The pilot WAS experienced, it was just very snowy and maybe he couldnt see anything, so when he thought: " Hey lets go down " then he made a mistake... its not the fault he didnt know anything, he just couldnt see in the snow (My conclusion)
Hey you guys, debating over this crash will not bring Buddy Holly back. The fact is he died young just when his career was really taking off. Since nobody will ever know exactly what happened that night, why don't we just honor his memory by enjoying his great music.
I'm not going to waste any more time arguing over a tragic event which occured over 50 years ago. Go ahead, have the final say here, I don.t care. The bottom line : three musicians died because a young kid fresh from flight school over-estimated his capabilities and those of the airplane. You can think whatever you want, but I've spoken to many other pilots with decades of flight time who happen to agree the failure to maintain a proper scan was the main factor here.
I'm not hung up on the instrument scan -- this was the NTSB's conclusion, not mine. Obviously the weather was not suitable for flight, however , with light blowing snow the airport was still above VFR minimums when the plane departed. The young inexperienced pilot interpreted this as being okay. I would suggest in the future you examine the NTSB and other reports regarding a crash before jumping to conclusions. Also, ice affects ALL airplanes regardless of size. Air Florida 737, DC-8-62, etc
The NTSB report on this crash concluded that spatial disorientation by the pilot was the main factor. Icing was not listed as a significant factor in the crash. The plane had not been airborne long enough for the neccesary accumulation of ice to affect flight. The NTSB pointed to bad judgment by the pilot in attempting flight under these weather conditions. The disorientation was the result of no real time IFR experience including failure to scan the panel correctly. Buddy deserved better.
First, the weather was bad. Blowing snow. Witnesses said the wind was so hard the snow was blowing sideways. There words. It was a single engine Bonanza, flown by a young kid that only recently got his instrument lic. In those days, the instruments are nothing like they are today. They simple should not have flown that day. I have waited out those type of days and I have thousands of hours and flown for decades. Bad decision in the air or on the ground can lead to death. Sad.
my mom just loved the 50's and she loved to hear this song although her life was pretty terrible when she heard this music she would smile and dance around singing I sure do miss her I sometimes put on some 50's music and sing along I feel her here?
No excuses for this. All pilots are taught to continually scan the instrument panel ( I am one myself ). Had he done this one basic thing it wouldn't have happened. As a young student pilot I got caught on top of a thick overcast several thousand feet thick, and I descended on instruments through this with no problem whatsoever. Even with a "partial-panel" scenario where some of the gauges have failed you can still do this safely. Maybe he was distracted by something inside the plane ?
@CaptainArt777 If you know so much about this crash, why don't you tell me what happened. Do you fly airplanes ? Have you read the official NTSB report on this event ? I've researched this accident on many different sites. BTW, other pilots I know concur with my views and obviously nobody will ever know for sure exactly what happened. There are many different possibilities here.
@65rock4ever First, read what I wrote. Yes, I am a pilot. Got my license almost 45y ago and have way over 10,0000 hrs. Have flown around the world 6 times, should have been 7 but I was ill this past summer. I meant to help you out. The pilot was a young men, recently got his instrument ticket, was ill prepared for this kind off weather. Even now, I would not have taking off in that type of weather in the kind of airplane. Sir, it has nothing to do with the instrument scan. Lack of experience.
@CaptainArt777 I also have several thousand hours -- been flying since 1970 I disagree with your asessment though. I've flown both the A-36 and V-35 Bonanzas and familiar with the flight characteristics including the ancient Sperry reverse-sensing gyros. Have you ever had a gyroscopic or pitotstatic instrument failure ? Then you should understand the importance of the scan. This is basic flying 101 here. The bad weather is a no-brainer. I would not have flown that night.
@65rock4ever Sir, you keep going back to the instruments and the scan. What I was trying to tell you was the weather played a huge part in this. A small plane can not handle the snow and let alone the ice that may have built up. You should know what ice can do to a small plane. No matter how often you scan, if the plane ice up, you will be going down. We had a problem with ice in our Citation Ultra, then a little in our Citation Encore coming out of Iceland. Happy Flying and Peace Be With You.
@CaptainArt777 Any pilot knows how icing affects flight, this is obvious. A pilot who is paying close attention to the instrument panel will recognize there is a problem - whether it's induced by ice or another factor. I doubt there was much ice on Buddy's plane as they crashed about 2 or 3 minutes into the flight. Eyewitnesses at the airport saw the plane descending as it disappeared from view. I've encountered rime ice myself and we all know the drill. Good luck.
@65rock4ever I let you have the last word since you are so hang up on the instrument scan which in my view had only contribute maybe 10% to the crash. It is my unshaken believe that Weather and the pilot decision to fly while still on the ground was the making of the crash. I never said that icing cause the crash, only that it could have been a factor. I said from the beginning that the pilot was a brand new instrument pilot and should have stay on the ground. I give you the last word.
My Mom & Dad was there at that concert in Clear Lake, IA., They had just gotten married & Mom was pregnate with my oldest sister. dad said it was really cold out that day & it didnt start getting bad til later on that evening. They drove there that afternon & went to the concert that night. He said the wind had picked up then when the concert was over & the temp dropped. they drove home that night too. & it was a 40 mile drive home he said. RIP Guys!. Yall are missed dearly.
The pilot had failed his plane school tests and wasn't taught how to fly with instruments (the altitude meter was reversed so he thought he was climbing but he was actually going down).
This was before my time but the move of Richie Valens's Life was such a great one. I fell in love with whom he was and never have or would have ever the chance to experience his greatnest. The chills you say.....??
im a true fan of RV, i still feel sad, he was so talented, im getting goose bumps as i hear this.. he could have given us much more great sounds... this is a haunted song
carbueretor icing. thats my bet. that little plane didnt have a super turbo charger or wastegate to help heat incoming intake air. if the pilot didnt get above the cold air quik i bet ice forming in the air intake passages choked the planes engine.
@sm350bl1 It wasn't carb icing; this Bonanza did have carb heat. Plus, the CAB accident report noted that both prop blades were sheared off at the hub, indicating that the engine was producing power at the time of impact. When the crash occurred, the plane had only been aloft for about 5 minutes.
I am not sure DeputyDog if they knew really who they were transporting. At least for Buddy, Ritchie, JP, and Roger (their pilot) they died instantly in this horrific crash and did not suffer. Music suffered until The Beatles brought it all back home. Thank God they were such big fans of Buddy Holly.
how would rock music have worked out if buddy had lived? also richie valens was a rising star with great potential of course not to forget the big bopper
i hope it was just an accident, that no one sabotaged the plane or that it was told that ritchie had a fight in the cockpit or that buddy holly shoot roger with his pistol that they found...R.I.P
@lautt 75 chill mate dont get lairy fuck em all we know the good ones died dont worry buddy and ritchie have immortatality throought there music ... theres no god so i wont say god bless them just thank you for the music you enriched my life with from 1979 to now a british ex teddy boy who is now 45 buddy i remember you with tears in my eyes
Amazing only three or four seconds of film remains. You know there's plenty more somewhere, and plenty of other photographs too. We can see JFK's autopsy photos and even the Zapruder film, but we cannot see the Buddy Holly archive.
@TheSomethingIsh If you lived in rural Iowa and received a call that Buddy Holly's plane had crashed nearby, wouldn't you go running with every camera, piece of film, and movie camera that you had? Police, fire, news reporters, onlookers, fans, you name it. There must be dozens and dozens of photos and as many home movie films as the JFK assassination. Okay, maybe not that much, but a lot more than we see today.
Omg really tag em bag em damn i was born in 1978 and i even know these guys are the reason music was ever any good unlike fuckin justin bieber who makes me sick
Must have been a terrible way to go, waiting to hit the ground in that old piece of crap airplane. I heard about the exhumation of the Big Bopper to check into rumor due to a hand gun that was found at the crash site. No gunshots were evident and a relative of his was there at the autopsy. The preservation was so good that the family resemblance was still easy to see even 50 years after death.
just by chance Ritchie's songs came into my mind this morning - kept humming them all day until I checked them up here - and for the first time I saw this footage. How I miss their songs Ritchie's and Buddy's and all the other great singers that had to part so early in their lives! our generation did have the best music ever - no doubt. thank you for sharing this with the rest of the world. Mahalo as we say in Hawaii for thank you - and Auf Wiedersehen in Germany where I am now
When Holly learned that Jennings wasn't going to fly, he said in jest, "Well, I hope your ol' bus freezes up" and Jennings responded, also in jest, "Well, I hope your ol' plane crashes". Ironic much? I'll bet those words haunted Jennings until the day he died.
As a pvt pilot from Illinois i can say the Midwest is a weather machine and especially in the winter. It is not a safe thing to do. But it is done. There are large flocks of migratory game birds, ice, precip, visibility issues, fuel management,weight problems (the CG moves back during a flight). Not at all like an airliner
@1234clydey Not at all suspicious. These guys had to carry around large amounts of cash from their shows; they weren't paid by check. Buddy wasn't the only performer back then who carried a pistol with him on the road. Plus, he was a Texan; having a gun isn't unusual at all for them. If I was toting around $200 cash in my pocket on the road in 1959, I'd want to pack a revolver, too. Buddy had his tires slashed when he was on the road once before; crime was a very real threat in some places.
@galoon it was for me alot i knew that crime was bad in parts of worlds and texans love to carry guns im from the south as well... and i knew they carried around lots of money my choice of weapon would be a m1911 colt but i guess he had different tastes
@1234clydey I'm from the South, myself. I saw a nice M1911 for sale not too long ago; I wish I'd bought it now--I've never owned a .45 before! Buddy's pistol was a small German-made "Saturday night special"--I don't know whether it was a revolver or a semi-auto. I think it was a .22 but I'm not sure.
Who made up that ritchie had a fight in the cockpit, i dont think its true, ritchie would know what happen when he would do that, so i dont think it happened, i thought roger peterson just didnt know stuff...
@619badazz13 Are you really that stupid? How the fuck would you ever know that....there were NO survivors! You sound fucking stupid when you say shit like this...fucking hillbilly!
completey irrelevant,this was a twin engine small plane...and the wreckage is damn visible..where as 9/11 flight which crashed over PA....not even a single debris..lol...
I gotta wonder--did those people at the crash sight know or have any inkling at all as to whom they were putting in those body bags?? Did they give any thought as to the monumental historic significance those young pioneers would have on the future of Rock 'N Roll?? Their impact is still echoing to this day--and I for one--still hear them just lke I did in 1959. It just isn't the same without them...
@DeputyDog644 dog they just crashed and thats it , inless some one on that plain owed a gambling debt , freak out and tryed to make the pilot land who will ever know but god
@619badazz13 ....You're right--the plane crashed--bad weather...or--was it just simply their time to open the gates to Rock 'n Roll Heaven??? We'll find out only when we get there to ask 'em. Until then, enjoy the legacy they left for us...........may they Rest In Peace
@DeputyDog644 I doubt the farmer types would have had a clue about teen idols. This one of those great "What ifs?" Say you could time travel like on that show "Quantum Leap" back to 1959 and change history? All they needed was a decent bus.......
@DeputyDog644 what i think happen is ritche flipped out at the last minute and wanted them to land , there was a struggle in the cock pit and boom ! that was it
@619badazz13 What happened was the pilot Roger Pererson had failed his instrument test a few days previous so when the plane took off and within minutes he thought he was making a climbing turn when infact the plane was decending so when the plane hit the ground part of the wing was ripped off and found 500 yards away. Jerry Dwyer who owned the airfield said he was the plane in the distance and saw it come down but thought it was an optical illusion.
@DeputyDog644 I understand your thoughts but back then Rock and Roll was seen as a fad. These guys didnt get any recognition till the mid 70s when 1950s culture became nostalgic & popular. The Movie "Amrican Grafitti" had a very big part in that. I have been selling records since the early 70s & 1950s rock and roll records were hard to sell till Amercan Grafitti came out. Unfortunately their early deaths contributed to the popularity. I do wonder what their future music would have sounded like?
@DeputyDog644 - just by chance Ritchie's songs came into my mind this morning - kept humming them all day until I checked them up here - and for the first time I saw this footage. How I miss their songs Ritchie's and Buddy's and all the other great singers that had to part so early in their lives! our generation did have the best music ever - no doubt. thank you for sharing this with the rest of the world. Mahalo as we say in Hawaii for thank you - and Auf Wiedersehen in Germany where I am now
On the 30/10/2011, I went to a Buddy Holley impersanation show, he was exceptionaly good as were the the band, makes me wonder where all those years have gone, what a brilliant era of music we had back then, I am lucky to have been born into this generation, keep on rockin Buddy.
Awww so sad but I love all kind of music that why I put musiclover :) and I love listen Spanish n English rock n roll and hiphop n pop and Mexican but I love more oldies but goodies :) I will die without music :\
Goddamnit am i the only on that listens to this music?My retarded friends listen to that shitty techno rap pop rock or something, and i listen only to the classics and they are just retarded.No one i know listens to them, only i do. :(
@TheSomethingIsh I hear ya. in these days, it's mostly just for the bucks. a lot of the heart and soul has gone out of music to be replaced by dollar signs.
@stingme88x Exactly. My friends refer to this type of music (Buddy Holly and the like) as shit. I guess their parents and grandparents didn't teach 'em anything. Don't get me wrong though, I like some of today's music, like Tool and Disturbed but my rather large collection of music mostly consists of all the "oldies but goldies". I wish I could've lived back then.
Can we get Justin Beiber, Lady Gaga, and Black Eyed Peas in a plane together, please? We could call it the day the bullshit died and we could celebrate it everyday by supporting talented artists.
Music during that time had a melody and meaningful words you could understand and in many cases relate to, unlike the garbage today. There is no musicality in pop music today, it's diarrhea.
OMG ...I love Richie and was looking up videos and just came across this video. To shocking!!! and so tragic!!! They left some great music for us to remember them by
who are these jackasses ??? tommy was tommy allsup not waylon! waylon never said he did the coin toss! if you said he told you you gotta quit smoking weed! waylon gave his seat to jp richadson because he was sick!! tommy allsup (guitar player) coin flipped richie! dumbass learn your history! waylon interview with ralph emory he told the story! or read his autobiography- and shut your pie hole! your probally some nigger that listens to rap!
There is a musical based on Buddy and his friends called "Buddy" If you haven't seen it, start checking the theatre's in your area for this main stage show. It was beautiful, touching, and such a great glimse into their lives. They will always be missed but live on through their music! <3
is there a plane crash scene in one of the movies? i don't want to see dead bodies or anything its just that in some of the pictures the bodies look totally different. please reply
@bridget9880 i mean like some of the pictures of the crash the bodies look different. lets say that you see ritchie's looks like a big blob but in another picture his body looks normal
i saw Buddy in 57', i had a front row seat. He and the Crickets had no idea in the beginning they would become so famous and Buddy died never knowing what a big mark he would make in the music world for musicians, even into the next century. But he was a stickler for what he wanted in arrangement and sound and never let anyone else change what he was doing. They say he was stubborn on that. Thank God for sharing Buddy with us, even for 22 years. Rest in Peace, old boy, we still love you.
Most people don't know but Waylon Jennings is the guy that lost the coin flip or won it depending how you are looking at it.He went by another name at that time.
@numberonekong Thats what Waylon told me in 1990s...someone saying Allsep saw his stage name then....wonder if the "Allsep" Markets in Texas was owned by Mr.Jennings..?
Their music will not be forever. The white race is going extinct from massive non-white immigration and race mixing and when we are gone the music will be gone like like nobody ever sings the songs of the Mound People or the Hittites anymore because they are extinct and so is their language, art, history, etc.
Their music will live forever ! There will always be people who know good music when they hear it. As for the kids and computers, they are not called electronic baby-sitters for nothing. We have a new generation of parents that ALLOW them to sit on their fat and getting fatter asses in front of a computer game all day. I know many kids who look like fucking vampires from never going outside. It's the sorry ass parents who allow it that is the problem.
@JKere09 Man even in the early 90's the internet was still a new thing. And its not only the internet, its playstations, tvs, xbox electronics in general thats messing up the generations. When i was growing up, i LOVED to go outside. my brother who is 10 years younger than i am, and he'd rather sit on his ass and play games of sports than go do it. Thats why children are getting fatter and fatter through the generations. Its a snowball reaction, till its going to come crashing down on our heads.
For everyone wishing to go back in time, you dont need to, whats stopping us from making music like this today? Why must we think so much about the past? we can stop all the shit that is happening these days and make our own classic music. Theres nothing stopping you.
I wish in the future they could create a time machine, so i could go back to the 50's and warn ritchie...then i go back to the modern years and can enjoy more songs of ritchie...
@mimato I just saddens me to hear what passes for "good" or "popular" music these days. Lady Gaga, Justin Bieber, Hinder and Soulja Boy. I mean what is this shit? Most people today have no taste and even less intelligence.
What Passes for Good or Popular music is what you make it to be. If you like justin bieber then to hell with it if you like it that's fine, Saying people have no taste and even less intelligence only makes you seem like the dumb kid here. Accept it that people have different styles, sucks to be you really.
@jackslater230011 A lot of today's pop music sucks. But then again not all pop music from the 50s and 60s is as good as this either. Thats what people seem to forget a lot. You listen to the best 10-30 albums of a decade and forget there were literally thousands of releases and some of them were just as horrible as GaGa, Bieber, etc. I listen to a lot of new music, but definitely not the acts listed here. Pop music always has and always will suck, simply put.
@ken760ca for instance lookup a vid called The Worst Songs of the 50s to see what I'm talking about. These were popular during their releases and they suck! Just keep this in mind next time you want to act like your chit dont stink. At the end of the day, its all just music and matter of opinion. To be honest there is only so much oldies I can take, even the best stuff.
@jackslater230011 I wouldn't wish death on anyone.....I know JB and Rebecca Black is not as good. But that's part of life......God takes the and gives. I just wish they can quit already. Anyways, Ritche, Holly and Big. All Made a impact in music. And they'll also be remembered for that.
The pilot WAS experienced, it was just very snowy and maybe he couldnt see anything, so when he thought: " Hey lets go down " then he made a mistake... its not the fault he didnt know anything, he just couldnt see in the snow (My conclusion)
TheSomethingIsh 4 days ago
Hey you guys, debating over this crash will not bring Buddy Holly back. The fact is he died young just when his career was really taking off. Since nobody will ever know exactly what happened that night, why don't we just honor his memory by enjoying his great music.
drummerbob51 4 days ago
I'm not going to waste any more time arguing over a tragic event which occured over 50 years ago. Go ahead, have the final say here, I don.t care. The bottom line : three musicians died because a young kid fresh from flight school over-estimated his capabilities and those of the airplane. You can think whatever you want, but I've spoken to many other pilots with decades of flight time who happen to agree the failure to maintain a proper scan was the main factor here.
65rock4ever 6 days ago
I'm not hung up on the instrument scan -- this was the NTSB's conclusion, not mine. Obviously the weather was not suitable for flight, however , with light blowing snow the airport was still above VFR minimums when the plane departed. The young inexperienced pilot interpreted this as being okay. I would suggest in the future you examine the NTSB and other reports regarding a crash before jumping to conclusions. Also, ice affects ALL airplanes regardless of size. Air Florida 737, DC-8-62, etc
65rock4ever 6 days ago
The NTSB report on this crash concluded that spatial disorientation by the pilot was the main factor. Icing was not listed as a significant factor in the crash. The plane had not been airborne long enough for the neccesary accumulation of ice to affect flight. The NTSB pointed to bad judgment by the pilot in attempting flight under these weather conditions. The disorientation was the result of no real time IFR experience including failure to scan the panel correctly. Buddy deserved better.
65rock4ever 1 week ago
Read the original Civil Aeronautics Board report on this crash online interesting read on this terrible tragedy that claimed 3 rock n roll pioneers
1870afjw 1 week ago
First, the weather was bad. Blowing snow. Witnesses said the wind was so hard the snow was blowing sideways. There words. It was a single engine Bonanza, flown by a young kid that only recently got his instrument lic. In those days, the instruments are nothing like they are today. They simple should not have flown that day. I have waited out those type of days and I have thousands of hours and flown for decades. Bad decision in the air or on the ground can lead to death. Sad.
CaptainArt777 1 week ago
For those that don't know
CaptainArt777 1 week ago
What was the pilot thinking flying in those conditions...
corrion1 1 week ago
@corrion1 he was young when you r young u think u can do anything no matter what it is
xNATiVEBeast 1 week ago
my mom just loved the 50's and she loved to hear this song although her life was pretty terrible when she heard this music she would smile and dance around singing I sure do miss her I sometimes put on some 50's music and sing along I feel her here?
bud9613 2 weeks ago
No excuses for this. All pilots are taught to continually scan the instrument panel ( I am one myself ). Had he done this one basic thing it wouldn't have happened. As a young student pilot I got caught on top of a thick overcast several thousand feet thick, and I descended on instruments through this with no problem whatsoever. Even with a "partial-panel" scenario where some of the gauges have failed you can still do this safely. Maybe he was distracted by something inside the plane ?
65rock4ever 2 weeks ago
@65rock4ever Please don't talk about an event you know nothing about. You look like a fool.
CaptainArt777 1 week ago
@CaptainArt777 If you know so much about this crash, why don't you tell me what happened. Do you fly airplanes ? Have you read the official NTSB report on this event ? I've researched this accident on many different sites. BTW, other pilots I know concur with my views and obviously nobody will ever know for sure exactly what happened. There are many different possibilities here.
65rock4ever 1 week ago
@65rock4ever First, read what I wrote. Yes, I am a pilot. Got my license almost 45y ago and have way over 10,0000 hrs. Have flown around the world 6 times, should have been 7 but I was ill this past summer. I meant to help you out. The pilot was a young men, recently got his instrument ticket, was ill prepared for this kind off weather. Even now, I would not have taking off in that type of weather in the kind of airplane. Sir, it has nothing to do with the instrument scan. Lack of experience.
CaptainArt777 1 week ago
@CaptainArt777 I also have several thousand hours -- been flying since 1970 I disagree with your asessment though. I've flown both the A-36 and V-35 Bonanzas and familiar with the flight characteristics including the ancient Sperry reverse-sensing gyros. Have you ever had a gyroscopic or pitotstatic instrument failure ? Then you should understand the importance of the scan. This is basic flying 101 here. The bad weather is a no-brainer. I would not have flown that night.
65rock4ever 1 week ago
@65rock4ever Sir, you keep going back to the instruments and the scan. What I was trying to tell you was the weather played a huge part in this. A small plane can not handle the snow and let alone the ice that may have built up. You should know what ice can do to a small plane. No matter how often you scan, if the plane ice up, you will be going down. We had a problem with ice in our Citation Ultra, then a little in our Citation Encore coming out of Iceland. Happy Flying and Peace Be With You.
CaptainArt777 1 week ago
@CaptainArt777 Any pilot knows how icing affects flight, this is obvious. A pilot who is paying close attention to the instrument panel will recognize there is a problem - whether it's induced by ice or another factor. I doubt there was much ice on Buddy's plane as they crashed about 2 or 3 minutes into the flight. Eyewitnesses at the airport saw the plane descending as it disappeared from view. I've encountered rime ice myself and we all know the drill. Good luck.
65rock4ever 1 week ago
@65rock4ever I let you have the last word since you are so hang up on the instrument scan which in my view had only contribute maybe 10% to the crash. It is my unshaken believe that Weather and the pilot decision to fly while still on the ground was the making of the crash. I never said that icing cause the crash, only that it could have been a factor. I said from the beginning that the pilot was a brand new instrument pilot and should have stay on the ground. I give you the last word.
CaptainArt777 6 days ago
I'm so sad:(
Nattieluvsjimmy 2 weeks ago
My Mom & Dad was there at that concert in Clear Lake, IA., They had just gotten married & Mom was pregnate with my oldest sister. dad said it was really cold out that day & it didnt start getting bad til later on that evening. They drove there that afternon & went to the concert that night. He said the wind had picked up then when the concert was over & the temp dropped. they drove home that night too. & it was a 40 mile drive home he said. RIP Guys!. Yall are missed dearly.
brut2011 2 weeks ago
Omfg...my brother looks like richie v. Man this was a super sad movie... I creid so much!
Nattieluvsjimmy 2 weeks ago
@Nattieluvsjimmy so did i such a shame he Richie was so young it's a tragedy!
putty1994 2 weeks ago in playlist Music 2
@mario5059, maybe its screw YOU. You never have and never will have a single ounce of talent that the other guys had. Live with that! Peace
camacho570 2 weeks ago
they should play this at the end of la bamba
romero763 3 weeks ago
What a sad moment for rock`n` roll.:(
romagladiator1 3 weeks ago 2
Planes, planes, and more planes and the intricate stories beyond the tragedy of the occurrence.
moranmine 3 weeks ago
The pilot had failed his plane school tests and wasn't taught how to fly with instruments (the altitude meter was reversed so he thought he was climbing but he was actually going down).
THE REASON IS: PILOT FAILURE
TheProGamerHW 3 weeks ago
Amazing how the simple flip of a coin took so much away from us but gave so much to rockn roll heaven
ld1000xx 3 weeks ago
The day the music died!!
phildedog 3 weeks ago
This was before my time but the move of Richie Valens's Life was such a great one. I fell in love with whom he was and never have or would have ever the chance to experience his greatnest. The chills you say.....??
conniehammonds 3 weeks ago
im a true fan of RV, i still feel sad, he was so talented, im getting goose bumps as i hear this.. he could have given us much more great sounds... this is a haunted song
thebarrochannel 3 weeks ago
What a very sad day...maybe the saddest day in history of music...
gixxerboy555 4 weeks ago
carbueretor icing. thats my bet. that little plane didnt have a super turbo charger or wastegate to help heat incoming intake air. if the pilot didnt get above the cold air quik i bet ice forming in the air intake passages choked the planes engine.
sm350bl1 4 weeks ago
@sm350bl1 It wasn't carb icing; this Bonanza did have carb heat. Plus, the CAB accident report noted that both prop blades were sheared off at the hub, indicating that the engine was producing power at the time of impact. When the crash occurred, the plane had only been aloft for about 5 minutes.
galoon 3 days ago
I am not sure DeputyDog if they knew really who they were transporting. At least for Buddy, Ritchie, JP, and Roger (their pilot) they died instantly in this horrific crash and did not suffer. Music suffered until The Beatles brought it all back home. Thank God they were such big fans of Buddy Holly.
mschierb1 4 weeks ago
how would rock music have worked out if buddy had lived? also richie valens was a rising star with great potential of course not to forget the big bopper
12presspart 4 weeks ago
As fate will have it,the late,great singer/songwriter/recording artist Waylon Jennings
decided not to board that airplane on that sad day.Waylon was a member of Buddy
Holly's band The Crickets.
loungerenownrecords 1 month ago
Such a tragedy for that to happen! I only know what I've saw in the La Bamba movie! Way beyond my time!
fakeknife87 1 month ago
sabotage?wtf?
dereksloane 1 month ago
sorry, what's the title of this song?
mikeclonetroopers 1 month ago
R.I.P Buddy Holly
R.I.P Ritchie Valens
R.I.P J.P Richardson The Big Bopper
R.I.P Roger Peterson
i hope it was just an accident, that no one sabotaged the plane or that it was told that ritchie had a fight in the cockpit or that buddy holly shoot roger with his pistol that they found...R.I.P
TheSomethingIsh 1 month ago
It's just a shame r.I.p
ccr380 1 month ago
buddy holly rest in peace SCREW EVERYBODY ELSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
supermario5059 1 month ago
@supermario5059 lol, thats fuckin horrible man how can you say that
churchofsatan23 1 month ago
DARN THE COIN FLIP
CHn11000 1 month ago 7
body identification anyone?
TylarPomroyskates 1 month ago
Thank you for the partage.
sabrina60ful 1 month ago
@lautt 75 chill mate dont get lairy fuck em all we know the good ones died dont worry buddy and ritchie have immortatality throought there music ... theres no god so i wont say god bless them just thank you for the music you enriched my life with from 1979 to now a british ex teddy boy who is now 45 buddy i remember you with tears in my eyes
truimphsrule 1 month ago
The day the music died.
joyhaydon 1 month ago
Amazing only three or four seconds of film remains. You know there's plenty more somewhere, and plenty of other photographs too. We can see JFK's autopsy photos and even the Zapruder film, but we cannot see the Buddy Holly archive.
matt605 1 month ago
@matt605
What do you mean with buddy holly archive i dont get what it is, but anyway its true what you say.TELL MEH! :)
TheSomethingIsh 1 month ago
@TheSomethingIsh If you lived in rural Iowa and received a call that Buddy Holly's plane had crashed nearby, wouldn't you go running with every camera, piece of film, and movie camera that you had? Police, fire, news reporters, onlookers, fans, you name it. There must be dozens and dozens of photos and as many home movie films as the JFK assassination. Okay, maybe not that much, but a lot more than we see today.
matt605 1 month ago
Omg really tag em bag em damn i was born in 1978 and i even know these guys are the reason music was ever any good unlike fuckin justin bieber who makes me sick
snuggiebuggie1978 1 month ago
Must have been a terrible way to go, waiting to hit the ground in that old piece of crap airplane. I heard about the exhumation of the Big Bopper to check into rumor due to a hand gun that was found at the crash site. No gunshots were evident and a relative of his was there at the autopsy. The preservation was so good that the family resemblance was still easy to see even 50 years after death.
Aruji09 1 month ago
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just by chance Ritchie's songs came into my mind this morning - kept humming them all day until I checked them up here - and for the first time I saw this footage. How I miss their songs Ritchie's and Buddy's and all the other great singers that had to part so early in their lives! our generation did have the best music ever - no doubt. thank you for sharing this with the rest of the world. Mahalo as we say in Hawaii for thank you - and Auf Wiedersehen in Germany where I am now
TheEduardo9636 1 month ago
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chriskilgore2245 1 month ago
Tag em and bag em!!!
spareaxe 1 month ago
@spareaxe
Who the fuck are you too say tag em and bag em you fucking prick, this was rock and roll founders I hope you fucking die spareaxe
Lautt75 1 month ago
@Lautt75 Oh yeah, we'll all be tagged and bagged sooner or later...fact!
spareaxe 1 month ago
THE BADDEST JAM IN THE WORLD !!!!
619badazz13 1 month ago
i cried my eyes out when this happened i was on my to college when i heard this on my car radio
193848663 1 month ago
Damn structural icing.......
wes4569 1 month ago
When Holly learned that Jennings wasn't going to fly, he said in jest, "Well, I hope your ol' bus freezes up" and Jennings responded, also in jest, "Well, I hope your ol' plane crashes". Ironic much? I'll bet those words haunted Jennings until the day he died.
hillaryRIOT 1 month ago
R.i .p buddy richie bopper
marycockburn1 1 month ago
As a pvt pilot from Illinois i can say the Midwest is a weather machine and especially in the winter. It is not a safe thing to do. But it is done. There are large flocks of migratory game birds, ice, precip, visibility issues, fuel management,weight problems (the CG moves back during a flight). Not at all like an airliner
Gitfidlpickr 1 month ago
a bit suspicous buddy took his colt on the plan ride dont ya think
1234clydey 2 months ago
@1234clydey Not at all suspicious. These guys had to carry around large amounts of cash from their shows; they weren't paid by check. Buddy wasn't the only performer back then who carried a pistol with him on the road. Plus, he was a Texan; having a gun isn't unusual at all for them. If I was toting around $200 cash in my pocket on the road in 1959, I'd want to pack a revolver, too. Buddy had his tires slashed when he was on the road once before; crime was a very real threat in some places.
galoon 3 days ago
@galoon it was for me alot i knew that crime was bad in parts of worlds and texans love to carry guns im from the south as well... and i knew they carried around lots of money my choice of weapon would be a m1911 colt but i guess he had different tastes
1234clydey 1 day ago
@1234clydey I'm from the South, myself. I saw a nice M1911 for sale not too long ago; I wish I'd bought it now--I've never owned a .45 before! Buddy's pistol was a small German-made "Saturday night special"--I don't know whether it was a revolver or a semi-auto. I think it was a .22 but I'm not sure.
galoon 1 day ago
@galoon well that is nice to know im pretty sure it is a .22
1234clydey 9 hours ago
Who made up that ritchie had a fight in the cockpit, i dont think its true, ritchie would know what happen when he would do that, so i dont think it happened, i thought roger peterson just didnt know stuff...
TheSomethingIsh 2 months ago
Hi, I love to look and listen to music videos from the past . I like different versions
of the same songs. I must say some of the covers even sound better than the
originals anyway have a look at my video responces. Warning.. What you are about to hear affects different people in different ways Be warned
Good luck to you all. BRI - DAR
brienodeargain 2 months ago
Is there any proof of Ritchie freaking out in the cockpit?
spartanwarrior340 2 months ago
@spartanwarrior340 who knows dog , but thats what i think , and buddy tryed to stop him and thats when it went down
619badazz13 2 months ago
3 of the best rock n roll stars died on the same plane hummmm makes you think.
yoiam69 2 months ago
Buddy Holly 4ever!!!
Urankar3 2 months ago
Its kinda weird how many musicians died because of tragedies like this one.
djfatboy3 2 months ago
truth is ritchie fliped out at the last minute tryed to make the pilot land back down , there was a fight at in the cock pit and boom
619badazz13 2 months ago in playlist oldies
@619badazz13 Are you really that stupid? How the fuck would you ever know that....there were NO survivors! You sound fucking stupid when you say shit like this...fucking hillbilly!
larryoke2112 1 month ago
@larryoke2112 dude get a hobby
619badazz13 1 month ago
@larryoke2112 you dumb midd west idiot , learn how to read
619badazz13 1 month ago
american pie..................
hairybratwurst 2 months ago
completey irrelevant,this was a twin engine small plane...and the wreckage is damn visible..where as 9/11 flight which crashed over PA....not even a single debris..lol...
RIP RV:)
salllu 2 months ago
@salllu no rich tryed to make the pilot land and there was a fight in the cock pit
619badazz13 2 months ago in playlist oldies
@619badazz13 There is no truth. Everyone on board the plane died, so NO ONE will ever know how it happened.
0ThankYou0 2 months ago
@0ThankYou0 exactly they all died and thats it , only god knows
619badazz13 2 months ago
@0ThankYou0 but its a trip how a guy was afriad to fly died like that in a plain dont u think ? im thinking rich flipped out
619badazz13 2 months ago
D: NO! RITCHIE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ON THERE! D:
ibeliebinblue 2 months ago
Every time i hear the day the music died I feel hollow inside and I wanna cry I watched la Bamba I cried through the whole thing
Nattieluvsjimmy 2 months ago
The Day The Music Died
LostWolf76 2 months ago
@LostWolf76 rock n roll never dies
raunchy1313 2 months ago
wow this amazing thank you for posting
mariadoloresnelly 2 months ago
I gotta wonder--did those people at the crash sight know or have any inkling at all as to whom they were putting in those body bags?? Did they give any thought as to the monumental historic significance those young pioneers would have on the future of Rock 'N Roll?? Their impact is still echoing to this day--and I for one--still hear them just lke I did in 1959. It just isn't the same without them...
DeputyDog644 3 months ago 35
@DeputyDog644 dog they just crashed and thats it , inless some one on that plain owed a gambling debt , freak out and tryed to make the pilot land who will ever know but god
619badazz13 2 months ago
@619badazz13 ....You're right--the plane crashed--bad weather...or--was it just simply their time to open the gates to Rock 'n Roll Heaven??? We'll find out only when we get there to ask 'em. Until then, enjoy the legacy they left for us...........may they Rest In Peace
DeputyDog644 2 months ago 21
@DeputyDog644 Bad weather and more. Read my write up.
CaptainArt777 1 week ago
@DeputyDog644 man, that's deep.. i never thought of that.
BrokenSound92 2 months ago
@DeputyDog644 I doubt the farmer types would have had a clue about teen idols. This one of those great "What ifs?" Say you could time travel like on that show "Quantum Leap" back to 1959 and change history? All they needed was a decent bus.......
WALTERBROADDUS 1 month ago
@DeputyDog644 what i think happen is ritche flipped out at the last minute and wanted them to land , there was a struggle in the cock pit and boom ! that was it
619badazz13 1 month ago
@619badazz13 What happened was the pilot Roger Pererson had failed his instrument test a few days previous so when the plane took off and within minutes he thought he was making a climbing turn when infact the plane was decending so when the plane hit the ground part of the wing was ripped off and found 500 yards away. Jerry Dwyer who owned the airfield said he was the plane in the distance and saw it come down but thought it was an optical illusion.
Bordessa72 1 month ago
@DeputyDog644 I understand your thoughts but back then Rock and Roll was seen as a fad. These guys didnt get any recognition till the mid 70s when 1950s culture became nostalgic & popular. The Movie "Amrican Grafitti" had a very big part in that. I have been selling records since the early 70s & 1950s rock and roll records were hard to sell till Amercan Grafitti came out. Unfortunately their early deaths contributed to the popularity. I do wonder what their future music would have sounded like?
thewaybackmachine 1 month ago
@DeputyDog644 - just by chance Ritchie's songs came into my mind this morning - kept humming them all day until I checked them up here - and for the first time I saw this footage. How I miss their songs Ritchie's and Buddy's and all the other great singers that had to part so early in their lives! our generation did have the best music ever - no doubt. thank you for sharing this with the rest of the world. Mahalo as we say in Hawaii for thank you - and Auf Wiedersehen in Germany where I am now
makaleiana100 1 month ago
On the 30/10/2011, I went to a Buddy Holley impersanation show, he was exceptionaly good as were the the band, makes me wonder where all those years have gone, what a brilliant era of music we had back then, I am lucky to have been born into this generation, keep on rockin Buddy.
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anna0101able 3 months ago
@rotekgearcutter I'll take disco over today's garbage.
jackslater230011 3 months ago
this video was made on 9 11
bmartinezize 3 months ago
Awww so sad but I love all kind of music that why I put musiclover :) and I love listen Spanish n English rock n roll and hiphop n pop and Mexican but I love more oldies but goodies :) I will die without music :\
84musiclover 3 months ago
i like all music there is good in everything ...its all about perspective ,the day music died is trully tragic
TruleeCalifornia13 3 months ago
the pilot was younger than buddy....not enough experience.
1skullduggery 3 months ago
Goddamnit am i the only on that listens to this music?My retarded friends listen to that shitty techno rap pop rock or something, and i listen only to the classics and they are just retarded.No one i know listens to them, only i do. :(
TheSomethingIsh 3 months ago
@TheSomethingIsh I hear ya. in these days, it's mostly just for the bucks. a lot of the heart and soul has gone out of music to be replaced by dollar signs.
shielakay 3 months ago
Kirk Hammett
anaperez39 3 months ago
17 man!!! I font wanna die at 17!
Jaketer985 3 months ago
@switzerlicious I like the way you think.
jackslater230011 3 months ago
@stingme88x Exactly. My friends refer to this type of music (Buddy Holly and the like) as shit. I guess their parents and grandparents didn't teach 'em anything. Don't get me wrong though, I like some of today's music, like Tool and Disturbed but my rather large collection of music mostly consists of all the "oldies but goldies". I wish I could've lived back then.
jackslater230011 3 months ago
Can we get Justin Beiber, Lady Gaga, and Black Eyed Peas in a plane together, please? We could call it the day the bullshit died and we could celebrate it everyday by supporting talented artists.
switzerlicious 3 months ago
Music during that time had a melody and meaningful words you could understand and in many cases relate to, unlike the garbage today. There is no musicality in pop music today, it's diarrhea.
hziegler 3 months ago
Are those bodies on the ground?
MultiHoopdreams 3 months ago
i dedicate this song to my nena......
DeeMicks 3 months ago
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DeeMicks 3 months ago
R.I.P. VALENS R.
CeeEmmz 3 months ago
OMG ...I love Richie and was looking up videos and just came across this video. To shocking!!! and so tragic!!! They left some great music for us to remember them by
tomartstone 3 months ago
who are these jackasses ??? tommy was tommy allsup not waylon! waylon never said he did the coin toss! if you said he told you you gotta quit smoking weed! waylon gave his seat to jp richadson because he was sick!! tommy allsup (guitar player) coin flipped richie! dumbass learn your history! waylon interview with ralph emory he told the story! or read his autobiography- and shut your pie hole! your probally some nigger that listens to rap!
jingle1453 3 months ago
sad........
viviane7152 3 months ago
did anyone notice the pilots body in the wreck? And Ritchies body up close?
Forevernight 3 months ago
I'm 64 years old now. Nice to have people uploading videos of previous musical
sensations. It's like a time machine going back!
47salad 3 months ago
We lost a lot of great artists in the 50's, 60's and 70's and not through drugs but accidents. Sad real sad.
lucripet 3 months ago
sez whom? daddy o
trux85 3 months ago
so sad that they all died so young but they are having the time of their life in heaven may they all rests in peace. ^_^
ladyyuna2000 3 months ago
So much for cheap airline flights in bad weather. Always use a tour bus instead.
SCHRUBBE1966 3 months ago
@SCHRUBBE1966: The engine on the bus froze!
gorillaz6399 2 months ago
@jano2425 Its not the amount of years we live,but what we do in the years we live that count,Most would not get what he did in those 17 years.
numberonekong 3 months ago 19
There is a musical based on Buddy and his friends called "Buddy" If you haven't seen it, start checking the theatre's in your area for this main stage show. It was beautiful, touching, and such a great glimse into their lives. They will always be missed but live on through their music! <3
autumnangel228 3 months ago
is there a plane crash scene in one of the movies? i don't want to see dead bodies or anything its just that in some of the pictures the bodies look totally different. please reply
TheKingCameron 3 months ago
@TheKingCameron its real.. sorry :/
bridget9880 3 months ago
@bridget9880 but why do the bodies look so diffrent in the pictures
TheKingCameron 3 months ago
@TheKingCameron because they're mangled from a plane crash
bridget9880 3 months ago
@bridget9880 i mean like some of the pictures of the crash the bodies look different. lets say that you see ritchie's looks like a big blob but in another picture his body looks normal
TheKingCameron 3 months ago
@TheKingCameron ohh okay, i didnt realize.
bridget9880 3 months ago
i saw Buddy in 57', i had a front row seat. He and the Crickets had no idea in the beginning they would become so famous and Buddy died never knowing what a big mark he would make in the music world for musicians, even into the next century. But he was a stickler for what he wanted in arrangement and sound and never let anyone else change what he was doing. They say he was stubborn on that. Thank God for sharing Buddy with us, even for 22 years. Rest in Peace, old boy, we still love you.
lunaursus 3 months ago
It was the destiny. Ritchie Valens aways dream he would die in a plane crash, than, when he lost his fear, he die!
R.I.P. Valens, Holly and Bopper!
Tenaz001 3 months ago
Most people don't know but Waylon Jennings is the guy that lost the coin flip or won it depending how you are looking at it.He went by another name at that time.
numberonekong 3 months ago
@numberonekong Thats what Waylon told me in 1990s...someone saying Allsep saw his stage name then....wonder if the "Allsep" Markets in Texas was owned by Mr.Jennings..?
trux85 3 months ago
Their music will not be forever. The white race is going extinct from massive non-white immigration and race mixing and when we are gone the music will be gone like like nobody ever sings the songs of the Mound People or the Hittites anymore because they are extinct and so is their language, art, history, etc.
JackTiger9 3 months ago
@JackTiger9 zieg heil!
Forevernight 3 months ago
Their music will live forever ! There will always be people who know good music when they hear it. As for the kids and computers, they are not called electronic baby-sitters for nothing. We have a new generation of parents that ALLOW them to sit on their fat and getting fatter asses in front of a computer game all day. I know many kids who look like fucking vampires from never going outside. It's the sorry ass parents who allow it that is the problem.
MrUrbango 3 months ago
Their music will live forever ! There will always be people who know good music when they hear it.
MrUrbango 3 months ago
@JKere09 Man even in the early 90's the internet was still a new thing. And its not only the internet, its playstations, tvs, xbox electronics in general thats messing up the generations. When i was growing up, i LOVED to go outside. my brother who is 10 years younger than i am, and he'd rather sit on his ass and play games of sports than go do it. Thats why children are getting fatter and fatter through the generations. Its a snowball reaction, till its going to come crashing down on our heads.
Sm0K3r92 3 months ago
just turned 12 when this crash happened.
47salad 3 months ago
@47salad so, how old are you ?
robertas2391 3 months ago
Good riddance!
crazyradioman 3 months ago
@crazyradioman you may be next.
MyDude1991 3 months ago
@JKere09 I here ya
SStoge21 3 months ago
Ritchieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee....eee :(
iodars 3 months ago 8
@iodars Cue The "Sleepwalk Song end"
Haven3000 2 months ago
@Haven3000 yeah dumb ass does that sound like sleepwalk to you ..
MrKrazykev13 2 months ago
For everyone wishing to go back in time, you dont need to, whats stopping us from making music like this today? Why must we think so much about the past? we can stop all the shit that is happening these days and make our own classic music. Theres nothing stopping you.
SStoge21 3 months ago 2
Love you Buddy! One of the best ever!!!!!
JM13121 3 months ago
are song was more better them today songs
marybrown2066 3 months ago
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Richie Valens We belong together. Qual o nome do filme que tem esse tema de musica??????
What is the name of the movie that has this theme of music ???????
324234124 3 months ago
both of u ass holls have som fucking respect
karen9375 4 months ago
@WWEVideoTheUploader2 Go fuck yourself, you faggot-ass troll. Is this all you came to comment on? I stand by my previous statement.
jackslater230011 4 months ago
I wish in the future they could create a time machine, so i could go back to the 50's and warn ritchie...then i go back to the modern years and can enjoy more songs of ritchie...
TheSomethingIsh 4 months ago
are those bodies on the ground?
bearsafetyus 4 months ago
the day music die... as the song said.
hebdosports 4 months ago
@mimato I just saddens me to hear what passes for "good" or "popular" music these days. Lady Gaga, Justin Bieber, Hinder and Soulja Boy. I mean what is this shit? Most people today have no taste and even less intelligence.
jackslater230011 4 months ago 21
@jackslater230011 HOLD THAT THOUGHT IF YOU LET ME SAY SOMETHING YOU ARE AN IDOIT CALL NOW AND YOU CAN BE A RETARD
WWEVideoTheUploader2 4 months ago
@jackslater230011 what sucks even more is ppl don't acknowledge it. They dont have that "special ear"...
stingme88x 3 months ago
What Passes for Good or Popular music is what you make it to be. If you like justin bieber then to hell with it if you like it that's fine, Saying people have no taste and even less intelligence only makes you seem like the dumb kid here. Accept it that people have different styles, sucks to be you really.
infernoxvulk 3 months ago
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ken760ca 3 months ago
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ken760ca 3 months ago
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@jackslater230011 A lot of today's pop music sucks. But then again not all pop music from the 50s and 60s is as good as this either. Thats what people seem to forget a lot. You listen to the best 10-30 albums of a decade and forget there were literally thousands of releases and some of them were just as horrible as GaGa, Bieber, etc. I listen to a lot of new music, but definitely not the acts listed here. Pop music always has and always will suck, simply put.
ken760ca 3 months ago
@ken760ca for instance lookup a vid called The Worst Songs of the 50s to see what I'm talking about. These were popular during their releases and they suck! Just keep this in mind next time you want to act like your chit dont stink. At the end of the day, its all just music and matter of opinion. To be honest there is only so much oldies I can take, even the best stuff.
ken760ca 3 months ago
@jackslater230011 THANK YOU, JACK! I couldn't have said it better! It's nothing but complete mindless bullshit these days by superficial no-talents.
dogloverNV 3 months ago
@jackslater230011 i felt the same way bout disko
rotekgearcutter 3 months ago
Why can't Justin Bieber be killed in a plane crash? Why do they have to kill 3 of the best singers ever?
jackslater230011 4 months ago
@jackslater230011 I wouldn't wish death on anyone.....I know JB and Rebecca Black is not as good. But that's part of life......God takes the and gives. I just wish they can quit already. Anyways, Ritche, Holly and Big. All Made a impact in music. And they'll also be remembered for that.
mimato 4 months ago