Why not? The lower the IAS at the same Climb-Thrust-Setting, the higher the Climbrate can be. With this Climbrate you can reach your Initial Cruise Level very fast and the faster you reach your Cruise Level you will save Fuel burn because the lower Windpressure at high Altitudes.
Hi lzd. Thanks for keeping these vids coming. Just one question. Can you explain what determines the aircrafts rate of climb or descent when in FLCH mode. I fly the PMDG 737`s a lot and can never really understand or anticipate what climb or decent rate the autopilot will take when in this mode. Cheers
There are alot of factors. Temperature, air density, current altitude, aircraft weight, speed....
Basically, climb thrust will be maintained and the rate of climb or descent will depend on what speed is maintained. To help you understand, try this. Fly at ECON speed and do a step climb using FLCH. Note the ROC. Now, fly at MAX RATE speed (found on VNAV CLB pg and it's usually around 220 kt) and do a step climb. Note the ROC
I think there's a speed limit of 250 kts at 10 000 ft. So VNAV will almost level the plane off to reduce speed. Have a look at VNAV pg to see if there's a speed transition entered. You can delete it.
What is the normal FMA for descent in the T7? Until when does the thrust stay on IDLE (eg. when does it go to SPD)? If it is on IDLE and VNAV PTH, what controls the speed? (PSS doesn't have it right as it always uses SPD mode during descent as slionboy mentioned)
If VNAV PTH is used, you'll see SPD change to IDLE on descent. Once the thrust levers are at idle, it changes to HOLD.
It'll change to SPD whenever thrust is commanded to maintain the target speed.
On IDLE and VNAV PTH, speed is not really controlled. Autopilot adjusts the pitch to maintain the desired descent profile and autothrust remains idle. Actual speed can 'run away' from the desired VNAV speed, especially if the aircraft is high on profile.
Thanks. PSS is pretty off for VNAV descent then...
I saw on PFD Descent videos that sometimes VNAV PTH changed to VNAV SPD for a short time and then back to PTH. Does that happen if speed needs to be managed?
Yes, SPD intervention is used (i.e. opening the speed window by pushing the speed knob) when the speed 'runs away'. When that happens, VNAV SPD is annunciated.
lzd772, fantastic video as always! May I know which airport you were taking off from? Also, there was some ATC chatter around the 6:00 mark, was that aimed at you? I seem to hear Singapore ___ x-ray charlie, why no flight number? Training or ferry flight?
from 17.000 to 35.000 in about 5min...=D... whats up there??
makirigermany 1 year ago
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Why not? The lower the IAS at the same Climb-Thrust-Setting, the higher the Climbrate can be. With this Climbrate you can reach your Initial Cruise Level very fast and the faster you reach your Cruise Level you will save Fuel burn because the lower Windpressure at high Altitudes.
CowBonbon 5 months ago
hmmm climbed to 35000ft from 17000 in 5 mins?? at around 270 kts????
sid17391 2 years ago
Hi Sir. Brilliant video yet again.
1. Why did you not fly around the bad weather that appeared on the screen.
2. what determines whether or not you fly through turbulance or go around it.
Many thanks! Keep the videos coming.
kamyil 2 years ago
1. Too widespread. Anyway it was a layer of cloud, not a thunderstorm cell.
2. The severity of the weather returns. The returns were mostly green so it would not be too bad to go through it.
lzd772 2 years ago
Ok cheers - i`ll try experimenting with that and hopefully get the hang of it a little more.
spongebobbignob 2 years ago
Hi lzd. Thanks for keeping these vids coming. Just one question. Can you explain what determines the aircrafts rate of climb or descent when in FLCH mode. I fly the PMDG 737`s a lot and can never really understand or anticipate what climb or decent rate the autopilot will take when in this mode. Cheers
spongebobbignob 2 years ago
There are alot of factors. Temperature, air density, current altitude, aircraft weight, speed....
Basically, climb thrust will be maintained and the rate of climb or descent will depend on what speed is maintained. To help you understand, try this. Fly at ECON speed and do a step climb using FLCH. Note the ROC. Now, fly at MAX RATE speed (found on VNAV CLB pg and it's usually around 220 kt) and do a step climb. Note the ROC
lzd772 2 years ago
In fact, in the PSS777, after reaching 10000ft during descent, the ROD starts to slow down a lot, from -1200 indication on the VSI to -200VSI.
Then I was forced to use either FLCH or the V/S.
Do you have any idea why? (Probably settings in VNAV etcs...)
Thanks?
slionboy 2 years ago
Not sure..what does the FMA indicate?
lzd772 2 years ago
Thrust IDLE | VNAV | LNAV
PSS didn't programmed it to be Thrust IDLE during descent, it only say spd. but I believe in normal descent it should be Thrust IDLE right?
slionboy 2 years ago
I think there's a speed limit of 250 kts at 10 000 ft. So VNAV will almost level the plane off to reduce speed. Have a look at VNAV pg to see if there's a speed transition entered. You can delete it.
lzd772 2 years ago
Hm, But I didn't enter a speed transition unless you are talking about the default 250/10000 entered automatically by the FMS.
But the funny thing is that it is already at a fixed speed and don't require it to level off but it is still descending slowly.
slionboy 2 years ago
Yes, I was talking about the default one. You can delete it.
Well, then I'm not sure why it behaves like this. Perhaps you can check with the experts like jim or R1door
lzd772 2 years ago
Hi lzd772,
What is the normal FMA for descent in the T7? Until when does the thrust stay on IDLE (eg. when does it go to SPD)? If it is on IDLE and VNAV PTH, what controls the speed? (PSS doesn't have it right as it always uses SPD mode during descent as slionboy mentioned)
RixceU 2 years ago
If VNAV PTH is used, you'll see SPD change to IDLE on descent. Once the thrust levers are at idle, it changes to HOLD.
It'll change to SPD whenever thrust is commanded to maintain the target speed.
On IDLE and VNAV PTH, speed is not really controlled. Autopilot adjusts the pitch to maintain the desired descent profile and autothrust remains idle. Actual speed can 'run away' from the desired VNAV speed, especially if the aircraft is high on profile.
lzd772 2 years ago
Thanks. PSS is pretty off for VNAV descent then...
I saw on PFD Descent videos that sometimes VNAV PTH changed to VNAV SPD for a short time and then back to PTH. Does that happen if speed needs to be managed?
RixceU 2 years ago
Yes, SPD intervention is used (i.e. opening the speed window by pushing the speed knob) when the speed 'runs away'. When that happens, VNAV SPD is annunciated.
lzd772 2 years ago
what plane is this? XD 737 maybe?
IRAQ4EVER95 2 years ago
5 stars!
looks exactly like pmdg ;)
sirlaps 2 years ago
sadly pmdg doesn't has a 777 :(
patrickcramer 2 years ago
lzd772, fantastic video as always! May I know which airport you were taking off from? Also, there was some ATC chatter around the 6:00 mark, was that aimed at you? I seem to hear Singapore ___ x-ray charlie, why no flight number? Training or ferry flight?
EdwinLee2001 2 years ago
wat is the climb rate? looks fast.
venichen1 2 years ago
As usual awesome video Izd. can you tell me why you slow to 270knots from 300knots? was this due the weather or procedural?
tomohawk46 2 years ago
Yes, weather. Makes the ride slightly better and that speed gives optimal maneuvering margins during turbulence.
lzd772 2 years ago
Is there a minimum angle of attack at which the seat belt signs have to be on? Such as 10 degrees nose up etc?
Qantas25 2 years ago
No.
lzd772 2 years ago
Whoops. I meant to say maximum, apologies.
Qantas25 2 years ago
Well, when pitch attitude is in excess of 10 degrees, people will have alot of difficulty walking in the cabin
lzd772 2 years ago
Wow, what a climbrate. I gues you won't contact radar but mission control lol
immerrocknroll 2 years ago
As Always, Amazing vid Izd! your a true inspiration......
skyranch05 2 years ago
always lovely.. :)
OELEU 2 years ago