Sorry, but yes, gay/same-sex/ homosexual behavior is sin....Jesus loves humanity and therefore preached and advocated the Law and Torah of God. He never taught that it is good for anyone to break the Law,but, rather, he forgave those he sinned and sought repentance (for example, the woman taken in adultery and the lame man). The true proof of God's love and the greatest miracle of God was the atonement & resurrection. God raised Jesus & now anyone who confesses & repents can be FREE from sin
The C.D.C. (The center for disease control) 1) 85% of all male sexual transmitted aids cases are from homosexual contact. 2. Homosexual men have an H.I.V. Infection rate 60 times higher than general public. 3. 60% of all syphilis cases from homosexual & bisexual men. 4. The average life expectancy for a homosexual is 46yrs of age. It's wise & loving to oppose a man because of his destructive behavior. Others call it...intolerant!
all black men go the otherway some just keep it on the down low better then others i seen the biggest black thugs and rappers take it in the ass they say 85%of southern rappers are bi or gay and in africa they fuck one another ass down tro the white meat real talk they say 93% pureto ricans are fruity they sleep with each other brother sister cousin man on man in pureto rico is every were more gays there then any were in the world
@spacemask other than the statement that "ALL BLACK MEN GO THE OTHER WAY" and that most men in Africa are fucking each other, the rest is super true especialy about the Ricans. thay are preety damm sex crazy and will screw anything if they get the green light., they also have the lowest rape rates around cause too many people are giving it away.. so if you want sex, get you a RICAN (LOL)
@etrax2000 ya my fault your right got the statistcs wrong and the african ones were based on morocans not black africans black africans would cut a dick off if you ever tryed comming near them with it they dont play that homo shit but ya ricans are crazy i was in pureto rico and never seen so much imbreeding in my life i seen cousins geting married and they say its a red neck thing but i seen more creepy ashit in P.R. that i would never fuck one of them and they fuck wit animals
No way man. It must be who you've been seeing and hang around. All black men are not homosexual not for a second. Some are but most aren't. Historically hyper masculine men are always fags / bisexual. Gangsters are the modern day hyper masculine male so it makes sense that they're all bisexual. As far as Africans the thug ones are definitely fags.
shit is disgusting but wtf do you expect from a faggot?
the biggest problem i have with faggots is that they are like vampires
there could be 100 faggots around them but they will be attracted to the straight man.I witnessed this first hand a couple weeks ago when i drunk ass faggot asked me to dance. If i was 18 i woulda kicked him in his bitch ass chin. they love young teenagers too. coming up in dc walking home solo from gogos there was ALWAYS some faggot asking if i need a ride/head.
At what point will bm take responsibility for their own actions and stop blaming bw. (i'm directing t his to the guy who said the bw would tell everyone about his bi-sexualty.) If he would stand up like a man and not hide the fact that he is attracted to men - then she wouldn have to tell. The point is - don't be ashame of who you are.
I have no problem with any man being gay. The problem i have is when you try to lie about it and hide it. Actually marry women to try to hide it, tears up peoples lives: particulerly their wives. Its not right and it hurts people. I say just tell people what you are from jump and your life will be alot better and you'll be free.
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I hate only that they got a loud fem queen as one of the reps for the gay community even though there is a masculine gay man there this was placed here for comic relief and to be degrading and to invalid the message. horrible !
this is why aids is spread im sorry but if you a DL men and you are dating a female she should be told she should have a choice to choose to be with you if your that way,if your gay be open about it or bi.
@Tayeonce That's aprt of the reason aids spread like wild fire, because NO ONe cares what others are doing behind closed doors. Do you! You just can't do me and him too. Or me and her for that matter. But I don't want a man that likes men. So be honest. Not everyone is going to use your sexuality against. Some of really don't care. But if you're trying to get at me, I have a right to know. So I can have a choice too.
Most hate crimes against gays are committed by white men. Also, if a white teenager comes out of the closet, his family is more likely to disown him than a black family would.
Because they represent the majority of the population. Of these white men committing these crimes against gay men you'll find that most of these men are bisexual men killing overtly gay guys.
Being homosexual is nasty and unnatural. A woman looks better, smells better and I'm pretty sure she feels better. It ain't about masculinity because the hardest dudes in the pen are faggots. Homosexuality is just nasty, I don't even like fucking women in the ass, I do it per request
@Alara0625 If you don't even like doing it to a woman, then why? Because she asked? That sounds crazy to me. And in my opinion, since asses in both sexes serve the same purpose, if you stick ya dick in one what's to stop you from sticking ya dick in another. Anal sex is filthy! Period!!! But to each his own. It's just my opinion
Pardon my typing what I meant to say is they want men to cum in their ass. Me personally I love pleasing women, it's the ultimate fun. So I guess that's why I do it.
I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR A DOWN LOW MAN!! I have been though it, with my ex-husband. He turn me to be a basket case at that time. I was scared to even date again not kmowing what to expect. When guys ask me why I left my husband and I say he was a bisexual. Then I say what I would do to him if it happen again,I don't here when then again. NOW WHAT THAT TELLS YOU HA!!! So ladies don't talk to me if your man is cheating on you with a woman, come to me when it's about another man. CAN YOU DIG IT!!!
@gmvigne72....unfortunately I have had the same experience I dated a black man who was very macsuline....I knew he was cheating, you can feel when someone is not being honest. He would laugh at me and say he didn't have another girl friend. After many years of dating he asked me if I could be in a relationship with a bi-sexual man...I walked away from that relationship and never regretted leaving. I am a black woman who is now afraid to date a black man...it's been 2 years
@charnv48 Don't be afraid, just be careful. It's not just Black men who are on the DL. It's people in general. People of all races, colors, cultures. So don't let the devil make you believe it's just Black men. You'll mess around and run right to the thing you think your running from. Ask questions. And better yet, if your not married, wait on the LORD. Good, hnest, hrd-working, educated Black men who love them some Black women are still out.
You got that right. Goes both ways though. It's really bad for us straight men who want straight women because lesbianism seems like a fad amongst a lot of women these days and a lot of women are going that way or if not they support it and see nothing wrong with it. I know what charm48 is thinking because i have to fight myself from thinking if all women are lesbian or will become lesbian because it's so promoted and unpredictable.
Black men can't deal with being gay because they have such fragile egos--low self esteem and tremendous arrogance combines for a lethal combination. Black men want all the trappings and privileges of being a man in society, the authority and respect but they want none of the responsibility--partly because they can't fulfill the role. They don't get the education so they don't get the jobs and employment discrimination is rampant. Black men have to fix themselves. Black women have to move on.
That's bull. You're just a hurt woman. Black women love black men regardless of your bitter experiences. Whether you like it or not we're in this together for better and worse. We can't separate from one another.
first of all! Im black and if I was white green or yellow why da hell would I want to man who likes men? thats a turn off! duh!!! not to mention its nasty and unnatural Im not goin to except what im against
And i wish some people would stop putting the comments about blaming black women, how is it our fault? Like my mom always said, if you are ashamed of something, then you shouldn't do it. That means you know deep down in your heart IT IS WRONG. If a man is going to be gay, he's needs to be honest and not get involved with women. They're just bringing HIV more to our black communities and raising the statistics of cases among black people period. Take responsibility for YOUR actions.
The issue is not black men engaging in homosexual activity with one another. The issue is empowerment and choice. Their lack of honesty by not informing their female partners that they enjoy sex with me also is the issue. Their dishonesty in their sexual practices are "deadly" to black women. If you like having sex with men, just leave us the hell alone.
@Monty4117 I could understand the honesty issue, but let that go across the bored. Allow that honesty to transcend to telling you that he is cheating on you with a woman, using drugs, picking up prostitutes. Don't just limit that honesty to him having sex with men. What's deadly is a woman having "UNPROTECTED" sex with a man that she trusts. Her body is HER responsibility. I would NEVER put that responsibility on a man.
That's the problem. You're still condoning their actions and giving them the ok to be gay. With homosexuals there isn't any grey. You know the saying "if you give the devil an inch he'll take a mile" well that's what you're doing right now. Because all you're doing is passing him on the next black woman because you're not dealing with the problem which is he's homo
It's sad that some black men would rather hide behide a black women, than to be honest with himself and with her. Black women have ENOUGH problems to comtend with without being some SICK man-boy's security blanket. If you are that low down that you have to lie and deceive someone who loves you than you need to be RIDICULED and SHAMED!
The same goes for the black women on the DL or blatant lesbians that swear they're straight. It makes it seem like there's no more straight black women in this country anymore.
i think being gay is bullshit just like they say about girls that being lesbian is fake if all thy have to do is lay on their backs and take it in. "now and days boys can take pills to get peter up and running right b4 they are about to do it"
Black men are the most fearful of homosexuality because it is drilled into them
sence childhood being gay is the worst thing in the world. But actually more black men are on the down low directly because of this! they dont find female satisfying like another man so they sneak around getting sex with other men.Gay doesnt mean unmasculine? some of the most masculine men are GAY.
@globehunter2 no your right about black men being on the DL the most but @ the same time your wrong, we are like that because as a child "black child" we have to go to church "every dam Sunday" and in church they teach us that if your gay u go to hell. and we go to church because every scene the slave trade blacks needed some type of hope and god is always open to all, and people still Carrie on their traditions go to church every Sunday,,, so it comes from there.
@scotty10211 Your right on that point! the black church has said that being gay is Wrong` and God hates gays and doesnt want anyone to help or be friends with gays..etc. But black people have been inslaved and hated also? just for being black.
So they should understand prejudise more simply by being victims of it them selves.
Kids are instinctively repulsed by homosexuality and know it's wrong. That's why most kids who are molested still turn out straight while growing up to adulthood.
@MrShenzhenGuy Most child molestors are straight men not gay. just like dead beat dads and wife beaters are straight men. Kids who may be repulsed by homosexuality? is primarily due to homophobec parents teaching them to be. Kids are the most opened minded beings on earth, its adults who carry judgmental
prejudise in general. Just like ancient Greece and Rome for example where homosexuality was accepted
as a right of passage for young males into manhood. Homosexuality is natural.
1. Not true. Most children who are molested are boys not girls. Primarily those who molest boys are men and other boys. Which makes the molester homosexual by default.
2. Not true. Statistically women and men beat one another on about equal rates. But if you compare the rate of homosexual domestic abuse it's much higher than heterosexual abuse.
3. Kids are impressionable and easily manipulated this is why you target them for rape.
@MrShenzhenGuy I agree` thats straight men who claim they like females but really prefer boys` because boys have more body parts to enjoy. The female body is less enjoyable always have been. Straight domestic abuse is higher` because straight people out number gays in world population.Rape and rapist are mostly straight men! this is a fact, also serial killers and pedophiles are straight men..etc. Rome and Greece were destroyed for various reasons not homosexuality.
And when they get HIV, they expect sistahs to be there and take care of them, but it is our fault they cannot come out. F them. Esp. that fat one who wants kids. They want it all, but don't want to own it all. And as for the MD, yeah idiot, you have to talk about HIV and condoms since black bi/gay men are catching that shit like flies.
This is excuse, If you know shakkete or shameka is going to but you on blast get with Betty so she can hold you hand and say let work it out so yall both can up hold yall image for whom ever that doesnt really exist.
it's very taboo in the african american community about being bisexual or gay, hell even what you wear on your body you get critizied. the Black community can be plain ignorant all the time, no matter if you are perfect or not.
@Scene68 No one is perfect, but you're right though...there's a lot of criticism in the African American community. Personally, I could care less if a black man is gay. My only problem would be for him to come to me, acting like he's interested and wanting to be with me, develop a relationship with me then behind it all, getting fucked by another man. A black man can be gay if he wants to...just be honest about the shit.
@Witchy1976 i feel the same way, black men gay dont bother me, as long as he dont come on no hatin or competing type sh*tt i dont care but if he lie to me, that's the issue in terms of getting into relation and yes i would never date a man who been with a man or like men or whatever and i can tell if so
being gay is not a problem but hating yourself is ,you can not stop having the sexual desires that come with who you are and sexual orientation but you can choose to stop having sex or have sex with someone of the opposite sex but to get turned on you would need the thought of someone of your own gender still sining if being gay is a sin which it is not besides what the bible says the bible says alot of things that does not make it true
Truth of the matter is everything he said about whites and blacks views on homosexuality is true. I went out to eat with some friends at TGIF not to long ago and all the black ppl were snarling and making comments but the whites looked and kept eating their food. It wasnt a big deal with them. Until black ppl open their minds to difference then we will have forever have DOWN LOW MEN
@mydreamz8809 Shut up. Down low men is not the fault of black people's views on homosexuality. There are plenty of white people that are totally against homosexuality. Gay black men need to take responsibility for their actions and not make excuses for being on the down low.
Why do Black Folks think they are the only ones on the planet who deal with this phenomenon? The closet has existed as long a sexuality has existed, in every culture throughout history. Just cuz you callin the Closet the DL doesnt mean its new or exclusively Black. These men need to speak more to others who have been through this they would learn a lot more. WTF?
2. The closet only exists because of the bigotry and homophobia that thrives in straight institutions like the Family, The Church and Our Schools. The only problem with homosexual orientation is all the terrible ignorance that surrounds it.
As a straight black male I find the whole man on man thing less appealing then anything else I can imagine, these men are weak and sad , they do this because they want too , I have served in the military been in the field and at sea and at no time did another man ever seem appealing to me , be true to thy ownself, To thy ownself be true, those words are out of the question to the DL Blackmale, I live by no women no sex End of story.
Do you really think people choose who they are attracted to? Do you think that anyone would choose a life of persecution, discrimination and alienation? The problem with us is that we need to take our egos and what feels natural to us, and consider the shoes that others must feel. Just because you are not attracted to men, doesn't make you no "weaker" or stronger than any gay man or visa versa. People need to just learn to focus on their own issues; we wouldnt have time to judge others.
People do choose, if a guy is bi he can turn straight period. He won't like guys at all, that's molarky. Some people are weak! They grow to accept it. Those feelings are nasty if you were straight most of your life. So that's bullshit.
@Malfunction0982 yea if your gay and you dont want to be the most i can tell you is that you should make your own little world in your head where you have a BF and over and over he keep hurting you. i think you will get over it and think i dont want a man anymore if he keeps hurting me LOL
you really belive you are going to hell for being gay yes its in the bible but haveing sex before marriage have kids without being married e.t.c in that case everybody going to hell everybody has a sin they are born with so if you live you life good and belive in god your not going to hell.and a matter a fact i read the bible iam not gay but being gay is really not big thing they where talking about in the bible it was having kids without being married and having sex before marriage
@brianb3000 Being gay is not a big thing in the bible? Are you serious, In the bible it says that same sex partners is an abomination before God. What book did you read?
@godishere7 i am replying to your comment about not wanting to be gay anymore because you want to make it to heaven. Question - So while you were practicing homosexuality how did it make you feel? Did you know it was wrong and ignored it or did you think you were born with it?
@aferg76 I've been like this ever since I was 7 and now I'm 19. I really can't help my feelings towards males. But if it's wrong and would lead you to hell then I'd rather not be like this and not go to hell.
@godishere7 That's right, baby. What people fail to realize is it's not the person that is judged it is the lifestyle or the sin. And if I die in sin, whether it is lying, stealing, or whatever, then I am just as likely to be punished for eturnity, as well. Stay srong, you can make it. And if you stumble and fall GOD is always ready to help you up again. GOD Bless. JESUS loves you, and so do I :)
2 and 5 percent? YOU buggin'! The study's revealed it was more than 10 percent in the 40's (read Kinsey),.. and those were JUST the ones who admitted it! If you include all those who lied about it and maybe had 1 or 2 or merely INCIDENTAL gay exp. you're talking about way more than 50%.. my best friend has a saying I think explains it quite simply: Everyone is gay. 'nuff said. No this doesn't mean EVERY body is gay, but nearly everyone has had an "experience".. unless u a total nerd..
Stigma, a negative social label that identifies people as deviant, also puts too many African American communities at a high risk of infection. Any behavior deemed deviant (i.e. homosexuals) has been highly stigmatized. Many at risk for HIV infection fear stigma more than knowing their status, choosing instead to hide their high-risk behavior rather than seek counseling and testing. Therefore they continue to be at risk and may infect others.
That fat ass nigga has no reason being gay......defaming women like that.......He blaming women for not coming out and being honest....I can't stand homos like that......If your gay be gay.....but don't put the blame on other people......"He said he wants to have kids.......puhleeeeeez.....that damn bitch is fat as fuck" He needs to lose weight!!!
The fat guy was simply bringing up a senario which is typically true with black females. Coming out in the black community is pretty hard. Cause black women are known for gossip and loving drama. Don't get me wrong not all black women are like that, but the vast majority do display this type of behavior. And fat jokes are a little elementary don't you think?
You sound like a fool and one of those down low brothers. There are so many things wrong w/ your statement I have no idea where to start.
First, the media doesn't have to distort the truth the statistics speak for themselves. Black women are dying at alarming numbers because of men who are not upfront about their double dipping.
You last comment is just stupid, some of the women who contracted HIV got it from their downlow husbands, who is wearing a condom when having sex w/ their husband?
Statistics of this matter mean nothing, HIV can be contracted other ways besides down low behavior. DL men are not to blame, blame the retarded religious backgroud black people were born into. This stupid mindset of thinking homosexuality is a demon spirit makes people hide who they truely are because lets face it. Humans do everything according to the popular opinion. So if being gay is taboo in the African American community. Don't expect men to be open about who they really are.
How about this, pick a point and stick to it. What does religion have to do with HIV? A man contracting HIV by another man and then giving the disease to a woman, who is unaware of his homosexual activity (which is the how he contracted HIV) is the point! Not religion, regardless whether a man is open about his sexual preference or not has nothing to do with HIV, but a woman should have the choice whether or not to be with a man who's sexual activity puts her at risk.
If a DL man wants to stay on the DL, then he can stay on the DL - but he should be on the DL with other men. African American women are contracting HIV at an alarming number because of these DL men. Wives and women in so called "monogamous" relationships are dealing with men who they are unaware are partaking in risky activity. I'd rather a man tell me that he was on the DL and putting me at risk for HIV then to lie to me, that's the issue! The rest of your argument is null and void!
-If a DL man wants to stay on the DL, then he can stay on the DL - but he should be on the DL with other men-
Do you even get the point of down low? The point is to remain hidden, so if they remain dl with other men people will eventually ask questions. What you meant to say is that the black community needs to be more open and understanding instead of ignorant and bible squeezing. By doing that DL men will reveal themselves as homosexuals, and their will be no need for the down low.
-African American women are contracting HIV at an alarming number because of these DL men.-
Ok what about African American men? What about every other person who is HIV+? What about IV drug use? What about promiscuity? Blaming it on DL men is not going to simply get rid of the disease, you have to look at this from a broad spectrum. Not just from turning on the Oprah show, or reading a book on DL men.
I'm stating facts, which is clearly something new for you; since you have been unable to list one statistic.
If DL men, let their partners know they were having sex with men the cases of HIV/AIDS would decline. The issues is about DL men, because thats the topic of the show. When the show is about hookers/and hos w/ HIV then we can talk about them.
You clearly are a gay man, because you are defending this to the hill.
Never talked about hookers or ho's, And your statistics mean nothing due to the fact that their is so many other factors in contracting AIDS/HIV virus.
And there you go trying to define my personal life because of you hatred for gays.
I agree with the facts you're stating its just that you view this from a narrow point of view. AIDS and STD's can be contracted by all genders all sexual orientations from all people. Its not a specific black issue as well. There are white women who have to deal with their DL men as well vice versa.
The point I'm trying to convey to you, which you seem to ignore is: DONT EXPECT ANYONE TO COME OUT IF ITS STILL STIGMATIZED.
And the point you are still missing is: IF YOU ARE GAY BE GAY, DONT GO AROUND HAVING UNPROTECTED SEX WITH WOMEN WHO YOU ARE IN A COMMITTED RELATIONSHIP WITH EXPOSING HER TO STD/HIV.
There are a myriad of ways you can get HIV/AIDS, yes, but the issue is gay men who are having unprotected sex w/ me and then having unprotected sex w/ wives and girlfriends.
There is no need for anyone to come out of the closet, but be responsible!
Fingers are being pointed everywhere, you assume that fingers are only being pointed to the DL men!
I don't care what a man does or does not do, his owes me no explanation but he should be upfront and honest w/ his partner - that is the issues! No matter how much you try to explain it away, DL men and their hazardous activities are the reason for such high rates of HIV/AIDS in the black community, not the only but the most!
I don't have to learn something besides Oprah and The View, I deal with women who have these type of situation everyday. Quite, possibly you might want to look up the meaning of promiscuity, because men having sex with men and then having sex w/ their wives falls under that category.
Being a gay male and not being honest with your partner is wrong no matter how much you try to justify it. These men are selfish! This "stigma" excuse is getting old, the gay movement is strong. Come out the closet
-Quite, possibly you might want to look up the meaning of promiscuity, because men having sex with men and then having sex w/ their wives falls under that category.-
Do you listen to anything I said, Promiscuity is the full picture, not just DL men. This is what you should be advocating against. All promiscuity, from DL men to the exculsive slut across the street. All unsafe sex is open to infection of all sorts rather it be straight, bi, gay, or trans sex.
Never did I once try to justify cheating individuals. Any deception rather it be from a gay, lesbian, straight, bi, or trans person is WRONG. No one wants to be lied to. And no one wants a promiscuous partner! The gay movement is not strong in the black community
No woman, especially a black woman, is going to tolerate a bisexual man. He has to stay in the closet. She would lose respect for him as a man. And if an argument should arise later after he "came iut to her," she would use that as a weapon against him. I'd never tell my girlfriend/wife that I'd experimented with bisexuality no matter how much she claims to love me.
@Berlitz777 : Why blame a Black woman for a Black man remaining on the down-low? She had nothing to do with his decision to sleep with men. If a man wants to sleep with men, then he should stay with men, not risk the health of a innocent woman. I am not at all surprised that black women are blamed for this down-low phenomenon. We are blamed for everything else. Your comment is another display of the lack of responsibility Black men have for their actions.
If Black men are having sex with other men, why not hold men responsible for this behavior? It is men dealing with men. Since men are the leaders of the family, and the community then they should shoulder the responsibilities of their actions. Blaming women for men having sex with men just shows you are a child, not an adult. Adults are held responsible for their actions, and adults are only held responsible for the actions of a child.
@Berlitz777 This is one of the reasons why the DL is so prevalent. If black women--and women in general were more accepting than it might not be such an issue
@Berlitz777 I lose respect for a man when that man is not honest with himself. But too many want their cake and it it too. So if you are homosexual or bisexual, let me know. Then I can chose for myself whether or not I want to be involved with someone who sleeps with both sexes. And me personally, I don't. And I believe that is more of the reason for the DL than not wanting to come out of the "closet". Plus, more often than not, you already "suspect".
-but the issue is gay men who are having unprotected sex w/ men and then having unprotected sex w/ wives and girlfriends.
This is not the issue! The REAL ISSUE is. men AND WOMEN who have high risk promiscuous sex activity. Those are the people you explain that their behavior is destroying humanity. If a man/woman is DL and having safe sex 99.9% of the time then he is not contributing to the statistic that you are trying to convey. GET IT?.Focus on the real problem. PROMISCUITY.
please do not take my comment above as me being another "zealot" that attributes HIV to gay men, because i believe that idea to be VERY false. i think that HIV has a specific origin, but not necessarily homosexuals
it is a spirit!!!! homosexuality is a lifestyle and a choice, but it begins with the spirit. God made man and woman, therefore it is unnatural for man to be with man or woman to be with woman.
This is what the media wants you to believe and they suceeded. Keep being scared of black men. If it wasn't for black men we wouldent even have this convo.
You never see the white community point blame. Only black people have to blame someone for their faults.
AIDS/HIV is contracted through unsafe sex.(NOT DOWN LOW BROS) If you are putting yourself at risk then why should we feel sorry for you or anyone for that matter.
If you went to a Catholic Church for 18 years i can beleive he didn't talk to you because the Catholic Church is the house of Satan. You better do your homework before you speak on such matters.
revemupman: For those of us who have asked this question about the validity of GOD long ago and have now had a personal experience with GOD in our lives, we know for a fact he is real. I think you would be wise to control your mouth and use some wisdom and ask GOD to prove himself to you. GOD has done some super natural things for me that no human could have done and this is how i know he is real. The BIBLE is just a guide, but try GOD one on one and see for yourself why i am so sure he's real.
you are sadly mistaken. you feel this way bcuz you have been mislead by catholicism! God speaks to us in so many ways its just a matter of whether you are listening or not...not HEARING, but LISTENING. true relationship with God is not about memorizing mass. how is memorizing something showing God that you love him and trust in Him wholeheartedly??? how is that giving Him praise???
the bible was man made, if god doesn't like people being gay why did he even bother making the curious human beings that we are. People bark up and down about homos, im not gay but i have nothing against gay people male or female.
who said god made you gay, rapist, serial killer, etc its free will people act upon their own will and they will be judged for it by the one and only god.
That true, I dislike people trying to make like GOD made people gay and so he can not dislike them when the true is that people follow their own lust .
How can you compare a sexual preference to a murderer and a rapist. Someone who takes their sexual pleasure instead of consent? Yes we have free will but we as humans set laws so we won't go around acting like animals. Not some 6000 yr old sky God that some primitive men imagined.
I dont want to argue with a athiest or argue on the subject of homosexuality, i believe in god and i have had this discussion far to many times. their gay? ok so are many acters, actresses, rappers, singers, ceos, models, politicians etc (on dl mostly), if you are gay so be it but, i say it is a sin thats my belief and no1 can take that away from me...like miss cali 09, that is my freedom of beliefs.
I respect your beliefs but if you think homosexuality is sin then its sin for you. But why would you compare it to a mass murderer? Or a rapist? Homo's don't hurt anyone unless the person consents to being hurt. So please stop the hate on a particular group of people. We have seen the same hate in history. Why repeat it?
Who said i hated em, i just said it is a sin and anyone who commits the act is a sinner just as anyother sin like murderer, or rapist. god sais dont steal someones life away only god has that right, god says dont commit acts with same sex because i give you women. etc thats my religion..Islam, christianity says the same thing. you cant chane that.
mobheataent the bible does not say that homosexuality is a sin. God sets it apart from the rest and says that it is an abomination, meaning it is disgusting and repulsive to Him. because it is unnatural. Homosexuality is a perversion of the mind, body, and spirit. i know you prob. knew most of this, just wanted to point out the difference. God bless and please keep spreading the word of God, because if those who believe in Him don't, who will???
Yes they do. Homosexuals historically have had the highest rate of murder / rape / suicide / disease transfer than any other group of individual. Anyways most homosexuals are raped into the lifestyle.
@INTENSEGREEK yea and im like who wants to repent and if no one knows your gay then no one will keep telling you your going to hell.... i think thats why a lot of men go on the DL and because they dont want o break their moms heart, "im lucky i was born ST8"
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Equality4ya 2 months ago
Sorry, but yes, gay/same-sex/ homosexual behavior is sin....Jesus loves humanity and therefore preached and advocated the Law and Torah of God. He never taught that it is good for anyone to break the Law,but, rather, he forgave those he sinned and sought repentance (for example, the woman taken in adultery and the lame man). The true proof of God's love and the greatest miracle of God was the atonement & resurrection. God raised Jesus & now anyone who confesses & repents can be FREE from sin
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5Cdarkwing 6 months ago
all black men go the otherway some just keep it on the down low better then others i seen the biggest black thugs and rappers take it in the ass they say 85%of southern rappers are bi or gay and in africa they fuck one another ass down tro the white meat real talk they say 93% pureto ricans are fruity they sleep with each other brother sister cousin man on man in pureto rico is every were more gays there then any were in the world
spacemask 6 months ago
@spacemask other than the statement that "ALL BLACK MEN GO THE OTHER WAY" and that most men in Africa are fucking each other, the rest is super true especialy about the Ricans. thay are preety damm sex crazy and will screw anything if they get the green light., they also have the lowest rape rates around cause too many people are giving it away.. so if you want sex, get you a RICAN (LOL)
etrax2000 6 months ago
@etrax2000 ya my fault your right got the statistcs wrong and the african ones were based on morocans not black africans black africans would cut a dick off if you ever tryed comming near them with it they dont play that homo shit but ya ricans are crazy i was in pureto rico and never seen so much imbreeding in my life i seen cousins geting married and they say its a red neck thing but i seen more creepy ashit in P.R. that i would never fuck one of them and they fuck wit animals
spacemask 6 months ago
@spacemask
No way man. It must be who you've been seeing and hang around. All black men are not homosexual not for a second. Some are but most aren't. Historically hyper masculine men are always fags / bisexual. Gangsters are the modern day hyper masculine male so it makes sense that they're all bisexual. As far as Africans the thug ones are definitely fags.
MrShenzhenGuy 2 months ago
i used to be happy tvone was black owned but they got shit programming
just like the rest of these networks...who the fuck wants to see a show on faggots
and how the fuck did faggots get so much focus in the past 10 years? agenda
DoomCity202 6 months ago
shit is disgusting but wtf do you expect from a faggot?
the biggest problem i have with faggots is that they are like vampires
there could be 100 faggots around them but they will be attracted to the straight man.I witnessed this first hand a couple weeks ago when i drunk ass faggot asked me to dance. If i was 18 i woulda kicked him in his bitch ass chin. they love young teenagers too. coming up in dc walking home solo from gogos there was ALWAYS some faggot asking if i need a ride/head.
DoomCity202 6 months ago
At what point will bm take responsibility for their own actions and stop blaming bw. (i'm directing t his to the guy who said the bw would tell everyone about his bi-sexualty.) If he would stand up like a man and not hide the fact that he is attracted to men - then she wouldn have to tell. The point is - don't be ashame of who you are.
totaly52 6 months ago
Ok, what is down lo when you show who you are!!!! please!!!! book of Roman, enuff said!!!!!!
cnwrchll3 8 months ago
they picked some token gays on here who anyone could tell from a mile off they are gay and call them done low lol!
jrufus11 9 months ago
I have no problem with any man being gay. The problem i have is when you try to lie about it and hide it. Actually marry women to try to hide it, tears up peoples lives: particulerly their wives. Its not right and it hurts people. I say just tell people what you are from jump and your life will be alot better and you'll be free.
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GayWorldOrder 9 months ago
if your gay be with men. If you're straight you're sraight. The problem is not being gay. The problem is the deceit.
Debbydeb22 10 months ago
fat faggot.
veeseee128 10 months ago
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I hate only that they got a loud fem queen as one of the reps for the gay community even though there is a masculine gay man there this was placed here for comic relief and to be degrading and to invalid the message. horrible !
soymiguelalejandro23 1 year ago
this is why aids is spread im sorry but if you a DL men and you are dating a female she should be told she should have a choice to choose to be with you if your that way,if your gay be open about it or bi.
leelulove24 1 year ago 3
@Tayeonce That's aprt of the reason aids spread like wild fire, because NO ONe cares what others are doing behind closed doors. Do you! You just can't do me and him too. Or me and her for that matter. But I don't want a man that likes men. So be honest. Not everyone is going to use your sexuality against. Some of really don't care. But if you're trying to get at me, I have a right to know. So I can have a choice too.
thechickable 1 year ago
Why does the doctor keep on insisting "bisexuality"? They're GAY in the closet and the "wife" / "girlfriend" is the cover.
blognewb 1 year ago
Most hate crimes against gays are committed by white men. Also, if a white teenager comes out of the closet, his family is more likely to disown him than a black family would.
ShamelessNation 1 year ago
@ShamelessNation Absolutely!. People need to search out the truth for themselves,and stop regurgitating the garbage that they are being fed.
thechickable 1 year ago
@ShamelessNation
Because they represent the majority of the population. Of these white men committing these crimes against gay men you'll find that most of these men are bisexual men killing overtly gay guys.
MrShenzhenGuy 2 months ago
Being homosexual is nasty and unnatural. A woman looks better, smells better and I'm pretty sure she feels better. It ain't about masculinity because the hardest dudes in the pen are faggots. Homosexuality is just nasty, I don't even like fucking women in the ass, I do it per request
Alara0625 1 year ago
@Alara0625 If you don't even like doing it to a woman, then why? Because she asked? That sounds crazy to me. And in my opinion, since asses in both sexes serve the same purpose, if you stick ya dick in one what's to stop you from sticking ya dick in another. Anal sex is filthy! Period!!! But to each his own. It's just my opinion
thechickable 1 year ago
@thechickable
I hear you and I agree. Alot of girls like that crazy shit unfortunately. They want you to cum in ya ass and all that.
Alara0625 1 year ago
@thechickable
Pardon my typing what I meant to say is they want men to cum in their ass. Me personally I love pleasing women, it's the ultimate fun. So I guess that's why I do it.
Alara0625 1 year ago
I think the black community has such a issue with homosexuality because we know it is wrong!! Our men know its wrong!!
aferg76 1 year ago
@aferg76
We damn sure know it's wrong
Alara0625 1 year ago
@aferg76
Most do know it's wrong and are straight but most of these same men support it by being tolerant of it and not speaking out against it.
MrShenzhenGuy 2 months ago
I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR A DOWN LOW MAN!! I have been though it, with my ex-husband. He turn me to be a basket case at that time. I was scared to even date again not kmowing what to expect. When guys ask me why I left my husband and I say he was a bisexual. Then I say what I would do to him if it happen again,I don't here when then again. NOW WHAT THAT TELLS YOU HA!!! So ladies don't talk to me if your man is cheating on you with a woman, come to me when it's about another man. CAN YOU DIG IT!!!
gmvigne72 1 year ago
@gmvigne72 daaamn lil mama dats fucked up
RottenPeachState706 1 year ago
@gmvigne72....unfortunately I have had the same experience I dated a black man who was very macsuline....I knew he was cheating, you can feel when someone is not being honest. He would laugh at me and say he didn't have another girl friend. After many years of dating he asked me if I could be in a relationship with a bi-sexual man...I walked away from that relationship and never regretted leaving. I am a black woman who is now afraid to date a black man...it's been 2 years
charnv48 1 year ago
@charnv48 Don't be afraid, just be careful. It's not just Black men who are on the DL. It's people in general. People of all races, colors, cultures. So don't let the devil make you believe it's just Black men. You'll mess around and run right to the thing you think your running from. Ask questions. And better yet, if your not married, wait on the LORD. Good, hnest, hrd-working, educated Black men who love them some Black women are still out.
thechickable 1 year ago
@thechickable
that's some good advice. - thank you for telling the truth
MrShenzhenGuy 2 months ago
@thechickable
You got that right. Goes both ways though. It's really bad for us straight men who want straight women because lesbianism seems like a fad amongst a lot of women these days and a lot of women are going that way or if not they support it and see nothing wrong with it. I know what charm48 is thinking because i have to fight myself from thinking if all women are lesbian or will become lesbian because it's so promoted and unpredictable.
MrShenzhenGuy 2 months ago
Just like a weak faggoty bitch. Blame it on the woman! Take responsibiltiy for your behaviior dammit.
letmetalk2u 1 year ago
Black men can't deal with being gay because they have such fragile egos--low self esteem and tremendous arrogance combines for a lethal combination. Black men want all the trappings and privileges of being a man in society, the authority and respect but they want none of the responsibility--partly because they can't fulfill the role. They don't get the education so they don't get the jobs and employment discrimination is rampant. Black men have to fix themselves. Black women have to move on.
vcvenus 1 year ago
@vcvenus
That's bull. You're just a hurt woman. Black women love black men regardless of your bitter experiences. Whether you like it or not we're in this together for better and worse. We can't separate from one another.
MrShenzhenGuy 2 months ago
first of all! Im black and if I was white green or yellow why da hell would I want to man who likes men? thats a turn off! duh!!! not to mention its nasty and unnatural Im not goin to except what im against
lenabina86 1 year ago
And i wish some people would stop putting the comments about blaming black women, how is it our fault? Like my mom always said, if you are ashamed of something, then you shouldn't do it. That means you know deep down in your heart IT IS WRONG. If a man is going to be gay, he's needs to be honest and not get involved with women. They're just bringing HIV more to our black communities and raising the statistics of cases among black people period. Take responsibility for YOUR actions.
MzLimeLight 1 year ago
@MzLimeLight
Same goes for the huge number of black women who are bisexual but won't admit it.
MrShenzhenGuy 2 months ago
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MzLimeLight 1 year ago
I think this is a really good discussion about homosexuality in the black community.
JordanjamesX 1 year ago
The issue is not black men engaging in homosexual activity with one another. The issue is empowerment and choice. Their lack of honesty by not informing their female partners that they enjoy sex with me also is the issue. Their dishonesty in their sexual practices are "deadly" to black women. If you like having sex with men, just leave us the hell alone.
Monty4117 1 year ago 11
@Monty4117 thatz tha truth
yADigProductions26 1 year ago
@Monty4117 I could understand the honesty issue, but let that go across the bored. Allow that honesty to transcend to telling you that he is cheating on you with a woman, using drugs, picking up prostitutes. Don't just limit that honesty to him having sex with men. What's deadly is a woman having "UNPROTECTED" sex with a man that she trusts. Her body is HER responsibility. I would NEVER put that responsibility on a man.
2710Pocahontas 8 months ago
@Monty4117
That's the problem. You're still condoning their actions and giving them the ok to be gay. With homosexuals there isn't any grey. You know the saying "if you give the devil an inch he'll take a mile" well that's what you're doing right now. Because all you're doing is passing him on the next black woman because you're not dealing with the problem which is he's homo
MrShenzhenGuy 2 months ago
It's sad that some black men would rather hide behide a black women, than to be honest with himself and with her. Black women have ENOUGH problems to comtend with without being some SICK man-boy's security blanket. If you are that low down that you have to lie and deceive someone who loves you than you need to be RIDICULED and SHAMED!
Oc4ever12 1 year ago 2
@Oc4ever12 so i'm guessing thats the reason why these guys cheat? i dunno but all together the hiding part is the sick sh*t
yADigProductions26 1 year ago
@Oc4ever12
The same goes for the black women on the DL or blatant lesbians that swear they're straight. It makes it seem like there's no more straight black women in this country anymore.
MrShenzhenGuy 2 months ago
God made Adam and Eve NOT ADAM AND STEVE MINISTER MY ASS
hustla601 1 year ago
"I'm sure a little GAY seeps outta all ya'll" ahahaha
askar4kill 1 year ago
This is pure ignorance......these straight men are so friggin ignorant
BK227 1 year ago
Have can you ass's smell another man's SHIT? your sick in your head no shit.
runawaychild66 1 year ago
i think being gay is bullshit just like they say about girls that being lesbian is fake if all thy have to do is lay on their backs and take it in. "now and days boys can take pills to get peter up and running right b4 they are about to do it"
scotty10211 1 year ago
@scotty10211 I'm not gay dude. Hell no, I love females. I am tired of bisexual females and gay men.
Malfunction0982 1 year ago
@Malfunction0982 So what are you gonna do about 'em...punk? lol
Darkbison7 1 year ago
Black men are the most fearful of homosexuality because it is drilled into them
sence childhood being gay is the worst thing in the world. But actually more black men are on the down low directly because of this! they dont find female satisfying like another man so they sneak around getting sex with other men.Gay doesnt mean unmasculine? some of the most masculine men are GAY.
globehunter2 1 year ago 4
@globehunter2 no your right about black men being on the DL the most but @ the same time your wrong, we are like that because as a child "black child" we have to go to church "every dam Sunday" and in church they teach us that if your gay u go to hell. and we go to church because every scene the slave trade blacks needed some type of hope and god is always open to all, and people still Carrie on their traditions go to church every Sunday,,, so it comes from there.
scotty10211 1 year ago
@scotty10211 Your right on that point! the black church has said that being gay is Wrong` and God hates gays and doesnt want anyone to help or be friends with gays..etc. But black people have been inslaved and hated also? just for being black.
So they should understand prejudise more simply by being victims of it them selves.
globehunter2 1 year ago
@globehunter2 yea your also right :)
scotty10211 1 year ago
@globehunter2
Kids are instinctively repulsed by homosexuality and know it's wrong. That's why most kids who are molested still turn out straight while growing up to adulthood.
MrShenzhenGuy 2 months ago
@MrShenzhenGuy Most child molestors are straight men not gay. just like dead beat dads and wife beaters are straight men. Kids who may be repulsed by homosexuality? is primarily due to homophobec parents teaching them to be. Kids are the most opened minded beings on earth, its adults who carry judgmental
prejudise in general. Just like ancient Greece and Rome for example where homosexuality was accepted
as a right of passage for young males into manhood. Homosexuality is natural.
globehunter2 2 months ago
@globehunter2
1. Not true. Most children who are molested are boys not girls. Primarily those who molest boys are men and other boys. Which makes the molester homosexual by default.
2. Not true. Statistically women and men beat one another on about equal rates. But if you compare the rate of homosexual domestic abuse it's much higher than heterosexual abuse.
3. Kids are impressionable and easily manipulated this is why you target them for rape.
4. Those empires were destroyed
MrShenzhenGuy 2 months ago
@MrShenzhenGuy I agree` thats straight men who claim they like females but really prefer boys` because boys have more body parts to enjoy. The female body is less enjoyable always have been. Straight domestic abuse is higher` because straight people out number gays in world population.Rape and rapist are mostly straight men! this is a fact, also serial killers and pedophiles are straight men..etc. Rome and Greece were destroyed for various reasons not homosexuality.
globehunter2 2 months ago
they are foolish this is full of shit
downlowguy1 1 year ago
And when they get HIV, they expect sistahs to be there and take care of them, but it is our fault they cannot come out. F them. Esp. that fat one who wants kids. They want it all, but don't want to own it all. And as for the MD, yeah idiot, you have to talk about HIV and condoms since black bi/gay men are catching that shit like flies.
Izrwatching 1 year ago
This is excuse, If you know shakkete or shameka is going to but you on blast get with Betty so she can hold you hand and say let work it out so yall both can up hold yall image for whom ever that doesnt really exist.
naturallymi 1 year ago
All I got to say is don't get in bed with your wife or whatever then go get fucked by a man. You queer ass motherfuckers poisoning the pussy.
shannwil 1 year ago
i think the number 2-5% is way to low
1911beauty 1 year ago
it's very taboo in the african american community about being bisexual or gay, hell even what you wear on your body you get critizied. the Black community can be plain ignorant all the time, no matter if you are perfect or not.
Scene68 1 year ago
@Scene68 No one is perfect, but you're right though...there's a lot of criticism in the African American community. Personally, I could care less if a black man is gay. My only problem would be for him to come to me, acting like he's interested and wanting to be with me, develop a relationship with me then behind it all, getting fucked by another man. A black man can be gay if he wants to...just be honest about the shit.
Witchy1976 1 year ago
@Witchy1976 i feel the same way, black men gay dont bother me, as long as he dont come on no hatin or competing type sh*tt i dont care but if he lie to me, that's the issue in terms of getting into relation and yes i would never date a man who been with a man or like men or whatever and i can tell if so
yADigProductions26 1 year ago
A bunch of fuckin faggots, and fuck the bible too.
beeno87 1 year ago
and um oh yes pray for everyone in the gay community the more you do the better thanks for em
TheDestiny708 1 year ago
being gay is not a problem but hating yourself is ,you can not stop having the sexual desires that come with who you are and sexual orientation but you can choose to stop having sex or have sex with someone of the opposite sex but to get turned on you would need the thought of someone of your own gender still sining if being gay is a sin which it is not besides what the bible says the bible says alot of things that does not make it true
TheDestiny708 1 year ago
Maywood!
chiladin 1 year ago
Chile, that doctor is phyne!!!! He will surely make someone a GREAT husband!
slimsxyblkwoman 2 years ago
Truth of the matter is everything he said about whites and blacks views on homosexuality is true. I went out to eat with some friends at TGIF not to long ago and all the black ppl were snarling and making comments but the whites looked and kept eating their food. It wasnt a big deal with them. Until black ppl open their minds to difference then we will have forever have DOWN LOW MEN
mydreamz8809 2 years ago 5
funny, whites say the exact reverse lol.
TheEvilOyo 2 years ago
@mydreamz8809 Shut up. Down low men is not the fault of black people's views on homosexuality. There are plenty of white people that are totally against homosexuality. Gay black men need to take responsibility for their actions and not make excuses for being on the down low.
princess11222 5 months ago
Why do Black Folks think they are the only ones on the planet who deal with this phenomenon? The closet has existed as long a sexuality has existed, in every culture throughout history. Just cuz you callin the Closet the DL doesnt mean its new or exclusively Black. These men need to speak more to others who have been through this they would learn a lot more. WTF?
StanleyT123 2 years ago
2. The closet only exists because of the bigotry and homophobia that thrives in straight institutions like the Family, The Church and Our Schools. The only problem with homosexual orientation is all the terrible ignorance that surrounds it.
StanleyT123 2 years ago
As a straight black male I find the whole man on man thing less appealing then anything else I can imagine, these men are weak and sad , they do this because they want too , I have served in the military been in the field and at sea and at no time did another man ever seem appealing to me , be true to thy ownself, To thy ownself be true, those words are out of the question to the DL Blackmale, I live by no women no sex End of story.
kwolf43 2 years ago
Do you really think people choose who they are attracted to? Do you think that anyone would choose a life of persecution, discrimination and alienation? The problem with us is that we need to take our egos and what feels natural to us, and consider the shoes that others must feel. Just because you are not attracted to men, doesn't make you no "weaker" or stronger than any gay man or visa versa. People need to just learn to focus on their own issues; we wouldnt have time to judge others.
slimsxyblkwoman 2 years ago 2
People do choose, if a guy is bi he can turn straight period. He won't like guys at all, that's molarky. Some people are weak! They grow to accept it. Those feelings are nasty if you were straight most of your life. So that's bullshit.
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slimsxyblkwoman 1 year ago
@Malfunction0982 yea if your gay and you dont want to be the most i can tell you is that you should make your own little world in your head where you have a BF and over and over he keep hurting you. i think you will get over it and think i dont want a man anymore if he keeps hurting me LOL
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LorrainenThe 2 years ago
I'm black & i'm gay but i'm manly & not act like a girl. I can't help what I like.
godishere7 2 years ago 3
I'm going to pray for you.
Because God can help you with your problem.
RespectMyHate 2 years ago
yes please pray for me.
Because I don't wanna be gay no more. I want to make it to heaven and not hell.
godishere7 2 years ago 2
I sure will my brother or sister.
RespectMyHate 1 year ago
you really belive you are going to hell for being gay yes its in the bible but haveing sex before marriage have kids without being married e.t.c in that case everybody going to hell everybody has a sin they are born with so if you live you life good and belive in god your not going to hell.and a matter a fact i read the bible iam not gay but being gay is really not big thing they where talking about in the bible it was having kids without being married and having sex before marriage
brianb3000 1 year ago
@brianb3000 Being gay is not a big thing in the bible? Are you serious, In the bible it says that same sex partners is an abomination before God. What book did you read?
lomos72 1 year ago
@godishere7 Say What???
MONEYAINTATHANG100 1 year ago
@godishere7 i am replying to your comment about not wanting to be gay anymore because you want to make it to heaven. Question - So while you were practicing homosexuality how did it make you feel? Did you know it was wrong and ignored it or did you think you were born with it?
aferg76 1 year ago
@aferg76 I've been like this ever since I was 7 and now I'm 19. I really can't help my feelings towards males. But if it's wrong and would lead you to hell then I'd rather not be like this and not go to hell.
godishere7 1 year ago
@godishere7 That's right, baby. What people fail to realize is it's not the person that is judged it is the lifestyle or the sin. And if I die in sin, whether it is lying, stealing, or whatever, then I am just as likely to be punished for eturnity, as well. Stay srong, you can make it. And if you stumble and fall GOD is always ready to help you up again. GOD Bless. JESUS loves you, and so do I :)
thechickable 1 year ago
@godishere7 nothing wrong with that.. but i i find a problem is if you date women, and lie to them.
champagnealex 1 year ago
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black men will do anything that white men do just because. White guys turn homo so do black men. It's sickening.
2Baiforev 2 years ago
between 2 and 5 percent of men are gay in all cultures and all races. nobody is turning anything, it's always been there.
beingforitse1f 2 years ago 3
2 and 5 percent? YOU buggin'! The study's revealed it was more than 10 percent in the 40's (read Kinsey),.. and those were JUST the ones who admitted it! If you include all those who lied about it and maybe had 1 or 2 or merely INCIDENTAL gay exp. you're talking about way more than 50%.. my best friend has a saying I think explains it quite simply: Everyone is gay. 'nuff said. No this doesn't mean EVERY body is gay, but nearly everyone has had an "experience".. unless u a total nerd..
CrisVangel 2 years ago
Good point, but i think the percent is much higher. Maybe like 15 percent.
ElCierto 2 years ago
?????
CrisVangel 2 years ago
There is a way that seems right to a men.
sbyers03 2 years ago
Stigma, a negative social label that identifies people as deviant, also puts too many African American communities at a high risk of infection. Any behavior deemed deviant (i.e. homosexuals) has been highly stigmatized. Many at risk for HIV infection fear stigma more than knowing their status, choosing instead to hide their high-risk behavior rather than seek counseling and testing. Therefore they continue to be at risk and may infect others.
revemupman 2 years ago
very interesting video
MicrowaveWalrus 2 years ago
That fat ass nigga has no reason being gay......defaming women like that.......He blaming women for not coming out and being honest....I can't stand homos like that......If your gay be gay.....but don't put the blame on other people......"He said he wants to have kids.......puhleeeeeez.....that damn bitch is fat as fuck" He needs to lose weight!!!
miracalz 2 years ago
The fat guy was simply bringing up a senario which is typically true with black females. Coming out in the black community is pretty hard. Cause black women are known for gossip and loving drama. Don't get me wrong not all black women are like that, but the vast majority do display this type of behavior. And fat jokes are a little elementary don't you think?
revemupman 2 years ago
You sound like a fool and one of those down low brothers. There are so many things wrong w/ your statement I have no idea where to start.
First, the media doesn't have to distort the truth the statistics speak for themselves. Black women are dying at alarming numbers because of men who are not upfront about their double dipping.
You last comment is just stupid, some of the women who contracted HIV got it from their downlow husbands, who is wearing a condom when having sex w/ their husband?
Martinalutherking 2 years ago
Statistics of this matter mean nothing, HIV can be contracted other ways besides down low behavior. DL men are not to blame, blame the retarded religious backgroud black people were born into. This stupid mindset of thinking homosexuality is a demon spirit makes people hide who they truely are because lets face it. Humans do everything according to the popular opinion. So if being gay is taboo in the African American community. Don't expect men to be open about who they really are.
revemupman 2 years ago
How about this, pick a point and stick to it. What does religion have to do with HIV? A man contracting HIV by another man and then giving the disease to a woman, who is unaware of his homosexual activity (which is the how he contracted HIV) is the point! Not religion, regardless whether a man is open about his sexual preference or not has nothing to do with HIV, but a woman should have the choice whether or not to be with a man who's sexual activity puts her at risk.
Martinalutherking 2 years ago
I never said religion has anything to do with HIV, although alot of religious zealots have said that HiV-AIDS is divine retribution against gays.
All I'm saying is don't expect someone to be who they are when the vast majority believe its a demon.
revemupman 2 years ago
If a DL man wants to stay on the DL, then he can stay on the DL - but he should be on the DL with other men. African American women are contracting HIV at an alarming number because of these DL men. Wives and women in so called "monogamous" relationships are dealing with men who they are unaware are partaking in risky activity. I'd rather a man tell me that he was on the DL and putting me at risk for HIV then to lie to me, that's the issue! The rest of your argument is null and void!
Martinalutherking 2 years ago
-If a DL man wants to stay on the DL, then he can stay on the DL - but he should be on the DL with other men-
Do you even get the point of down low? The point is to remain hidden, so if they remain dl with other men people will eventually ask questions. What you meant to say is that the black community needs to be more open and understanding instead of ignorant and bible squeezing. By doing that DL men will reveal themselves as homosexuals, and their will be no need for the down low.
revemupman 2 years ago 2
-African American women are contracting HIV at an alarming number because of these DL men.-
Ok what about African American men? What about every other person who is HIV+? What about IV drug use? What about promiscuity? Blaming it on DL men is not going to simply get rid of the disease, you have to look at this from a broad spectrum. Not just from turning on the Oprah show, or reading a book on DL men.
revemupman 2 years ago 3
You do understand your husband can contract AIDS-HIV through a cheap hooker he paid for, or the lady who's been giving his googly eyes at work.
Your pointing blame cause your mad. And when a womens mad, someone has to be blamed lmao.
revemupman 2 years ago 2
I'm stating facts, which is clearly something new for you; since you have been unable to list one statistic.
If DL men, let their partners know they were having sex with men the cases of HIV/AIDS would decline. The issues is about DL men, because thats the topic of the show. When the show is about hookers/and hos w/ HIV then we can talk about them.
You clearly are a gay man, because you are defending this to the hill.
Martinalutherking 2 years ago
Never talked about hookers or ho's, And your statistics mean nothing due to the fact that their is so many other factors in contracting AIDS/HIV virus.
And there you go trying to define my personal life because of you hatred for gays.
revemupman 2 years ago
When someone says to me they don't care about statistics and facts, i'm done!
Martinalutherking 2 years ago
I agree with the facts you're stating its just that you view this from a narrow point of view. AIDS and STD's can be contracted by all genders all sexual orientations from all people. Its not a specific black issue as well. There are white women who have to deal with their DL men as well vice versa.
The point I'm trying to convey to you, which you seem to ignore is: DONT EXPECT ANYONE TO COME OUT IF ITS STILL STIGMATIZED.
revemupman 2 years ago
And the point you are still missing is: IF YOU ARE GAY BE GAY, DONT GO AROUND HAVING UNPROTECTED SEX WITH WOMEN WHO YOU ARE IN A COMMITTED RELATIONSHIP WITH EXPOSING HER TO STD/HIV.
There are a myriad of ways you can get HIV/AIDS, yes, but the issue is gay men who are having unprotected sex w/ me and then having unprotected sex w/ wives and girlfriends.
There is no need for anyone to come out of the closet, but be responsible!
Martinalutherking 2 years ago
Well the topic wasn't really about DL men who have unprotected sex, the topic was about the down low men period and why their is a need for it.
My whole point is that people need to be responsible, if you're going to point fingers. Point at everyone.
revemupman 2 years ago
Fingers are being pointed everywhere, you assume that fingers are only being pointed to the DL men!
I don't care what a man does or does not do, his owes me no explanation but he should be upfront and honest w/ his partner - that is the issues! No matter how much you try to explain it away, DL men and their hazardous activities are the reason for such high rates of HIV/AIDS in the black community, not the only but the most!
Martinalutherking 2 years ago
-his owes me no explanation but he should be upfront and honest w/ his partner -
So isn't it the same way around for a woman? Or do they get special privilages due to the gash between their legs?
- DL men and their hazardous activities are the reason for such high rates of HIV/AIDS in the black community, not the only but the most! -
LMAO. DL activity is NOT the reason of such high rates its PROMISCUITY. Learn something besides Oprah and The View.
revemupman 2 years ago
I don't have to learn something besides Oprah and The View, I deal with women who have these type of situation everyday. Quite, possibly you might want to look up the meaning of promiscuity, because men having sex with men and then having sex w/ their wives falls under that category.
Being a gay male and not being honest with your partner is wrong no matter how much you try to justify it. These men are selfish! This "stigma" excuse is getting old, the gay movement is strong. Come out the closet
Martinalutherking 2 years ago
-Quite, possibly you might want to look up the meaning of promiscuity, because men having sex with men and then having sex w/ their wives falls under that category.-
Do you listen to anything I said, Promiscuity is the full picture, not just DL men. This is what you should be advocating against. All promiscuity, from DL men to the exculsive slut across the street. All unsafe sex is open to infection of all sorts rather it be straight, bi, gay, or trans sex.
revemupman 2 years ago
Never did I once try to justify cheating individuals. Any deception rather it be from a gay, lesbian, straight, bi, or trans person is WRONG. No one wants to be lied to. And no one wants a promiscuous partner! The gay movement is not strong in the black community
revemupman 2 years ago 2
No woman, especially a black woman, is going to tolerate a bisexual man. He has to stay in the closet. She would lose respect for him as a man. And if an argument should arise later after he "came iut to her," she would use that as a weapon against him. I'd never tell my girlfriend/wife that I'd experimented with bisexuality no matter how much she claims to love me.
Berlitz777 2 years ago 11
@Berlitz777 : Why blame a Black woman for a Black man remaining on the down-low? She had nothing to do with his decision to sleep with men. If a man wants to sleep with men, then he should stay with men, not risk the health of a innocent woman. I am not at all surprised that black women are blamed for this down-low phenomenon. We are blamed for everything else. Your comment is another display of the lack of responsibility Black men have for their actions.
shrisahetep1 1 year ago
@Berlitz777 :
If Black men are having sex with other men, why not hold men responsible for this behavior? It is men dealing with men. Since men are the leaders of the family, and the community then they should shoulder the responsibilities of their actions. Blaming women for men having sex with men just shows you are a child, not an adult. Adults are held responsible for their actions, and adults are only held responsible for the actions of a child.
shrisahetep1 1 year ago
@Berlitz777 : An adult man holding an adult women responsible for his actions - is not a man at all.
shrisahetep1 1 year ago
@Berlitz777 , thats a lie.
deadly32 1 year ago
@Berlitz777 This is one of the reasons why the DL is so prevalent. If black women--and women in general were more accepting than it might not be such an issue
vidhead85 1 year ago
@Berlitz777 I lose respect for a man when that man is not honest with himself. But too many want their cake and it it too. So if you are homosexual or bisexual, let me know. Then I can chose for myself whether or not I want to be involved with someone who sleeps with both sexes. And me personally, I don't. And I believe that is more of the reason for the DL than not wanting to come out of the "closet". Plus, more often than not, you already "suspect".
thechickable 1 year ago
@Berlitz777 YOU WOULDN'T TELL HER HUH? R U SERIOUS? LOL
trustewiefan87 9 months ago
-but the issue is gay men who are having unprotected sex w/ men and then having unprotected sex w/ wives and girlfriends.
This is not the issue! The REAL ISSUE is. men AND WOMEN who have high risk promiscuous sex activity. Those are the people you explain that their behavior is destroying humanity. If a man/woman is DL and having safe sex 99.9% of the time then he is not contributing to the statistic that you are trying to convey. GET IT?.Focus on the real problem. PROMISCUITY.
revemupman 2 years ago
please do not take my comment above as me being another "zealot" that attributes HIV to gay men, because i believe that idea to be VERY false. i think that HIV has a specific origin, but not necessarily homosexuals
laurenelise12 2 years ago
it is a spirit!!!! homosexuality is a lifestyle and a choice, but it begins with the spirit. God made man and woman, therefore it is unnatural for man to be with man or woman to be with woman.
laurenelise12 2 years ago
First, black women are trippin about black men being on gay because they are on the downlow half the time and bring AIDS back to the community!
Martinalutherking 2 years ago 2
This is what the media wants you to believe and they suceeded. Keep being scared of black men. If it wasn't for black men we wouldent even have this convo.
You never see the white community point blame. Only black people have to blame someone for their faults.
AIDS/HIV is contracted through unsafe sex.(NOT DOWN LOW BROS) If you are putting yourself at risk then why should we feel sorry for you or anyone for that matter.
revemupman 2 years ago
the fat dude is ugly i dont think he has to worry about even having sex to even get caught
nalekka 2 years ago
If you went to a Catholic Church for 18 years i can beleive he didn't talk to you because the Catholic Church is the house of Satan. You better do your homework before you speak on such matters.
WHITESLICK10 2 years ago
revemupman: For those of us who have asked this question about the validity of GOD long ago and have now had a personal experience with GOD in our lives, we know for a fact he is real. I think you would be wise to control your mouth and use some wisdom and ask GOD to prove himself to you. GOD has done some super natural things for me that no human could have done and this is how i know he is real. The BIBLE is just a guide, but try GOD one on one and see for yourself why i am so sure he's real.
WHITESLICK10 2 years ago
I went to Church for 18 years. I was raised Catholic. I had the mass memorized.
GOD NEVER ONCE TALKED TO ME.
God is not real, and his existence is not quantifiable on any scale.
acronus 2 years ago
you are sadly mistaken. you feel this way bcuz you have been mislead by catholicism! God speaks to us in so many ways its just a matter of whether you are listening or not...not HEARING, but LISTENING. true relationship with God is not about memorizing mass. how is memorizing something showing God that you love him and trust in Him wholeheartedly??? how is that giving Him praise???
laurenelise12 2 years ago
4 all you gangsta niggas get your dogs from me nigga thug 4 life
guardiandevilpresa 2 years ago
the bible was man made, if god doesn't like people being gay why did he even bother making the curious human beings that we are. People bark up and down about homos, im not gay but i have nothing against gay people male or female.
kryptoniteCTD 2 years ago 4
who said god made you gay, rapist, serial killer, etc its free will people act upon their own will and they will be judged for it by the one and only god.
MobHeataEnt 2 years ago
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kryptoniteCTD 2 years ago
That true, I dislike people trying to make like GOD made people gay and so he can not dislike them when the true is that people follow their own lust .
SaintJohn86 2 years ago
-rapist, serial killer-
How can you compare a sexual preference to a murderer and a rapist. Someone who takes their sexual pleasure instead of consent? Yes we have free will but we as humans set laws so we won't go around acting like animals. Not some 6000 yr old sky God that some primitive men imagined.
revemupman 2 years ago
I dont want to argue with a athiest or argue on the subject of homosexuality, i believe in god and i have had this discussion far to many times. their gay? ok so are many acters, actresses, rappers, singers, ceos, models, politicians etc (on dl mostly), if you are gay so be it but, i say it is a sin thats my belief and no1 can take that away from me...like miss cali 09, that is my freedom of beliefs.
MobHeataEnt 2 years ago
I respect your beliefs but if you think homosexuality is sin then its sin for you. But why would you compare it to a mass murderer? Or a rapist? Homo's don't hurt anyone unless the person consents to being hurt. So please stop the hate on a particular group of people. We have seen the same hate in history. Why repeat it?
revemupman 2 years ago
Who said i hated em, i just said it is a sin and anyone who commits the act is a sinner just as anyother sin like murderer, or rapist. god sais dont steal someones life away only god has that right, god says dont commit acts with same sex because i give you women. etc thats my religion..Islam, christianity says the same thing. you cant chane that.
MobHeataEnt 2 years ago
mobheataent the bible does not say that homosexuality is a sin. God sets it apart from the rest and says that it is an abomination, meaning it is disgusting and repulsive to Him. because it is unnatural. Homosexuality is a perversion of the mind, body, and spirit. i know you prob. knew most of this, just wanted to point out the difference. God bless and please keep spreading the word of God, because if those who believe in Him don't, who will???
laurenelise12 2 years ago
@revemupman
Yes they do. Homosexuals historically have had the highest rate of murder / rape / suicide / disease transfer than any other group of individual. Anyways most homosexuals are raped into the lifestyle.
MrShenzhenGuy 2 months ago
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@MrShenzhenGuy lol, you know nothing about anything. Just sit there and believe what you want.
revemupman 2 months ago
@kryptoniteCTD: homosexuality is un-natural and it was brainwashed into the system, by the satanic people running this planet. HOMOS REPENT!
INTENSEGREEK 1 year ago
@INTENSEGREEK yea and im like who wants to repent and if no one knows your gay then no one will keep telling you your going to hell.... i think thats why a lot of men go on the DL and because they dont want o break their moms heart, "im lucky i was born ST8"
scotty10211 1 year ago
what show is this? ive seen these guys on tv once b4 but don't know the chasnnel and title
Undergroundartist87 2 years ago