Overclocked HD 4870 1GB - Sapphire Toxic Ed Review

[themagua100]

qual a psu que ela precisa?

[nargarothfreak]

ookey wierd you have more cd's than me and i have exactly the same card

i have onley the Driver cd of the video card

i have my DVD suit with my Blue Ray Dal layer buren

so that is strange i think

Cheers!

[TJTutorails]

@nargarothfreak Thats all you'll need dude. I wouldn't even use the disk, just go online and get the drivers, because their always up to date!

[nargarothfreak]

i have also that video card on you vid

but i have a question is it save to clock my video card over?

and do i have a Full HD ore a HD ready graphic card?

Cheers!

[ryanfong1]

damn thats the shit right there

[mrdiamondback1]

I dont need a new video card i need a whole new computer!!

[michalskrenek]

better buy 5870 :D

[snapplejacksabc]

How much does it cost cause im just thinking of buying a gaming rig but select ill install my own gpu

[KingOfSand100]

honestly, if you are good with hardware, if you want the best you are way better off getting a reference card and putting on a really nice GPU cooler.

[sergeant07]

sir what do you think i should do first upgrade my CPU cooler or upgrade my ram? purpose for gaming

[longhelltime]

"This is a biggy"

Thats what she said

[saikimimaru]

Will this card work on a Biostar Mcp6p m2+ mobo? If it will i think i am going to buy it.

[no1Reality]

PcWizGay you just Noob

[kristianmoinsen]

nice card....but mine is better hehe^^

[redwingsred2]

Right?.... right!

[MrChin000]

great card

[helmet98]

Everything in this world made in china...How long they made those things?

[wildreams]

In other words: China made the world XD

[helmet98]

Its God Made the world

[TushaarTheTerminator]

Dude can u tell me that,

HD 4870 will work on 450W PSU???

I have Phenom x3 processor, 2GB RAM, 1 Optical Drive, 1 HDD 160GB.. ??

[andyflashy]

hah i have 430w with that card and work very good

[De2t3ny]

no you need over an 600w

[AzzaHale2k7]

@TushaarTheTerminator what brand psu is it? if its sumit like corsair it shud, if not then it probably won't ull need a 550w+ psu if its not a good brand, mine an OCZ stealth xtreme sli 600w and runs this card easy

[MrsRandomMadeMeDoIt]

Could any of u computer wizards :P help me make a GREAT gaming rig for ''cheap''

This is what im thinking about getting so far.

AMD PHENOM II x4 955, 4x3.2GHZ BE AM3

MSI 770-C45 AM3 OG DDR3

HD4890 1GB DDR5

500GB SATAII WD 7200RPM

4GB DDR3 1333MHZ KINGSTON

750W 17DB, INTERTEC

CPUKCOOLER W. COPPER HEATPIPES

What should i replace ? anything i can improve here without increasing the price too much??

[sunom9eg]

buy a ati hd 5850 better card really fast

[lylix123]

@MrsRandomMadeMeDoIt

Get another graphic card, go for an i7 processor

[NoneImparticular]

That.. will increase price with about $700

[ipnhesbro]

hmm swap the 4890 for a 5850 =) or wait for a 5890 =D if you do a PSU of 650W is also enough :)

[TheFunniestDude]

if u wanna overclock it u could have something like the cooler master v8

[crimson177]

get a 5770

[AcidFalco]

ATX !!! what if you have MATX will it work ???? i have a huge case

[isaquebateryman1]

I did not find this video so good, because I have a fx 5200 (which is old) and I overclocked to 45MHZ more on the GPU and 110Mhz for more memory.

[GOOB3000]

Pre-overclocked? Tasty!

[SharkGTX]

Not bad GPU for that time... 5/5 I had the 4870 PCS+ (800/3800) and OC it to 855/4100 with air blow from external 2 fans on the bottom)

[MrFrederiktorp]

1 GB GDDR5 O_O

[killertoby1234]

my acer predator well died on me so my dad got a custom built pc with one of those in :)

[TheHardcoreChiller]

Can I play with this card Far Cry 2 and Crysis on all maxed out??

[sonofgrayfox]

with no AA at 1280 x 1024, sure

[N2K10]

umm no. u can run 8xaa and 1920x1080 just fine on 4870

[Serban3di]

YOU ARE BUT? He can play with that card at 1920x1080 with a good procesor ,at that resolution he dont need aa.

[deluxedookie]

8+ GB tri-channel ddr3 and 2 cards running crossfire with a i7 x58 or am3 phenom2 x4

better off doing quad sli

[amjovi]

If you've a good CPU and enoughram yuo can even run it with 4850 512mb.. like i did before i bought my 4870 1g Sli

[Dorisequador]

This card is exellent anixo full 16 x and maybe a 3x or 4 x FSAA but 8x would be a bit much at high rez..

[freaktube4]

you cn play it on probably 1440 x 900 or 1600 x 900 at high or maybe a bit higher on certain things and no aa it is a very very good card for the price right now

[omega1919191919]

I will most likey sound dumb to you pro's out there but what does overclocking mean

[FIAlex93]

Over clocking is pushing a card past it's stock limits on your own

[omega1919191919]

wow how do you do that ???? that wont kill my card will it ??? and that would make a large amount of heat

[FIAlex93]

Er, it depends on the card chipset brand, you can use rivatuner. I don't suggest doing it at all unless you have experience and it shortens the life of your card overall and produces higher temperatures

[SHNICI82]

The card is realy good.., its cheap in CF run great, at MB790FX realy full my heart !!! give me chance to OC it 40% ^^

[TheBlitz1]

i had 2 of these in crossfire in an antec 1200 on a rampage extreme x48 DDR3 motherboard

and im sorry to say

it was a mega fail performance wise

dual HD 4890 toxics work much better

much much better

[neo93536]

Well if you have a chance I would like to ask you a question.

Im looking to build myself a new gaming pc for about 1000$

just wondering what you would recommend for me to do this.

Thanks ahead of time PCWizKid =)

[PCWizKid]

@neo93536, Hi, thanks, please visit the hardware reviews section of my website for gaming rig configurations

[neo93536]

Alright thanks a bunch.

Love the vids =)

[SteveDFM]

@neo93536 I would recommend it. I built my pc in October of last year, and this thing runs all games on Ultra comfortably. Even Starcraft 2 which has only just been released.

[ShroomSamich]

beast

[donkeyboy2k7]

hi, is this the same as the XFX 4870 XXX 1gb? also could i run XFX 4870XXX1gb in crossfire with an OCZ 700W power supply? thanks

[TheBlitz1]

yes you can run any version of 4870 in crossfire

[mikebingham34]

will a Thermalright Ultra- 120 eXtreme fit into an Antec 300??

[OperiJalgpalliKool]

Can i put HD 4870 to my computer if i have AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+ 2,70 GHz , 4 GB ram , 32 bit oper. system (WINDOWS VISTA HOME BASIC)

[pppt41]

yes..........obviously, u just need a pci express card on ur motherboard........

[OperiJalgpalliKool]

i have a PCI express 2.0

[nelizmastr]

what about your motherboard? you need a PCI-E 2.0 slot. (at least 1.1)

[tehrealkamikaziii]

can i put it on a 1.1??? if yeas what would decrease?? thanks for the help...

[nelizmastr]

yes, and it would decrease performance 5 to 10%, so not too much. (you can OC it to regain performance)

[sidedead92]

I don't think so...cause as pci-e 2 doubles the speed, if you have pci-e 1/1.1 would decrease the performance about 50% and also even if you try to oc the card the mobo will stop you in a limit,that normally a mobo with pci-e 2 wouldn't :/

[nelizmastr]

you say that, but the forums speak different. I looked it up at nvidias forums, and they say its only losing 5-10% performance. not all 2.0 cards use all bandwith usable by 2.0, and only have a bit more than 1.1 can offer. 1.0 is out of the question.

[strangletmuh]

You should hide those powerdvds serial keys ;)

[keffje007]

right:P

[MrSlive3r]

which one is better

4890 Toxic edition 1 GB or evga gtx 275 896 mb ? i have a 19" monitor...

should i buy the standard one...or should i buy the OC version..is there any difference..

i mean i can OC(over clock) the card my self..

or is there any difference between ..standard sapphire 4890..and the toxic edition

[PCWizKid]

@MrSlive3r , they are very close, however at higher resolutions the 4890 overclocked will do better.

[MrSlive3r]

thnx i'll buy the 4890 Toxic edition right now :)

[BigMete0r]

4890 is sure better!

[no1Reality]

@MrSlive3r

for you 19'" monitor Radeon HD4870 or GTX260 JUst fine up to 3years!

[DaBurningLegion]

great card... im getting this !

worth the wait to october :D

[CleverIdi0t]

Would This Setup Run All Games Good?

Amd Phenom 2 X4 955

MSI 790FX-G65

Saphire 4870 1Gb Toxic

6Gb DDR3 1600Mhz

500Gb 7200Rpm

Realpower M620 - 620 Watt - 700 Watt Max

The Res.. I Would Be Yousing Is 1280 x 1024 How Would Crysis Run 2xAA And All Vh?+Cod4 Max And All Modern Games

[Maphistoq]

at 1280*1024 yeah I gues it will.

[Metalheadddddd]

Ofc it will

[786arslan]

that will play the games comin out in the future but you could make it alot better by getting the crossfire but its still good

[WeakPerson]

MSI 790FX-G65 does not exist.... its either 790FX-GD70 or 790GX-G65.

Also, your motherboard and CPU support DUAL CHANNEL memory, so if you plan on getting a triple channel DDR3 kit, youre in trouble.

i also recommend that you get a 750watt power supply because what you have there is probably going to exceed that. If not, it at least affords you ample room for upgrades and would be a long term investment.

your system could definitely manage crysis at 1280x1024 at well over 30 frames

[ninja8745]

i woudl try getting the intel quad core cause i had an amd and it killed my whole mother board after it burned up within a week no overclocking and i had done nothing to it so yea get quad or maybee the i7.

[DaBurningLegion]

1280x1024!?!?!?!

this can run crysis on way higher res than this dude!

[xerius2000]

on that resolution it will run it all on high.

[eddes]

a realy professionall video, good job

[Diedxxxxx]

i am getting new computer with this card. can my psu run two of these cards in crossfire? it's 520w corsair

[Henedoo]

Oh man, I have the Antec Sonata III case which has only a 500W PSU in it.

Is there any way I can run this card with that PSU?

[TheWiiZone]

Easily.

[Henedoo]

So the 550W is really just a recommendation?

[TheWiiZone]

Yeah. The card uses only 183 W at full load.

[Henedoo]

OK, thank you.

[linuxrobotdude]

Only one

[Henedoo]

I'm getting this card for my new computer. I ordered it two days ago.

Other specs: CPU: Athlon 64 X2 7850 Black Edition, RAM: 4GB DDR2 1066MHz.

[whitebuffulo]

Is buying the 4890 toxic worth the extra cash or is the 4890 overclocked pretty much just as good??

[PCWizKid]

@whitebuffulo, the 4890 is just all round faster

[UKFX]

It's not really that much faster to be perfectly honest. It's a high performance card and on a lot of tests the 4890 doesn't stray to far ahead of the 4870. Soemtimes the 4870 pulls a head on some games and resolutions but it all depends. Save yourself a fair sum and get the 4870.

[BiOhArArDvsElement]

Figured as much i just wanted to make it clear, cause someone may think "oh shit i can't do that", when its not the case :)

[zinku418]

I have a 3850. i want to upgrade to this card, but i found out my 3850 has crossfire too, would it hurt my PC to crossfire my 3850 with this 4870? BTW, my 3850 is 512mb Gddr3.

[FragileStaticCircus]

I would use a Radeon 4850 instead of this card.

[zinku418]

but, would i be better off just using the single 4870?

[kassu09]

no u cant crossfire them

[FragileStaticCircus]

the 4870 might work but it might be too much power to be in crossfire with your older 3850.

[lord132]

you cant crossfire 2 different cards, if you want to crossfire then ull need another card of the EXACTLY same model.

[zinku418]

Alrighty. i might just buy 1 of these. if my 3850 can handle cod4, this card should tear it apart.

[lord132]

Yeah, 4870 is a hell of a card

[BiOhArArDvsElement]

Your wrong there, any 4800 series card will run crossfired with any other 4800 card. Its the same for any 3800series and so on

[lord132]

yes, but 4800 will not run paired up with 3800. thts wht i ment

[isthatkeanureeve]

love this card

[kidowner]

this better than the Vapor-X edition?

[mayers000]

oced higher yeah

[kassu09]

diamond xoc black edition is overclocked to 4800mhz :P

[Azer831]

is this better dan EVGA GTS 250 1GB

[gutslicer76]

yes

[abodee1]

can someone please tell me which is better and will it run on this mother board

Sapphire TOXIC HD 4870 - Graphics adapter - Radeon HD 4870 - PCI Express 2.0 x16 - 1 GB GDDR5 - Digital Visual Interface (DVI), HDMI - HDTV out - lite retail

or

BFG GF 9800GTX+ OC 1GB DDR3 PCI-E

and my motherboard is

P6T DELUXE S1366 X58 ATX SND+2XGLN+1394 FSB1600 SATA2R IN

[gutslicer76]

I would get a 4870 because it's faster. And it's getting to be about the same price as the 9800

[abodee1]

alright thanks do you know what is the difference between the toxic version and ummm not toxic version

[gutslicer76]

The toxic version is a little more expensive, but it has quieter, more efficient cooling. It's also slightly overclocked/more overclockable. I, personally, however, would go for the non-toxic edition, seeing as they're down below 150 bucks.

[coolzer069]

have a sapphire 4870 silent efficiency. OC it to 840mhz/ 1000mhz. runs pretty well. goes to 48deg.C idle and 62deg.C at load...

[exelsis2401]

i have the same one did you use the original fan for overclocking or another one?

[Heartagramerz]

ooo nice card :D

[ZthaIncredible]

Is this Card better than the HD4870 Sonic Edition 1GB Palit?

[FrietjeM]

Hey could you make a video for the sapphire Radeon HD 4890 1Gb Toxic Edition, please??

[PCWizKid]

@FrietjeM , I already did, take a look at my video's for it. Cheers

[FrietjeM]

you mean this right : Diamond Radeon HD 4890 XOC - Review ??

[PCWizKid]

Yes that is basically the same thing as the Sapphire

[FrietjeM]

the sapphire toxic??

but some people told me that the 4890 turn hot very fast.... but I thought the toxic edition was different, but it isn't.....???

[Rabbibunny]

In terms of graphic capabilities, unless Sapphire have overclocked theirs, they're practically the same, but not in thermal performance.

I would stick with Sapphire if it's thermal performance you're looking for; there's the Sapphire Atomic, Toxic and Vapor-X 4980.

Bit-tech have done a good review of the Sapphire Radeon HD 4890 1GB Atomic, including thermal performance tests.

[starbock]

can somebody tell me why graphics cards are even neccasserry. i thought the cpus did all the work... why buy a graphics card? thanks..........

[mrh112]

thats the stupidest question ive ever herd lol, the graphics card has ALOT more power than the processor, in fact some gpus take the load off the cpu when things get tough

[starbock]

ah, cool... so if you have a good proccessor like the i7 or x4. and this card paired with it, then your probably gonna have no problems right? Everything will run smooth huh?

[mrh112]

yep pretty much, the graphics card is better though, i mean i have a quad 2.6ghz but a 4870x2 and i can run crysis at like 30 to 60fps, even in my old pc dual core 2.8ghz i can run it at 28 to 50fps, the processor only deals with the gameplay and physics and the graphics card deals with the graphics

[Dudex58]

I wish my card came in blue I got the bee colors, sad face, I wish it had lightning

[R3fLeCt3D]

not a fan of ati more of nvidia=)always some shit happens with ati get cooked or burned which is anoying some times =)

[Recoil121]

Well doesnt that suck Lol, I have had this Saphire Toxic for a year now, guess what runs perfect...

[R3fLeCt3D]

well yeah =) i guess its all about wher it made and if it made poorly then its not gonna work =) and it happend twice with me with ati now i have nvidia and runs perfectly for 1.5 years =)

[LimeSlimez]

thnx alot !!!! i really like the details :)

[FrietjeM]

never mind..... :)

[FrietjeM]

what power do I need to run this card?? (I can get it for €180,- is that expansive??)

[damien345]

lol dont think buying something under a 160 powersuply or it migth just burn your graphics card put more than that and you need at least a 500 watt with dual 6 pin pci-e

[FrietjeM]

at least 500 watt? I want to get one from gigabyte with 550 Watt do you think that will run my pc?

[damien345]

yea of course

[NightStrikeKill]

when i buy 2 of em , can i use crossfire for them ?

[PCWizKid]

Yes you can.

[zorikal1]

ive got the HD 4870 1GB and i only get 20- 30 FPS on crysis, AMD 7750 Black Edition Processor @ 3Ghz. why so low fps :( ? PS all on max 22" monitor whitout AA..

[PCWizKid]

Try running the latest Catalyst 9.5 drivers, also run Crysis in DirectX 10 more not 9.

[FrietjeM]

what is that??

hey what is the difference between HD 4870 toxic and hd 4890 toxic??

[kidowner]

the 4890 is better then the 4870 but it consums more heat

[FrietjeM]

do you think the 4870 will run cry engine 3

[kidowner]

well the 4870 is one of the top end cards of ati so i think it will

[FrietjeM]

I hope so..... do you know when the cry engine comes???

thank you for your quike response!!

[kidowner]

np but i dont know:/ sry

[FrietjeM]

does it matter??

[kidowner]

matter what'?

[shotta2545]

is his a single gpu card?

[xGRUx]

I currently own a XFX 4870 XXX Edition 1GB

the Standard clock for it is 975 but I Oc'ed to 1075mhz

GPU clock is at 780mhz from the 775mhz Standard

Runs smooth and great even in Very high on Crysis, with my current build i get about 25-40Fps Average

and for all of you who own a 4870

switch to manual fan control and set it to 35-60% fan speed depending on how well you deal with the loudness cuz these babys roar!

Mine runs about 55-70c full load depending on speed and if my AC is on. BUY ONE!

[Imperialpownage]

i just bougt it 1 day ago and i can asur you its really a great card of corse you must have a good C2D or quad core and of corse OSx64 to for more performance

tested on team fortress 2 i got 70 fps average with all options on in dustbowl on 32 players server , i think i will make a video test soon :) thanx for the review now im happy to have boght it and sory for my eng

[m0hawk1dwarf]

can i set

Sapphire Radeon HD 4870 1GB in crossfire?

[longliveagp6]

if you have the board to do it :)

[m0hawk1dwarf]

i got :p

[longliveagp6]

well then theres nothing stoping you. The card comes with crossfire bridges if you didn't know, so go for it.

[iOWNu1111]

Hey i have a Powercolor 4870 and the temperatures are around 63 C idle and 71-75 when on full load, You think i could overclock it a bit? the case hasnt got any fans so the airflow isnt great.

[PCWizKid]

you need to turn up the fan rpm if your going to overclock the 4870 , the auto mode doesnt do a very good job.

[iOWNu1111]

oh ok cause the fan is already at 71% so if i overclock it from 770 MHz to 800 MHz and the memory from 900MHz to 1000MHz ill need to increase the fan from 71% to 80%? or more?

[jebus733]

Is there an unoverclocked edition? If not, what other cards would you recomend?

[PCWizKid]

This card is a overclocked edition. It the Toxic edition so its overclockable.

[gerardosaldana1987]

why are you using ati tool...you can overclock from the ati catalyst control center.

[cheezeus420]

I just got this card and it kicks a** thanks for the detailed review made me get this one over the normal one One thing had to move my HDD to get it to fit in the Antec 900 case

[RePuBLiCFB]

There are 2 Version of the Card you maybe have the "Lite Retail" Version like me.The Other Version is the "Full Retail" with this Progs Like 3d Mark included.

The Lite Retail Version Only Has One Cd "The Driver Cd" inculded and the needed Cables included so dont worry its ok so have fun with that nice card ;)

[swinne2]

i bought it and i opened it and i saw i didnt got the dvd suite and 3d markvantage etc. i only got the drivers. Could it be that i didnt got those dvds because i live in belgium??

[RePuBLiCFB]

Nice Card i have it since this week on Furmark unlocked i havent seen Temps over 76 Degress must have Card in Analoge Design!!

[koekjeeee]

Eventhough the cooler is pretty impressive it will still runs about 85 degrees at load.

[scripes]

Thanks. This review was really useful.

[jordler]

4ghz mem clock damn thats fast. this gpu must run very hot .

[queenzortje]

you need 750 at least to crossfire the hd4870, and the 4870 destroys the gtx 260

[inachu]

AGP performs just as good as this video card being presented in this video.

weird..... yes..... I get less lag on my agp in Dalaran(wow) anotehr weird thing yes?

Oh and the pc is intel 1.4gighrtz 3 gig ram 80 gig hard drive Vista sp1 retail not pirate.

[queenzortje]

lol agp isnt faster then pci-e or pci-e 2.0, u are just lieing