"365 million year old species!" ha ha ha - anyone who actually accepts that figure needs to be locked away in a mental hospital. SO, you found a few crumbly old bones and now you say you have the answer! Again, anyone who believes this crap needs to be locked up.
Evolution is just like religion (albeit no god). They found one fossil of this tiktaalik and created too much doctrine around it. Now you have tetrapod tracks in Poland which predate tiktaalik by millions of years, and evolutionist are scratching their heads. It's funny how evolutionist claim to be so rationale and objective, and yet they commit the exact same mistakes as the religious.
Religions Aside....ABIOGENISIS = all life came from Rocks......it is the Foundation of "Evolution"....so.... if you believe this....your pet rock or space rocks will come to life and spawn millions of species.....Think...."Magic God Rocks"???...
Do The Math...Unlike People It Does Not Lie....
50,000,000,000,000 cells in a human.....3,500,000,000 years for "Magic Rock" to evolve to a human......."Magic Rockers"....It Is Time For A New Theory....
Evolution is a hilarious fairy tale! They are all fish. There is no transitional fossil record or it would follow in a very simple down from up pattern. We have no idea what this fish actually looked like, evolutionist always create something that looks like something they want to exist. This fossil in person looks like a northern pike or a Snake-head, it does not look like an alligator as the drawings indicate. Evolution is just as much a religion as any of the other world religions.
@Desertphile Exactly why would a logical statement make me an idiot? Typical of a Liberal, if you can't compete in the arean of logic you resort to name calling. What is it like to live in a life of ignorance and myth by the way?
@Desertphile Exactly why would a logical statement make me an idiot? Typical of a Liberal, if you can't compete in the arena of logic you resort to name calling. What is it like to live in a life of ignorance and myth by the way?
@jase3217 There is a large transitional fossil record. Ignoring it won't make it go away. Saying that the large record doesn't exist won't make it go away. The Tiktaalik fossil was found (not 'created')in Devonian stratigraphic layer in Nunavut and shows clear transitional properties of fin-to-limb. Just because you have piss-poor anatomy skills doesn't mean you get to ignore facts. Finally, such a fossil was predicted to exist in that layer, in that place, on the back of evolutionary theory.
@ianman6 Really there is a large transitional fossil record? Where are they? You must be the only one that has seen them, name on animal that has a clear transitional record, just one? The fact is you can't. Based on the mathematical odds alone evolution can't happen, so it's illogical to ignore the math.
I'd be more than happy to see the transitional fossils, but every time an evolutionary religious fanatic claims to have found one they are later revealed to be a hoax.
@jase3217 You clearly don't understand evolution. First, it isn't a 'religion'. I get the pitiful analogy you're trying to make, but religion and evolution are miles apart. That's another matter of discussion though. Second, all fossils are 'transitional' technically. The theory of evolution states that all forms are in transition (either gradual or through punctated equilibrium). But that aside, a simple example of a fossil considered transitional is archeopteryx. There are many others.
@jase3217 Literally hundreds actually (did you forget about Tiktaalik already? It shows transitional features). The more recent you get in geological time, the more you find (statistically fossilization is unlikely, it's incredible we find those that we do). We have found numerous early humanoid skulls showing transition from primitive to modern features. Whales have vestigial hind leg bones. Shall I continue? You have no case. Creationists and ID proponents often repeat this bogus claim.
another example of the awesome power of evolutional predictions is the genetic evidence of our shared ancestor with the chimpanzees...man thats what i call an experimental prediction. just awesome and exactly what you would expect for evolution
Evolution does not even require fossils to be observed and confirmed
LOL!!! A drawing of a creature that never existed oh boy its like that hominid they ve build with a pig s tooth.What s next?They will try to prove evolution with a slug ?Yeah thats it Millions of years ago a little rock incrusted itself in a slug then this rock became a bone then millions of years later the slug became a frog ,i think i will stop here its sounds like a fairy tale but if i had a Phd it would pass as science
@SonofJaphet The key phrase here is 'if you had a PhD'. No one would mistake what you said for science, except someone dumb enough to even imagine granting you a PhD. I think your post is one of my favorite misrepresentations of evolution so far. Thanks for that at least!
@SonofJaphet What, you have nothing intelligent to say so you want to play 'stump the evolutionist'? Let's say I didn't know the answer (earliest naturalistic biological thought can be traced back to Anaximander in the 7th century BC, but rudimentary notions of biological flux and change are probably much older), what do you hope to accomplish? There, I answered you. Now comes the part where you retort with some bullshit answer, tell me I'm wrong about everything, and then pretend like you won.
Hate to break it to you, but Tiktaalik is no longer considered a 'missing link'...
"Ancient Four-Legged Beasts Leave Their Mark" (ScienceNOW, January 6, 2010)
"Researchers have uncovered the earliest evidence of four-legged animals. Footprints and tracks preserved in the mud of an abandoned quarry in southeastern Poland date back 395 million years, UPENDING accepted thinking about when and where land animals first emerged...
"In some of the prints, individual digits can be made out. That means land animals already had feet 9 million years BEFORE the finlike structures of Tiktaalik and Panderichthys. In addition, some of the tracks show an animal walking with a diagonal, coordinated gait impossible for finned creatures...
"Other paleontologists are taken aback by the discovery of the tracks. 'We thought we'd pinned down the origin of limbed tetrapods,' says Jennifer Clack of the University of Cambridge in the United Kingdom. 'We have to RETHINK the whole thing.'"
I wish....that we'd get away from saying "transitional forms," because all forms are transitional -- all forms are in evolving with each generation, if only a miniscule amount of change. Of course, I know what is meant by the term; it's meant to describe the forms which are between major taxonomic groups, but sadly, creationists zero in on this and misuse it.
@ChuckyJesus666 Funny about that - for years evos were in pursuit of the missing link - now they claim that there would be none! Talk about blind fools.
I grew up in Colorado near the Morrison formation on the eastern slope of the Rockies. There, the pressure from below thrust up and shattered the underlying Jurrasic ocean shoreline. I recall walking along the front range and finding beachfront ripple marks cast in the sandstone, with occasional footprints scampering across and disappearing into a later deposit. All layered and tilted at 30 degrees. Awesome video. Origin of species is TRUE prophecy.
It is really awesome when you realize that those ripples formed during a single day, isolated by so many years of obscurity, then reexposed, sometimes for just a few decades or centuries, when you happen to come along. Understanding deep geological time is what led Darwin to his theory, without Lyell and others leading the way, his insights would have been much more difficult....the cascading effects of good science.
"Your Inner Fish" is a very fun book, and also extremely educational. As you mentioned so well, evolutionary theory predicted and predicts what we will see in the world: that is the epitome of a valid theory.
"Your Inner Fish" is not that expensive either; only $16.32 online. Haven't checked my local bookstore that I prefer to support. It should be required reading in intro college science or even in high school.
DefaultPosition, It may well be. There are certainly more researchers in diverse fields that rely on it than anything else I can think of. However, one could also think of that widely supported "Theory of Agriculture" -- "planting will give you more food"--most of us are citizen scientists and true believers when it comes to that, but, of course, the seeds only exist due to evolution and that's how crops are improved over the generations -- through "unnatural selection".
"Whilst gravitational theory uses different models on different scales evolution is consistent across all scales."
That's not entirely true. Evolution like any theory has variance in its model, and there is plenty of disputes, like gradualism vs. punctuated equilibrium, relation of the bat to shrews or other mammals, whether angiosperms evolved within the gymnosperms from a gnetophyte-like ancestor or from progymnosperms or spermatopheridophytes etc.
Do you really think there is serious disagreement amongst scientists about punctuated equilibrium? Dawkins refers to "variable speedism" as a way of describing how scientists really view it - i.e. a combination of bursts and gradual change. I thin its fair to say that has been established since the 70's.
I have no idea if or to what extent the other subjects you raised are disputed. They are specific points that concern specific species, Do they really impact the theory of evolution?
Hmm... Well my AP bio book had them out to be somewhat equally tested, although I guess it could be a bit old, and there are a lot of cases like the other two. In any case, the Theory of Evolution is still great; all of the great works in science are to some extent a work in progress.
I think the fossil and genetic record now shows a combination of both gradual and sporadic change. I'm sure there are people on this site who know more about the contemporary opinion on that subject.
Yes, science is by definition not a closed book, it reflects the sum of our knowledge at that point in time which grows as we continue to gain access to more info'.
On the question of whether natural selection has been gradual or sporadic, the answer seems to be both. Climate's spatial and temporal variability suggests that it is clearly sporadic in some places and times, while other places and times exhibit more gradual evolution due to less extreme selection pressure. Places change and times change semi-independently, so I think of evolution responding along a complex spacetime continuum. With that, Einstein was more correct that Darwin or Gould.
Fin to limb transitions? YOU LIAR! You have nothing that proves any of this.
jbooks888 3 weeks ago
"365 million year old species!" ha ha ha - anyone who actually accepts that figure needs to be locked away in a mental hospital. SO, you found a few crumbly old bones and now you say you have the answer! Again, anyone who believes this crap needs to be locked up.
jbooks888 3 weeks ago
@jbooks888 Typical Christian, nothing but a name caller....and the people who claim to hear god...shouldn't they be locked up in a mental hospital?
ChuckyJesus666 3 weeks ago
This is gonna piss off the christians
EpikToest 1 month ago
@EpikToest So what?
shadowknigth95 1 month ago
hahha stupid evos
janole3711 4 months ago
@janole3711 Stupid christians
shadowknigth95 1 month ago
Yes~~!! we found fossils of 4 legged being 18 mil years before Tiktaalik...
Science? I don't think so... You set hypothesis up first and find the evidence.
we didn't have to do anything but read bible and believe in it. haha...
Believe in Jesus, You won't be ashamed. and You will be saved
TheWoshipper 4 months ago
Evolution is just like religion (albeit no god). They found one fossil of this tiktaalik and created too much doctrine around it. Now you have tetrapod tracks in Poland which predate tiktaalik by millions of years, and evolutionist are scratching their heads. It's funny how evolutionist claim to be so rationale and objective, and yet they commit the exact same mistakes as the religious.
Colthrone 4 months ago
you are an idiot
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Religions Aside....ABIOGENISIS = all life came from Rocks......it is the Foundation of "Evolution"....so.... if you believe this....your pet rock or space rocks will come to life and spawn millions of species.....Think...."Magic God Rocks"???...
Do The Math...Unlike People It Does Not Lie....
50,000,000,000,000 cells in a human.....3,500,000,000 years for "Magic Rock" to evolve to a human......."Magic Rockers"....It Is Time For A New Theory....
Math Has Imploded The Old One....
songforamericans 4 months ago
What a diaper load of bunk!
YouAreIsrael 1 year ago
Evolution is a hilarious fairy tale! They are all fish. There is no transitional fossil record or it would follow in a very simple down from up pattern. We have no idea what this fish actually looked like, evolutionist always create something that looks like something they want to exist. This fossil in person looks like a northern pike or a Snake-head, it does not look like an alligator as the drawings indicate. Evolution is just as much a religion as any of the other world religions.
jase3217 1 year ago
@jase3217 ; Idiot.
Desertphile 1 year ago
@Desertphile Exactly why would a logical statement make me an idiot? Typical of a Liberal, if you can't compete in the arean of logic you resort to name calling. What is it like to live in a life of ignorance and myth by the way?
jase3217 1 year ago
@jase3217 ; "why would a logical statement make me an idiot?"
No.
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@Desertphile Exactly why would a logical statement make me an idiot? Typical of a Liberal, if you can't compete in the arena of logic you resort to name calling. What is it like to live in a life of ignorance and myth by the way?
jase3217 1 year ago
@jase3217 There is a large transitional fossil record. Ignoring it won't make it go away. Saying that the large record doesn't exist won't make it go away. The Tiktaalik fossil was found (not 'created')in Devonian stratigraphic layer in Nunavut and shows clear transitional properties of fin-to-limb. Just because you have piss-poor anatomy skills doesn't mean you get to ignore facts. Finally, such a fossil was predicted to exist in that layer, in that place, on the back of evolutionary theory.
ianman6 11 months ago
@ianman6 Really there is a large transitional fossil record? Where are they? You must be the only one that has seen them, name on animal that has a clear transitional record, just one? The fact is you can't. Based on the mathematical odds alone evolution can't happen, so it's illogical to ignore the math.
I'd be more than happy to see the transitional fossils, but every time an evolutionary religious fanatic claims to have found one they are later revealed to be a hoax.
jase3217 10 months ago
@jase3217 You clearly don't understand evolution. First, it isn't a 'religion'. I get the pitiful analogy you're trying to make, but religion and evolution are miles apart. That's another matter of discussion though. Second, all fossils are 'transitional' technically. The theory of evolution states that all forms are in transition (either gradual or through punctated equilibrium). But that aside, a simple example of a fossil considered transitional is archeopteryx. There are many others.
ianman6 10 months ago
@jase3217 Literally hundreds actually (did you forget about Tiktaalik already? It shows transitional features). The more recent you get in geological time, the more you find (statistically fossilization is unlikely, it's incredible we find those that we do). We have found numerous early humanoid skulls showing transition from primitive to modern features. Whales have vestigial hind leg bones. Shall I continue? You have no case. Creationists and ID proponents often repeat this bogus claim.
ianman6 10 months ago
another example of the awesome power of evolutional predictions is the genetic evidence of our shared ancestor with the chimpanzees...man thats what i call an experimental prediction. just awesome and exactly what you would expect for evolution
Evolution does not even require fossils to be observed and confirmed
Serpico261 1 year ago
Very well done, you should be better known than you are.
Subbed!
norcofreerider604 1 year ago
LOL!!! A drawing of a creature that never existed oh boy its like that hominid they ve build with a pig s tooth.What s next?They will try to prove evolution with a slug ?Yeah thats it Millions of years ago a little rock incrusted itself in a slug then this rock became a bone then millions of years later the slug became a frog ,i think i will stop here its sounds like a fairy tale but if i had a Phd it would pass as science
SonofJaphet 1 year ago
@SonofJaphet Nobody would ever mistake you for someone with a Phd.
gamesbok 11 months ago
@SonofJaphet The key phrase here is 'if you had a PhD'. No one would mistake what you said for science, except someone dumb enough to even imagine granting you a PhD. I think your post is one of my favorite misrepresentations of evolution so far. Thanks for that at least!
ianman6 11 months ago
@ianman6 So what ?Can you tell me who came first with the evolution idea ? Just answer me
SonofJaphet 11 months ago
@SonofJaphet What, you have nothing intelligent to say so you want to play 'stump the evolutionist'? Let's say I didn't know the answer (earliest naturalistic biological thought can be traced back to Anaximander in the 7th century BC, but rudimentary notions of biological flux and change are probably much older), what do you hope to accomplish? There, I answered you. Now comes the part where you retort with some bullshit answer, tell me I'm wrong about everything, and then pretend like you won.
ianman6 11 months ago
I wonder how the lung fish fits in all of this. Interesting video though.
Jenfucius 2 years ago
its a cousin of the tetrapoda proper.
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Hate to break it to you, but Tiktaalik is no longer considered a 'missing link'...
"Ancient Four-Legged Beasts Leave Their Mark" (ScienceNOW, January 6, 2010)
"Researchers have uncovered the earliest evidence of four-legged animals. Footprints and tracks preserved in the mud of an abandoned quarry in southeastern Poland date back 395 million years, UPENDING accepted thinking about when and where land animals first emerged...
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"In some of the prints, individual digits can be made out. That means land animals already had feet 9 million years BEFORE the finlike structures of Tiktaalik and Panderichthys. In addition, some of the tracks show an animal walking with a diagonal, coordinated gait impossible for finned creatures...
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"Other paleontologists are taken aback by the discovery of the tracks. 'We thought we'd pinned down the origin of limbed tetrapods,' says Jennifer Clack of the University of Cambridge in the United Kingdom. 'We have to RETHINK the whole thing.'"
AA32m7io1 2 years ago
I wish....that we'd get away from saying "transitional forms," because all forms are transitional -- all forms are in evolving with each generation, if only a miniscule amount of change. Of course, I know what is meant by the term; it's meant to describe the forms which are between major taxonomic groups, but sadly, creationists zero in on this and misuse it.
ChuckyJesus666 2 years ago 6
True, but it's far better than "missing link," isn't it?
Leehofooks 2 years ago
Decidedly, and I just reread my post and realized I mistyped....of course I meant "all forms are evolving."
ChuckyJesus666 2 years ago
@ChuckyJesus666 Funny about that - for years evos were in pursuit of the missing link - now they claim that there would be none! Talk about blind fools.
jbooks888 3 weeks ago
"Fishyyyy, fishyyyy....where is the fishyyyyy"
Eventually, these fish became the Monty Python crew.....
ChuckyJesus666 2 years ago
Congratulations on a great video. I hope this helps many better understand the force of evolution in biology. Good work.
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Lady paleontologist explains transitionals .Video paleo lectures added monthly/ bi monthly.
"Transitional Fossils in Evolution pt. 1 of4"
flyingscience 3 years ago
Great video
macthornberg 3 years ago
OK Ventastega, very few people I know would recognize Ventastega when seeing it.
Who are you, and what have you done with the morons on Youtube? Please do not hurt them, for they know not what they do (seriously, they don't).
Lagomort 3 years ago
I can't decide which your comment is; funny because its true, or sad because its true.
JebusGeist 3 years ago
That's me, what's up bitches
Ventastega 3 years ago
I grew up in Colorado near the Morrison formation on the eastern slope of the Rockies. There, the pressure from below thrust up and shattered the underlying Jurrasic ocean shoreline. I recall walking along the front range and finding beachfront ripple marks cast in the sandstone, with occasional footprints scampering across and disappearing into a later deposit. All layered and tilted at 30 degrees. Awesome video. Origin of species is TRUE prophecy.
CHAS1422 3 years ago
It is really awesome when you realize that those ripples formed during a single day, isolated by so many years of obscurity, then reexposed, sometimes for just a few decades or centuries, when you happen to come along. Understanding deep geological time is what led Darwin to his theory, without Lyell and others leading the way, his insights would have been much more difficult....the cascading effects of good science.
InReasonWeTrust 3 years ago
Good video. I can't understand why anyone would deny evolution after looking at the evidence. Just plain ignorance.
zomgomgomgz 3 years ago
Great job, fact and poetry of evolution of life.
thelistener13 3 years ago
Fantastic work. Looking forward to more.
Thank you.
hairyreasoner 3 years ago 2
good stuff here. i'll be watching :)
hellshade2 3 years ago
"Your Inner Fish" is a very fun book, and also extremely educational. As you mentioned so well, evolutionary theory predicted and predicts what we will see in the world: that is the epitome of a valid theory.
Desertphile 3 years ago
"Your Inner Fish" is not that expensive either; only $16.32 online. Haven't checked my local bookstore that I prefer to support. It should be required reading in intro college science or even in high school.
EvolutionToday 3 years ago
Great job, I'm looking forward to more.
Brianswers 3 years ago
I've been to Latvia. It has the greatest collection of Art Nouveau architecture in the world.
Is it true to say that evolution is one of the most well-supported and developed scientific theories that exist?
DefaultPosition 3 years ago
DefaultPosition, It may well be. There are certainly more researchers in diverse fields that rely on it than anything else I can think of. However, one could also think of that widely supported "Theory of Agriculture" -- "planting will give you more food"--most of us are citizen scientists and true believers when it comes to that, but, of course, the seeds only exist due to evolution and that's how crops are improved over the generations -- through "unnatural selection".
EvolutionToday 3 years ago
It's possible to think that evolution is the most well-founded scientific theory:
- It underpins all of biology
- Is intertwined with and supported by a huge amount of other scientific disciplines
Whilst gravitational theory uses different models on different scales evolution is consistent across all scales.
DefaultPosition 3 years ago
"Whilst gravitational theory uses different models on different scales evolution is consistent across all scales."
That's not entirely true. Evolution like any theory has variance in its model, and there is plenty of disputes, like gradualism vs. punctuated equilibrium, relation of the bat to shrews or other mammals, whether angiosperms evolved within the gymnosperms from a gnetophyte-like ancestor or from progymnosperms or spermatopheridophytes etc.
pyromania152 3 years ago
Do you really think there is serious disagreement amongst scientists about punctuated equilibrium? Dawkins refers to "variable speedism" as a way of describing how scientists really view it - i.e. a combination of bursts and gradual change. I thin its fair to say that has been established since the 70's.
I have no idea if or to what extent the other subjects you raised are disputed. They are specific points that concern specific species, Do they really impact the theory of evolution?
DefaultPosition 3 years ago
Hmm... Well my AP bio book had them out to be somewhat equally tested, although I guess it could be a bit old, and there are a lot of cases like the other two. In any case, the Theory of Evolution is still great; all of the great works in science are to some extent a work in progress.
pyromania152 3 years ago
Agreed.
I think the fossil and genetic record now shows a combination of both gradual and sporadic change. I'm sure there are people on this site who know more about the contemporary opinion on that subject.
Yes, science is by definition not a closed book, it reflects the sum of our knowledge at that point in time which grows as we continue to gain access to more info'.
DefaultPosition 3 years ago
On the question of whether natural selection has been gradual or sporadic, the answer seems to be both. Climate's spatial and temporal variability suggests that it is clearly sporadic in some places and times, while other places and times exhibit more gradual evolution due to less extreme selection pressure. Places change and times change semi-independently, so I think of evolution responding along a complex spacetime continuum. With that, Einstein was more correct that Darwin or Gould.
EvolutionToday 3 years ago
Good content and good production quality!
A4AgnstcFndmntlst 3 years ago 2
thanks!
EvolutionToday 3 years ago
Bit more than 3.5 million years ago though... 350 million would do.
XGralgrathor 3 years ago 2
Thanks for catching the typo in the description!
EvolutionToday 3 years ago
so clean and concise... keep em coming
EvoLIEtion 3 years ago
good vid
hippocampuszosterae 3 years ago