I think a big opportunity is lost, by not pushing on to produce a car designed and made in Kenya!
Self-employment should be the first priority!
Building a car for and by Kenyans would bring the country so much more! I REALLY hope that someone feels the need and courage to move on with the project!
This was such a pioneering idea that should not be allowed to die. For how long are we going to be net importers? For how long are Africans going to be 100% reliant on the West and Asia for its technology?
This project was a resounding success, not a failure. It shows just how irrelevant most African education is to the needs of what Africa needs and should aspire.
Thank you Moi for dreaming right. This will not be in vein because you have shone a light and we have taken the hint across Africa.
Kenyans could have easily kept the program running. Its not funds that killed the program but too much dependance on foreign brands. If we spend 1/4 less on foreign brands yearly then we could easily have a vehicle that we can call our own.
This screams corruption, from the start. How could an engineer manufacture this kink of junk? I can produce a real functioning car as any engineer at this day an age should be able to, the only drawdown is the market, no one produces something that will not be bought;
look at the history of aviation??/the wright brothers neva gave up.infact their first flight was a failure,but they kept on and look at the modern planes...
@wesmonite at first, the first aviation models were pedaled like you would a bicycle while the wings were flapping to emulate a bird's movement in the air. Do you know how damn that sounded, even now it still not practical but look at what came out in the end...they invented a different form of flying that is still used to this day thanks to the write brothers! It will remain a pipe dream only if we stay there and do nothing about it.
By Kenyan standards, this is good. But people often don't always set off on a flying start, and perhaps it's even better to learn from mistakes. I would encourage a revival of this programme, and for it to begin with where it was left. The car itself looks cute, ableit weighing like a tonne of bricks, and nearly resembling those of the former soviet union.
With that machinery, Mo1 only needed have hired Ngara-River road-grogan mechanics and (Kala) Singh-a panel beaters to turn this into a success ,and not the theorists he used.
The idea was good, Hyundai 1st car the PONY looked just like the pioneers, but they kept on improving to what they are now check search youtube video ( /watch?v=NaF8-nqsFuA). So what does that say about Kenyans? What is it that the Koreans got that we just do not get....
Same project was started in Malaysia and it currently has more than three car makers. All it takes is a visionary leader and competent scientists to back his vision. Clearly Moi lacked on the latter.
My position on this issue is that Moi was mislead by UoN profs,KR Engineers and bureaucrats who so no further than the money they'd make on the project as they were staggeringly ignorant on auto production.Add this to the fact that no one would tell Moi the truth and there it is,a dead white elephant.I remember having a heated argument with one of those involved on the fallacy of building a car from scratch(even toyota can't do it)and left wondering how so many profs could be that dunce
The project was so good and could give many Kenyans jobs. The problem was that in Nyayo system, there were so much big cats who would rather import cars duty free to sell expensively than produce cars. That is how Singapore, Korea came up to chase away poverty. Up to now, the big cats have no economic plan to salvage the country. Instead, they are grouping for election which are 3 yrs to come. The finance minister who claims to have done economics does not have any paper on his name!!! Shameful.
All industrialisd countries started projects just like Nyayo pioneer but improved their product with time. With a Kenyan car govt can raise money, increase tax on import cars, start and develop related industries and training institutions. For those critics who think these sort of projects a full of shit or will go down the drain or not suitable for Kenya. They shd consider or learn from Singapore or S.Korea. Those pipe dreams become reality by bring 2gether govt and private investors
danyi90...industrialised countries don't start projects like this.they simply make the government work for the people and people solve their own problems. all these car companies were started by individuals GM,Ford,Toyota,Honda,Nissan, Chrysler,Saab,Mitsubishi,Mercedes,Ferrari,Rollsroyce,Bentley,BMW,VW.
Bring in my bro XYbit and hire him for a year and steal all his knowledge and know hows.You have to copy and steal from others just like the chines and indians do.Its illegal but you will be progress and sooner than later you can built your own!
yea, that was a good idea.Moi did his part in giving it a chance to kenyans make use of their skills, but it seemed we lacked good technicians.This was the result of poor brains. Time is ripe to put the first car on the road, like what US did in putting the first man on the moon.let's do it!
OK those that think this wz a great idea tell us what the NYAYO PHILOSOPHY was all about? There wz even a book...and every illiterate KANU sycophant bought several copies! That's not genius...that's something psychiatrists could assist in!
wow typical white elephant story... spend money on an ambitious project, launch the first phase with lots of fanfare, let it collapse due to lack of proper planning
the answer is simple invest in mechanical engineering even i with ma first and second year basics can construct a better car than that. i do not see that car moving anywhere too fast no aerodynamic drag with a design like that. the bulkiness of the car too much heavy metals used. alot need to go in design and material testing of the concept car period before any car is made
in the meantime as money that would have built more hospitals, schools and roads was being wasted and Kenyans being blinded with an example of a car, Moi and his cronies were busy sharing out the Mau forest among themselves.
I doubt if there was even research..the dude being interviewed says when called,he said he could do the work in four hours!!!What the hell, make a car without prior experience in four hours.okey not really a car but some component.Still, FOUR HOURS!!!
Guys,would we be writing such negative comments should the project by any chance had come out successful? Tell me, what government embankment has presently tried to industrialize Kenya by making our country self sufficient in manufacturing of any engineering components?This was a brilliant , we got to admit.
i dont understand what u mean,there were better things to do like hospitals or provide water in north eastern province and many more this is the same year corruption was at it peak,same year ouko was killed by moi cronies this was total waste of tax payers money roads were full of pot holes i can go on...........you seem very young you didnt know much at that time or u are too naive
@eoduor2003 you must always keep in mind that an overwhelming majority of Kenyans are simply too daft to even know what the term industrialisation is as they are mostly concerened with their 2 by 2 "prots of rand" somewhere in the Rift Valley or where ever
@eoduor you have to understand one thing. Governments (Kenya included) are horrible at running/ starting businesses. look at Kenya power, Telkom (before it was sold to investors), Kenya Airways was a failure before it was bought by KLM, Kenya Railways, Nyayo Bus, Kenya meat commission, KTDA, Goldenberg...and you can finish this list. this is why this project was a failure and even if it took off, it would have failed!!!
You gotta be out of your freaking mind. 700m out of the drain and thats what you call a genius? Not even to mention that you've got the audacity to compare this lunatic with MLK.
oh, really??? mmm...... why then did he run things down? Why was corruption a way of life in his government? Why was he full of nepotism? He could never have been like MLK. NEVER.
@eden They say anybody can think whatever they want....as long as they keep their mad ideas to themselves! Why should it cost yu and me to try out nutty ideas? These technicians were copycats..and daft copycats at that!
I think a big opportunity is lost, by not pushing on to produce a car designed and made in Kenya!
Self-employment should be the first priority!
Building a car for and by Kenyans would bring the country so much more! I REALLY hope that someone feels the need and courage to move on with the project!
FrankypankyV8 2 months ago
This was such a pioneering idea that should not be allowed to die. For how long are we going to be net importers? For how long are Africans going to be 100% reliant on the West and Asia for its technology?
This project was a resounding success, not a failure. It shows just how irrelevant most African education is to the needs of what Africa needs and should aspire.
Thank you Moi for dreaming right. This will not be in vein because you have shone a light and we have taken the hint across Africa.
mfcmtube 2 months ago
what heaps of crap!
Arty288 4 months ago
Kenyans could have easily kept the program running. Its not funds that killed the program but too much dependance on foreign brands. If we spend 1/4 less on foreign brands yearly then we could easily have a vehicle that we can call our own.
estoneakaelow 5 months ago
This screams corruption, from the start. How could an engineer manufacture this kink of junk? I can produce a real functioning car as any engineer at this day an age should be able to, the only drawdown is the market, no one produces something that will not be bought;
somalipal 5 months ago
look at the history of aviation??/the wright brothers neva gave up.infact their first flight was a failure,but they kept on and look at the modern planes...
wesmonite 11 months ago
@wesmonite at first, the first aviation models were pedaled like you would a bicycle while the wings were flapping to emulate a bird's movement in the air. Do you know how damn that sounded, even now it still not practical but look at what came out in the end...they invented a different form of flying that is still used to this day thanks to the write brothers! It will remain a pipe dream only if we stay there and do nothing about it.
kelvincuts 3 months ago
the car was very heavy the engine could'nt pull it haaaaahaaaa dumb ass
checkthisout704 1 year ago
By Kenyan standards, this is good. But people often don't always set off on a flying start, and perhaps it's even better to learn from mistakes. I would encourage a revival of this programme, and for it to begin with where it was left. The car itself looks cute, ableit weighing like a tonne of bricks, and nearly resembling those of the former soviet union.
MzeeMoja1 2 years ago
nice story but then we should not be deterred- lets move on and make that car!
machax002 2 years ago
total böse heute :) wer hat lust zu chattn oder cam
SexiiiBabii91 2 years ago
With that machinery, Mo1 only needed have hired Ngara-River road-grogan mechanics and (Kala) Singh-a panel beaters to turn this into a success ,and not the theorists he used.
wachaushenzi 2 years ago
The idea was good, Hyundai 1st car the PONY looked just like the pioneers, but they kept on improving to what they are now check search youtube video ( /watch?v=NaF8-nqsFuA). So what does that say about Kenyans? What is it that the Koreans got that we just do not get....
totobaya 2 years ago
Same project was started in Malaysia and it currently has more than three car makers. All it takes is a visionary leader and competent scientists to back his vision. Clearly Moi lacked on the latter.
nedatronics 2 years ago
My position on this issue is that Moi was mislead by UoN profs,KR Engineers and bureaucrats who so no further than the money they'd make on the project as they were staggeringly ignorant on auto production.Add this to the fact that no one would tell Moi the truth and there it is,a dead white elephant.I remember having a heated argument with one of those involved on the fallacy of building a car from scratch(even toyota can't do it)and left wondering how so many profs could be that dunce
shondeshonde 2 years ago
L-O-L!
surambaya 2 years ago
The project was so good and could give many Kenyans jobs. The problem was that in Nyayo system, there were so much big cats who would rather import cars duty free to sell expensively than produce cars. That is how Singapore, Korea came up to chase away poverty. Up to now, the big cats have no economic plan to salvage the country. Instead, they are grouping for election which are 3 yrs to come. The finance minister who claims to have done economics does not have any paper on his name!!! Shameful.
njerirose24 2 years ago 5
All industrialisd countries started projects just like Nyayo pioneer but improved their product with time. With a Kenyan car govt can raise money, increase tax on import cars, start and develop related industries and training institutions. For those critics who think these sort of projects a full of shit or will go down the drain or not suitable for Kenya. They shd consider or learn from Singapore or S.Korea. Those pipe dreams become reality by bring 2gether govt and private investors
danyl90 2 years ago
danyi90...industrialised countries don't start projects like this.they simply make the government work for the people and people solve their own problems. all these car companies were started by individuals GM,Ford,Toyota,Honda,Nissan, Chrysler,Saab,Mitsubishi,Mercedes,Ferrari,Rollsroyce,Bentley,BMW,VW.
goo1358 2 years ago
Bring in my bro XYbit and hire him for a year and steal all his knowledge and know hows.You have to copy and steal from others just like the chines and indians do.Its illegal but you will be progress and sooner than later you can built your own!
kushotto 2 years ago
yea, that was a good idea.Moi did his part in giving it a chance to kenyans make use of their skills, but it seemed we lacked good technicians.This was the result of poor brains. Time is ripe to put the first car on the road, like what US did in putting the first man on the moon.let's do it!
xyzeedf 2 years ago
Sorry, but the Americans never made it to the moon!!! Lots of evidence to back this.lol..But I agree it's time to put our own machines on the roads.
eoduor2003 2 years ago
OK those that think this wz a great idea tell us what the NYAYO PHILOSOPHY was all about? There wz even a book...and every illiterate KANU sycophant bought several copies! That's not genius...that's something psychiatrists could assist in!
siasabora 2 years ago
wow typical white elephant story... spend money on an ambitious project, launch the first phase with lots of fanfare, let it collapse due to lack of proper planning
jugholder 2 years ago
the answer is simple invest in mechanical engineering even i with ma first and second year basics can construct a better car than that. i do not see that car moving anywhere too fast no aerodynamic drag with a design like that. the bulkiness of the car too much heavy metals used. alot need to go in design and material testing of the concept car period before any car is made
lesbmistique 2 years ago
in the meantime as money that would have built more hospitals, schools and roads was being wasted and Kenyans being blinded with an example of a car, Moi and his cronies were busy sharing out the Mau forest among themselves.
karuitha 2 years ago 2
The works of retarded scientists.
siasabora 2 years ago
lol, i want one of those cars just to remind me of how things went downhill.
karuitha 2 years ago
the scientists were really not retarded... it is the ones who FORCE them to work who are megalomaniacs
edenskid 2 years ago
I doubt if there was even research..the dude being interviewed says when called,he said he could do the work in four hours!!!What the hell, make a car without prior experience in four hours.okey not really a car but some component.Still, FOUR HOURS!!!
eoduor2003 2 years ago
Guys,would we be writing such negative comments should the project by any chance had come out successful? Tell me, what government embankment has presently tried to industrialize Kenya by making our country self sufficient in manufacturing of any engineering components?This was a brilliant , we got to admit.
eoduor2003 2 years ago 2
i dont understand what u mean,there were better things to do like hospitals or provide water in north eastern province and many more this is the same year corruption was at it peak,same year ouko was killed by moi cronies this was total waste of tax payers money roads were full of pot holes i can go on...........you seem very young you didnt know much at that time or u are too naive
wanjem 2 years ago
Brilliant? Why was science not given a chance?
edenskid 2 years ago
@eoduor2003 you must always keep in mind that an overwhelming majority of Kenyans are simply too daft to even know what the term industrialisation is as they are mostly concerened with their 2 by 2 "prots of rand" somewhere in the Rift Valley or where ever
kijijikubwa 2 years ago
@eoduor you have to understand one thing. Governments (Kenya included) are horrible at running/ starting businesses. look at Kenya power, Telkom (before it was sold to investors), Kenya Airways was a failure before it was bought by KLM, Kenya Railways, Nyayo Bus, Kenya meat commission, KTDA, Goldenberg...and you can finish this list. this is why this project was a failure and even if it took off, it would have failed!!!
goo1358 2 years ago
Those cars need to be preserved at the national museum. We should not forget where we are coming from.
benadede 2 years ago 6
@benadede that sounds like a good idea,take them to the museum for future generations.
wesmonite 1 year ago
A symbol of meglomania.
abarzilai664 2 years ago
Moi was genius ,like MLK said a dream is coming
barelesie 2 years ago
You gotta be out of your freaking mind. 700m out of the drain and thats what you call a genius? Not even to mention that you've got the audacity to compare this lunatic with MLK.
Dbird613 2 years ago
oh, really??? mmm...... why then did he run things down? Why was corruption a way of life in his government? Why was he full of nepotism? He could never have been like MLK. NEVER.
edenskid 2 years ago
@eden They say anybody can think whatever they want....as long as they keep their mad ideas to themselves! Why should it cost yu and me to try out nutty ideas? These technicians were copycats..and daft copycats at that!
siasabora 2 years ago
you are damn naive
wanjem 2 years ago
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goo1358 2 years ago