allen1628famm 3 years ago
A BIG TEST RUN ON THE M15 BUS
hesterjumper 3 years ago
It even has a rear window...
sammydenyc 3 years ago
OMG you are so damm lucky I wish I took your place for that I love it. Love this video its the far best. I hope I see a M15 Bus like that I wanna ride it. 5 stars up.
Allen1628famm 3 years ago
You still have a chance, its still running on the M15 :)
Caitsith810 3 years ago
Your right I do And one day I will
Allen1628famm 3 years ago
Huh? What about the Mercedez Benz artics???
LightningFever86 3 years ago
Yes, I want my MB citaro G!
yanli66 2 years ago
I want to. the test bus for NYC looks good and better than this bus here.
JW72093 2 years ago
Those are going to replace '99 New Flyers or could replace Nova RTS on some overcrowded routes in Queens and Brooklyn.
JW72093 2 years ago
they will replace the 1996-1997 D60HF NOT 1999 ones.
s88Limitedbus 2 years ago
Which means that they will only run in Manhattan. The MTA needs to realize that Manhattan is not the only borough that needs 60 foot long buses.
JW72093 2 years ago
Broxns gets 60 footer bus also.
s88Limitedbus 2 years ago
They have either '99 D60HF or the '03-'05 stage D60HF which I call them New Flyer D60HF Bright Edition because of the brighter lights and cleaner interior. The '99 D60HF will be replaced by some future artic, most likely MB Citaro hybrids but the MTA might decide to go somewhere else who knows. Nova LFS artics will go to 126 street and Micheal J Quill depots. They should get digital ads inside and out.
JW72093 2 years ago
but first the 1996-1997-1998 D60HF will be replaced first.
s88Limitedbus 2 years ago
The Bronx has more 60ft buses than Manhattan, and newer ones at that. Brooklyn, Queens And Staten Island are also getting the new artics/displaced artics.
Caitsith810 2 years ago
I know that. Gun Hill Depot uses them on alot of routes which frankly don't need them like Bx4, Bx5, and Bx39. What's crazy is that Bx28 is more crowded than those routes and Bx28 uses mostly 40ft buses. Most of the new artics 2003-2004 are in the Bronx with Bx12 SBS taking about 25 of them.
JW72093 2 years ago
You have no idea how crowded the Bx4, Bx5, and Bx39 gets during AM/PM rush hours(especially during school). They do need them.
LightningFever86 2 years ago
I agree. There are some routes that need them more than those routes you mentioned.
BrIaNMeRcY1022 2 years ago 7
This is a Canadian company based in Quebec (find it on a map) that will be designing and/or building these buses
jackiechan511 3 years ago
Canadian made Nova Bus FTW!
geraldv3 3 years ago
OH,DAT IZ SO COOL!
BayRidge86 3 years ago
You guys coudlve gotten any articulated bus in the world but that!!!!! They shoudlve gotten NABI ^) BRT buseor son Arcticualted NewFlyer BRT Buses!!!
WMATAvids 3 years ago
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s88thebus2 2 years ago
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You must have smoked that good weed cause that bus is more butt ugly than wendy willams....
SixSensesOfAudacity 2 years ago
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s88thebus2 2 years ago
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Wow damn, I must have struck that sensitive nerve of yours. If you like NovaBus that much, why dont you just buy the damn vehicle and go foam in your own driver seat.....
SixSensesOfAudacity 2 years ago
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s88thebus2 2 years ago
I would have been happy as hell if we got NABIs or New Flyers, but damnit this ugly piece of shit had to be ordered
Caitsith810 2 years ago
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s88thebus2 2 years ago
I liked novabus until they introduced the LFS Diesel on the M23 years ago. I did not like how that looked, but when it comes to performance, I think the hybrid LFS is better than all of them.
Caitsith810 2 years ago
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s88thebus2 2 years ago
OOOh thats why ive never seen it....i wonder what happened it looks good
drumnasty1 2 years ago 2
Any bus manufactures is better than New Flyer. Its bad enough that the D60HF's destroyed the M14.
BrIaNMeRcY1022 2 years ago 6
that's too bad that your opinion about new flyer is somewhat harsh. you would be surprised how we have improved over the years. you might be surprised - give us another chance. ride one of our state-of-the-art BRT's...
kolokoybombie 2 years ago
Wow she looks nice
8v71buses 2 years ago 5
Those buses are not needed yet,the other buses we have right now are doing fine and the old buses do not need to retire until they turn 20 years old.
Windowsxpfan2103 3 years ago
eh... the bus looks ok. Never seen it before.
Mtarulez68 3 years ago
Damn, that shit is ugly! -_-
ILoveThickChicks88 3 years ago
it almost look like a new version of the GMC fishbowl bus
campsports3 3 years ago 5
thought the reason they were trying the double deckers was b/c these articulated buses r too hard to drive+interfere with traffic
herenthere 3 years ago 2
Is it possible that they may stick with this?
ECDT1089 3 years ago
This is my first time seeing this bus in action. Thanks for providing the vid!
sammydenyc 3 years ago
When are more coming in? Are they going to Manhattanville?
BTW Great video!
Krisricky627 3 years ago
! of the routes they are really needed on is the b35. That route is very crowded. m34, m16, m42 is also very crowded.
gmcbuses 3 years ago
i never saw that kind of bus in nyc before...
Maserati7200 3 years ago
That's why it's called an exclusive video.
landoverdivision321 3 years ago