Karate - Naihanchi Kata Bunkai

[phoenixzion82]

He's using a hooking technique on a few and torquing the arm. The guy might not be able to let go because the defender is locking a limb.

[geenius3ab]

I myself am a karate pratictioner and I can say there are quite a few moves that are UNPRACTICAL.. For example: A thief takes hold of your shirt and you will push his and down and hit him.. After that i don't really think that the thief will keep holding your shirt, but some of the moves indicate that the opponent should do that.. -.-

[Toyomata]

@geenius3ab Depends on how determined the theif is to try to hold on to you, or it may be he is hit faster than he can let go. Either way, it is always important to think of why you are taught those moves. Obviously the master of the style was able to pass the knowledge on, there may be some hidden pourpose.

[kenposan]

@geenius3ab

You'd be surprised at the "dumb" things people do when things don't go the way they planned. Frequently, an attacker will just keep holding on because they don't want to "give up", even if letting go would clearly make things better. Humans are odd creatures.

[geenius3ab]

@kenposan Well I myself don't plan on making my bet on the attacker being strange or stupid.. Any decent fighter would let go and it can't be sure if the attacker has some experience in martial arts or not.

I'd rather break his balance and make him fall (From that distance, when holding it's quite easy + even if he has a hold on me he will probably just pull me with him making my hit stronger.) and then i will fall with him with my elbow into his chest which will just probably break a few ribs..

[mrtempertantrum]

Zer1, "Complete" martial arts employ MANY techniques. Some are not designed for use against trained fighters, but rather to give options to do riskier & WAY more devastating actions. Other techniques are to be used against more skilled fighters - these are safer & faster but less powerful. It's called compromises. If your teacher says your art has none, then they aren't an expert. It's biomechanics. Ex: Machida's style in the ring- it's fast and safe, but uses few risky "haymakers."

[kidokan111]

fighting is no game these techniques work if you have to addapt kata to work then so be it this is a battlefield art where rules are decided by the one left alive

[shadowman45810]

One thing I have learned from years of study in the martial arts is that things are not always what they apear to be in a kata. You'll find as you train more the techniques are what ever you want them to be. Study with Russell Stutely if you get the chance and you will be opened up to a whole new way of thought

[teddywinroth]

Now thats real bunkai !!

[brucefetter]

What may be confusing some folks here is that there is a difference bwn bunkai (direct analysis where it looks just like the kata), oyo bunkai (where you should be able to see the kata but it is not exact) and henka (where it is variations upon the mood or theme of kata). Most of this dvd looks like oyo and bunkai, but it's all good. You have to understand the layers of kata. Real fights do not match up to kata, but kata gives you angles and focus and blueprints to build off of. Distinctions!

[zerzerzerzer1]

What is confusing is that people try to adapt something that wasnt meant to be.

Easy solution.

Work out bunkia.

Get in with a fighter and see if it works.

End of proof.

Otherwise its a game of make believe.

[stormriser83]

Some of you people are sad, applications ,bunkai, are dynamic and should be, show me where in a real fight you will be doing everything perfect and identical to the kata anyhow? Its ideal positioning and proper structural alignment, but when the shit hits the fan you bet your ass you better be ready to be dynamic, if you can't find these simple applications shown here then YOU need to study and practice against a live opponent a hell of a lot more.

[varanid8]

Its good to see the original applications to this kata still being taught despite all the wrong, "sporterized" interpretations out there.

[jdtwk123]

I'm affraid I have to concur. The take downs you show at about :34 are not Naihanchi. The first is just not in the kata, the second is a judo style throw, also not in the kata. I do see how some of the later ones could be extrapolated however from the naihanchi step, although I think there are more efficient ones (and structurally safer ones) you could do that do not require you to take a foot off the ground while applying pressure to your opponent.

[232323C]

the throwing technique that you perform in your naihanchi bunkai is not from Naihanchi kata. If you disagree show me in kata where naihanchi assumes bent spine position..you are very good and fast but bent spine throws are not part of naihanchi kata. reanalyize your naihanchi kata and look deeper within it. Bent spine throws are not in Naihanchi kata whatsoever. when fighting with kata you must stay within the gamae of the kata....all throws in naihanchi are done with erect spine for areason

[FiasaPower]

I'm kobayashi Shorinryu karateka and you are right . in naihanchi nidan and beginning of sandan we bent spine . But even if we don't , this ins't signify that the bunkai couldn't do like this . Real fighting is very different from martial art form . We must learn THE ESSENCE of techinique and apply it simple as possible .

[FiasaPower]

Thanks . But it's the reality . People think that bunkai is a "robotic-mode" application entire same as the form , but it doesn't work . Real fighting has flow , real fighting has "tenchi" , real fighting hasn't "correct stances" , you simple do the NECESSARY to safe your body and health .

Which kobayashi stylist lineage are you from ? I'm student of Master Shinzato , from Brazil .

Best regards !

[FiasaPower]

Exactly . There is a huge misunderstanding of real karate should be . Karate is a complete bujutsu hidden in katas . Karate only as a "punching/blocking" system is an interpretation mistake . This mistake began outside from Okinawa .

Peace .

[JIMMYBUSHIDO]

@FiasaPower

at last , someone talking sense

[eisbombenhagel]

@FiasaPower After some research I'm not sure anymore if that mistake began outside of Okinawa. In my opinion it was the process around 1900 of turning the traditional teaching methods (kata and fighting with verbal teachings – which has its rough edges, too) into state approved mass teaching methods by Anko Itosu, Yabu Kentsu and others. On the rest I totally agree with you.

[unleashthetigah]

fricken sweet

[mojoforyeshua]

Looks like the stuff the martial arts explorer guys do..check them out on on here

[stefanoboxing]

fuck it watch

TOMMY CARRUTHERS

[kempobrad]

looks good to me. i think the principles taught by kata can be applied to groundfighting. but if they were meant for it, they'd be lying on their backs. i dont think there is such a thing as a groundfighting kata.

[roningb]

reaper....you are so wrong. karate-jutsu is standing and ground techniques. you just have no clue. you are missing the point. keep studying and maybe you will see.

[reaperblacku]

Actually ron...I am fairly sure I have been training longer than you have. Most of my 32 years. If you had read my post you would have realized that I said that it could be applied on the ground, or standing.  The basic body mechanics are the same. It isn't for fighting on your back. Or with your back to the wall. lol.

[roningb]

Well reaper, it does not matter how long you have been training. Only if you have been taught the right way. And I never said it was for your back against the wall. lol. But if you happen to be on your back in a situation, do you not see the kansetsu-waza and shime-waza in Naihanchi that can apply?

[reaperblacku]

Correction there ron. You can do it standing or on the ground, there is no difference if it is applied correctly. Naihanchi is not a ground fighting kata, it is a grappling kata. The point of karate is to avoid going to the ground.

[roningb]

Naihanchi is more than a stand up kata. You can do this kata on your back. Alot of the techniques in it are for ground fighting. These guys need to show it. What they are doing is not worth the money.

[guitarninja83]

Good stuff! I have been extracting from Naihanchi for over 10 years now, only scratching the surface!

[zankwack]

look at master morans naihanchi real pressure point street fighting!!!!