Cipriani, Armitage and now Ashton. Tell me, when was the last time Ashton put in a notable performance when his team was on the back foot? Any player can score 6 tries against second rate teams, it takes a world class player to step up against a Southern Hemisphere side and score a game winner, but has he done it? No.
@atribecalledsoul wow, congratulations, one time, world class player, absolute talisman for the game of rugby, I mean, it's not like Jason Robinson, Jeremy Guscott or Martin Johnson did anything better than that, right? Give over, the guy is so overrated.
@unspecifiedcarnage I completely agree bro, it was disgraceful seeing him come on and boss vickery and Shaw around, two world cup winners (well shaw would have been if it wasn't for injury )...he should learn his place... he is still a boy playing a man's game..he should come to SA we will show im how to toughen up...give him a session with the ENFORCER!
@hobbyglue1 I think I'd rather have a stick with a balloon on top in an international defensive line. How many games has Cipriani lost the rebels because of his frankly embarrassing defence?
@MrZogsify haha yeah my comment may have been a bit premature his tackling is attrocious, especially when the rebels played the blues and the highlanders. That being said, some of the other (mainly backs) in the side leave much to be desired in defence as well.
The thing with Cips is that i think he actually had alot of potential. he just seemed to let fame get to his head and turned into a bit of a twat. But he had the potential to be a very good fly half
A lot of hate on here, fact is he's a talented rugby player, so what if he's media hungry? Oh and bringing sexuality into it as a derogatory term is pretty old fashioned, get with the times people.
that's the only way you can get to the talented fly halfs - a late hit. nice one palu, well done on making up for being a nobody by taking out a somebody.
Cipriani is an arrogant kid who, mainly because of all the media pressure and hype (what I like to call the "Ramprakash effect"), started to believe he was the best player in/for England. It went to his head, as it did to us all, we saw him as the saviour of the English. But it has all come to nothing, he came into the team, tried to boss it around (remember the ignored instructions to Vickery on the field once?) and now he's returned to the relative obscurity of club rugby, where he belongs.
@hanros98 Not sure who we were playing, but Vickery was captain and DC came on just after half-time as a sub... started trying to tell big Phil how to do his job... All Vickery did was turn his back on DC and completely ignore him, because he was being a pretentious arse... It was brilliant, the old guard of English rugby showing that they weren't going to bow to some hyped up little brat.
In all fairness there are thousands of overpaid players on the rugby planet,hes just one of them who has had extreme pressure put on him by club and country.
i agree with bollo 619 - im english and im not an arrogant dick - you get arrogant people in all countries, please dont say things like that cos you never know who youre gonna offend, thanks :-)
i agree with most of that, although im not sure which SH full backs youre referring to, and id say being solid under the high ball is a faily key attribute for a top full back. muliaina yes, but other SH nations arent too strong at fullback currently. anyway, i didnt say armitage was a world class player- i was replying to someone who said he was fast and nothing else.
he had a shocker against wales though. i think we can all agree on that
@somerandomer Ashley-Cooper is an excellent fullback, but I'm not just talking about full backs, all three quarters. The SH players generally have better handling and passing skills. They are also still more physical than the average NH back. There are exceptions though.
It is purely down to the fact that Rugby is the NO.1 sport for the SH. Look at the Europeans with football. They are naturally better than every1 else apart from the odd anomoly. Kids play rugby from the moment they walk, same with kids and football here.
Rugby isn't the no 1 sport down here. It was in NZ for a long time, and same for white South africans, but in both countries soccer has long had higher participation numbers (in SA rugby is mostly for rich white folk) and in NZ rugby league is taking hold.
In Australia you could argue that rugby union is fourth after Australian football, rugby league and soccer.
It's not popularity that makes us better, it's a better philosophy about the game.
O yh and Football come on mate, apart from Pele and Maradona? Although Brazil does put money into it's F.A than Spain? and has proved succesful! The rich footballers of Europe The most succesful country in the world in football is Brazil and deservedly so. Atm I can see no other winner than either France, Spain, or Italy. I have serious doubts over the quality of the tournament however being held in an unusual country such as RSA
@HalfordNick Brazil has far less invested in developing young football players than France, Spain or Italy, but they still get results just as good or better. The reason is their method of development and their philosophy on the game. They play differently to European teams, particularly at the developmental stage. In terms of rugby, the development takes place more at club levelk than school level unless you go to a posh school, in the SH.
Oh, and I would argue that while certain Euro countries produce technically excellent soccer players (Spain, Italy, Germany, Holland, the UK to a lesser extent) the South american countries also produce technically excellent players (often better) with far less resources, because they have a great football philosophy of encouraging creative players.
You could use that analogy with SH rugby players. The SH has less money than Europe, but we still produce better players.
Thats very interesting to hear about Rugby League being more popular than Union however, from my time as a P.E teacher in New Zealand (Taught Rugby) I can not say there is a massive difference in the way youths are taught to play. The young All Black coaching system is the most efficient coaching system of any sport in the world! which therefore creates the superior team. I noticed no difference in the way children were taught how to play at all.
@mustainerulesxx I agree about Cipriani, but Armitage is still very much in Englands eye and if you watch him a t club level with london irish he can still break a line and play really well. Probably would've been selected in the six nationsif it wasn't for his ban.
@mustainerulesxx Disagree majorly. You obviously just didnt give him time. Look at his performance over the warm up matches for the New Zealand World Cup. Without that man we would be a lost hope
@mustainerulesxx armitage has been in good form this season and performed well in the world cup warm up matches so to speak wrongly of him as having 'no chance' is quite pathetic, agree about cipriani though he is a fag and i hope he never wears another england shirt again!
LOL scotland the pussiest country in the world beating uraguay in pussyness play rugby like men?????? they are shit at rugby they get owned by everyteam in every sport !! all they can do is speak english thats right englands language and just be known as one of the countries conected to england!!!!
@jfhghghgh75655 and you're surprised that all the celts in the world want to give you a sound going over with a barbed wire bat. you make it so easy to despise the English. You don't work at MacDonalds do you? It sounds a lot more like arrogance dripping off you than fat...
hey i'm english and love it!!! please please please don't make the mistake of thinking that all english rugby players are as gay as him!!!! he is a prancing fag that should never have worn the shirt!!!! who is the money on for the woodenspoon this year italy or scotland?? :P
@bollo619 I'd love to be able to put my money on England for the wooden spoon. But depends on the team you pick as to whether you win the whole thing beautifully or just end up getting your arses handed to you by Ireland and France. Plus being beaten by Wales and Scotland isn't unheard of when England have a bad day too. Mind you so long as you don't pick this piece if shit (getting deservedly laid out) then I reckon England will always do better
Yeh i was wondering that, didn't he have like one of those depression phases? And england4ever1000 is right, we should have more of the capable players in the team, not try to copy the Australians in creating a new brilliant young team, cus' they can do it well, but we should just not even try if i'm honest!
i disagree they should forget about the pensioners they keep bringing back to the team if they want to move forward
ok so it will mean a few years of struggling but it will improve look at the improvements australia have made in that game against us (wales by the way)
they hammered us after struggling for a long time after losing greats like gregan, larkham and latham
But i just don't like the jeering losing brings, cus' when we get beat by the Welsh, i live on the border, every Welshman around starts singing and whenever you bring the sport up they always say, 'but didn't we beat you?' and its like so fucking annoying, sorry, and i just think they need two or three more experienced players to get the rest of the team on path, yeh if you don't fully understand what i just said, don't worry, i don't understand most of it either, i was just waffling on XD
its because rugby is sort of like a religion in wales, and we are as passionate about it as al quaeda are about islam (and that is not an exaggeration)
and when you combine our love of rugby with our huge hatred for england (no offence) then obviously going to rub it in when we beat you...which is quite often :D;)
see, thats making me feel RAWR, your just so much more confident, i suppose it's the fact that, don't mean to offend you, you haven't got a reputation of being a top top team, as we have been at the top for years and are now going downhill, but trust me, now your rising up into a similar position and no doubt a higher position, and when you begin to slow down, you will find the torment infuriating
its ok i know we arent really the best team around
and no disrespect but even when england won the world cup they were (pardon my french) dogshit
once again i dont mean to be offensive but they basically had 8 fat people standing in front of a ridiculously good kicker who won the tournament for them - so boring and not the way a tournament should be one but fair dos at least you won it haha
and we know what it feels like to come down from the top our team in the 70s was the best ever and then...
I think England have fat people, you have Powell, quite a slim person compared to Englands, can run fast and hit hard, ours start walking after roughly fifty minutes, and so much for our good kicker, we had Jonny, then he pissed off some where and we get Cipriani, he then disappears and then, then we have Goode, the by-word in English Rugby for kicking, not for points, just kick it any where any time, and when it comes to points, he misses like 60% of the time
Yes definately, the English were just strategic and to me very, bland, the Welsh though, as you say, were far more imaginative and seemed in a class of there own at times. But i don't think any team can rely on mere creativness, there has to be an organised core that reacts to anything, such as the English at most times, and which the Welsh i would say have been building on the last few years
Well, at present i would bet Wales would fair much greater than England against the 'big three', and i don't know about you, but Scotland seems to have over taken both of us, defeating Australia, leading Argentina for like 60 minutes, well shocking
well no disrespect to scotland because i like them and think they are a good team under good management but i think they came up against australia on a good day from their point of view
if they would have come up against the australia wales played against they would have lost as badly as we did i think
Yeh probably, but don't ya' feel the optimism in the Scotland camp? They've improved from the previous 6 Nation's and I personally believe they may be able to win more than one match next year, though not beating Wales and Ireland but quite possibly England, and maybe on a vrey good day, France
Yeh, but if you get a few of your star players back in, the ones who really know how to bring a team together, then you may, as much as it kills me, win the grand slam again, Ireland are good, but if they lose O'Driscoll then you'll win, France are fairly easy to beat, England may not be up to scratch, Scotland could just fall short and the less said about Italy the better, i just hope it's like the last game of this years 6 nations, you lot v Ireland, i remember that game very well, so happy XD
I hate it when injuries shrowd good games, the proffessionals should play in the clubs, but get three games off to rest and ready themselves for full internationals, such as Cipriani, playing a game a week before an international friendly against France, and he pulls a fucking groin muscle putting him out for two weeks
True, though pehaps the IRB and the National Team Boards of each country can offer some compensation for the loss, a payment prehaps, or for debts to be rid of
money isnt necessarily going make up for them losing all the time though is it?
what would they do with it?
buy some more international superstars that will hardly play because they are away on international duty so often?
and i cant imagine the IRB or the national team boards will have the financial strength to just throw cash at clubs that lose out because of players out on international duty
I suppose, jus' guess we'll have to continue watching half manned teams, no different than what we have now is it, and plus at times, I have to admit it does create some exhilirating matches
Oh, do you mean Wilkinson by any chance? You can fuck off XD he's the only thing keeping our team winning, actually thinking about the England team, Care, Barnes, Strettle, Chuter, Worsely, Haskell, Moody, Armitage and Monye seem to be all missing from a lot of important matches, Wales too have a few missing great's aint' they?
God, i would say both our teams are severely undermanned, and yet, Wales, so annoyingly, still appears the better side, but one thing i don't get is, Wales has a great National team, but as far as i gather, her clubs are somewhat lacking the reputation of the national stage, cus' England has many great clubs, Bath, Wasps, Saracens (I think there Welsh come to think bout' it) but i've only heard of Cardiff Blues as a big Welsh club, i just don't get it
well once again i dont mean to offend you but those clubs are only big compared to other english clubs (saracens are an english club by the way)
the scarlets, cardiff blues and the ospreys are (in my opinion) as good if not better than those club, the ospreys really on paper should be the best team in the northern hemisphere but the names arent living up to their reputation and are not playing well enough together unfortunately
but you are right wales only has 4 regions play top class rugby
in case you arent aware of the ospreys ill give you an idea of what their team could be if everyone was fit... 1. Duncan Jones 2. Huw Bennett 3. Adam Jones 4. Ian Gough 5. Alun Wyn Jones 6. Jerry Collins 7. Marty Holah 8. Ryan Jones 9. Mike Phillips 10. James Hook 11. Shane Williams 12. Gavin Henson (if he ever gets his act together) 13. Sonny Parker/Andrew Bishop 14. Tommy Bowe 15. Lee Byrne
im english and i think cipriani is good for club but hes shit for england hes also a pussy i think toby flood played well good in the last 6 nations and hes the best fly half weve got
shut up u idiots ur all old tossers hu cant c talent when its rite infront of u, this guy is the future for the england team, we cant hope goode or tom may can carry on , cus theyre so old, and also they lack flare, start buildin a new team!!!
Cip got run over by a Japanese player who's 2 inched shorter and possibly half a stone lighter in Saxon's game. he threw an enormous number of hospital passes against RSA. Against NZ Flood was a lot more accurate (tho he needs to play a foot closer to gain line). Tait quietly put in the work and not talking himself up in the media so look where he is now.
But he madethe tackle with his arms! I like seeing fag rugby players getting hammerd... like Dan Carter but he normally breaks the tackle and scores or sets up a try!
yes its illegal because its late and above the shoulders, not because he lead with his shoulder. This is an illegal and dangerous tackle, but not because of his shoulder, because it was high & late
You obviously have never seen him play before he broke his ankle have you? Sounds like your a very jealous person, i wonder where your from, mmmmmmm let me guess...
Always enjoy watching Cipriani get smashed.
chanctonbury63 3 days ago
late and a shoulder to the face, fucking ozzie cunt
Skoptski 2 weeks ago
not gonna lie cipriani pussied out of that one
mangos118 2 weeks ago
remember when Cipriani was supposed to be the savior of English rugby?? ....well he sucks
HectorSuxxx69 1 month ago
@HectorSuxxx69 hes an over rated ass hat thats for sure, and yet people still rate him.. whats with that!?
wo0dy1 1 week ago
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@HectorSuxxx69 hes an over rated ass hat thats for sure, and yet people still rate him.. whats with that!?
wo0dy1 1 week ago
who cares.. he's english...
Hu9ogo 2 months ago
Cipriani, Armitage and now Ashton. Tell me, when was the last time Ashton put in a notable performance when his team was on the back foot? Any player can score 6 tries against second rate teams, it takes a world class player to step up against a Southern Hemisphere side and score a game winner, but has he done it? No.
spittingbloodhc 3 months ago
@spittingbloodhc The Autumn Internationals, Ashton's try against Australia
atribecalledsoul 3 months ago
@atribecalledsoul wow, congratulations, one time, world class player, absolute talisman for the game of rugby, I mean, it's not like Jason Robinson, Jeremy Guscott or Martin Johnson did anything better than that, right? Give over, the guy is so overrated.
spittingbloodhc 3 months ago
@spittingbloodhc I didn't say he was world class? You asked when was the last time he done something and I answered.
atribecalledsoul 2 months ago
@spittingbloodhc he just fucked the australian back line in to two peices...just.
moabdah9 1 month ago
Wow, i love the fact that most of the trolls on here probably don't even play rugby and dont actually know how painful a proper hit is like that...
nickrundle1 4 months ago
ciprianis crap!
GwilRugby 4 months ago
And REPLAY!!!
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Ecbrown93 4 months ago
Cipriani is nambi pambi little fuckwhit!
heotuo 5 months ago
Cipriani is better than Flood at the end of the day.
BobbySaysSo 6 months ago
@BobbySaysSo so so incorrect.
gammroe 6 months ago
@BobbySaysSo Yeah and italy will win the 6 nations.
joshsear1 5 months ago
Cipriani has the potential to be worse class. Just needs to man up!!
Justincredible9999 7 months ago
@Justincredible9999
worse class is right
Unevaluated 7 months ago
It's ok he smashed Kelly Brook later on.
brrrrr12 7 months ago 20
no im pretty sure he was just practising his planking :L
teamamericaOo 8 months ago
@unspecifiedcarnage I completely agree bro, it was disgraceful seeing him come on and boss vickery and Shaw around, two world cup winners (well shaw would have been if it wasn't for injury )...he should learn his place... he is still a boy playing a man's game..he should come to SA we will show im how to toughen up...give him a session with the ENFORCER!
TheSpringbok23 9 months ago
Daamm nice hit
MultiBigMickey 9 months ago
im loving cips with the rebels its only going to be the poms loss if he is not in their world cup squad
hobbyglue1 9 months ago
@hobbyglue1 I think I'd rather have a stick with a balloon on top in an international defensive line. How many games has Cipriani lost the rebels because of his frankly embarrassing defence?
MrZogsify 8 months ago
@MrZogsify haha yeah my comment may have been a bit premature his tackling is attrocious, especially when the rebels played the blues and the highlanders. That being said, some of the other (mainly backs) in the side leave much to be desired in defence as well.
hobbyglue1 8 months ago
love that...."mannon ball!"
pyro999maniac 10 months ago
Cipriani's girlfriend hot as hell though.. Kelly Brook
Lukawa345 10 months ago
Cipriani is just a girly wimp that would rather comb his hair than play rugby
theMr2andahalf 11 months ago
playing for the melbourne rebels now isn't he?
doggishfool 11 months ago
Overrated twat.
BeestonBrawler 11 months ago
The thing with Cips is that i think he actually had alot of potential. he just seemed to let fame get to his head and turned into a bit of a twat. But he had the potential to be a very good fly half
jackwrb 11 months ago
cipriani, the next big english, superstar player. never heard that before!
1983honey 1 year ago
That wasnt even a very big hit. Danny is such a woman
JustinRSoles 1 year ago
you call that a hit??
equallyeasilyfuqyou 1 year ago
He got flattened lol
Legowelshy 1 year ago
Great vid love to see some film of lewsey sparking him as well .
housecarl6 1 year ago
Cipriani is a pussy.
Thats why hes gone to Australia.
bristolbarnes 1 year ago
This guy is Shit!
rawkusdawg 1 year ago
Cipriani, may be a talented rugby player, but in a way he acts as an alpha male.
tottfan1993 1 year ago
A lot of hate on here, fact is he's a talented rugby player, so what if he's media hungry? Oh and bringing sexuality into it as a derogatory term is pretty old fashioned, get with the times people.
mutzigmorzine 1 year ago
that's the only way you can get to the talented fly halfs - a late hit. nice one palu, well done on making up for being a nobody by taking out a somebody.
fountainofknowledge 1 year ago
@fountainofknowledge he's only a somebody for banging Kelly Brooke and he can't even do that anymore.
roryduggan 1 year ago
cipriani is a cock muncher.
whessly 1 year ago 10
Cipriani is an arrogant kid who, mainly because of all the media pressure and hype (what I like to call the "Ramprakash effect"), started to believe he was the best player in/for England. It went to his head, as it did to us all, we saw him as the saviour of the English. But it has all come to nothing, he came into the team, tried to boss it around (remember the ignored instructions to Vickery on the field once?) and now he's returned to the relative obscurity of club rugby, where he belongs.
UnspecifiedCarnage 1 year ago
@UnspecifiedCarnage whats that about "the ignored instructions to Vickery on the field once" i haven't heard that before please tell me lol
hanros98 1 year ago
@hanros98 Not sure who we were playing, but Vickery was captain and DC came on just after half-time as a sub... started trying to tell big Phil how to do his job... All Vickery did was turn his back on DC and completely ignore him, because he was being a pretentious arse... It was brilliant, the old guard of English rugby showing that they weren't going to bow to some hyped up little brat.
UnspecifiedCarnage 1 year ago
i'm english and i fucking love this ranga get mullered. What twat seriously lets kelly brook go? has he lost his marbles?
IanTevez 1 year ago
and this kids, is how you DONT take a tackle....standing up
Sleevesboi012 1 year ago
what an overpaid wanabe! as bad as england are now,he still cant fit into there team because ov his massive arrogant ego! bye danny lol
MegaBrett1985 1 year ago 3
In all fairness there are thousands of overpaid players on the rugby planet,hes just one of them who has had extreme pressure put on him by club and country.
where are you from?
08GSmith 1 year ago
cipriani aint nuffin special... and this is coming from another englishman
tobyarsenal 1 year ago
I don't like this...i love it!
Olyy 1 year ago
yes
hanros98 1 year ago
LOL
Talog999 1 year ago
why don't i hear about union's aussies as much as i hear about league's kangaroos?
isnt union that popular in aus or wat?
mma15 1 year ago
i think its "go AUSTRALIA" not "go austriaia"
runwendyrun1 1 year ago
I was there, good game. Aussies deserved it tho.
jackass40mile 1 year ago
dannys GAY!!!!!!!!!!
XxPADDYBOYNIGGAxX 1 year ago
go austraia o sorry to itrupt the cat fight
sanpit01 1 year ago
i agree with bollo 619 - im english and im not an arrogant dick - you get arrogant people in all countries, please dont say things like that cos you never know who youre gonna offend, thanks :-)
martinspoonboy 2 years ago
armitage isnt fukin amazing u twat..tell u wat he is though..fast,dats about it really
mickoo71 2 years ago
fast and that's about it? do you watch rugby? armitage is rock solid under the high ball, a great tactical kicker, passer and elusive runner.
somerandomer 2 years ago
@somerandomer Armitage is a good strike runner, big, fast and strong.
Problem is (and this is the problem with alot of NH backs) he doesn't have the same skills that a SH player does.
He's not dynamic enough, not a great stepper, passer or tackler. Good, but not great.
Jonwallachio 1 year ago
i agree with most of that, although im not sure which SH full backs youre referring to, and id say being solid under the high ball is a faily key attribute for a top full back. muliaina yes, but other SH nations arent too strong at fullback currently. anyway, i didnt say armitage was a world class player- i was replying to someone who said he was fast and nothing else.
he had a shocker against wales though. i think we can all agree on that
somerandomer 1 year ago
@somerandomer Ashley-Cooper is an excellent fullback, but I'm not just talking about full backs, all three quarters. The SH players generally have better handling and passing skills. They are also still more physical than the average NH back. There are exceptions though.
Jonwallachio 1 year ago
It is purely down to the fact that Rugby is the NO.1 sport for the SH. Look at the Europeans with football. They are naturally better than every1 else apart from the odd anomoly. Kids play rugby from the moment they walk, same with kids and football here.
HalfordNick 1 year ago
Rugby isn't the no 1 sport down here. It was in NZ for a long time, and same for white South africans, but in both countries soccer has long had higher participation numbers (in SA rugby is mostly for rich white folk) and in NZ rugby league is taking hold.
In Australia you could argue that rugby union is fourth after Australian football, rugby league and soccer.
It's not popularity that makes us better, it's a better philosophy about the game.
We focus on skills and passing.
Jonwallachio 1 year ago
O yh and Football come on mate, apart from Pele and Maradona? Although Brazil does put money into it's F.A than Spain? and has proved succesful! The rich footballers of Europe The most succesful country in the world in football is Brazil and deservedly so. Atm I can see no other winner than either France, Spain, or Italy. I have serious doubts over the quality of the tournament however being held in an unusual country such as RSA
HalfordNick 1 year ago
@HalfordNick Brazil has far less invested in developing young football players than France, Spain or Italy, but they still get results just as good or better. The reason is their method of development and their philosophy on the game. They play differently to European teams, particularly at the developmental stage. In terms of rugby, the development takes place more at club levelk than school level unless you go to a posh school, in the SH.
Jonwallachio 1 year ago
Oh, and I would argue that while certain Euro countries produce technically excellent soccer players (Spain, Italy, Germany, Holland, the UK to a lesser extent) the South american countries also produce technically excellent players (often better) with far less resources, because they have a great football philosophy of encouraging creative players.
You could use that analogy with SH rugby players. The SH has less money than Europe, but we still produce better players.
Jonwallachio 1 year ago
Thats very interesting to hear about Rugby League being more popular than Union however, from my time as a P.E teacher in New Zealand (Taught Rugby) I can not say there is a massive difference in the way youths are taught to play. The young All Black coaching system is the most efficient coaching system of any sport in the world! which therefore creates the superior team. I noticed no difference in the way children were taught how to play at all.
HalfordNick 1 year ago
armatage is fuckin amazing!!
UKBoi12 2 years ago
@UKBoi12 He really, really isn't.
julianmartin10 2 years ago
funny how the england forwards aren't arsed about him being on the deck. not just me who thinks hes a tosser
robbo2robbo 2 years ago 2
well said
01592840100 2 years ago
cipriani, yet another ovarhyoed and overrated player out of england. they come up so often. armitage last year was the apparent bigshot. no chance.
mustainerulesxx 2 years ago 45
@mustainerulesxx im a london irirsh supposrter and i totally agree, foden is a much better fullback
massivedicke 1 year ago
@mustainerulesxx
i agree and im english
oakdene1000 11 months ago
@mustainerulesxx I agree about Cipriani, but Armitage is still very much in Englands eye and if you watch him a t club level with london irish he can still break a line and play really well. Probably would've been selected in the six nationsif it wasn't for his ban.
ihatejamesbp 11 months ago
@mustainerulesxx i take it your a kiwi/oz/bokka? looks like cipriani is doing pretty well in the super 15 these days....
cliffy84 10 months ago
@mustainerulesxx i agree about cipriani but dylon was injured
MagicMadders 9 months ago
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TheBigjim1992 6 months ago
@mustainerulesxx Disagree majorly. You obviously just didnt give him time. Look at his performance over the warm up matches for the New Zealand World Cup. Without that man we would be a lost hope
keowaz2 5 months ago
@mustainerulesxx armitage has been in good form this season and performed well in the world cup warm up matches so to speak wrongly of him as having 'no chance' is quite pathetic, agree about cipriani though he is a fag and i hope he never wears another england shirt again!
cw270693 4 months ago
@mustainerulesxx
That was so close to an illegal tackle I'm surprised the ref didn't have a word with him.
Shoulder charging is illegal in union. Lucky he managed to get one of his arms around him or he would of been yellowed.
BKsMassive 4 months ago
LOL scotland the pussiest country in the world beating uraguay in pussyness play rugby like men?????? they are shit at rugby they get owned by everyteam in every sport !! all they can do is speak english thats right englands language and just be known as one of the countries conected to england!!!!
jfhghghgh75655 2 years ago
@jfhghghgh75655 and you're surprised that all the celts in the world want to give you a sound going over with a barbed wire bat. you make it so easy to despise the English. You don't work at MacDonalds do you? It sounds a lot more like arrogance dripping off you than fat...
bencedars 2 years ago
hey i'm english and love it!!! please please please don't make the mistake of thinking that all english rugby players are as gay as him!!!! he is a prancing fag that should never have worn the shirt!!!! who is the money on for the woodenspoon this year italy or scotland?? :P
bollo619 2 years ago 28
the thing is this guy just got sighned up by australias new super 15 team the melbourne rebels, talk about suicide!
cheng4PM 1 year ago
@bollo619 .OK, so, all the rugby players are not gays but are the supporters all like you? Stupid and Ignorant? I really hope not.
solayana 1 year ago
@bollo619 I'd love to be able to put my money on England for the wooden spoon. But depends on the team you pick as to whether you win the whole thing beautifully or just end up getting your arses handed to you by Ireland and France. Plus being beaten by Wales and Scotland isn't unheard of when England have a bad day too. Mind you so long as you don't pick this piece if shit (getting deservedly laid out) then I reckon England will always do better
glassfone 1 year ago
O-W-N-E-D
MRCATSHARK 2 years ago
cipriani is a right english pussy
he deserved to get smashed
faggot
scotland play rugby like real men we fight cipriani is too pussy to play rugby
pocahontismcglincey1 2 years ago
get CIPRIANI and VAINAKOLO back in the ENGLAND team.
england4ever1000 2 years ago
yes do, they will make england very crap
beserkboy101 2 years ago
lol what has happened to cipriani...one minute hes englands great hope and the next...nothing
mrbillymorris12 2 years ago
m8 he goes home to kelly brook everynight, he dnt giv a fuck bout rugby lol
ccfc104 2 years ago 2
lol fair enough
dont think i would either
mrbillymorris12 2 years ago
Yeh i was wondering that, didn't he have like one of those depression phases? And england4ever1000 is right, we should have more of the capable players in the team, not try to copy the Australians in creating a new brilliant young team, cus' they can do it well, but we should just not even try if i'm honest!
grundu 2 years ago
i disagree they should forget about the pensioners they keep bringing back to the team if they want to move forward
ok so it will mean a few years of struggling but it will improve look at the improvements australia have made in that game against us (wales by the way)
they hammered us after struggling for a long time after losing greats like gregan, larkham and latham
mrbillymorris12 2 years ago
But i just don't like the jeering losing brings, cus' when we get beat by the Welsh, i live on the border, every Welshman around starts singing and whenever you bring the sport up they always say, 'but didn't we beat you?' and its like so fucking annoying, sorry, and i just think they need two or three more experienced players to get the rest of the team on path, yeh if you don't fully understand what i just said, don't worry, i don't understand most of it either, i was just waffling on XD
grundu 2 years ago
lol dont worry i pretty much got the gist
its because rugby is sort of like a religion in wales, and we are as passionate about it as al quaeda are about islam (and that is not an exaggeration)
and when you combine our love of rugby with our huge hatred for england (no offence) then obviously going to rub it in when we beat you...which is quite often :D;)
mrbillymorris12 2 years ago
see, thats making me feel RAWR, your just so much more confident, i suppose it's the fact that, don't mean to offend you, you haven't got a reputation of being a top top team, as we have been at the top for years and are now going downhill, but trust me, now your rising up into a similar position and no doubt a higher position, and when you begin to slow down, you will find the torment infuriating
grundu 2 years ago
its ok i know we arent really the best team around
and no disrespect but even when england won the world cup they were (pardon my french) dogshit
once again i dont mean to be offensive but they basically had 8 fat people standing in front of a ridiculously good kicker who won the tournament for them - so boring and not the way a tournament should be one but fair dos at least you won it haha
and we know what it feels like to come down from the top our team in the 70s was the best ever and then...
mrbillymorris12 2 years ago
I think England have fat people, you have Powell, quite a slim person compared to Englands, can run fast and hit hard, ours start walking after roughly fifty minutes, and so much for our good kicker, we had Jonny, then he pissed off some where and we get Cipriani, he then disappears and then, then we have Goode, the by-word in English Rugby for kicking, not for points, just kick it any where any time, and when it comes to points, he misses like 60% of the time
grundu 2 years ago
lol actually i was just talking about the 2003 world cup squad and style of play
now, no offence once again, you have nothing lol
mrbillymorris12 2 years ago
wait, i don't understand, are you saying that the England team, in the 2003 world cup, was outperformed by the Welsh?
grundu 2 years ago
haha no
not by a long way
the welsh were nowhere near as well organised as the english team
what the english team had was a strong set of forwards and an extremely good kicker
wales had neither
they had good backs who played exciting rugby
but that doesnt win you tournaments unfortunately
all im saying is the welsh were more entertaining
mrbillymorris12 2 years ago
Yes definately, the English were just strategic and to me very, bland, the Welsh though, as you say, were far more imaginative and seemed in a class of there own at times. But i don't think any team can rely on mere creativness, there has to be an organised core that reacts to anything, such as the English at most times, and which the Welsh i would say have been building on the last few years
grundu 2 years ago
i think weve been trying to mix that defensive organisation with the flair that weve always had in attack
it worked in 2005 and 2008 but we cant seem to do it against the big three down in the southern hemisphere
you are right
no team can rely on attack all the time
you have to have a strong defence
england had that
and they basically did their best not to concede tries and then left it to jonny wilkinson to score the points
very boring, but very effective in all fairness
mrbillymorris12 2 years ago
Well, at present i would bet Wales would fair much greater than England against the 'big three', and i don't know about you, but Scotland seems to have over taken both of us, defeating Australia, leading Argentina for like 60 minutes, well shocking
grundu 2 years ago
well no disrespect to scotland because i like them and think they are a good team under good management but i think they came up against australia on a good day from their point of view
if they would have come up against the australia wales played against they would have lost as badly as we did i think
mrbillymorris12 2 years ago
Yeh probably, but don't ya' feel the optimism in the Scotland camp? They've improved from the previous 6 Nation's and I personally believe they may be able to win more than one match next year, though not beating Wales and Ireland but quite possibly England, and maybe on a vrey good day, France
grundu 2 years ago
ye they have shown a lot of improvement in fairness
i dont think anyone in the northern hemisphere could beat ireland on their day at the moment
but i think they would actually fancy their chances against wales with the form we are in at the moment
mrbillymorris12 2 years ago
Yeh, but if you get a few of your star players back in, the ones who really know how to bring a team together, then you may, as much as it kills me, win the grand slam again, Ireland are good, but if they lose O'Driscoll then you'll win, France are fairly easy to beat, England may not be up to scratch, Scotland could just fall short and the less said about Italy the better, i just hope it's like the last game of this years 6 nations, you lot v Ireland, i remember that game very well, so happy XD
grundu 2 years ago
i hope so as well
wales and ireland have seemed to dominate the six nations for the past few years
then again a few of our players might get injured again and a few of irelands players may get injured
you just dont know anymore
the gap between the best teams in europe and the worst is narrowing all the time and a few injuries can make all the difference
mrbillymorris12 2 years ago
I hate it when injuries shrowd good games, the proffessionals should play in the clubs, but get three games off to rest and ready themselves for full internationals, such as Cipriani, playing a game a week before an international friendly against France, and he pulls a fucking groin muscle putting him out for two weeks
grundu 2 years ago
i doubt the clubs would be happy with that though
mrbillymorris12 2 years ago
True, though pehaps the IRB and the National Team Boards of each country can offer some compensation for the loss, a payment prehaps, or for debts to be rid of
grundu 2 years ago
money isnt necessarily going make up for them losing all the time though is it?
what would they do with it?
buy some more international superstars that will hardly play because they are away on international duty so often?
and i cant imagine the IRB or the national team boards will have the financial strength to just throw cash at clubs that lose out because of players out on international duty
there really doesnt seem to be a right answer
mrbillymorris12 2 years ago
I suppose, jus' guess we'll have to continue watching half manned teams, no different than what we have now is it, and plus at times, I have to admit it does create some exhilirating matches
grundu 2 years ago
haha what would the world cup be without a few injuries knocking a top team out of contention
mrbillymorris12 2 years ago
exciting, it is funny seeing such things happening cough*especially Wales* cough
grundu 2 years ago
hahahahaha
i can see england even after a couple of shit years peaking when the world cup comes along and getting really far or worse winning it
and you wonder why no one likes england lol
mrbillymorris12 2 years ago 2
at the end of it all, come on ireland!!
ANDYV2K8 2 years ago
and as for powell...he is terrible...he was good for a little while but now he runs straight into people and they just stop him in his tracks
you can have him if you want him lol we'll trade you him for that centre of yours thats moved to france...whats his name again?
mrbillymorris12 2 years ago
Oh, do you mean Wilkinson by any chance? You can fuck off XD he's the only thing keeping our team winning, actually thinking about the England team, Care, Barnes, Strettle, Chuter, Worsely, Haskell, Moody, Armitage and Monye seem to be all missing from a lot of important matches, Wales too have a few missing great's aint' they?
grundu 2 years ago
nah not wilkinson (although we wouldnt mind him) that centre that moved to a french club last summer i cant remember his hame
and we have got a few missing yes
ian gough, adam jones, ian evans, mike phillips, lee byrne and i dont know what the hell the situation with gavin henson is
all i know is if he gets his head together and gets fit he will go straight into the first VX and give us the creativity in midfield we need
mrbillymorris12 2 years ago
riki flutey thats the one i was on about
just came to me
mrbillymorris12 2 years ago
God, i would say both our teams are severely undermanned, and yet, Wales, so annoyingly, still appears the better side, but one thing i don't get is, Wales has a great National team, but as far as i gather, her clubs are somewhat lacking the reputation of the national stage, cus' England has many great clubs, Bath, Wasps, Saracens (I think there Welsh come to think bout' it) but i've only heard of Cardiff Blues as a big Welsh club, i just don't get it
grundu 2 years ago
well once again i dont mean to offend you but those clubs are only big compared to other english clubs (saracens are an english club by the way)
the scarlets, cardiff blues and the ospreys are (in my opinion) as good if not better than those club, the ospreys really on paper should be the best team in the northern hemisphere but the names arent living up to their reputation and are not playing well enough together unfortunately
but you are right wales only has 4 regions play top class rugby
mrbillymorris12 2 years ago
mrbillymorris12 2 years ago
Bloomin' eck', that's like, what half the entire Welsh National team right there, no wonder the other Welsh clubs aren't exactly up to scratch XD
grundu 2 years ago
well you would think that wouldnt you
but on form they arent even the best in wales - they are actually playing pretty poorly
the cardiff blues are looking by far the better team at the moment
mrbillymorris12 2 years ago
I hate shit fly halfs. Unless I'm playing them. In which case I introduce them to Mr. Floor.
AjRhCp 2 years ago 2
but he does have kelly brooke....mmm
davehego 2 years ago 2
cipriani is such a woman
Murphinator72 2 years ago
not to mention a tosser lol
thyuiooo 2 years ago 3
this is nothing compared to josh lewswey's tackle
pingpong1421 2 years ago
Josh Lewseys tackle was half a decade ago. Why do people still keep bringing it up?
z0mgrugbyreturns 2 years ago
because it was bloody unforgettable!
JasonNepster 2 years ago 3
he had it coming if he was gonna stand that flat!
bencedars 2 years ago
The English cunt deserved it ! He is shite!!
ronanogaramad 2 years ago 4
and you're a professional rugby player too then? Of course you are.
skatefreak199 2 years ago
England need to start getting some foreigners in the side, like cricket. It's the only way you will ever be any good.
tlabuscagne 2 years ago
they have more foreigners than the other countries already! if anything theyr problem is getting some decent home grown talent
AtkiUlsterman 2 years ago
Cipriani is a loser. He can't even get on the England Saxons team that lost the Churchill cup!
Beantheredonedat 2 years ago 7
agreeed he is very overrated. no denying he is a pro player but not a patch compared to some of the british greats
ifanlad 2 years ago
he was amazing pre-ankle break. people were asking a bit much of him expecting that straight away again last year
somerandomer 2 years ago
He was rushed back into action, coupled with the fact Brian Smith tried to overhaul the entire game plan.
It was a painful time for England
vinniechan 2 years ago
@Beantheredonedat they won 2010 :)
achiko88 1 year ago
@Beantheredonedat how far have you got in pro rugby? thought so......
Rugby10Nut 1 year ago
this is one of the times when i love australia (; well played
ilegend147 2 years ago
i was at that match :)
21banana12 2 years ago
Well we've won it twice
UnitedAus10 2 years ago
Cipriani is the most overated shitbag in world rugby.
And he got caught with a ladyboy didnt he?
UnitedAus10 2 years ago 5
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Aussie Scum. Fuck Australia.
macphersonleedsunite 2 years ago
fuck you
WesternForce1989 2 years ago
im english and i think cipriani is good for club but hes shit for england hes also a pussy i think toby flood played well good in the last 6 nations and hes the best fly half weve got
johnpdedwards 2 years ago
We only won the world cup m8 thts how shit we r ;)
HalfordNick 2 years ago
ya it wouldnt happen if you england fags could play rugby
MrMrKewl 2 years ago
This is why I'd rather have palu than richard brown
Palu + George Smith + Rocky Elsom with Pocock on the bench has to be one of the best back rows in the world. Only South Africa can match that depth.
Oh yeah and cipriani is a homo, at least wilkinson was a hell of a player
0wn4g3SPECIALIST 2 years ago
shut up u idiots ur all old tossers hu cant c talent when its rite infront of u, this guy is the future for the england team, we cant hope goode or tom may can carry on , cus theyre so old, and also they lack flare, start buildin a new team!!!
jackthemultilad 2 years ago
Cip got run over by a Japanese player who's 2 inched shorter and possibly half a stone lighter in Saxon's game. he threw an enormous number of hospital passes against RSA. Against NZ Flood was a lot more accurate (tho he needs to play a foot closer to gain line). Tait quietly put in the work and not talking himself up in the media so look where he is now.
vinniechan 2 years ago
brilliant. he is a tosser.
mcevans 2 years ago
What's the point of this?
Slow forward makes late shoulder charge. Nothing to do with Cipriani.
didgerman66 2 years ago
But he madethe tackle with his arms! I like seeing fag rugby players getting hammerd... like Dan Carter but he normally breaks the tackle and scores or sets up a try!
TonyWho0 2 years ago
Led with the shoulder, penalty.
As for the rest, yawn.....
didgerman66 2 years ago
leading with the shoulder isn't a penalty, failing to wrap up with your arms is
rob12192 2 years ago
The laws say you must not tackle dangerously, or late, that was a straight penalty, no question.
didgerman66 2 years ago 2
yes its illegal because its late and above the shoulders, not because he lead with his shoulder. This is an illegal and dangerous tackle, but not because of his shoulder, because it was high & late
rob12192 2 years ago
I hate him, cocky idiot who backs it up with nothing. The only people that like him are english supporters.
TheTotalRugby 2 years ago 2
You obviously have never seen him play before he broke his ankle have you? Sounds like your a very jealous person, i wonder where your from, mmmmmmm let me guess...
Sterlingjob 2 years ago
Yea ive seen him play a few good games for wasps, but hes terrible for england with or without a pin in his ankle.
TheTotalRugby 2 years ago