@Hdz300 The ship had been seized by the United States in 1941 when America entered the war. It was being held in New York Harbor, where it was being converted into a troop vessel. To that end, a large stack of highly flammable life jackets had been piled in a corner temporarily while cabins were turned into dormitories for soldiers. A fire broke out and in the attempt to extinguish the blaze, the ship capsized due to the vast amount of water poured onto her. She was scrapped afterwards.
Poor Normandie. She deserved a more dignified death than that. Even had she been sunk as a troop ship in WWII, helping fight for freedom, it would've been a more fitting end.
there was a documentary that aired on TLC in the late 90's called "Castles of the Sea"...there is hardly a trace of it on the internet it seems though....its probably my all time favorite documentary. Anyone know it?
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and again another great us achievement,destroying the most beautiful liner that ever crossed the atlantik........well done.....oh no,wait.....that must have been sabotage.....or an accident.....how about INCOMPETENCE AND ABYSMAL STUPIDITY!!!!!
A great tribute. Today marks the anniversary of the death of the the SS Rex and I think of the great losses of the great liners during WWII--Rex, Bremen, and--of course--Normandie.
Each has their own opinion, but--and I am no conspiracy type by nature (I think Oswald did kill JFK)--I believe the mob killed the Normandie to prove they had control of the docks. It is even a greater tragedy than the death of the Rex.
The rivalry between Normandie and Queen Mary was EPIC. They were always racing for the blue ribband and setting transatlantic speed records in the process. Records that stood until 1954 when the SS United States destroyed both the East and Westbound records.
She could have been saved if the Navy had listened to the designer who explained how to sink her partially so she wouldn't capsize. Typical American arrogance sank this ship, coupled of course with the tragedy of war.
If anything, Normandie was TOO beautiful. She was never as popular as Queen Mary because Normandie was like a floating art gallery that overwelmed the passengers, whereas Queen Mary was more traditional and felt like a home to the passengers. It's a disgrace what happened to Normandie. To think such a revolutionary, innovative, and dazzling vessel was destroyed due to sheer stupidity breaks the heart.
@DarthCipient I think it was fires had a lot to do with it as well. How many French Ships caught on fire? There is a reason why the fire protection was something the company was so proud of. The ship was state of the art the fire station. I think the damaged had already been done. People were probably afraid to sail on potential death traps.
@DarthCipient was it stupidity, or greed of another company who might have paid for the fire to start and so, make sure they could retain the blue ribbon after the war?? He he he...
This ship is so stylish in its design. Comparing this ship to other liners in present days, I have found the current design these ship are boring. I hope there will be more stylistic design of ship.
Queen Mary 2 is not dangerously top heavy. She is a modern extremely safe ocean liner that exceeds all SOLAS standards. The Normandie and original Queen Mary are beautiful but could'nt meet modern standards of SOLAS.
You evidently have no idea of liners, and SOLAS, the queen Mary 2 is one exception she was built as a liner, however modern cruise ships wouldn't stand a chance in the conditions these ships faced, all new cruisers, are top heavy, there draft is shortened, and there superstructure heightened. Not to be rude, but SOLAS, mostly deals with Fire equipment, fire accelerant, and the routine checking of safety devices "rafts, preservers, extinguishers,etc" nothing to do with the superstructure.
Modern ships sea keeping abilities have been hindered to a point that whens there's a storm they turn, and run for the nearest land. Please before commenting on a video of a great liner get your facts straight.
Yes they had wood, its more beautiful, however SOLAS, doesn't want woods due to fire, so companies either remove it, or build new. Guaranteed if you would take any one of the old liners out they would out sail a modern box any day!
Has there ever been built a passenger ship with a hall as spacious and as lavish as the Normandie's 1st class dining room? It was so tall! The dramatic ascension towards the smoking room made it all so exceptional!
It's a pity that no such ship can be built again. No place for her in today's market. Even though there are people willing to pay a premium in order not to be packed in the massive cruise ships of today, she could not be made into an cruise ship due to her large draught.
The Normandie was in New York being converted into a troop ship. Around 1,000Lifejackets were put in the 1st Class Dining Room. Sparks from a welding torch being used touched the jackets and the huge fire began. Fire boats then sprayed too much water into the ship causing it to list and topple over.
QM2 Was only top heavy during initial planning. When she was reconstructed as passing panamax size, her widened beam over compensated her height. Her GRT is 150,000 but her deadweight is only 76,000. the QM1 has a displacement of 81,000 meaning if they were both picked up out of the water and placed on scales, QM1 would be heavier than QM2. GRT is only a measurement of the inside spaces of the ship based on metres cubed. QM2's structure is aliminium, rather than solid iron plates like QM1 =)
QM2 Was only top heavy during initial planning. When she was reconstructed as passing panamax size, her widened beam over compensated her height. Her GRT is 150,000 but her deadweight is only 76,000. the QM1 has a displacement of 81,000 meaning if they were both picked up out of the water and placed on scales, QM1 would be heavier than QM2. GRT is only a measurement of the inside spaces of the ship based on metres cubed. QM2's structure is aliminium, rather than solid iron plates like QM1 =)
@Aaron1912 I've always wondered if the "other" company - the one that had held the blue ribbon for so long - had had anything to do with this fire... We all know the power of money, right?
Titanic was well known because it sank killing 1500 people. Had it never sunk it would hardly have been mentioned in the history books of great liners, for one White Star line already intended Gigantic (later Britannic) to be the most luxurious.
And before James Cameron's movie most people did NOT know of the Titanic other than people with education.
Speaking of maritime disasters, the Wilhelm Gustloff sank in 1945 with 9400 germans refugees drowning. Who has heard about that?
their were a bunch of poeple who made movie sont he titanic before james cameron, so clearly people knew it as common sense
the difference between the titanic and your example about 4500 people dieing on some wilhelm gustloff ship, titanic sank during PEACETIME not ina war. thats what made it special
True, but the WIlhelm Gustloff didn't have german soldiers on board but german civilians. I agree it was a war and ships sunk, especially with germans, wasn't seen as big news.
The M/S Estonia sank in 1994 in a storm when its bow visor was torn off and water filled the car decks. 852 people died on that one but have you heard of it?
Also the Dona Paz sank in 1987 (in peacetime) in the Phillipines with perhaps 4500 dead. MV Le Joola sank in 2002 in Senegal with 1863 dead. Peacetime too.
MS al-Salam Boccaccio 98, and egyptian ferry sank in 2006 in the red sea, with over 1000 dead
the reason Titanic is remembered is because it was the biggest,most luxurious ocean liner ever which sank on its maiden voyage, not to mention the rich and famous on it perished as well as the poor
also some newspapers had callied it unsinkable so it was quite a shock when it did sank
there have been plenty of Titanic movies made but kids didn't watch them, until Cameron's love story in 1997
The original Queen Elizabeth in 1938 was even larger. She held the record all the way up to the 1970's, when she was decomissioneed.
In fact the first passenger ship to exceed the 83000 tonnage of the Queen Elizabeth was the Carnival Destiny built in 1996. This means the Queen Elizabeth held the record for nearly 60 years. A large ship indeed.
@randomrazr Yes it was bigger than Titanic,But the TITANIC was the first ship to reach those proportions,every other ship followed.The Titianic is the most famous ship ever apart from noahs ark.
@CaptainSmith23 Well the Olympic did that before the Titanic. Normandie was the first to reach over 1000ft, the first to go faster than 30 knots, the first to have totally uncluttered decks, the first to have a radar, the first to have a modern hydrodynamic hull, the first to have anti-fire measures (sadly the american didn't know how to use them or something didn't work i don't remember), and many other breakthrough...
Arriving in NY harbor. I wonder what the passengers would have thought if they knew what the fucking moslems and their goddamn vile islam would do there on 9/11.
Theres the Normandie Hotel in San Juan,Puerto Rico. The hotel originally opened on October 10, 1942. Its design was inspired by the ocean liner SS Normandie. It features the same art deco design as the ship that inspired it, and the hotel's roof sign is one of the two signs that adorned the top deck of the Normandie but were removed from it during an early refitting. It is a fine example of what came to be known as the Streamline Moderne architecture style.
Rival? Normandie was simply the most elegant luxury liner ever build with it´s famous Art Deco interior. Queen Mary was nothing compared Normandie and it´s elegance.
What a beautiful liner! Too bad she didn't reached the point the Queen Marz did. The Blue Riband was supposed to belong to such a beautifully styled liner like the NORMANDIE!
Just because this stupid idiots! A troopship, what a fuck, shame on US, you destroyed one of the greatest ships ever build....shame shame shame shame you idiots tanks so much shame shame shame IDIOTS!!!!!
you can blame the germen welder who set off the pocket of acetiline for that. And considering that the Norminde would see sending troops to liberate France...well, thats a pritty big "Shame"
you can blame the germen welder who set off the pocket of acetiline for that. And considering that the Norminde would see sending troops to liberate France...well, thats a pritty big "Shame"
Oh , iam so sorry i did not know that it was a germAn who ordered that this ship should be used as a troopship, i kn that it was a germAn who ordered the rebuild as troopship, I kn that it was a german who pumped that much water in it, that it became list and sank.....tard
well, seeing as you are acting like the peverbial 3 year old, I'll take the higher road and just leave this hear.
But I will say this: Nothing you can do will bring that ship back, things happen. as a Troop ship she would have done her service proud to liberate her home country frome the nazis. Saddly she just wasn't meant for it.
i don't only blame the us for what happened, but it was one of the countrys, that stupid, that they selled there souls to companies like coka cola and other fucked up son of a bitch comanies! And this ship was just one of fuckn' many victims of this people who are behind the scenes, yk what i mean?
Yeah,Normandie was an eyegasm.Ships nowadays don't look like ship.They look like wedding cakes built around amusement parks.And their names are asinine;Stately Dry Heaves Of The Seas or whatever Royal Carribbean names theirs.
These transatlantic superliners were designed for speed and comfort. They were the sole tranport between Europe and the US in their day and the fastest/largest ships got the newpaper headlines and top paying passengers. These were ocean liners and NOT cruise ships.
Workmen accoidentally set fire to a pile of lifevests while converting it into a troopship during the second world war. The ship's own fire protection had been disconnected, and fireboats poured in so much water trying to extinguish it, despite warnings from the vessel's designer, that she capsized onto the mud at the bottom of New York Harbour. She was eventually righted, and sold for scrap.
No the Normandie was a snappy roller thanks to her modern hull, meaning that she righted herself quickly in stormy sea. Now the Queen Mary was a roller, especially during rough seas.
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Ok, so Normandie may have been beautiful from the outside, but again its interiors were very brash and passengers complained that they were 'very overpowering' and again Normandie was twice as expensive to sail on than Cunard's Queen Mary and (until 1946) Mauretania (II)
I agree, the Normandie is hands down the most beautiful ship ever built. The Titanic wasn't that great, she she was surpassed in size and beauty by the Imperator in 1913.
The Normandie is widely seen as the most beautiful ocean liner ever. On some video where they praised the class and luxury of the Titanic I wrote:"The Normandie had everything the Titanic had times ten". "The Normandie made the Titanic look like an amateur job by comparison".
The fact is. Had the Titanic never sunk,nobody would have remembered her. Ship enthusiast would still praise Normandie.
Sooo not true. Look at the Aquitania, look at the Imperator! The Aquitania was called the "Ship Beautiful" and for good reason. ships are remembered for their beauty and the Titanic was, in my opinion and in many other's own opinion, the most beautiful ship of them all. She was perfectly balanced, had interiors that were a perfect example of Edwardian Eclectisism and if she wasn't so beautiful she wouldn't be so loved. There are so many ships with horrible endings...
and half of them you won't remember even if I told you and even a number have gone down on their maiden voyage! Yes, the Normandie is beautful and one of my favorites but truth is, the Titanic was the most beautiful and anyways, she's what gets people interested in ships like the Normandie. You wouldn't have half the people commenting on here if it wasn't for her!
Sooo not true. Look at the Aquitania, look at the Imperator! The Aquitania was called the "Ship Beautiful" and for good reason. ships are remembered for their beauty and the Titanic was, in my opinion and in many other's own opinion, the most beautiful ship of them all. She was perfectly balanced, had interiors that were a perfect example of Edwardian Eclectisism and if she wasn't so beautiful she wouldn't be so loved. There are so many ships with horrible endings...
As firefighters on shore and in fire boats poured water on the blaze, the ship developed a dangerous list to port due to the greater amount of water being pumped into the seaward side of the vessel by fireboats. About 2:45 a.m. on 10 February, Lafayette capsized, nearly crushing a fire boat.
The fire started because they wanted change it and make a waar ship, after fire they wanted to renovate it, but it was to expensive and it was scraped.... :D
Ideas included a slanting clipper-like bow and a bulbous forefoot beneath the waterline in combination with a slim hull, a design which worked wonderfully in his scale model. Model tests supported his designs performance advantages. The French engineers were so impressed that they asked Yourkevitch to join their project. Reportedly, Yourkevitch also approached the Cunard Line with his ideas, but was rejected on the grounds that the new bow shape was too radical.
The footage I have shows the Normandie being pulled upright again and tugged out. But the video just ended saying at last she has been salvaged and will go into service again soon. But they didn't show the outcome which was her being later scrapped because of costs.
Slobs-The US barely ready to convert her. Major ignorance on the part of the Navy. The ship's designer begged them to open her sea cocks so she could sink on an even keel, which would have saved her.But the Navy jerks said no, this "was a Navy Job" Stupidly, they flooded her until she capsized. Had she survived, she could have shortened anywhere from 6-12 mos. She was big and fast as the Mary & Elizabeth. One of US' biggest WW2 errors The officer in charge should have been court-martialed
If the war had not happened the French Line was going to replace her engines to make her much faster than the Queen Mary. The Normandie had a better hull than the QM and did not pitch and roll like the QM.
There was a small fire in a pile of life vests which got out of hand. As they attempted to extinguish the blaze, water began to build up in the ship. She eventually rolled, as seen in the video.
She was being refitted in New York by the Americans so that she could serve as a troop ransport I think and there was a fire. Unfortunately she was burned to a cinder and capsized.
They were removing the light-towers in the Grand-Salon with Life-vests filled with kappock surrounding the blow-torch with just one bucket of water near by...
...an accident waiting to happen.The water had been disconnected due to the refit to troup-ship.The designer of the Normandie was on hand and pleaded with the U.S Navy to be allowed on board so he could open the sea-cox...
...(they pumped so much water on board that she developed an alarming list)...if he had been allowed to do this She would have settled on the bottom up-right and would have been easily re-floated.The man in-charge of her refused..."We're the U.S. Navy and we know what we're doing"....such a great loss....so very sad.
You are so right martinmax-sorry I missed this. The powers that be in charge of the salvage operation were ignorant and arrogant. They played a role in setting the war back.
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wait hold on a second did the normandie catch on fire or did it sink IM SOOOOOO CONFUSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hdz300 2 months ago
@Hdz300 The ship had been seized by the United States in 1941 when America entered the war. It was being held in New York Harbor, where it was being converted into a troop vessel. To that end, a large stack of highly flammable life jackets had been piled in a corner temporarily while cabins were turned into dormitories for soldiers. A fire broke out and in the attempt to extinguish the blaze, the ship capsized due to the vast amount of water poured onto her. She was scrapped afterwards.
23Daant 2 months ago
@23Daant thanks! Now i know! Its a weekend but you learn something everyday!
Hdz300 2 months ago
Poor Normandie. She deserved a more dignified death than that. Even had she been sunk as a troop ship in WWII, helping fight for freedom, it would've been a more fitting end.
2ndOfficerCHL 6 months ago
use metric system, get rid of outdated american yards and inches and feet that belong to the dark past.the world is ruled by metrics !
wuppas 6 months ago
Stupid americans :)
Dinozy 6 months ago
It makes me so angry when I see Normandie on fire. Damn US Navy. I HATE them for what they did. I will NEVER forgive!
SuperTitanicfreak 6 months ago
what a shame to losse a great liner! just like the titanic the world had waited for fer but the world soon lost her
gingerbobawsomepants 7 months ago
and it tip on its side and then scraped
man12345mn 8 months ago
there was a documentary that aired on TLC in the late 90's called "Castles of the Sea"...there is hardly a trace of it on the internet it seems though....its probably my all time favorite documentary. Anyone know it?
jdghgh 9 months ago
normandie is french and american
MrTitanic9 9 months ago
WOW IF U PRESS THAT 1911 CRAP IT MAKES IT MORE OLDER THAN SHIT!
nationalcitysycho 10 months ago
It sank like the RMS QE1, exept the Normadie sank to the left, lol.
CRM09ify 10 months ago
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CRM09ify 10 months ago
s.s normandie la france liner
MrTitanic9 10 months ago
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venom3760 11 months ago
If you are interested in the factual story of how the U. S, Navy engaged the help of the NY Syndicate, (Mafia), as a result of this fire visit this site:
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venom3760 11 months ago
i have 2 monel of the normandie
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and again another great us achievement,destroying the most beautiful liner that ever crossed the atlantik........well done.....oh no,wait.....that must have been sabotage.....or an accident.....how about INCOMPETENCE AND ABYSMAL STUPIDITY!!!!!
xLCB1975x 1 year ago
Omelette du fromage. JK Great ship.
nicksmightybeanz4 1 year ago
@nicksmightybeanz4 CHESSE OMELELTTE XD
MrUrfacetacos1 1 year ago
@MrUrfacetacos1 LOL
nicksmightybeanz4 1 year ago
@MrUrfacetacos1 Oui. Omlette du fromage. Oui Oui Oui.
nicksmightybeanz4 1 year ago
The most beautiful passenger liner ever built is the SS Normandie
fillmore593 1 year ago
A great tribute. Today marks the anniversary of the death of the the SS Rex and I think of the great losses of the great liners during WWII--Rex, Bremen, and--of course--Normandie.
Each has their own opinion, but--and I am no conspiracy type by nature (I think Oswald did kill JFK)--I believe the mob killed the Normandie to prove they had control of the docks. It is even a greater tragedy than the death of the Rex.
Hail Normandie!
philco6505 1 year ago
and of course the ship had iceberg detection radar at least 1 month before the british "discovered" radar, the the victors goes history
flvnow 1 year ago
The Grand Dame Normandie. God she was so beautiful. That damn fire was so uncall for. You can thank the US Navy for that.
SuperTitanicfreak 1 year ago
Is the SS Normandy still like that or did she sink FULLY?
thebradybunchlover 1 year ago
Looks like the RMS Queen Mary
thebradybunchlover 1 year ago
The Normandie was beautiful, and probably wouldn't be out of place, updated of course, in today's world
tiadaid 1 year ago
Such a beautiful liner; such a tragic end.
iluvwinterweather 1 year ago
love it!
LedZeppQueenBeatles 1 year ago
The rivalry between Normandie and Queen Mary was EPIC. They were always racing for the blue ribband and setting transatlantic speed records in the process. Records that stood until 1954 when the SS United States destroyed both the East and Westbound records.
phillyslasher 1 year ago
great ship :))
VrhacDeathu 1 year ago
Is the ss normandie still flat on the ground now in 2010????
TheRabbid101 1 year ago
She could have been saved if the Navy had listened to the designer who explained how to sink her partially so she wouldn't capsize. Typical American arrogance sank this ship, coupled of course with the tragedy of war.
gdcat777 1 year ago
@gdcat777 u beeter not be french calling americans arrogant!!!!
TheReformed1 1 year ago
I just hate she had to burn to death, really sucks.
SSGreatEastern 1 year ago
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Beatlesman99 1 year ago
If anything, Normandie was TOO beautiful. She was never as popular as Queen Mary because Normandie was like a floating art gallery that overwelmed the passengers, whereas Queen Mary was more traditional and felt like a home to the passengers. It's a disgrace what happened to Normandie. To think such a revolutionary, innovative, and dazzling vessel was destroyed due to sheer stupidity breaks the heart.
DarthCipient 2 years ago 19
@DarthCipient
Yes, had she not burned down in 1943, I have little doubt she would have served as well as the Queen Mary after WW2.
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
@DarthCipient I think it was fires had a lot to do with it as well. How many French Ships caught on fire? There is a reason why the fire protection was something the company was so proud of. The ship was state of the art the fire station. I think the damaged had already been done. People were probably afraid to sail on potential death traps.
sams0n1 1 year ago
@DarthCipient was it stupidity, or greed of another company who might have paid for the fire to start and so, make sure they could retain the blue ribbon after the war?? He he he...
gusneaker 4 months ago
@gusneaker It could be. I wouldn't rule that out.
DarthCipient 4 months ago
@DarthCipient
i couldnt agree more
kmk5001 3 weeks ago
This ship is so stylish in its design. Comparing this ship to other liners in present days, I have found the current design these ship are boring. I hope there will be more stylistic design of ship.
tkhwong2005 2 years ago
True. I agree. Nothing beats the Normandie for class and looks.
McLarenMercedes 2 years ago
its a really really a shame she caught fire and capsized!! imagine she could have been a floating hotel or museum something more honorable
Ourumov66 2 years ago 3
esse navio é ingles ou frances??
blackpeacock9 2 years ago
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Ramonxu87 2 years ago
Haha what happend to it? Did it burn up? haha :P Kinda funny
Bonaqua1337 2 years ago
Queen Mary 2 is not dangerously top heavy. She is a modern extremely safe ocean liner that exceeds all SOLAS standards. The Normandie and original Queen Mary are beautiful but could'nt meet modern standards of SOLAS.
lasuvidaboy 2 years ago 2
You evidently have no idea of liners, and SOLAS, the queen Mary 2 is one exception she was built as a liner, however modern cruise ships wouldn't stand a chance in the conditions these ships faced, all new cruisers, are top heavy, there draft is shortened, and there superstructure heightened. Not to be rude, but SOLAS, mostly deals with Fire equipment, fire accelerant, and the routine checking of safety devices "rafts, preservers, extinguishers,etc" nothing to do with the superstructure.
SSUnitedStateslife 2 years ago
directed at lasuvidaboy
Modern ships sea keeping abilities have been hindered to a point that whens there's a storm they turn, and run for the nearest land. Please before commenting on a video of a great liner get your facts straight.
SSUnitedStateslife 2 years ago
Yes they had wood, its more beautiful, however SOLAS, doesn't want woods due to fire, so companies either remove it, or build new. Guaranteed if you would take any one of the old liners out they would out sail a modern box any day!
SSUnitedStateslife 2 years ago
Has there ever been built a passenger ship with a hall as spacious and as lavish as the Normandie's 1st class dining room? It was so tall! The dramatic ascension towards the smoking room made it all so exceptional!
It's a pity that no such ship can be built again. No place for her in today's market. Even though there are people willing to pay a premium in order not to be packed in the massive cruise ships of today, she could not be made into an cruise ship due to her large draught.
egpetridis 2 years ago
I think that Queen mary is bigger
Pure7331 2 years ago
no normandie is bigger
GKG33 2 years ago
The Queen Elizabeth was bigger.
McLarenMercedes 2 years ago
was this bigger then titanic?
randomrazr 2 years ago 2
Yes.
Titanic was 882 feet long.
Normandie was 1,029 feet long
Titanic weighed 46,000 tons
Normandie weighed 83,000 tons
Aaron1912 2 years ago 3
wow thats big lol
how about the queen mary 2?
and what started the fire on the normandie?
randomrazr 2 years ago
The Queen Mary 2
Length: 1,132 feet long
Weight: 148,500 tons
(Dangerously Top Heavy)
The Normandie was in New York being converted into a troop ship. Around 1,000Lifejackets were put in the 1st Class Dining Room. Sparks from a welding torch being used touched the jackets and the huge fire began. Fire boats then sprayed too much water into the ship causing it to list and topple over.
Aaron1912 2 years ago
wow that, that just sucks lol.
i take it the shipp was pretty much a total loss and scraped?
the RMS aquiatania, smaller i would assume?
lifejackets must have been very flamaable at the time lol
u said the QM2 was top over, so, queen mary 2 can end up like the posiedon movie? LOL
randomrazr 2 years ago
QM2 Was only top heavy during initial planning. When she was reconstructed as passing panamax size, her widened beam over compensated her height. Her GRT is 150,000 but her deadweight is only 76,000. the QM1 has a displacement of 81,000 meaning if they were both picked up out of the water and placed on scales, QM1 would be heavier than QM2. GRT is only a measurement of the inside spaces of the ship based on metres cubed. QM2's structure is aliminium, rather than solid iron plates like QM1 =)
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QM2 Was only top heavy during initial planning. When she was reconstructed as passing panamax size, her widened beam over compensated her height. Her GRT is 150,000 but her deadweight is only 76,000. the QM1 has a displacement of 81,000 meaning if they were both picked up out of the water and placed on scales, QM1 would be heavier than QM2. GRT is only a measurement of the inside spaces of the ship based on metres cubed. QM2's structure is aliminium, rather than solid iron plates like QM1 =)
tyrone3005 7 months ago
@Aaron1912 I've always wondered if the "other" company - the one that had held the blue ribbon for so long - had had anything to do with this fire... We all know the power of money, right?
gusneaker 4 months ago
why do people always think Titanic was the biggest ocean liner ever?
it was overtaken in lenght and size many times over in the 1910's, 20's and 30's
the german ocean liner SS Imperator in 1913 was already bigger than Titanic as was the SS Vaterland in 1914
McLarenMercedes 2 years ago
because titanic is well known and looked BIG
titanic may not have been the largest ship ever but it was one of the most luxurious ships ever built.
honestly if u randomly asked someone on the street what titanic wass, they would know, big ship, sank case of iceberg etc etc
but if u go around asking what the ss imperator or vaterland was, like no ones knows.
randomrazr 2 years ago
Titanic was well known because it sank killing 1500 people. Had it never sunk it would hardly have been mentioned in the history books of great liners, for one White Star line already intended Gigantic (later Britannic) to be the most luxurious.
And before James Cameron's movie most people did NOT know of the Titanic other than people with education.
Speaking of maritime disasters, the Wilhelm Gustloff sank in 1945 with 9400 germans refugees drowning. Who has heard about that?
McLarenMercedes 2 years ago
their were a bunch of poeple who made movie sont he titanic before james cameron, so clearly people knew it as common sense
the difference between the titanic and your example about 4500 people dieing on some wilhelm gustloff ship, titanic sank during PEACETIME not ina war. thats what made it special
randomrazr 2 years ago
True, but the WIlhelm Gustloff didn't have german soldiers on board but german civilians. I agree it was a war and ships sunk, especially with germans, wasn't seen as big news.
The M/S Estonia sank in 1994 in a storm when its bow visor was torn off and water filled the car decks. 852 people died on that one but have you heard of it?
Also the Dona Paz sank in 1987 (in peacetime) in the Phillipines with perhaps 4500 dead. MV Le Joola sank in 2002 in Senegal with 1863 dead. Peacetime too.
McLarenMercedes 2 years ago
MS al-Salam Boccaccio 98, and egyptian ferry sank in 2006 in the red sea, with over 1000 dead
the reason Titanic is remembered is because it was the biggest,most luxurious ocean liner ever which sank on its maiden voyage, not to mention the rich and famous on it perished as well as the poor
also some newspapers had callied it unsinkable so it was quite a shock when it did sank
there have been plenty of Titanic movies made but kids didn't watch them, until Cameron's love story in 1997
McLarenMercedes 2 years ago
yes i totally agree with you. titanic was just something special that had many reasons why people remmember it more then any other disaster.
other tthen modern day ships, were their any other ships larger then the normadie? it looks really big lol
randomrazr 2 years ago
The original Queen Elizabeth in 1938 was even larger. She held the record all the way up to the 1970's, when she was decomissioneed.
In fact the first passenger ship to exceed the 83000 tonnage of the Queen Elizabeth was the Carnival Destiny built in 1996. This means the Queen Elizabeth held the record for nearly 60 years. A large ship indeed.
McLarenMercedes 2 years ago
@randomrazr Yes it was bigger than Titanic,But the TITANIC was the first ship to reach those proportions,every other ship followed.The Titianic is the most famous ship ever apart from noahs ark.
CaptainSmith23 5 months ago
@CaptainSmith23 Well the Olympic did that before the Titanic. Normandie was the first to reach over 1000ft, the first to go faster than 30 knots, the first to have totally uncluttered decks, the first to have a radar, the first to have a modern hydrodynamic hull, the first to have anti-fire measures (sadly the american didn't know how to use them or something didn't work i don't remember), and many other breakthrough...
Peace7Maker 3 days ago
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GKG33 2 years ago
Arriving in NY harbor. I wonder what the passengers would have thought if they knew what the fucking moslems and their goddamn vile islam would do there on 9/11.
moslemssuck 2 years ago
I wonder, hadn't she caught fire, would she still have been with us today, would she have been preserved? Who'd want to scrap such a grand ship?
majaorca100 2 years ago
She probably would have been permanently docked and turned into a hotel like the Queen Mary. The question is where?
hop208 2 years ago
Theres the Normandie Hotel in San Juan,Puerto Rico. The hotel originally opened on October 10, 1942. Its design was inspired by the ocean liner SS Normandie. It features the same art deco design as the ship that inspired it, and the hotel's roof sign is one of the two signs that adorned the top deck of the Normandie but were removed from it during an early refitting. It is a fine example of what came to be known as the Streamline Moderne architecture style.
The Hotel still open to this day.
the13joker 2 years ago
A strong rival against Queen Mary.
CunardProductions94 2 years ago
Rival? Normandie was simply the most elegant luxury liner ever build with it´s famous Art Deco interior. Queen Mary was nothing compared Normandie and it´s elegance.
GBOY69GAY 2 years ago 2
cest koi la 1er chancon rpd svp !!
45jor 2 years ago
a travest y that such a beautiful liner with her grace and style had to come to an end so early because of incompetence
simon190uk 2 years ago
What a beautiful liner! Too bad she didn't reached the point the Queen Marz did. The Blue Riband was supposed to belong to such a beautifully styled liner like the NORMANDIE!
MCOvronnaz 2 years ago
It's really a shame on what happened to the Normandie.
TitanicExpert 2 years ago
Just because this stupid idiots! A troopship, what a fuck, shame on US, you destroyed one of the greatest ships ever build....shame shame shame shame you idiots tanks so much shame shame shame IDIOTS!!!!!
kennesy 2 years ago
i agree thats like ruining the stute of libertywhat a nice way to thank france for lady liberty by burning the normandie fuck them
thetitanicadventure4 2 years ago
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you can blame the germen welder who set off the pocket of acetiline for that. And considering that the Norminde would see sending troops to liberate France...well, thats a pritty big "Shame"
watch where you throw insults.
TheRailroadwolf 2 years ago
you can blame the germen welder who set off the pocket of acetiline for that. And considering that the Norminde would see sending troops to liberate France...well, thats a pritty big "Shame"
watch where you throw insults.
TheRailroadwolf 2 years ago
Oh , iam so sorry i did not know that it was a germAn who ordered that this ship should be used as a troopship, i kn that it was a germAn who ordered the rebuild as troopship, I kn that it was a german who pumped that much water in it, that it became list and sank.....tard
kennesy 2 years ago
well, seeing as you are acting like the peverbial 3 year old, I'll take the higher road and just leave this hear.
But I will say this: Nothing you can do will bring that ship back, things happen. as a Troop ship she would have done her service proud to liberate her home country frome the nazis. Saddly she just wasn't meant for it.
TheRailroadwolf 2 years ago
to liberate her home from the nazis,,,well i think you don't know anything about the war or? from where are you Mr. respect each others opinion?
kennesy 2 years ago
Don't just blame the US for what happened.
TitanicExpert 2 years ago
i don't only blame the us for what happened, but it was one of the countrys, that stupid, that they selled there souls to companies like coka cola and other fucked up son of a bitch comanies! And this ship was just one of fuckn' many victims of this people who are behind the scenes, yk what i mean?
kennesy 2 years ago 2
What the Name of the Jazzsong at 1:18??I love it! Typically 30s
bushoisa 3 years ago
I Just posted a newsreel from 1944 that had the fire as the lead story.
Wikipedia has a good article on "SS Normandie" too.
historyvideos101 3 years ago
He sank because he was full of the water used in order to stop fire.
WillemDawex 3 years ago
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Thats QUEEN MARY=D
JonasgXD 3 years ago
She was drop dead gorgeous as a ship, just compare her to the minger designs we have afloat nowadays!
1D84down 3 years ago 3
Yeah,Normandie was an eyegasm.Ships nowadays don't look like ship.They look like wedding cakes built around amusement parks.And their names are asinine;Stately Dry Heaves Of The Seas or whatever Royal Carribbean names theirs.
exeuroweenie 2 years ago 3
ROFLOL!!! Yes, I agree 100%! The MV Royal Pain, RMS Queen Foraday and the SS Moronic will likely be leaving sailing in the near future!
wdunklin1 2 years ago 2
These transatlantic superliners were designed for speed and comfort. They were the sole tranport between Europe and the US in their day and the fastest/largest ships got the newpaper headlines and top paying passengers. These were ocean liners and NOT cruise ships.
lasuvidaboy 3 years ago 4
in other words luxury ferries
dannyman1995 3 years ago
A masterpiece of craftmanship and art.
exaudi33 3 years ago
Its got to be said the she is probably the most Beautiful ship EVER created. Its SO unfortunate she caught fire :(
Paddy3443 3 years ago
wait i have one question at 1:56 she is on fire am i right. SHe is starting to capsize i dont kow can any of you tell me whats hapening
cwag123 3 years ago
Normandie caught fire at her pier in NY in Feb. 1942 as she was being converted into a troopship that was to have been called "Lafayette."
elsa425 3 years ago
my great grandad has work on it, very luck ! she s the most beautiful liner of all times
karlos76600 3 years ago
Best looking ocean liner of all time. The sleek lines and art deco design made it stand out.
The Queen Mary was faster, but who cares for speed on an oceal liner?
McLarenMercedes 3 years ago
@McLarenMercedes
Who cares for speed on an ocean liner?
At the time? Almost anyone who travelled on them. It wasn't an alternative to a damn supersonic plane.
WJPCIII 1 year ago
why did it catch fire and sink?
Titanicfreak9 3 years ago
lifejackets caught fire or something along those lines.
kikddabottle 3 years ago
Workmen accoidentally set fire to a pile of lifevests while converting it into a troopship during the second world war. The ship's own fire protection had been disconnected, and fireboats poured in so much water trying to extinguish it, despite warnings from the vessel's designer, that she capsized onto the mud at the bottom of New York Harbour. She was eventually righted, and sold for scrap.
BamBogleBlaster 3 years ago
SS Normandie
Kastius62 3 years ago
What cheerful music (the irony is devastating)!
nedsparks 3 years ago
Well at least American business men diden't have to cash their stocks in order to be able to afford to buy a ticket to sail on the Queen Mary
chrisr19897 3 years ago
No the Normandie was a snappy roller thanks to her modern hull, meaning that she righted herself quickly in stormy sea. Now the Queen Mary was a roller, especially during rough seas.
Chiswick2 3 years ago
There was a lot of vibration at her stern thanks to her 'modern hull'. There was less vibration on Queen Mary.
CunardProductions94 3 years ago
Actually Queen Mary suffered from vibration early in her career as well.
phoenix1985 3 years ago
I said less vibration than SS Normandie
CunardProductions94 3 years ago
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Normandie was a 'roller'.
CunardProductions94 4 years ago
What is the last song called? And who is it by?
Chiswick2 4 years ago
nice ship
staberv8 4 years ago 3
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Ok, so Normandie may have been beautiful from the outside, but again its interiors were very brash and passengers complained that they were 'very overpowering' and again Normandie was twice as expensive to sail on than Cunard's Queen Mary and (until 1946) Mauretania (II)
chrisr19897 4 years ago
The Normandie was comparatively priced as the Queen Mary, she was not twice as expensive.
phoenix1985 3 years ago
I agree, the Normandie is hands down the most beautiful ship ever built. The Titanic wasn't that great, she she was surpassed in size and beauty by the Imperator in 1913.
Chiswick2 4 years ago 3
SS Imperator wasn't as graceful as RMS Titanic. But I would prefer SS Normandie, SS France, RMS Queen Elizabeth 2 and RMS Queen Mary 2.
CunardProductions94 4 years ago
I just can't choose which liner I like the most, there were all magnificent, both on the inside and the outside.
majaorca100 3 years ago 3
My favorite is the SS Normandie with the RMS Empress of Britain a close second. But they were all very beautiful, just in different ways.
phoenix1985 3 years ago 3
Very true.
The Empress of Britain was a real beauty too :)
majaorca100 3 years ago
I agree with the first three ones, but the QM2 is simply a misproportioned disaster...
LeonhardMunich 3 years ago 2
shut up you bickering nannies they where all great ships
antipike 4 years ago
The Normandie is widely seen as the most beautiful ocean liner ever. On some video where they praised the class and luxury of the Titanic I wrote:"The Normandie had everything the Titanic had times ten". "The Normandie made the Titanic look like an amateur job by comparison".
The fact is. Had the Titanic never sunk,nobody would have remembered her. Ship enthusiast would still praise Normandie.
McLarenMercedes 4 years ago 3
Sooo not true. Look at the Aquitania, look at the Imperator! The Aquitania was called the "Ship Beautiful" and for good reason. ships are remembered for their beauty and the Titanic was, in my opinion and in many other's own opinion, the most beautiful ship of them all. She was perfectly balanced, had interiors that were a perfect example of Edwardian Eclectisism and if she wasn't so beautiful she wouldn't be so loved. There are so many ships with horrible endings...
BCraven04 4 years ago
and half of them you won't remember even if I told you and even a number have gone down on their maiden voyage! Yes, the Normandie is beautful and one of my favorites but truth is, the Titanic was the most beautiful and anyways, she's what gets people interested in ships like the Normandie. You wouldn't have half the people commenting on here if it wasn't for her!
BCraven04 4 years ago
Sooo not true. Look at the Aquitania, look at the Imperator! The Aquitania was called the "Ship Beautiful" and for good reason. ships are remembered for their beauty and the Titanic was, in my opinion and in many other's own opinion, the most beautiful ship of them all. She was perfectly balanced, had interiors that were a perfect example of Edwardian Eclectisism and if she wasn't so beautiful she wouldn't be so loved. There are so many ships with horrible endings...
BCraven04 4 years ago
What is the title on the second and the third song?
Paal1994 4 years ago
Louise
Sarawaki
Aaron1912 4 years ago
Thanks:)
Paal1994 4 years ago
2:15 = WTF HAPPENED?
MajorCee 4 years ago
The fire boats didn't know when to stop, so all that water inside her made her list.
Aaron1912 4 years ago
As firefighters on shore and in fire boats poured water on the blaze, the ship developed a dangerous list to port due to the greater amount of water being pumped into the seaward side of the vessel by fireboats. About 2:45 a.m. on 10 February, Lafayette capsized, nearly crushing a fire boat.
xxsimayixx 4 years ago
there is art work at my local musuem from the normandie:D
titanic7grl 4 years ago
jeez She was gigantic! a real shame those idiots stripped her down and sank her
srvfan454 4 years ago
The fire started because they wanted change it and make a waar ship, after fire they wanted to renovate it, but it was to expensive and it was scraped.... :D
Spaanietis111 4 years ago
Ideas included a slanting clipper-like bow and a bulbous forefoot beneath the waterline in combination with a slim hull, a design which worked wonderfully in his scale model. Model tests supported his designs performance advantages. The French engineers were so impressed that they asked Yourkevitch to join their project. Reportedly, Yourkevitch also approached the Cunard Line with his ideas, but was rejected on the grounds that the new bow shape was too radical.
xxsimayixx 4 years ago
Why she caught fire?
xxsimayixx 4 years ago
What a clipper hull!
xxsimayixx 4 years ago
Really.She would have been Queen Mary but British rejected the plans of the ship because it would break their tradition.
xxsimayixx 4 years ago
Never has there been such a ship. She was the height of design and style.Thanks for putting this together.
5normandie 4 years ago 2
No they didn't, by the time the Normandie was righted and salvaged she was no longer need and was sold for scrap.
Chiswick2 4 years ago
The footage I have shows the Normandie being pulled upright again and tugged out. But the video just ended saying at last she has been salvaged and will go into service again soon. But they didn't show the outcome which was her being later scrapped because of costs.
Aaron1912 4 years ago
That was the most beautiful ship EVER built. I love this magnificent ship. Her demise was so sad.
mpug2 4 years ago 6
They did manage to salvage her hull, and used it to make another ship for the war
Aaron1912 4 years ago
What a beautiful ship. Fire on board? Slobs or sabotage?
The Hindenburg explosion and this. Great disasters from the days of real luxury.
MisterChandu 4 years ago
Slobs-The US barely ready to convert her. Major ignorance on the part of the Navy. The ship's designer begged them to open her sea cocks so she could sink on an even keel, which would have saved her.But the Navy jerks said no, this "was a Navy Job" Stupidly, they flooded her until she capsized. Had she survived, she could have shortened anywhere from 6-12 mos. She was big and fast as the Mary & Elizabeth. One of US' biggest WW2 errors The officer in charge should have been court-martialed
1814Brandan 4 years ago
I love the part right around 0:48
BCraven040 4 years ago
1:11 is all i have to say
beserker1912 4 years ago
What a beautiful ship she was. Incredible image of her on her side,though.
vargas37 4 years ago 2
I love this liner.
As it is sad that Normandy is not present more.
ivpspburg 4 years ago
Definately the most beautiful ship ever built.. such a shame she was destroyed.
rtayl 4 years ago 2
If the war had not happened the French Line was going to replace her engines to make her much faster than the Queen Mary. The Normandie had a better hull than the QM and did not pitch and roll like the QM.
Chiswick3 4 years ago
She could have had such a long career. It's sad what happened to Normandie.
jjarchit 4 years ago
There was a small fire in a pile of life vests which got out of hand. As they attempted to extinguish the blaze, water began to build up in the ship. She eventually rolled, as seen in the video.
nenxe 4 years ago
She was being refitted in New York by the Americans so that she could serve as a troop ransport I think and there was a fire. Unfortunately she was burned to a cinder and capsized.
1982F170 4 years ago
They were removing the light-towers in the Grand-Salon with Life-vests filled with kappock surrounding the blow-torch with just one bucket of water near by...
martinmax69 4 years ago
...an accident waiting to happen.The water had been disconnected due to the refit to troup-ship.The designer of the Normandie was on hand and pleaded with the U.S Navy to be allowed on board so he could open the sea-cox...
martinmax69 4 years ago
...(they pumped so much water on board that she developed an alarming list)...if he had been allowed to do this She would have settled on the bottom up-right and would have been easily re-floated.The man in-charge of her refused..."We're the U.S. Navy and we know what we're doing"....such a great loss....so very sad.
martinmax69 4 years ago
You are so right martinmax-sorry I missed this. The powers that be in charge of the salvage operation were ignorant and arrogant. They played a role in setting the war back.
1814Brandan 4 years ago 2
Sorry, I ment to say the QM2 is not as impressive as I thought it would be.