Well, i totally agree with this video, there are some really gay and annoying things about death core, especially in the way the bands look like, but it's not true that ALL deathcore music sucks. Just listen to the All Shall Perish's album called The price of existence, the album is actually ok, there are some pretty interesting musical ideas and the brutality is on a satisfying level. I don't defend deathcore, i just say there actually are bands worthy of listening.
I can't believe the effort you people put into this lame hating. It's pathetic. Enjoy what you enjoy and let the other things be. It does not harm you.
yeah, supposbly your trying to say that death metal is what 'brutal' came from. And I agree with you but WTF.MOST death metal lyrics are about rotting corpses in hell.
its all metal who cares about sub generes its all related music so shut up and dont hate on peoples styles either that just makes you look weak and pathetic
I like deathcore but not nearly as much as death metal how about we stop basing on other bands? Let's leave the gay as scene kids alone and enjoy real metal
You made some good points in this video, but I can't imagine bashing all the bands you dislike actually changed anybody's mind about their musical preferences. I personally listen to music for it's substance, not the brutality. But I can definitely agree with you that suicide silence fucking sucks.
and another thing, your saying those bands are imposters of metal. they dont claim to be metal. and if they did. it wouldnt be false. deathcore is SUB-genre of metal. metal is a wide variety of music. so get your shit straight before you try acting high and mighty about your not so vast musical knowledge.
@DannyDinoFace You show me a video where any one of those bands openly says they're not a metal band. And by the way, Metalcore started as a sub-genre of HARDCORE, not metal, and Deathcore is no different.
@DannyDinoFace false, i hate to break it to you, but there is a lot of evidence to support that neither metalcore nor deathcore are part of the metal movement/culture, different rerasons like background, roots, and musical characteristics, about everything is different in deathcore and metalcore from every metal subgenre, all the metal subgenres have countless things in common, but im afraid to tell you deathcore has none so it cant be considered metal
well, if your looking through the statement that deathcore bands dont use any melodic riffs, and are just repetitive riifs and breakdowns, you obviousely havent done youre research. there are pleanty of bands who do. such as born of osiris. they are probably one of the most melodic bands out right now. AND they use breakdowns. so dont go preaching about what is and isnt youre deffinition of metal when obviousely youre only knowledge comes from one genre of music.
Traditional metalcore (hardcore punk with death/thrash influences) has nothing to do with melodic death metal. The bands that mix metalcore with melodeath (and/or the shit that passes as post-hardcore nowadays) should be called melodic metalcore. Deathcore is when modern/melodic metalcore mixes with death metal.
I liked the point about the real death metal bands being stuck with some of these deathcore pussy bands on tour. Imagine one of those poser skinny jeans wearing deathcore band twinks trying to have a chat with say Chris Barnes of Six feet Under.
@neuropulsation ummm,, ummm maybe, I kinda agree, them, maybe JFAC, and some select others are "leaning" more death metal, probably because the death metal band on tour have ragged them to no end about being music for scene pussies. I don't know, growing up.. perhaps. When the breakdowns and squeals stop, I'll be more convinced.
deathcore sucks because they think it takes talent to play breakdowns and to squeal. also the main reason is because they put fashion over music. deathcore is just like glam-metal, posers listen to it, and it will eventually die out and be laughed at later.
Deathcore is kinda cool the first time you hear it, from one band. I didn't really take it too seriously, but the idea was solid, I guess. "Party metal" that kids could mosh to.
But then you heard the same riff, again, and again, and fucking again. The same breakdown. The exact same, methodical song structure. And no variation within the genre whatsoever. You'd expect a genre to change and gain some sort of difference over the course of 6 or so years, but it's all stayed exactly the same
i like both death metal and deathcore; as well as, hardcore, slam death metal, and brutal deathcore...plus many others. its all just different interpretations of metal dude. ignorance is widespread. creativity i will agree with you, is scarce. but, it is lack of skill, just someone elses idea of metal.
@DoubleEdgedSword12 slam death metal is music influenced by deathcore. Brutal deathcore is music influence by death metal. o_O wtf... hahaha but seriously, Metal is growing! you dare to intervene mortal? you dare to question its beauty? well then, good day to you sir!
@DavidJWalton haha theres alot more out there in the metal world then just hardcore influenced genres, even though theres good shit with the dreaded core suffix thats not so obnoxious on breakdowns and pig squeels like Burst and Converge.
@DavidJWalton Metal has been growing, and will always be growing. However, the only thing that you can relate deathcore or core genres to and the growth of metal is a tumor. Deathcore is a blemish and a tumor upon the great visage that is metal.
you and every idiot that posts an anti- "deathcore" video is a fucking retard. you alllll use the same examples for both sides of music and say the same exact shit. get some new material before you try and make an argument dumbass. i am a fan of both deathcore and death metal and i also think scene kids are lame, but you my friend have no appreciation for music at all, which makes you a closed minded asshole.
damn dude... you're very opinionated. but i agree with some points. pretty much everything you said about scene kids is true so i'm good with that. however, hating on any music kinda pisses me off. i mean c'mon just because i like Bring Me The Horizon i dont know what music is? every one likes different shit. For instance here's some extremely varying bands i listen to:
@Shinra3lite all of this music sounds the same... the only difference is that some people you don't like listen to a few of the bands, so you call the music inferior. IT ALL SOUNDS THE SAME. Your opinion that certain bands are better doesn't make it true.
BMTH aren't metal at all, they don't even deserve to be called deathcore. fuck love songs.... i know carnifex even has some on Hell Chose Me, but at least they make up for it with other great songs and at least they aren't gay about it. and emo.
"so kiss my wrists and my neck and put me into eternal sleep"?
damn. how fucking emo is THAT? next time, don't even consider BMTH as metal.
why did you care so much about this "problem" to make a video about it? all it does is make you look like an ignorant no life douche bag. and also, metal is not death metal (ex. megadeth). deathcore and death metal are two different things, so you can't really compare them.
One thing, there are no 'satanic' metal bands. Most if not all, are atheists who for shock value of just out of boredom, pretend to be satanists to piss off the church. A prime example is Deicide. But, good video.
I am a massive fan of the beauty and sophistication of melodic/symphonic death metal don't get me wrong. Yes, I do hate these new douche-core bands such as Bring me the Horizon, Asking Alexandria, etc. for just being a group of untalented and uneducated fucks making noises with guitars. However, don't be so quick to label all deathcore bad. Look at All Shall Perish: amazingly talented and Storey was mentored by guitar great Rusty Cooley. The have breakdowns, and thus are labeled deathcore
I'm not a "fan" of deathcore, because in all fairness I think Whitechapel and Carnifex sorta stand out. But I do agree with the whole deathcore featuring not a lot of talent (especially with suicide silence, because they used the same intro for two songs, the price of beauty and bludgeoned to death). Also, You should have used Job For A Cowboy's older music, because bands like them actually grow out of deathcore :o.
But I also agree that Necrophagist and Behemoth fuckin rape.
lol a little fyi, Job For A Cowboy is death metal. whitechapel is also, (for the most part) death metal, the only thing that makes them remotely deathcore is breakdowns. now, i listen to both genres, and yes, there are differences. but for being in a band, and knowing the diffuculty of making either style of music, theyre both talented. were predominately deathcore, but our lyrics arent all 'i hate my life and my gf dumped'bullshit. stop generalizing. stop fuckin complaining
@Metal7771 Quite frankly, anyone who lists Bring Me the Horizon, Attack Attack, and the Devil Wears Prada in the list of bands they like is obviously a fucking moron.
You give metal a bad name by believing any of those bands are metal.
@Shinra3lite well i like all sorts of music, im guesing your that kind of person who hates anything thats not metal for no real good reason, screw you!
@Metal7771 First off, what does that have anything to do with the argument? That has no bearing on what I just said to you.
I'm not even going to say what else I like because it's not of importance. All I said was that you have no idea what metal is because you listen to bands that scene kids call death metal. They, and you, have no idea what they're talking about.
good video. i like how all the deathcore kids in the video keep trying to argue that deathcore is better. but really, they dont anything about metal, or death metal. u people are failures as metal heads
Solos are overrated nowadays. They are boring and most just sound to me like turkeys gobbling! At least a breakdown is a chance for a different kind of talent, band harmony. I admit most breakdowns are pretty lame, but when I hear a breakdown played with polyrhythms and crazy timing I cannot help but smile!
Deathcore is for kids who actually want to enjoy what they're listening to instead of feeling like a faggot for listening to songs about trolls and witches
i was with you on the scene queers. but deathcore i must say is awsome. and im not a poser because every deathmetal song u showed i know by heart and i have on my ipod. i love deahmetal. but 2 be honest deathcore s the exact same. just breakdowns. and detahmetal has repetative riffs too. and youve obviosly took the most mainstream songs and mainstream bands. you babrely looked into the genre. ofcourse u pick suicide silence. how bout the faceless?
rofl death&grindcore or any core isnt metal,youre right its something better, and hardcore PITS are much more extreme than a bunch of people pushing each other which is not fun+ solos suck. and death metal vocals blow compared to deathcore but ill give death metal one things the actual lyrics are better
Well, you have a good argument, but you just used the mildly shity generic bands as your examples, of course you dont want to prove yourself wrong with the talented underground deathcore bands, those "metal" bands you listed are sikk, but dont let gay scene kids, or your own need to follow the trend of hating deathcore(you sceney) drive you to make retarded youtube videos to "vent".
@demsokk agreed. there are some very non generic deathcore bands that have all the things he likes in death metal. BMTH sucks dick. not even many real deathcore fans like them. and i love how his only examples were breakdowns. do people understand that a deathcore song isn't one continuous breakdown? there's lots of inbetweens. hell, some bands only have like 1 short breakdown per song.
i love exhibit A, B, C, for the deathmetal part, i have seen nile live with krisiun.
and i also like death core so... lets see.. go fuck yourself?
I like how all of these anti-metal videos use the same damn death core bands, BMTH, JFAC, AOA, SS, ya its too easy to pick on these bands, i dont like them, but im not gonna post bullshit about them.
good vid, but man you gotta respect those who listen to what music they listen to. It shouldnt matter what people music too . if you like it then listen to it thats all that matter.
WOW!!!! 5 stars man! You took the words right out of my mouth! Literally!hahahaha, Two phrases that i like in your video: "Deathcore is not metal" & "Death to false metal" I totally 100% agree with with you man,hahahahahahah.
in the first place you shouldn't compare death metal with deathcore...that's like comparing a piece of gold with a piece of shit :)) we all know that death metal was created from thrash wich was the nest thing in metal in the 80's and deathcore seems to be a combination between metalcore and death metal, so you decide the quality... altough I have to admit that I find a lot of riffs and rythms in metalcore quite awesome...
@ChrisDarkMetaL I agree, but unfortunately, at least for me, it's really hard to find anything good while listening to metalcore.
I am not saying there are no good in there but, I will NEVER be able to say any metalcore band I have ever heard is coming even closer to Behemoth or Death.
Never said talent is about playing fast. I think that talent is playing something that has meaning, not picking up an instrument one day and getting signed the next to play the music of your idols who came out 3 months ago. And have you not seen my other comments? I said All Shall Perish is about the only good deathcore band out there.
Winds of Plague? The band that dresses like rappers, who think they're black metal, when all they do is play open chords? I'm sorry sir, you'll have to give me a better example. And I don't claim to be great at knowing good music, I just wanted to make a point known. Fact of the matter is, in today's world of "metal" I've gotten sick of people placing so much emphasis on breakdowns and less emphasis on playing the music. Most of the deathcore bands that claim they are metal do nothing but
play the same open chord over and over again and then bring it back in a different pattern and people think it's brilliant because they can wildly swing their arms in a circle to it. Whitechapel's the best example. At Rockstar Mayhem, I'd seen them for the second time (neither time willingly) and with three guitarists, they stood in the same position for 5 songs playing an open C chord 9 chords out of 10. It's boring. It's lazy. And don't even try to tell me Suicide Silence has melodic solos,
@Shinra3lite born of osiris, between the bried and me, a plea for purging, etc those r all good deathcore bands. and as far as lyrics go. u want some brutal lyrics with meaning? look up any song by whitechapel from the Somatic defilement album, black and blue by bring me the horizon, the fallen by suicide silence etc. and as for vocals, alot of death metal bands squeal, and hav breakdowns especialy Suffocation, nile cryptopsy. i actualy liek deathcore vocals more than death metal.
they're the same arpeggios that they play slowly under a breakdown that people so wildly love because it's the closest thing scene kids will ever hear to sweeps.
listen to wake up by suicide silence, i think that has one of their solos in it. it doesn't matter what they dress like or even what they think they are. did you even listen to them? they have awesome solos and sweeps. hardcore dancing is the gayest thing besides anal sex with another man. slipknot claims their metal and plays open chords. but you want another example, fine listen to awaken the dreamers by all shall perish. and i agree white chapel doesn't need three guitarists but they are
still awesome. and if it was their old album then i can see why you think that but their new album is awesome. listen to awaken the dreamers and when life meant more and say all that is is open chords. i also agree over emphasis on breakdowns is annoying but they have a lot of talent too. we should actually be focusing on mainstream emo and rap and MTV though, that is truly talentless
winds of plague. oh and way to go singling out a breakdown to say they don't take talent and singling out only parts of those death metal songs to make them seem more talented . have a different part any death core song and play that instead of a breakdown. stop using suicide silence too, use a variety of bands, and not use breakdowns. BMTH sucks dick too. have you heard suicide silences new album it has melodic solos. FUCK YOU
its not the retarded cousin, were like the little brother (yes, i say little because deathcore derived from death metal) but were aiming not to be like death metal but to be different. I don't say that death core is more brutal than death metal. and scene kids don't listen to death core, its not emotional enough for them. they listen to like BTMH and faggy bands like that. i wouldn't consider suicide silence death core, and i know a lot of death metal fans who love them. lack of skill, listen to
fuck you and your simplistic analysis of deathcore, you have no fucking clue what you're talking about.you obviously haven't listen to enough deathcore to realize the amount of talent required. your completely ignorant to other genres of music, and it's scum like you that's completes the giant asshole that hovers on this earth
Ha, coming from a deathcore fan that's almost funny. You are calling Death metal fans uncultured, HA. Metalheads respect any genre that takes talent to play, and love every single ingredient needed to make the music that we know and love. Not just past metal bands like Venom, Judas Priest and Hellhammer, but composers like Stravinsky and Bach. Metalheads are one of the most cultured genres out there, and we hate it when new genres try to ruin good metal. GORE NOT CORE!
whitechapel are good and not repetitive, listen to father of lies. By the way i agree with you but this video is generic, not every deathcore band is so bad, listen some burning the masses for example (sorry for my horrible english)
and try to listen to some good and talented deathcore bands like veil of maya, born of osiris, the boy will drown( they are more death/grind), here comes the kraken, all shall perish, beneath the massacre, burning the masses...
I wonder if Shinra3lite has ever heard of the word "bias"? Honestly, this entire video is laced with prejudice and sarcasm. It proves nothing (and deathcore is metal; death metal + hardcore punk = deathcore). It's just a sub genre. If you don't like it, don't listen to it.
death metal, hardcore, skinny high school kids, plus shit = deathcore. and the worst part about it is that there's no texture, atmosphere, or theme. it's just singing about relationships and stuff that doesn't really even make sense. and it's the worst when you expect to be caught in a mosh and instead a bunch of dudes in black vans and scene cuts are doing windmills to avoid getting put to the ground... well not when i'm around, you hxc dance and i'm sending you to the floor
Yeah, that would mean it's a subgenre of hardcore, now wouldn't it? There are very few elements in deathcore aside from the vocals that are brought in from death metal. Most of the musical devices in deathcore are from hardcore.
That wouldent make it hardcore in any sence, you seem to miss how music works. Music is not a 50/50 thing, Deathcore is its own genre not belonging to Metal or Hardcore. Also, Deathcore is progressive, although they all sound the same that doesent mean there is no talent, EVERYTHING takes talent, some more then others. Do your research before you make an fail attempt as EVERY other deathcore hater has.
Everything does not take talent to play. A majority of pop music takes no talent. A majority-all of rap takes no talent. And it's not a stretch to say that a majority of deathcore takes no talent to play. A majority of these deathcore bands just pick up instruments and get signed 3 months later because it's what people want to hear. Breakdowns have been part of music for years, but when it becomes such a present element in a genre of music that the technicality goes out the window, then it's
not really a way to portray talent. 9/10 breakdowns in a 'core' genre of music is playing the first two strings open in drop d, with the occasional pinch harmonic. There are decent deathcore bands, like All Shall Perish, but that's one out of 400 bands that sounds different. Deathcore is not about the music. It's about catering to hardcore dancing. Breakdowns are for the 'fans' of deathcore, so they can swing their arms wildly like an autistic kid who just heard thunder for the first time.
It however IS talent, you seem to miss the point EVERYTHING takes talent, and Deathcore has not replaced solo's either, I have seen ALOT of deathcore songs with solo's in it especially Glass Casket - Too Scared to Live. The guitar driven part MIGHT not be as talented as say, a typical Death Metal song, but comparing Deathcore to Death Metal is stupid they are both diffrent yet similar. Next time you make a video make it unbiased, seriously those BMTH lyrics you defenitly scouted for those ones.
To be honest, anyone saying that Deathcore is not metal just doesn't understand the way that music evolves, or does understand and have zero tolerance for music they dont like.
Plain and simple, music Progresses over time, some new genre will come out of Deathcore and then everyone will hate that, just quit whining because of the existence of music.
It's ok for music to progress, but deathcore is showing a lack of progression. It's showing a loss of talent, a loss of originality, and a loss of diversity. Pretty soon, if music "progresses" with deathcore, then "deathcore" band will sound exactly the same, and synth hooks will come to replace well written solos.
deathcore is not progression its a step backwards...way back.. everything Shinra3lite said was true. deathcore blows and its ruining real metal for everyone...i saw Megadeath...Fucking MEGADETH..tour with job for a cowboy...i had to drink myself stoopid just to get throught their set..fags and their hardcoer dancing..THEY"RE RUINING EVERYTHING AND I DONT APPRECIATE IT!
Not hating on you...just expressing an opinion...i get passionate about this subject..
sorry man but this happend with any style of music as may i say this is the american way, you know the melodic death from the 90´s was transform in the metalcore shit from american bands all they "scene" guys its so commercial but anyway nice video and the lyric part it´s so true man death to false metal
Im sorry but I simply cannot agree with this video I could find every single mistake in it and point it out but I dont feel like it right now, death metal is no better then deathcore it is the taste of the listener. And your
"observations" of deathcore are wrong, it looks to me like the only band thats deathcore you've listened to is Bring me the Horizon there is this band called glass casket and I assure you, they are no walk in the park when in comes to talent.
One thing i find stupid about death core is, Thrash Metal came from combining Punk and Metal, later on Thrash evolved to Death Metal, now, Hardcore or hardcore punk was orrigonally a punk culture kind of thing, emos invaded Hardcore, then mixed it with Deathmetal and they once again put punk back into death metal, is that logical to do? I actually agree with his vid, its an invasion.
As true as that is, death metal always has Hardcore Punkk in it, no matter what if it came from something that evolved from punk, then it will have punk in it(basically thrash) and there are plenty of talented Deathcore bands out there. I was actually gonna make a video about those bands.
Basically, BMTH? I only like BMTH cause there fun to listen to, I dont listen to deathcore much, but to call it talentless and inferior to death metal is ludacris if the only Deathcore bands you know are JFAC and BMTH
I understand why you say that, i listen to plenty of un technical bands, the stooges! creators of punk! its just so fuzzy and its fun to listen to. But i cant stand those emos on stage acting hardcore. To tell you the truth, im different from 100bitchslaps about the technical thing and talent. Don't worry about me giving you a wiping if you say anything about technicality.
its real easy to search out bad lyrics for a band u dont like, and then go search out the best lyrics for u do like and compare them...it doesnt make a point
I just want to say that i agree 100% with this vid most hardcore band are just poser punk-rock bullshit who call themselves metal, making many emos think they're getting into "metal"
And for anyone who says these bands have talent, i'd like to see those bands play any song from Cannibal Corpse, Meshuggah, Nile etc.
Wow This Is The Stupidest Shit Ive Seen On Youtube.Are U Seriously Saying That A Trendy Group Created Bands Like The Acacia Strain Rose Funeral My Children My Bride Etc. Thats Pretty Sad. Cause The People In Deathcore Bands Arent At All Scene. Im Not Scene,And I Like Both Deathcore, Metalcore, And Death metal.
good thing ur examples of death metal are easy to play, and or, have no feeling in the music what so ever.... if ur gonna make death metal sound kool, u oughtta get some better stuff
well, i actually like bring me the horizon. and no, i'm not emo, nor am i scene. i don't follow any trends. that stuff is just a stereotype. actually, there are only 2 people in my school, including me, who listen to heavy music. i think this video is bullshit. just because a band has a breakdown in their song, it doesn't make them bad. honestly, it's all opinion. i think everybody who tries to classify all this genre stuff just needs to stop.
dude this could go on forever, but i have nothing better to do at this moment haha
but seriously, for every talented death metal band theres a million talentless ones, for every talented deathcore band (yeah they exist) , theres a million talentless ones too
quit with this lame death metal vs. deathcore thing, it's so tired
dude they don't JUST play breakdowns, plus the breakdowns can totally compliment the atmosphere of the music, just listen to the first whitechapel cd, most brutal album ever (lyrics and music). seriously go listen to ear to ear or vicer exciser now
A majority of a deathcore song is taken up by breakdowns. The song structure for most deathcore songs is literally intro-verse-chorus-breakdown-verse-breakdown-chorus-breakdown-broken arpeggios passed as a solo-breakdown-outro.
I used to listen to deathcore and just grew up and realized it all sounds exactly the same.
Deathcore is not produced to show talent. It's produced and catered toward people who like to "hardcore dance".
bro i know you're wrong and i've caught you in your lie because the majority of deathcore songs don't follow the "verse, chorus" structure
i don't know what bands you're thinking of (some song examples would help) but i listen to ALOT of deathcore and i know first hand that 95% of it doesn't follow that structure
just interpritation which applies to everything in life certainly not imposters more individual interpretation of the music they play or maybe you think they should all sound the same as each other and not try and put thier own style on it === maybe you would like to set out rules for what and how they should play and sound .then we can have thousands of bands all sounding identical-- also we can all pick snippets from songs to suit our arguments but that does not make for a strong case either
Well, i totally agree with this video, there are some really gay and annoying things about death core, especially in the way the bands look like, but it's not true that ALL deathcore music sucks. Just listen to the All Shall Perish's album called The price of existence, the album is actually ok, there are some pretty interesting musical ideas and the brutality is on a satisfying level. I don't defend deathcore, i just say there actually are bands worthy of listening.
VicodinAddicted 1 week ago
I can't believe the effort you people put into this lame hating. It's pathetic. Enjoy what you enjoy and let the other things be. It does not harm you.
ITTURNEDTHEDEAD 2 weeks ago
@ITTURNEDTHEDEAD It's because he has nothing better to do with his life.
Cal2318 2 weeks ago
@Cal2318 I think you may be right. People should let people do what they wanna fo. :)
ITTURNEDTHEDEAD 2 weeks ago
That's what the new generation did.That's why i don't listen to any band that came after 1990.Pantera was the last real metal band.
AtanasovPetar 4 weeks ago
yeah, supposbly your trying to say that death metal is what 'brutal' came from. And I agree with you but WTF.MOST death metal lyrics are about rotting corpses in hell.
smokyboom 1 month ago
I actually heard no bad music in this video.
KiraTheZhinigami 1 month ago
its all metal who cares about sub generes its all related music so shut up and dont hate on peoples styles either that just makes you look weak and pathetic
MrBrett706 2 months ago
I like deathcore but not nearly as much as death metal how about we stop basing on other bands? Let's leave the gay as scene kids alone and enjoy real metal
opypoopy 3 months ago
metalcore and deathcore=lame ass fucking scene kid crap with lots off breakdowns and gay sex
Belleraphon100 4 months ago
You made some good points in this video, but I can't imagine bashing all the bands you dislike actually changed anybody's mind about their musical preferences. I personally listen to music for it's substance, not the brutality. But I can definitely agree with you that suicide silence fucking sucks.
wecameasbromans22 6 months ago
and another thing, your saying those bands are imposters of metal. they dont claim to be metal. and if they did. it wouldnt be false. deathcore is SUB-genre of metal. metal is a wide variety of music. so get your shit straight before you try acting high and mighty about your not so vast musical knowledge.
DannyDinoFace 7 months ago
@DannyDinoFace You show me a video where any one of those bands openly says they're not a metal band. And by the way, Metalcore started as a sub-genre of HARDCORE, not metal, and Deathcore is no different.
Shinra3lite 7 months ago 2
@DannyDinoFace false, i hate to break it to you, but there is a lot of evidence to support that neither metalcore nor deathcore are part of the metal movement/culture, different rerasons like background, roots, and musical characteristics, about everything is different in deathcore and metalcore from every metal subgenre, all the metal subgenres have countless things in common, but im afraid to tell you deathcore has none so it cant be considered metal
MrMig3 7 months ago 2
@MrMig3 ^This.
Shinra3lite 7 months ago
well, if your looking through the statement that deathcore bands dont use any melodic riffs, and are just repetitive riifs and breakdowns, you obviousely havent done youre research. there are pleanty of bands who do. such as born of osiris. they are probably one of the most melodic bands out right now. AND they use breakdowns. so dont go preaching about what is and isnt youre deffinition of metal when obviousely youre only knowledge comes from one genre of music.
DannyDinoFace 7 months ago
Whats wrong with melodic metal?
MetalheadSeamus 7 months ago
Traditional metalcore (hardcore punk with death/thrash influences) has nothing to do with melodic death metal. The bands that mix metalcore with melodeath (and/or the shit that passes as post-hardcore nowadays) should be called melodic metalcore. Deathcore is when modern/melodic metalcore mixes with death metal.
Trad. metalcore began in the late '80s.
Melodic/modern metalcore began in the late '90s.
Deathcore began in the very early '00s.
MrRitualSuicide 7 months ago
@MrRitualSuicide I know where you're coming from. Perhaps I should have made a mention to that.
Shinra3lite 7 months ago
@Shinra3lite Would you consider "math metal" bands like Periphery Tesseract and meshuggah metal?
BloodHarvest21 7 months ago
@BloodHarvest21 Eh. Quite frankly, I know nothing of those bands at all or the Djent movement in general; I have no opinion either way.
Shinra3lite 5 months ago
I liked the point about the real death metal bands being stuck with some of these deathcore pussy bands on tour. Imagine one of those poser skinny jeans wearing deathcore band twinks trying to have a chat with say Chris Barnes of Six feet Under.
Seadevilmusic 8 months ago
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Seadevilmusic 8 months ago
can we just bring creativity back? thats what made guys like Black Sabbath come out in the 1st place
tanvo93 8 months ago
I actually like Whitechapel. They are growing up, check the last album and maybe you will hear what I am talking about (imho after all)
neuropulsation 8 months ago
@neuropulsation ummm,, ummm maybe, I kinda agree, them, maybe JFAC, and some select others are "leaning" more death metal, probably because the death metal band on tour have ragged them to no end about being music for scene pussies. I don't know, growing up.. perhaps. When the breakdowns and squeals stop, I'll be more convinced.
Seadevilmusic 8 months ago
dude you need to add a7x to this list
PlayerPro119 8 months ago
deathcore sucks because they think it takes talent to play breakdowns and to squeal. also the main reason is because they put fashion over music. deathcore is just like glam-metal, posers listen to it, and it will eventually die out and be laughed at later.
ThrashMetalAssault1 10 months ago
Subgenres are fucking gay period.
SlaytanicSteven 10 months ago
Be'lakor!
Nile!
BEHEMOTH!!!
Well done :')
I kinda liked Deathcore...till i listened to a second song...and i thought fuck...this is the same as the last...and yeahh downwards spiral.
Don't actually mind SOME metalcore though :')
DominoTF141 10 months ago
Deathcore is kinda cool the first time you hear it, from one band. I didn't really take it too seriously, but the idea was solid, I guess. "Party metal" that kids could mosh to.
But then you heard the same riff, again, and again, and fucking again. The same breakdown. The exact same, methodical song structure. And no variation within the genre whatsoever. You'd expect a genre to change and gain some sort of difference over the course of 6 or so years, but it's all stayed exactly the same
Sn2351 11 months ago
Cool story bro.
icefreakk 1 year ago
Im agree whit this should be called Shitcore hahaha
krouthz 1 year ago
=)
xfernydrummerX 1 year ago
i like both death metal and deathcore; as well as, hardcore, slam death metal, and brutal deathcore...plus many others. its all just different interpretations of metal dude. ignorance is widespread. creativity i will agree with you, is scarce. but, it is lack of skill, just someone elses idea of metal.
DavidJWalton 1 year ago
@DavidJWalton god what in the fucking world is slam death metal? brutal deathcore? isn't that same thing? god you kiddies and your silly subgenres
DoubleEdgedSword12 1 year ago
@DoubleEdgedSword12 slam death metal is music influenced by deathcore. Brutal deathcore is music influence by death metal. o_O wtf... hahaha but seriously, Metal is growing! you dare to intervene mortal? you dare to question its beauty? well then, good day to you sir!
DavidJWalton 1 year ago
@DavidJWalton haha theres alot more out there in the metal world then just hardcore influenced genres, even though theres good shit with the dreaded core suffix thats not so obnoxious on breakdowns and pig squeels like Burst and Converge.
DoubleEdgedSword12 1 year ago
@DavidJWalton Metal has been growing, and will always be growing. However, the only thing that you can relate deathcore or core genres to and the growth of metal is a tumor. Deathcore is a blemish and a tumor upon the great visage that is metal.
Shinra3lite 1 year ago
I like both Death Metal and Deathcore.and btw Scene kids are the main reason why many people today hates Deathcore so much.
chaotic291 1 year ago
you and every idiot that posts an anti- "deathcore" video is a fucking retard. you alllll use the same examples for both sides of music and say the same exact shit. get some new material before you try and make an argument dumbass. i am a fan of both deathcore and death metal and i also think scene kids are lame, but you my friend have no appreciation for music at all, which makes you a closed minded asshole.
bloodinthewater20 1 year ago
damn dude... you're very opinionated. but i agree with some points. pretty much everything you said about scene kids is true so i'm good with that. however, hating on any music kinda pisses me off. i mean c'mon just because i like Bring Me The Horizon i dont know what music is? every one likes different shit. For instance here's some extremely varying bands i listen to:
BMTH
AvA
All Time Low
ISMFOF
Asking Alexandria
Attack Attack
ETF
Blink 182
and so on
RZTroiano 1 year ago
@RZTroiano Commit suicide those bands are fucking gay.
DeathCoreRage 1 year ago
@DeathCoreRage yayyy
RZTroiano 1 year ago
@RZTroiano Problem: All those bands suck ass.
hyperblast81 8 months ago
@RZTroiano "i mean c'mon just because i like Bring Me The Horizon i dont know what music is?
Yes. Exactly. And that claim is only supported by the rest of the bands you mentioned.
Shinra3lite 8 months ago
@Shinra3lite all of this music sounds the same... the only difference is that some people you don't like listen to a few of the bands, so you call the music inferior. IT ALL SOUNDS THE SAME. Your opinion that certain bands are better doesn't make it true.
milkmilkmilk17 1 year ago
i hate all of the bands used in this video except for whitechapel. i do believe them to have some talent and a couple good songs
wesdude2448 1 year ago
Carcass, Nile, Cannibal Corpse, Kreator, Sepultura...
BMTH sucks!
FuckinGreatSamael 1 year ago
@FuckinGreatSamael Good band choice but were's death? they made the fucking genre.
DeathCoreRage 1 year ago
WhiteChapel and Suicide Silence are great...
not nearly close to Nile... but still wayyy better than BMTH.
scgcdmluvr 1 year ago
BMTH aren't metal at all, they don't even deserve to be called deathcore. fuck love songs.... i know carnifex even has some on Hell Chose Me, but at least they make up for it with other great songs and at least they aren't gay about it. and emo.
"so kiss my wrists and my neck and put me into eternal sleep"?
damn. how fucking emo is THAT? next time, don't even consider BMTH as metal.
rectifytheblack420 1 year ago
Deathcore is not metal, its Jazz!!!!!!!!!!!
ardellgough 1 year ago
@ardellgough Hey! don't insult Jazz now...
DummyNoob 1 year ago
why did you care so much about this "problem" to make a video about it? all it does is make you look like an ignorant no life douche bag. and also, metal is not death metal (ex. megadeth). deathcore and death metal are two different things, so you can't really compare them.
rossvenzland 1 year ago
One thing, there are no 'satanic' metal bands. Most if not all, are atheists who for shock value of just out of boredom, pretend to be satanists to piss off the church. A prime example is Deicide. But, good video.
BacklTrack 1 year ago
I am a massive fan of the beauty and sophistication of melodic/symphonic death metal don't get me wrong. Yes, I do hate these new douche-core bands such as Bring me the Horizon, Asking Alexandria, etc. for just being a group of untalented and uneducated fucks making noises with guitars. However, don't be so quick to label all deathcore bad. Look at All Shall Perish: amazingly talented and Storey was mentored by guitar great Rusty Cooley. The have breakdowns, and thus are labeled deathcore
icos211 1 year ago
I'm not a "fan" of deathcore, because in all fairness I think Whitechapel and Carnifex sorta stand out. But I do agree with the whole deathcore featuring not a lot of talent (especially with suicide silence, because they used the same intro for two songs, the price of beauty and bludgeoned to death). Also, You should have used Job For A Cowboy's older music, because bands like them actually grow out of deathcore :o.
But I also agree that Necrophagist and Behemoth fuckin rape.
Azria032 1 year ago
lol a little fyi, Job For A Cowboy is death metal. whitechapel is also, (for the most part) death metal, the only thing that makes them remotely deathcore is breakdowns. now, i listen to both genres, and yes, there are differences. but for being in a band, and knowing the diffuculty of making either style of music, theyre both talented. were predominately deathcore, but our lyrics arent all 'i hate my life and my gf dumped'bullshit. stop generalizing. stop fuckin complaining
ride4life007 1 year ago
My friend always listens to Deathcore and says its Death Metal and I can't argue with him because of his ego, so I just shake my head.
Natejitsu 1 year ago
all the deathmetal bands you listed are like satanists screw that!
Metal7771 1 year ago
@Metal7771 What? Are you an idiot?
Shinra3lite 1 year ago
@Metal7771 Nile are definitely not Satanic, you spak. They base their lyrics on Egyptian mythology.
Good grief, stuck-up Christfags like you give religion a bad name.
Jarrak 1 year ago 4
@Jarrak ya? well these stupid santanist bands are giving metal a bad name
Metal7771 1 year ago
@Metal7771 Says the spak who generalises every death metal band as "Satanist".
Jarrak 1 year ago
@Metal7771 Quite frankly, anyone who lists Bring Me the Horizon, Attack Attack, and the Devil Wears Prada in the list of bands they like is obviously a fucking moron.
You give metal a bad name by believing any of those bands are metal.
Shinra3lite 1 year ago
@Shinra3lite well i like all sorts of music, im guesing your that kind of person who hates anything thats not metal for no real good reason, screw you!
Metal7771 1 year ago
@Metal7771 First off, what does that have anything to do with the argument? That has no bearing on what I just said to you.
I'm not even going to say what else I like because it's not of importance. All I said was that you have no idea what metal is because you listen to bands that scene kids call death metal. They, and you, have no idea what they're talking about.
Shinra3lite 1 year ago
@Shinra3lite im just into creative music thats experimental
Metal7771 1 year ago
@Metal7771 the most Ignorant comment a youngster can give says what you know about metal.. haha :)
nekrolich 1 year ago
@nekrolich im sick of all you people who hate on music be open to music
Metal7771 1 year ago
@Jarrak And Cthulu mythology, don't forget that.
Shinra3lite 1 year ago
@Shinra3lite Ahh yes, I forgot Nile like to throw Cthulu into the mix as well sometimes. Cheers.
Jarrak 1 year ago
@Jarrak why insult people's religion.. just because your a atheist does not mean you have to diss other people's religion to justify yours...
Stryker37573 3 months ago
@Stryker37573 My Atheism has nothing to do with the ignorance the arsehole I replied to has.
Jarrak 3 months ago
@Jarrak see... i thought we could have a civilized discussion without using profanity... but you obviously had no educated answer to comment...
Stryker37573 3 months ago
great deathcore=chug.chug.chug.boring.breakdown
great death metal=utter headbangable awesomeness, skill, talent, and musicianship
MetalHead420100 1 year ago
good video. i like how all the deathcore kids in the video keep trying to argue that deathcore is better. but really, they dont anything about metal, or death metal. u people are failures as metal heads
MetalHead420100 1 year ago
Solos are overrated nowadays. They are boring and most just sound to me like turkeys gobbling! At least a breakdown is a chance for a different kind of talent, band harmony. I admit most breakdowns are pretty lame, but when I hear a breakdown played with polyrhythms and crazy timing I cannot help but smile!
NGMTAH 1 year ago
Deathcore is for kids who actually want to enjoy what they're listening to instead of feeling like a faggot for listening to songs about trolls and witches
MrTeamPixel 1 year ago
@MrTeamPixel Deathcore is for kids who like to listen about heartbreak and how much the vocalist hates his ex-girlfriend. Definitely awesome.
Nope, it's quite gay.
Shinra3lite 1 year ago
i was with you on the scene queers. but deathcore i must say is awsome. and im not a poser because every deathmetal song u showed i know by heart and i have on my ipod. i love deahmetal. but 2 be honest deathcore s the exact same. just breakdowns. and detahmetal has repetative riffs too. and youve obviosly took the most mainstream songs and mainstream bands. you babrely looked into the genre. ofcourse u pick suicide silence. how bout the faceless?
TheNextHokage5793 1 year ago
rofl death&grindcore or any core isnt metal,youre right its something better, and hardcore PITS are much more extreme than a bunch of people pushing each other which is not fun+ solos suck. and death metal vocals blow compared to deathcore but ill give death metal one things the actual lyrics are better
269rabbit 1 year ago
not all people who listen to deathcore are scene. i fucking love deathcore, and i am no where near scene.
Scobi64 1 year ago
Well, you have a good argument, but you just used the mildly shity generic bands as your examples, of course you dont want to prove yourself wrong with the talented underground deathcore bands, those "metal" bands you listed are sikk, but dont let gay scene kids, or your own need to follow the trend of hating deathcore(you sceney) drive you to make retarded youtube videos to "vent".
demsokk 1 year ago
@demsokk agreed. there are some very non generic deathcore bands that have all the things he likes in death metal. BMTH sucks dick. not even many real deathcore fans like them. and i love how his only examples were breakdowns. do people understand that a deathcore song isn't one continuous breakdown? there's lots of inbetweens. hell, some bands only have like 1 short breakdown per song.
Scobi64 1 year ago
deathcore sucks and is nothing more than a shitty hot topic excuse for death metal
metalhedtildeth 1 year ago
i have no problem with Whitechapel but this video is spot on. great job let the scene kids know whats good!
tasteofmyscythe11 1 year ago
This video = FULL OF WIN
Deathcore kids = CATASTROPHIC FAILURE!
cornholio51 1 year ago
i love exhibit A, B, C, for the deathmetal part, i have seen nile live with krisiun.
and i also like death core so... lets see.. go fuck yourself?
I like how all of these anti-metal videos use the same damn death core bands, BMTH, JFAC, AOA, SS, ya its too easy to pick on these bands, i dont like them, but im not gonna post bullshit about them.
whitietothe 1 year ago
The Red Chord, All Shall Perish and Despised Icon are the only deathcore bands that have any discernable talent.
BroadwayRonMexico 2 years ago
good vid, but man you gotta respect those who listen to what music they listen to. It shouldnt matter what people music too . if you like it then listen to it thats all that matter.
xXxiakforlifexXx 2 years ago
WOW!!!! 5 stars man! You took the words right out of my mouth! Literally!hahahaha, Two phrases that i like in your video: "Deathcore is not metal" & "Death to false metal" I totally 100% agree with with you man,hahahahahahah.
wwwjunkcom87 2 years ago
I FULLY ENDORSE THIS VIDEO
ShreddieVanWhailin 2 years ago
all shall perish isnt death core id say they have a more progressive sound.
ShreddieVanWhailin 2 years ago
All I hear from deathcore is "chugachugachugachugachugachuga". GARBAGE.
guitrplayr47pl0x60 2 years ago
in the first place you shouldn't compare death metal with deathcore...that's like comparing a piece of gold with a piece of shit :)) we all know that death metal was created from thrash wich was the nest thing in metal in the 80's and deathcore seems to be a combination between metalcore and death metal, so you decide the quality... altough I have to admit that I find a lot of riffs and rythms in metalcore quite awesome...
ChrisDarkMetaL 2 years ago 9
@ChrisDarkMetaL I agree, but unfortunately, at least for me, it's really hard to find anything good while listening to metalcore.
I am not saying there are no good in there but, I will NEVER be able to say any metalcore band I have ever heard is coming even closer to Behemoth or Death.
DummyNoob 1 year ago
oh and talent isn't just about playing fast
STFisDTF 2 years ago
Never said talent is about playing fast. I think that talent is playing something that has meaning, not picking up an instrument one day and getting signed the next to play the music of your idols who came out 3 months ago. And have you not seen my other comments? I said All Shall Perish is about the only good deathcore band out there.
Shinra3lite 2 years ago
alright listen to heaven shall burn. and i completely agree with you for the talent thing, but i don't think death core falls under that definition
STFisDTF 2 years ago
oh and if you are so great at knowing good music and what talent is, what band are you in?
STFisDTF 2 years ago
Winds of Plague? The band that dresses like rappers, who think they're black metal, when all they do is play open chords? I'm sorry sir, you'll have to give me a better example. And I don't claim to be great at knowing good music, I just wanted to make a point known. Fact of the matter is, in today's world of "metal" I've gotten sick of people placing so much emphasis on breakdowns and less emphasis on playing the music. Most of the deathcore bands that claim they are metal do nothing but
Shinra3lite 2 years ago
play the same open chord over and over again and then bring it back in a different pattern and people think it's brilliant because they can wildly swing their arms in a circle to it. Whitechapel's the best example. At Rockstar Mayhem, I'd seen them for the second time (neither time willingly) and with three guitarists, they stood in the same position for 5 songs playing an open C chord 9 chords out of 10. It's boring. It's lazy. And don't even try to tell me Suicide Silence has melodic solos,
Shinra3lite 2 years ago
@Shinra3lite suicide silence has melodic solos
DrMario3866 1 year ago
@DrMario3866 Give me one... and perhaps I'll change my opinion. ...Too bad there aren't any.
Shinra3lite 1 year ago
@Shinra3lite Genocide, that song itself is also not repetitive at all, each riff they use only once, except the saw 6 remix of it
DrMario3866 1 year ago
@Shinra3lite born of osiris, between the bried and me, a plea for purging, etc those r all good deathcore bands. and as far as lyrics go. u want some brutal lyrics with meaning? look up any song by whitechapel from the Somatic defilement album, black and blue by bring me the horizon, the fallen by suicide silence etc. and as for vocals, alot of death metal bands squeal, and hav breakdowns especialy Suffocation, nile cryptopsy. i actualy liek deathcore vocals more than death metal.
TheNextHokage5793 1 year ago
@TheNextHokage5793 Between The Buried and me are definitely not deathcore. They are Progressive a completely different sub genre
MrTeamPixel 1 year ago
@MrTeamPixel RITE. they are COMPLETELY different...when they have breakdowns and 2-steps..
TheNextHokage5793 1 year ago
they're the same arpeggios that they play slowly under a breakdown that people so wildly love because it's the closest thing scene kids will ever hear to sweeps.
Shinra3lite 2 years ago
listen to wake up by suicide silence, i think that has one of their solos in it. it doesn't matter what they dress like or even what they think they are. did you even listen to them? they have awesome solos and sweeps. hardcore dancing is the gayest thing besides anal sex with another man. slipknot claims their metal and plays open chords. but you want another example, fine listen to awaken the dreamers by all shall perish. and i agree white chapel doesn't need three guitarists but they are
STFisDTF 2 years ago
still awesome. and if it was their old album then i can see why you think that but their new album is awesome. listen to awaken the dreamers and when life meant more and say all that is is open chords. i also agree over emphasis on breakdowns is annoying but they have a lot of talent too. we should actually be focusing on mainstream emo and rap and MTV though, that is truly talentless
STFisDTF 2 years ago
winds of plague. oh and way to go singling out a breakdown to say they don't take talent and singling out only parts of those death metal songs to make them seem more talented . have a different part any death core song and play that instead of a breakdown. stop using suicide silence too, use a variety of bands, and not use breakdowns. BMTH sucks dick too. have you heard suicide silences new album it has melodic solos. FUCK YOU
STFisDTF 2 years ago
its not the retarded cousin, were like the little brother (yes, i say little because deathcore derived from death metal) but were aiming not to be like death metal but to be different. I don't say that death core is more brutal than death metal. and scene kids don't listen to death core, its not emotional enough for them. they listen to like BTMH and faggy bands like that. i wouldn't consider suicide silence death core, and i know a lot of death metal fans who love them. lack of skill, listen to
STFisDTF 2 years ago
fuck you and your simplistic analysis of deathcore, you have no fucking clue what you're talking about.you obviously haven't listen to enough deathcore to realize the amount of talent required. your completely ignorant to other genres of music, and it's scum like you that's completes the giant asshole that hovers on this earth
AintheUK 2 years ago
Not true, whatsoever. I used to listen to all of these bands and that's why I felt the need to make the video.
Shinra3lite 2 years ago
Ha, coming from a deathcore fan that's almost funny. You are calling Death metal fans uncultured, HA. Metalheads respect any genre that takes talent to play, and love every single ingredient needed to make the music that we know and love. Not just past metal bands like Venom, Judas Priest and Hellhammer, but composers like Stravinsky and Bach. Metalheads are one of the most cultured genres out there, and we hate it when new genres try to ruin good metal. GORE NOT CORE!
Havoc1025 2 years ago
whitechapel are good and not repetitive, listen to father of lies. By the way i agree with you but this video is generic, not every deathcore band is so bad, listen some burning the masses for example (sorry for my horrible english)
rubyslaughter 2 years ago
Generic video is generic.
GlamMetalhead 2 years ago
i fucking love this video lol if a bunch of farcore kids don't understand this they are more ignorant then i suspect.
retardsrwe 2 years ago 12
and try to listen to some good and talented deathcore bands like veil of maya, born of osiris, the boy will drown( they are more death/grind), here comes the kraken, all shall perish, beneath the massacre, burning the masses...
rubyslaughter 2 years ago
All Shall Perish is the only band that stands out, let alone has talent.
Shinra3lite 2 years ago
die to scenekids. But whitechapel is good.
rubyslaughter 2 years ago
Everyone who agrees with this video drop a line on my channel and send an invite if u feel like it
DEATH TO FALSE METAl!
FinnMetal4Life 2 years ago
I wonder if Shinra3lite has ever heard of the word "bias"? Honestly, this entire video is laced with prejudice and sarcasm. It proves nothing (and deathcore is metal; death metal + hardcore punk = deathcore). It's just a sub genre. If you don't like it, don't listen to it.
XeViLmOnKeYx 2 years ago
death metal, hardcore, skinny high school kids, plus shit = deathcore. and the worst part about it is that there's no texture, atmosphere, or theme. it's just singing about relationships and stuff that doesn't really even make sense. and it's the worst when you expect to be caught in a mosh and instead a bunch of dudes in black vans and scene cuts are doing windmills to avoid getting put to the ground... well not when i'm around, you hxc dance and i'm sending you to the floor
abominabletreachery 2 years ago
Yeah, that would mean it's a subgenre of hardcore, now wouldn't it? There are very few elements in deathcore aside from the vocals that are brought in from death metal. Most of the musical devices in deathcore are from hardcore.
Shinra3lite 2 years ago
That wouldent make it hardcore in any sence, you seem to miss how music works. Music is not a 50/50 thing, Deathcore is its own genre not belonging to Metal or Hardcore. Also, Deathcore is progressive, although they all sound the same that doesent mean there is no talent, EVERYTHING takes talent, some more then others. Do your research before you make an fail attempt as EVERY other deathcore hater has.
GlamMetalhead 2 years ago
anyways i'll present a better well formed argument when you reply as I want to see if your worth dealing with.
GlamMetalhead 2 years ago
Everything does not take talent to play. A majority of pop music takes no talent. A majority-all of rap takes no talent. And it's not a stretch to say that a majority of deathcore takes no talent to play. A majority of these deathcore bands just pick up instruments and get signed 3 months later because it's what people want to hear. Breakdowns have been part of music for years, but when it becomes such a present element in a genre of music that the technicality goes out the window, then it's
Shinra3lite 2 years ago
not really a way to portray talent. 9/10 breakdowns in a 'core' genre of music is playing the first two strings open in drop d, with the occasional pinch harmonic. There are decent deathcore bands, like All Shall Perish, but that's one out of 400 bands that sounds different. Deathcore is not about the music. It's about catering to hardcore dancing. Breakdowns are for the 'fans' of deathcore, so they can swing their arms wildly like an autistic kid who just heard thunder for the first time.
Shinra3lite 2 years ago
It however IS talent, you seem to miss the point EVERYTHING takes talent, and Deathcore has not replaced solo's either, I have seen ALOT of deathcore songs with solo's in it especially Glass Casket - Too Scared to Live. The guitar driven part MIGHT not be as talented as say, a typical Death Metal song, but comparing Deathcore to Death Metal is stupid they are both diffrent yet similar. Next time you make a video make it unbiased, seriously those BMTH lyrics you defenitly scouted for those ones.
GlamMetalhead 2 years ago
dethcore kids normally grow out of it.they always do.they bands do to.its mainly boy bands to get ugly scene chicks anyway
christslayer666 2 years ago
dethcore is definetly not metal no metal influence at all.doesnt sound like metal or anything close to metal.well maybe glam metal.
dethcore=glam metal
christslayer666 2 years ago
i dislike deathcore but i wouldnt say its not metal
SKELETOR2112 2 years ago
well explained shinra3lite
JohnForce117 2 years ago
To be honest, anyone saying that Deathcore is not metal just doesn't understand the way that music evolves, or does understand and have zero tolerance for music they dont like.
Plain and simple, music Progresses over time, some new genre will come out of Deathcore and then everyone will hate that, just quit whining because of the existence of music.
ixoobi 2 years ago
It's ok for music to progress, but deathcore is showing a lack of progression. It's showing a loss of talent, a loss of originality, and a loss of diversity. Pretty soon, if music "progresses" with deathcore, then "deathcore" band will sound exactly the same, and synth hooks will come to replace well written solos.
Bassbait 2 years ago
deathcore is not progression its a step backwards...way back.. everything Shinra3lite said was true. deathcore blows and its ruining real metal for everyone...i saw Megadeath...Fucking MEGADETH..tour with job for a cowboy...i had to drink myself stoopid just to get throught their set..fags and their hardcoer dancing..THEY"RE RUINING EVERYTHING AND I DONT APPRECIATE IT!
Not hating on you...just expressing an opinion...i get passionate about this subject..
FinnMetal4Life 2 years ago
sorry man but this happend with any style of music as may i say this is the american way, you know the melodic death from the 90´s was transform in the metalcore shit from american bands all they "scene" guys its so commercial but anyway nice video and the lyric part it´s so true man death to false metal
wearepolen 2 years ago
Im sorry but I simply cannot agree with this video I could find every single mistake in it and point it out but I dont feel like it right now, death metal is no better then deathcore it is the taste of the listener. And your
"observations" of deathcore are wrong, it looks to me like the only band thats deathcore you've listened to is Bring me the Horizon there is this band called glass casket and I assure you, they are no walk in the park when in comes to talent.
GlamMetalhead 2 years ago
One thing i find stupid about death core is, Thrash Metal came from combining Punk and Metal, later on Thrash evolved to Death Metal, now, Hardcore or hardcore punk was orrigonally a punk culture kind of thing, emos invaded Hardcore, then mixed it with Deathmetal and they once again put punk back into death metal, is that logical to do? I actually agree with his vid, its an invasion.
TheOuterSpaceBassMan 2 years ago
As true as that is, death metal always has Hardcore Punkk in it, no matter what if it came from something that evolved from punk, then it will have punk in it(basically thrash) and there are plenty of talented Deathcore bands out there. I was actually gonna make a video about those bands.
GlamMetalhead 2 years ago
I do agree with you that there are good deathcore bands, its just the bands with emos trying to be hardcore that piss a lot of people off.
TheOuterSpaceBassMan 2 years ago
Basically, BMTH? I only like BMTH cause there fun to listen to, I dont listen to deathcore much, but to call it talentless and inferior to death metal is ludacris if the only Deathcore bands you know are JFAC and BMTH
GlamMetalhead 2 years ago
I understand why you say that, i listen to plenty of un technical bands, the stooges! creators of punk! its just so fuzzy and its fun to listen to. But i cant stand those emos on stage acting hardcore. To tell you the truth, im different from 100bitchslaps about the technical thing and talent. Don't worry about me giving you a wiping if you say anything about technicality.
TheOuterSpaceBassMan 2 years ago
ahh I getcha ;)
I could care less about technicality also
I go for music for the sound and technicality if I like the technicality I like it, and if I like the sound I listen to it. It can be either ;)
GlamMetalhead 2 years ago
its real easy to search out bad lyrics for a band u dont like, and then go search out the best lyrics for u do like and compare them...it doesnt make a point
mlinger 2 years ago
deathcore is alright to listen to once in a while
but seriously, you are right that it is just an attempt at death metal
and is basically hardcore trying to incorporate elements of death metal
but when it comes to the brutality...they still do a good job
Whitechapel and JFAC are pretty good
but i have more of a taste for black metal
NinjaDonutPhillip 2 years ago
Hahaha, Nile, Necrophagist, Behemoth... Ever heard of bands like umm... Autopsy, Nihilist??? Maybe Repugnant or Nunslaughter?
seimonem 2 years ago
Hahaha, I was going to say the same exact thing...
XxSconeManxX 2 years ago
i have no problem with deathcore in terms of the music i just hate the scene-kid fucks throwing windmill kicks and shit in the pit.
maggotballs 2 years ago
look at all those breemo kids. LOL GET IT?
ShimmySystem 2 years ago
wow there are alot of hate comments here
I just want to say that i agree 100% with this vid most hardcore band are just poser punk-rock bullshit who call themselves metal, making many emos think they're getting into "metal"
And for anyone who says these bands have talent, i'd like to see those bands play any song from Cannibal Corpse, Meshuggah, Nile etc.
freakyperks 2 years ago
try to listen after the burial
rubyslaughter 2 years ago
I've already tried to listen to them. They sound like every other generic deathcore band.
Shinra3lite 2 years ago
slaughterdlikeswine 2 years ago
Great video, man. Well done. Well said.
seershatred 2 years ago
Awesome video, my friend. Deathcore is nothing but a pussified version of death metal.
ANTIanitmetalclub 3 years ago
Thank you sir. Finally a positive response. Live above the influence of Deathcore.
Shinra3lite 3 years ago
everytime someone listens to necrophagist a scene kids head explodes. Its just science :)
Orangeblud21 2 years ago
good thing ur examples of death metal are easy to play, and or, have no feeling in the music what so ever.... if ur gonna make death metal sound kool, u oughtta get some better stuff
mlinger 2 years ago
well, i actually like bring me the horizon. and no, i'm not emo, nor am i scene. i don't follow any trends. that stuff is just a stereotype. actually, there are only 2 people in my school, including me, who listen to heavy music. i think this video is bullshit. just because a band has a breakdown in their song, it doesn't make them bad. honestly, it's all opinion. i think everybody who tries to classify all this genre stuff just needs to stop.
tgoiner3 3 years ago
gay
twohalfmen 3 years ago
FUCK THESE BANDS NU METAL RULES
EvilBukkakeMan 3 years ago
this video is lame
uppercut613 3 years ago
Eh... I just prefer talent with my music.
Shinra3lite 3 years ago
dude this could go on forever, but i have nothing better to do at this moment haha
but seriously, for every talented death metal band theres a million talentless ones, for every talented deathcore band (yeah they exist) , theres a million talentless ones too
quit with this lame death metal vs. deathcore thing, it's so tired
uppercut613 3 years ago
Talented deathcore is an oxymoron. People playing breakdowns is like learning how to unplay the guitar.
Shinra3lite 3 years ago
dude they don't JUST play breakdowns, plus the breakdowns can totally compliment the atmosphere of the music, just listen to the first whitechapel cd, most brutal album ever (lyrics and music). seriously go listen to ear to ear or vicer exciser now
uppercut613 3 years ago
A majority of a deathcore song is taken up by breakdowns. The song structure for most deathcore songs is literally intro-verse-chorus-breakdown-verse-breakdown-chorus-breakdown-broken arpeggios passed as a solo-breakdown-outro.
I used to listen to deathcore and just grew up and realized it all sounds exactly the same.
Deathcore is not produced to show talent. It's produced and catered toward people who like to "hardcore dance".
Shinra3lite 3 years ago
bro i know you're wrong and i've caught you in your lie because the majority of deathcore songs don't follow the "verse, chorus" structure
i don't know what bands you're thinking of (some song examples would help) but i listen to ALOT of deathcore and i know first hand that 95% of it doesn't follow that structure
uppercut613 3 years ago
Thats not the point. Its not the exact structure. But the point is, breakdowns are injected to random parts of the songs that don't make sense.
All or most deathcore bands sound the same because they all tune down and play in the same keys using the same watered down riffs.
A majority of the bands are manufactured... picked up on the street to make a record label money, just like the 50's.
Nothing will ever beat hard-earned skill.
Shinra3lite 3 years ago
just interpritation which applies to everything in life certainly not imposters more individual interpretation of the music they play or maybe you think they should all sound the same as each other and not try and put thier own style on it === maybe you would like to set out rules for what and how they should play and sound .then we can have thousands of bands all sounding identical-- also we can all pick snippets from songs to suit our arguments but that does not make for a strong case either
LifesAnElevator 3 years ago