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  • Sounds like a pyramid scheme.

  • Yeah, he got let go due to this video.

  • aug 14 of 09?

  • No that was of 2008.

    Video was uploaded 8/7/08

  • I wonder if this guy was let go lol. I'll say this much he has charisma.

    @justin6762

    no we do not pay 30-35% in taxes that's ludicrous. We pay closer to 15.3% which isn't that much really after deductions. A part-timer like me, I ended up being owed 800 bucks so money is actually coming my way rofl! Health+Office standard reductions FTW!

  • Is it true you have to pay 30-35 % in taxes ? they wont let anyone talk about taxes on the forums.

  • Only 30% in tax? Lucky bastard.

    I'm paying 46%, after deductions!

    The high-income tax is 58%.

  • cha cha is a really awesome service

  • good video. you should make more about this issue. we need an update

  • Wait untill he tells about the latest bullshit they have pulled after August.

  • WoW! Your production quality is GREAT. One of the better videos I have seen on here. Curious how the strike went, are you still ChaChaing?

    And if so are you getting any questions? I have forgotten what b2b is like!

    Rock on!

  • YAY ChaCha!

  • Ohhhhhhh.

    I smell lulz.

  • Great video.. I am so sick of seeing companies screw people over just cause they think they can. I hope you make another video updatingus of the new situation,

  • I think you should check out the new changes...quite interesting indeed.

  • Lighten up Dude. If you don't like it get another job.

  • good luck az :)

  • FUCK ESTABLISHMENT! IF PEOPLE WANT ANSWERS THEY CAN GO AND FIND THE PROPER ONES THEMSELVES!

    ohlolz, google is allowed to remain though :P

  • never heard of chacha. Guess it's usa only?

  • Wow. Lot's of new people stopping by!

  • Yes but some of us LOVE your work!

  • lololololololololololololololo­lololol

    /facepalm YOU SUCK NI***R FU***R

  • Heh. Hello. You must be new to ChaCha. Enjoying the compromises ChaCha made due to publicity like this?

    The reason this won't be considered slander is... because it isn't slander. Might want to look that one up. Hell, ask ChaCha what it means.

  • hahahaaa

    nice

  • If you love it so much than you wouldn't mind making 1/2 as much right??..Because after all ; we could be sitting at home on our computers MAKING NOTHING.

    So since something is better than nothing, why should you strive for something better?

    Or something fair?

    And yes sometimes people get booted for standing up for what they think is right--I hope u enjoy the extra $ this "ass-hole" just fought tooth and nail for u to receive--

    Fuck u AND SHOVE YOUR IDEAS UP YOUR LITTLE MISCHEVIOUS ASS!!

  • You never fought for me. You fought for your own GREED! I am a VT and now and Expeditor also and I average about $30.00 a day doing it the honest way. So all in all YOU ARE THE LOSER! ould do it for half the price. You see I love helping others I do not put GREED where GREED does not belong. You were told should you have read the Contract in it's entirety, that ChaCha was NOT a GET Rich Quick paying job,. It was only to help pay off a couple bills. Now! Stop Defaming ChaCha ASSHOLE!

  • It's not about greed moron at 30$ a day it's about barely making enough money to eat-- if you like dumpster diving for food just so you can "love helping others" and don't need to protest for a decent wage that's your problem, but please don't blame us for not wishing to starve with you.

    And by the way I don't work for ChaCha i just recognize ignorance when i see it.

  • As I said before I have a Regular Job I work and a Home Based Business. ChaCha is just to fill in on the extra little things i want that otherwise I could not have. So get a REAL Job, Do Not Depend on ChaCha as a whole source of Income and you will get along just fine. PUTO!

  • Did you not read the part of; I don't work for ChaCha??

    As I said I'm good at finding ignorance.

    And for that spanish reply:Mamale los huevos a un perro puto pendejo

    PS: your reply "get a REAL Job" sounds like pure money hungry GREED!!!!!!!ahaahahah

    your such a hypocritical moron.

  • Shut up Judy!! You are one mean, nasty and miserable and STUPID old lady.

    fuck off

  • Judy, shut up you miserable old wench!

  • Glad I stumbled upon this video, sounds like a really interesting system

  • I didn't get payed. I am so pissed at ChaCha. They are soon becoming the scam that we feared they may be.

  • I work for ChaCha too!

  • So this seemed liked a good way to make extra money on the side, since I'm a full-time student. I figured that without the cost of gas or commute time, it would even out just a bit. I worked for 5 hours and did some math. I had made $8.80 after 100 questions. That's about $1.81 an hour. That is such a ridiculously low wage, not to mention nowhere near the $3-$9 I was told I would make while going through the training. I think this is a terrible way to treat the "independent contractors."

  • Answer faster. You're taking too long. I texted chacha the other day and it took 5 minutes for them to answer. That was probably you. Get your answers down to 1:30 or 2:30 and you hourly wage will increase.

  • ChaCha guides should check out ChaChaStrike on livejournal.

  • yeah this new policy sucks

  • Can't find a proper explanation of why you got fired? Or the reason the y gave at least?

  • this guy looks like king leonidas from 300.

    lol im subscribing

  • bring us more vids norton!!!! you came back for like a day as if to mock us and have since completely ignored us all!

  • so u got fired because you posted this video or for another reasons??

  • I really hate chacha now.

  • Simply don't participate in this...end of story,

  • chacha...that's my nickname...

  • RoseMirror it is screwing us over just as bad we get told our answers are bad but not WHY they are bad kinda like telling a kid they got an F but not why how would you like it if your teacher did that to you?

    Abunchanada and ilovealf Yes it is a job you have to take some tests before you get hired but why bother apllying unless you like to work for free it it aint always easy work people ask some hard questions or NASTY questions and you have to be nice to these perverts >:( no way

  • Is this really a job? answering questions? Sounds dope.. Is it really a job? Seriously?

  • is these peoples actual jobs

    or like a side thing?

  • My mom is a guide. She was pretty upset when she heard the news. Luckily they have just changed the policy again where it is not screwing over people as badly.

  • terminating you is a travesty. Cha cha has lost us. If you get reinstated, let us know. Who cha chas anymore, anyway?

  • Congrats!!! - It's amazing what people can do when they stick together, eh?

    Now let's get the two party duopoly out of DC and vote for some qualified people! You in?

  • I'd just like to say thanks! Because of guides like you speaking out, ChaCha has changed their policy somewhat (not completely) as of today. The number was lowered to 200 and there's some flexibility for those who have made top guide a few weeks in a run. Still room to improve, but at least they're starting to compromise, which seemed to be biggest hurdle.

  • Oh, man, that's great! I'll be sure to announce the changes in the description. I only wish I were still a part of ChaCha to really enjoy it!

  • Wow - I'm sorry that I didn't see this earlier. I would have called.

    You're right to be upset about the changes, and I hope that things get better (even though you're not working for them anymore). The bit about changing people from independent contractors to employees is very interesting...

  • Actually it's this Friday - so you still have time.

  • No no, it was the 8th.

  • Oh sorry - I thought I heard the 14th.

  • It's okay. It went really well, as far as getting people slightly organized and such.

  • Why does ChaCha only work when you call them from a mobile phone?

  • Why are you making this into an ethical issue? Maybe ChaCha is slowly realizing that BS like answering questions is not a valid basis for an industrial civilization. ChaChaChina is the only reason why nonsense like this can exist. That, and the fact that the public school system didn't do it's job to begin with. You should be tickled pink that you get one red cent for pretending to be Google or an encyclopedia. Its all because of inflation

    P.S.: Money is absurd. Forget about it. right?

  • Good call.

  • "why arent you on strike and are you worth 10 cents?"

    reply:

    "i m working so i can get on top guide and make 20 cents next week, thanks for asking!"

  • saying that money isn't the primary motivator is not the same thing as saying that money isn't a factor at all.

  • p.s. as of late last night, my cell phone was on a ChaCha Ban list. sorry i cant help anymo

  • "In the consciousness of the truth he has perceived, man now sees everywhere only the awfulness or the absurdity of existence and loathing seizes him."

    What do you make of this quote of Nietzsche, Azrienoch?

  • I asked: "Has anyone ever refuted the Law of Non-Contradiction in a published book?"

    Answer: "No. The Law of Non-Contradiction is a fundamental logical principle we can't do without."

    Exactly. Like Cha-Cha's answer. But, I feel like a creationist when presented with irrefutable proof of evolution. I can't find any hole in the logic, but I feel like there must be. "It just feels wrong". I haven't gotten much further in the book because I keep going back thinking there's got to be a real flaw...

  • Damn YouTube eating my comments! Now I have to retype....

    Sorry to hear you got canned. It was a risk I'm sure you were aware of when you made yourself the frontman for the strike and capitalized on your 'net fame to flood their system. I'm sure you aren't really in the mood to hear more cha-cha answers, but I have one from last night you might still appreciate:

  • ITS NOT FREE?!

    gahhh.

    i prolly spent like.. 2 dollars yesterday.

  • Unless they changed it last night, it's free.

  • This sort of squeeze is being put on a lot of call center / clerical jobs these days.

    What annoys me is the quality control mumbo jumbo that sounds like double speak while obviously putting a LOT of pressure on the workers.

    Its all stick and no carrot.

    Guess its back to plan B; Viva La Revolution!!!

  • Overall I'm with you Az. However, from 2:32 to 2:48 I'm cathcing an echo of why you may have not finished school. It's no big deal, just be aware.

  • Perhaps, but I did very well in school. I quit because I didn't like it.

  • Sorry about what happened with Cha Cha. If its an online thing, maybe you can change your identity around and get hired again under another handle?

    One of the reasons that I don't actually appear on youtube is because identites are not so flexible in the "real" (non-virtual) work place.

  • That would be illegal. ;)

  • So, I've sent 4 txts today, only one has been answered. Correctly, I might add. With extra information. I suspect that by now, "Who is Azrienoch?" is a VERY easy question. Also, I realized on the first one that it wasn't going to actually be free for me to participate in your "strike". I'm paying $.05/txt. So, I spent a whole $.30 on you today. I hope you appreciate my MASSIVE sacrifice...

  • Do you mean that you don't have texts with your cell company?

  • Yes. Exactly. I never txt. So I have to pay every time I do. My wife uses txts, so she has unlimited in network txts and 500 out of network txts. I don't believe Cha-Cha charged me anything. I wasn't really bitching, though. Just commenting. I was trying to make a joke out of it, but it appears to have fallen flat.

  • Sorry, it's not your fault, but my sense of humor has been dimmed.  I really, really appreciate your help.

  • The quality of an answer is subjective?

  • Rock ON, Az. I'm a fellow hapless Guide who has been ass-shafted (and not in a good way) by the ChaCha echelon comfortably nestled within their ivory towers while proffering meaningless and vague references as to their listening capabilities.

    * off to watch more of your vids *

  • i left a reply for you as a reply to yours where you are under snownets comment. i find everything very funny too.

  • I did similar work in the late 90s. It was also piecework but I figure I averaged $15-20 an hour and I took my time to do a good job.

    I think that even under the original arrangement you guys were being underpaid... Of course, maybe ChaCha wasn't making a profit even at the pittance they paid you.

    I hope your strike succeeds. But even more I hope you find equally flexible and enjoyable but more remunerative work. Go Az!!

  • is it just me; or is ChaCha completely backed up right now? i've sent 40 unanswered texts in the last 15 minutes

    :p

    r0cK 0n .

  • im spamming with texts "who is AZRIENOCH?!!!"

    lool. hopefully they google it.. see the video.. become educated and then grow a set and join the strike

  • LMAO

  • Very clever!

  • I like this question! I'm going to copy YOU!

  • @douv65 HAHAH! "Jeff Smith-Leudke, famously known as Azrienoch, is the author of ,'The Perpetual Wound,' and The Absurdity of Philosophy'."

  • Why won't TTA shut up?

    He feels strongly about his views. He doesn't like Christianity and wants to be heard -- Maria P.

    Why do you park in a driveway, and drive on a parkway?

    Parking in a driveway might annoy the neighbors! Driving on a parkway is fun! ChaCha again? -- Wiktor K. (WTF?)

  • can you post a link to that forum you were talking about earlier?

    i would loveee to spamm it up :p

  • just quit :p

  • they dont asnwer all of mine.

    stuff like "why do they put braille on drive-thru atms?"

    this is fun. :]

  • They're totally backed up.

  • oh wow, i was at the bar and heard about this popculture guy az and this video. so i watched it and just like the bartender said it mirrors the idiocy in payscale of a job i quit when it cost too much to pay taxes and work selfemployed. in other words, this guy az who admits he doesn't need the money is playin american hero, ooh yeah! the newbe's will always be there to replace the strikers. pov&helpless, i can't express the hate i've accumulated in my old age. he he az, hv yur own babee! god!

  • Oh yeah? What bar?

    I don't think I ever said I don't need the money... I need the money.

  • read your comments, thats what you said. what bar? WHAT DO YOU CARE!

  • I've read my comments. I never said that. If you'd like to quote what I said, maybe that would clear this up. And what do I care? People are talking about me in bars. I'm interested in where that might be and why.

  • yeah, you said that, keep looking prob it was the last 24 hrs. its a big country, don't be so pretentious about who's saying what about you. you're a cult personality here. get over yourself. you think you have something to defend, protect? your the same as all of us believe it or not. god!

  • You may not find this as funny as I do, but you're the one talking about me, not me.

    I never said I didn't need the money. It's impossible for me to have said that. This is my livelihood, and I'm fighting to keep it. Either you're making this up, or you misread.

  • not talking about you, you asked who is in the bar re YOu The country of Indiana. ;)

    "No, they don't take out taxes. We're independent contractors. And I wasn't promoting it. I'm promoting the strike. It's really only a bad option for someone who can't make enough to live on. I can, and I don't really value my time (monetarily, at least) above minimum wage" ...

    whatever, im tired of looking for the other remark.

  • You'll see from the comment that one was responding to that I'm answering a series of questions. "I wasn't promoting [ChaCha]. I'm promoting a strike. [ChaCha] is really only a bad option for someone who can't make enough [from it] to live on." I'm talking about how I don't work any other jobs, only chacha, because I can make enough from it to sustain myself. I don't have, say, kids to feed, like some Guides.

  • My question:

    'Why are you working instead of striking?'

    ChaCha --

    'I need money and I believe this system will work just fine!' -- Jeff A. (just kidding, it was Greg B.)

  • hehehehehe

  • No, they're supposed to answer every question unless it's illegal.

  • Actually, that's excellent. I've been watching the Guide forums pretty closely, and a number of threads have been started about these texts you all have been sending. It is easy to answer the strike question. Most will say, "Because I want to work." That you've gone ten minutes without an answer says that you probably won't get one. There are a couple things playing in our favor today: problems with their servers, fewer guides, and more texts.

  • There are an estimated 300 Guides on strike today. On any given day during the peak hours, there are maybe 1000 guides on. They must be feeling it a little. And they've just announced a whole bunch of contests for this weekend (funny thing to do when your servers are barely functioning).

  • The Guides that have been talking about our texts seem to be slightly peeved about them, but for the most part, they're thankful for the easy money, which isn't so easy on laggy servers.

    THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE SO FAR!

  • Could I send questions on AIM? And can I ask anything I want?

  • Unfortunately, no. I tried that. I also tried numerous texting sites, which also don't work.

  • Damn. Sorry I can't help in the strike, azrienoch. : (

  • hmm..what does cha cha make out of this? (i'll text and ask why they arent on strike lol)

  • so i sent them a message asking "why arent you striking like your fellow guides," and i got the response, "sadly, they are not striking." is this person out of the loop or are a bunch of people just refusing to strike?

  • Could be either. Might even be both.

  • Hope that that answer gets a bad rating. Lol.

  • Don't work for them. Easy solution. Come up with your own company and you can run it however you want. Stop your crying.

  • Ooooh, scab opportunity! Maybe they'll just ship your job overseas and .01/per question.

  • the monetary standard differs in region, cities, states, etc. i'm not financially minded but somebody knows what i'm getting at here... you have to consider that too. pay cuts everywhere...how much do we have, what do we need? eat and shit, hows the water?

  • kudos 2ur, awareness, effort - and good luck in that chacha plan, visibly executable and concerted.

  • everyone is saying (when i ask why they arent striking)

    "i wasn't aware there was a strike, but i like maying money!"

    i link em to your video; but i doubt they're even checking.

  • That's to be expected. The Guides that know about it are either striking as well, in which case, they won't be there to tell you that they are, or they don't want to strike. The Guides that knew nothing about it are there for obvious reasons.

  • we shoulda started a blog where we could talk about how our calls are going. lol.

  • So not only do you profit off of people's ignorance, showing what a vile little man you are but you also want others to help you with your immoral ways?

    You disgust me.

  • It would help greatly if you would clarify how I profit and how I'm immoral.

    If you are referring to my Youtube partnership, I made 5 cents last week. Judging by the passion with which you speak against me here, I'd say you're much more motivated by my receiving that 5 cents than I am, which means it is you, not I, that profits.

  • Interesting response.

  • So you took my comment seriously?

    Nice.

  • Woohoo! Activism from my desk, I love the internet! Wages, hours and conditions, biatch!

  • ok will do

  • changed my mind - even at .20 per question you should all quit, this is slave labor and what corporations do with workers in India and China - why are you promoting this by participating in such a system that lowers everyone's standard of living?

    Spend your time lobbying Congress to make such corporations pay a living wage.

    FYI: Effective July 24, 2008, the federal minimum wage for covered non-exempt employees will rise from $5.85 to $6.55 per hour.

  • As of now, I'm making minimum wage, and that's all I really need to make for the time being.

  • barely, if you're lucky - Do they take out for taxes and SS?

    Why are you even promoting this place? Seems to me someone should be calling for an investigation into labor practices. This isn't the food services industry where you earn tips.

    Something is very fishy about this place, what country are they located in?

  • The country of Indiana. ;)

    No, they don't take out taxes. We're independent contractors. And I wasn't promoting it. I'm promoting the strike. It's really only a bad option for someone who can't make enough to live on. I can, and I don't really value my time (monetarily, at least) above minimum wage.

  • now, now, azri I know you are smarter than that!

    Something smells very fishy - you know it and I know it -

    Now why can't I find cha cha's contact HQ address on their site?

    You're a chess player, what do you think my next move will be once I find their physical address?

  • "Smarter than that" means "thinks more like I do," in this context. I don't think it smells fishy. I think this problem is a product of naivety (they have a history of naive choices).

    The address is 14550 Clay Terrace Blvd., Suite 130, Carmel, Indiana 46032. It was located in the Copyright link at the bottom of every page. And I couldn't guess what you're going to do with it... write them a letter?

  • 1. "thinks more like I do"

    not entirely, however, practically and humanly.

    2. "is a product of naivety"

    I think it's more to do with greed than being naive.

    3. "14550 Clay Terrace Blvd"

    I'll send you the .20 for the correct answer.

    msg me your POBOX

    "4. write them a letter?"

    Guess Again? Hint: USSFC & USDOL

    Let me say I like the spirit of your strike, however, flooding their lines with the question is a double edge sword and I don't think it'll be a favorable outcome, see response #2.

  • As to 4, you're more than welcome. Either you'll be assured it's legal, or they'll be forced to do the legal thing. Win-win for me. ;)

    Well, they only get paid for questions answered. If there's a shortage of people, then they see how much money they're missing. If they manage to answer those questions, they at least know why there is an odd spike of popularity, and where that came from, showing that Guides have a bit to do with getting customers. Win-win again.

  • I like what you are doing- obviously I am pro labor - seeing you are the folks who are making this man a billionaire striking to keep 10 cents is the American thing to do.

  • But the arrogance of business in this country esp. in this field is so overwhelming I think ultimately you will fail and if there be any win, short lived. So I'm proving that I am a pessimist as well, least when it comes to this issue. That's not to say I would love to be proved wrong, oh, please prove me wrong!

    For I must confess truly, it get's tiresome to say, I told you so, over and over again.

    But I do like the good fight. So go get um! Then read my message again.

  • hahahahha!

    no... BLOW IT UP!

    :]

    im enjoying bothering them with questions; its killing 2 birds with one stone. im learning stuff that i want to know, all the while helping azz get food on his table

    ^.^

  • Hawt, thanks!

  • lol, for some reason when I saw "ChaCha" it reminded me of the porn director "ChaCha La Ru" :P

  • az, you totally sold yourself! Now you're advertising for corporations! You have become one of Them! :o

  • I sold myself by striking? Did you watch the whole video?

  • Probably not the place but how does one become a guide?

  • Go to their website and click on careers.

  • thank you

  • does it cost money to use it?

  • Nope, it's free.

  • cool! I willk call and spam the lines for ya lol!

  • there is no logical ground for your argument. chacha doesn't owe you anything at all. you aren't a slave, you can easily choose not to work for them. even 10 cents a question is more than any other website gives you. wikipedia people happily work for free.you only like chacha because they give you what seems like 'free money'... do you hear what you are saying?!?!?

  • I didn't sign contracts with "most websites." I like ChaCha because it's my job. I think, on the contrary, you should reconsider. You belittle my relationship with ChaCha because I work from home, but if I went somewhere to do the same thing, you'd have no comment. YOU think it's free money. I am under no delusions here. I earn it.

  • Hello ChaCha Guide, I regret to inform you that ChaCha will have to terminate your services as an INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR, not employee, due to your violation of ChaCha's Terms and Conditions.

    What were you thinking standing up like you have rights, you serf. Who do you think you are, Spartacus? Now lean forward real far so I can ChaCha Slide this big corporate dick up your ass.

    ^_^

    JK

  • This sucks. Cyber slavery.

  • Get a real job, bitch!

  • I never heard of it. I'll have to call.

  • hmm... looks like I have a few extra phone calls to make tomorrow....

  • do i get charged? if its free ill do it

  • Great video my friend! I will be joining you in the strike on Friday. I will also be texting the question, "Why are you working today? ChaCha guides are striking because of the new payment guidelines! Join us!!!" at 242242 few dozen times as well. Good idea! Independent contractors my ass! We're uniting baby!

  • Excellent, thank you!

  • Nice worth every penny of the ten cents

  • It's worth every penny of the twenty as well. (You don't, of course, pay this.)

  • Five stars!

    (unless I'm fucking you, in which case one star)

  • Thanks Javi!

  • How do you know I didn't fuck you?

  • Because I saw your rating. Plus, you're CousinoMacul. You are, to date, trustworthy.

  • im sorry this is really random.. but what gauge are your earrings? lmao sorry. just really curious.