there were no aircraft you idiots....the media was 100% in on it..watch...MOSSAD CAUGHT IN VAN ON 9-11 "FILLED WITH EXPLOSIVES" GW BRIDGE. learn more real truth from Myron Fagan speech, cfr in america and a speech by Benjamin Freedman at the willard hotel.
I can't believe that these two video masturbaters have generated this much traffic. And Steven Jones is treated like a fool. Planet Earth. Yep. Makes sense.
Search for Steven E Jones article: "Geo-Fusion and Cold Nucleosynthesis". Steven E Jones is among the U.S. funded researchers of the same technology that was used to bring down the World Trade Center in a virtual cloud of dust, it was not thermite nor any one of the superior forms of it. Steven E Jones doesn't want you to know that it was a cold nucleosynthesis and that he is one of the experts on the subject. Was he involved in the conspiracy?
I appreciate the portions of your video in which you analyze evidence, but unfortunately you decided to spend most of your commentary in the video attacking Jones and appealing to authority.
Please, stick to the evidence (if you want "deniers" to pay attention.)
As for there being no scientists or engineers speaking up about 911, many are afraid of getting kicked out of their faculty like Dr. Jones was but there are foreign scientists and engineers who are perfectly certain that WTC7 was a CD, including two emeritus professors of a Swiss university. Debunkernuts suck Dubya's Dck!
Maybe the real value of Steven Jones is his address to the 911 Report, which has been consistently dismissed as fraudulent by most top fire investigation experts such as (Fire Engineering editor)Bill Manning, (former NIST fire research director)Dr. Quintiere, etc. A few experts such as Jones argue the possibility of a big govt conspiracy killing our citizens, but many experts argue a conspiracy took place, that probably involved covering up insufficient fire insulation was used.
2. None of the scientists claimed that nano-thermite brought down the towers (they speculate it played a role).
3. The scientists limited themselves to proving the existence of unreacted and reacted incendiaries (particularly nano-thermite) throughout the dust samples collected from the disaster site.
This is disinformation. Dr. Jones doesn't claim that the nano-thermite brought down the entire structure... he is reporting that nano-thermite was found in the building. The most likely scenario is that both nano-thermite and conventional explosives were used. They used nano-thermite when they re-did the fireproofing of the building in the year prior to 9-11 around the impact zone. They initiated the collpase with nano thermite because it wasn't an explosive then used explosives asitcollapsd
Weak video--does not get the science right and the thermite demonstration actually contradicts your point. Thermite is an incendiary that can cut through steel, and that is exactly what we see it doing in the demonstration. The computer ends up with a hole burned in the case!
Also, this video is very out of date. There have been many developments since that show Jones' research to be accurate.
There are many other questions related to Steven E Jones - some of which are raised in Dr Eugene Mallove's Book "Fire from Ice" (1991) about the Cold Fusion Cover up - Jones is mentioned on 100 pages.
You stupid Jerk-off liars - Reacted Thermite IS molten Iron retards. Also: Note that Dr. Jones mentions Thermate not Thermite. You should get your facts straight. The evidence he presents is compelling to any real scientist.
You guy's don't really believe that Stephen Jones would be afraid to debate you two on any scientific issue do you? I mean, that was just a comeback to throw out there for the sake of saying something right? I'm not a truther but I do know that the man knows more about science when he's staggering to the toilet at 3:00a.m. to piss than you guy's know period. Find me one negative comment about Dr. Jones before 911 that he's a poor scientist and I'll pay $100.00. It has to be written prior 911.
Jones is not a scientist, nor is he an engineer. His most popular paper before 9/11 was that he had proof that Jesus Christ had visited North America before he died. Ya, he's real reliable
Who are these boneheads? And what are they talking about that Jones had a peer Review done by the 911 truth movement? That wouldn't be a peer review you jackass. This is one reason I believe much of what Dr. Jones say's. The only people who try to discredit are morons on the internet. I never see Dr. Jones on any talk shows. They only pick the screwballs with wild theories and try to bunch anyone else who disputes NIST and FEMA in with them. I want to see one face to face debate with Dr. Jones.
Thermate is used as a shape charge. Note the massive heat. Oxygen accelerates this combustion.
A shaped charge could cut through large steel I beams, and support combustion for weeks underground, where it would be deprived of much oxygen. 9/11 anyone?
You think people in authority are going to back Stephen Jones up? Why? They have everything to lose, and so does their boss, all the way up the line.
Steve Jones is a government shill. He's out to lead the 9/11 movement to false conclusions that will help to discredit it. He's very deceitful.
Watch "9/11 Eyewitnesses" and stick with basic free-fall and Newtonian physics to provide your irrefutable proof that 9/11 was a government operation.
You don't need to prove what KIND of explosives or incendiary materials were used. Once you've applied physics to prove the government is lying about 9/11, you have established there's a conspiracy.
Yeah, I totally put an "I" where an "A" should be, I made such a huge mistake. Not nearly as large as Jones offering a theory so flawed that structural engineers in his own university have told him so, but whatever. I know what Jones is arguing (the catastrophic "a vs. i" argument aside) and he's produced ZERO to back him up. He didn't then, he still hasn't. You can claim Elvis is underneath your bed, but if you don't back it up, it's just ravings from a nutjob.
That is the underlying argument: if the 9/11 Truth Movement is obviously right and their findings are based on so much irrefutable evidence, why have zero (0) papers been submitted for legitimate (the department the paper deals with) peer-review at any university? If the movement is so obviously right, why are they afraid of submitting their findings to honest academic scrutiny?
the real question magnes is why do you think you know what your talkin about? lol, i mean lets be real, you just suggested that there are NO scientific papaer submitted and peer reviewed in scientific journals. steve jones; the very guy from this video, has allready submitted 3 papers, they were ALL reviewed (by 3 instead of the usual 2 peers) and ALL agreed, only one slighlty less. so you need to KNOW what you are talkin about before you pretend to know and someone calls your bluff. peace
And who were they reviewed by? It wasn't the STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING faculty(or any engineering faculty for that matter) at BYU. Do you know why? Because the structural engineering department looked at the paper anyway and said his hypothesis (the basis of any scientific paper) was flawed. Write a paper in History and have the Math department review it, basically that's what he did. Everything else he's done has been through the 9/11 truther journal (and we know how respectable THAT is).
oh we KNOW how respectable that is? i dont, do you honestly? lol. anyway know he submitted them to the proper places, 3 of them. go find it yourself, im not interested in waking skeptics up. catch up or get left behind, knowledge is power. good luck.
The 9/11 truth journal was created for the sole purpose/agenda of proving the 9/11 conspiracy. It's basically a "academic journal" where everyone in the process automatically agree on what the "truth" is. It's the same as submitting an academic paper to your best friend (who already agrees with you), not exactly objective.
Doing a paper on structural engineering and submitting it to another department isn't honest and it's not educational.
who cares about the 911 journal. jones put his papaer into accredited scientific journals and was peer reviewed, thats the point. to find out which ones put your research skills to the test. you have to realize that (im not calling the 911 journal this cuz i dont know it) there are liars and shills on all sides of this topic. thats to be expected of such an important event. there are liars on the "truther" side. thats why im on the truth side not the truther side, understand? fema and nist;liars
Jones' hypothesis/"research" is so vulnerable, you could drive a truck through it. He bases his thermite argument on "sulfur" (found in drywall) and "iron oxide" (found in almost everything else in the office), but completely ignores that thermite would have produced a burning cloud of hazardous air within the building (which was absent, according to all who entered the building). So two pieces of the puzzle are there, but the third part isn't, but Jones doesn't mention that. How convenient.
first of all i dont want to debate you. especially when i can see you dont know this topic but act like you do. YOU dont know jones argument. you dont even know where to find it i bet. so how do you think you know what your talkin about? its thermAte not thermite that jones talks about, ok? so go find his argument, read it (lol), THEN strat to try and form an opinion.
His work has never been into "accredited scientific journal and has NEVER been peer reviewed, his own University that he worked for released a statement disagreeing with his view and put him on leave. I'll send the clip of him saying he's never been peer reviewed to you mailbox right now.
Yeah his own university (I use this term lightly), run by a religion that claims to have "The Truth"(tm) asked him to resign, despite his tenure, because he was costing them federal funding. What buncha pimps and federal serfs.
So much for Tenure being a stalwart against politicized and religicized truth. PS You can find his peer reviewed papers, many of them, if you know how to search actual scientific literature - to hell with your "clip"
the only actual peer reviewed journal that would publish him is Bentham, an open access journal, it's a pay and play journal, and he got to hand pick his review board
well here's a fact, Bentham doesn't peer review. They were caught accepting fake papers. So we have no idea if it was put into peer review. Other than that there are multiple problems with his research. Such as the energy content being to high, exponentially. The keV not matching that of thermite. The fact that all the elements found in the chips is exactly the same as the primer paint in WTC. Contamination is a big factor. Yadyadayadayada.
Totally agree, there is lots of sound evidence but if these @%$^%^$ people want to look at the little facts, that don't even disprove a thing, just cloud the truth with skepticism, then fine, stay ignorant in your flocks.
they may be shills though lol, low level shills gettin paid $8.50 hr! lol. anyway, its sad but i have moved onto the "fine, good luck with that buddy" stage. no more wakin people up, knowledge is a gift and these people will spit at you for offering it. i just use mine to prepare for whats coming sooner then later, and all these fucked up 911 born anti-constitutional laws and wars. btw jones is most likely a shill, have you found out yet? he may be lookin at us like pieces of meat instead of men
now, a fire can only reach temperatures of up to 1200 degrees F. so the fire could not possibly melt the columbs bacause fire will never become hotter than its own temperature.
it would be better if you actually look things up for yourself, really.
@911MmRy the center columns were designed to hold up the weight of the towers.. its the reason they are standing in the first place. The planes are not to blame for destroying enough columns to bring the building down. So, if the building had to fall due to failing columns, what made them fail? It is true the fire could NOT have been hot enough to weaken/melt the columns to the point of failure. Then what made them fail?
chad-the problem was that the fire was fueled by kerosene and they suggest that it warped the steel. but in that case a slightyl symmetircal almost free fall speed collapse is very unlikey to happen, espcially three times in the same day people! EVEN if WARPED, they can NOT (then) explain the molten pools of metal in the basement that were clocked at over 1000 deg hotter (2800F!!)then the incinduary point of kerosene. jet fuel could NOT have done this. it was a third factor, thermAte anyone?
actually it was thermate. (of course stronger than thermite) jones never said that it would melt the entire building, but rather used to melt the columbs of the building, making it to be a CONTROLED DEMOLITION.
well, steel melts at 2750 degrees F. this can only occur like in some sort of blast furnice or using thermite. haha. so what's the mystery there?
@911MmRy agt 50% strength failer, there WUD NOT be free fall. or perhaps you can explain that 2? but wait a min. what about building #7? what do u say happned on that?
jones never said that thermite was used to blow up buildings. and if you compare the pc with the twin towers...it had the same effect...the smoke was white and the fire was burning red.
it was just a matter of time before all the truther haters would have no legs to stand on, as i figured. at this point if they want to defect to our side it would be wise. no hard feelings, i mean if you were just showing healthy skepticism that is. the fruits of wickedness spoils those that ingest it, for sure, so let us be prudent and position oursleves using wisdom of reality instead is wishfull thinking and self deceit. or not, lol
lol, im back 911mary (or is it 911patsy?) yeah steve jones is officially peer fucking reviewed now. normally only two peers review a paper in a journal, they appointed 3 cuz its a contraversial subject. they ALL agreed with jones conclusion. sorry your little video is full of shit and lies. YOu and all the ones like you are enemines to america! either by ignorance or by decpetion, 911 as a false flag attack is gainng strength in reality so strong you are a fool if you disagree!
who said the us government is to blame? i didnt, i would never use such an inaccurate general term. and besides if your talkin about a revolution then you what would be needed is people from the government on board for revolting right? and also insiders that know who the perpetrators are (names and address's) right? illuminati defectors right? war within the ranks, right? threats from the other power structures closing in, right? this is a burning tree rooted in the deciever, NO hope on it.
so someone else can orchestrate the most elaborate plan ever and get away with it, without anyone having proof. yea right that sounds even more plausible...
what are you talkin about first of all? and there is proof everywhere! there is so much proof that it was a false flag attack that only a fool would try to argue. no offesne, lol, but thats the facts.
your no court by the way. and im not trying to "wake you up" or something lol. i dont give a fuck. time is past riding the fence, picking sides is pretty much too late. but your is the side of the enemy and the zombies you put themselves to sleep. my enemy isnt only the elite who perpetrate our opprerssion and death, but the ones who say we are crazy. they will be the ones tryin to put people in jail when shit hits the fan, cuz they think we are "conspiracy theorists" we ALL are, you also! lol
can you prove that any particular person planned, executed it and covered it up, planted evidence, bribed the eyewitnesses. faked cell phone calls and the blackboxes, and all that other crap that would be neccessary to have done it from the inside?
i dont have to prove shit. i know where the answers to just about any question you have, but why tell you if you dont want to hear it? i was willing to go where an objective disection of the facts takes me, many of you were not willing to consider your own position as wrong, so your research is inferior to mine based on that alone. however i bet i've dug into both sides alot deeper then you. im just guessing this. ill give you one thing, it would be impossible for a plane to hit the buildings
"there are like 4 different news organizations in the world and their heads are all in on it and cover it up."
so not one person or a group of people want to get the Peace Nobel Price and become rich and famous a hero and probably a major figure in world history for many centuries to come?
i didnt say i have all the answers, is that anger in your voice mary? you are against me? fine. now what are you babblin about? lol, do you understand ANYthing about world politics? do you know a little even? please tell me how it works lets see if you actually know something. go for it, maybe you can change my mind i'll see your response
what makes you think I'm angry?! I just take the shit outta you. I'm having a great time;-)
let's just stick to the issues k? think what you want. I'm not in the mood to explain a wide field like politics over youtube to a youtuber. it's 12 at night so good night;-)
info isnt free anyway. thats how i know you are only some youtubin "twoofer" hater. you dont know whats up from what you have displayed you havent even bothered to look. and im not cool mwith you to trade info with you, you dont want it anyway, and you have nothing to exchange for it
I say one thing, I don't spend the whole day on youtube and I am not obsessed with 9/11. Just because you obviously are, it doesn't mean that others who don't write long essays to explain themselves to you are stupid or whatever.
i obviously am? is this another example of you saying something that means something else? if not then you are up to your old tricks (thinking you know things you do NOT) this is detrimental to anybody mary. and once again of course you are wrong. why say wrong things? you figure that out yourself. things come my way, we'll say. and i have seen that this vid in particular is now officially discredited. it should be taken down in light of things with jones
but you probably will choose to try and save face over truth. i suppose i dont help, well ill stop. lets just say that the fight is over and your side lost. i came to gloat and to point out how this vid has no basis in reality. but ill stop the gloating. i admit it is unwise.
you seen the two new pentagon videos? and a third that cant be confirmed by me is authentic. one civilian and one business got there tapes legally returned to them finally and guess whats on it? no fucking plane is on it (they share that with the footage released by the pentagon). guess what was hit in the pentagon? the offices that handle the accounting. you know why that matters? to cover the black budget scandal that was coming to a head etc etc etc im just droppin little things
this rant about cheney and bush lets me know you dont understand how the elites plans work. they like to kill alot of birds with one stone. they hardly ever do anything for just one reason. im interested to see what you think is the deal. i wont mock it like you attempt to do me, i will speak on it. either agree or disagree with it. dont be scared to put it out there. i can make fun of you without that, lol, imnot interested in that though
I know how you people all want us to think about how the "elites" work. that little sketch was just to simplify my point
that's commonly used in humur;-)
insurance fraud, blaming terrorists, spreading fear, getting support to go to war, get that precious oil, selling weapons, getting rich with the war industry. anything forgotten?
once again you are thinking you know things you do NOT and it leads you to a faulty conclusion (of course). i dont give a shit about what you are able to know or not, that is your choice not mine. people can choose to look at this as all a game, but they are enemies of us ewither by choice or defualt and lack of ability.
you are the one that things he knows shit. there are pelnty of people like you that think they got it all figured out, yet none of em have accomplished anthing in this 7 years. ever thought about that you could be wrong? maybe you r the one that came to a "faulty" conclusion?
once again you have said that i think i know it all. this is another time you have lied. if you dont stop then you are earning disrespect. and in the last 7 years there is a whole lot more going on then you know, lol. you say i think i know it all (completely unfounded) then you make claims to know things that you clearly dont! what a fucking mess inside your head, thats poison. you should take your own advice and consider yourself wrong
I said you think you know shit. you r twisting my words like cters like to do.
have the cters earned respect in any media outlet? have they gotten anywhere with their shoutings in the streets? filling teenager's heads with conspiracy theories all over the world is no accomplishment.
One time I said "yea you have all the answers" and that was meant to be exaggerated, and should not implicate that you really think you know it all. it's strange that I have to explain that to you
strange to have to explain that your words mean something else then what you type? something is strange there alright...i say what i mean and mean what i say. i realize the word is bond. what is going on with the truth movement? are you asking me? lol. go look for yourself. things are gonna go how they are going to, all i can do is see the possibilities and prepare. what are you doing/ thinking you know stuff you dont? thats not gonna help you for what is coming soon
"what is going on with the truth movement? are you asking me?"
no I didn't ask that. I used a rhetorical device that's called rhetorical question
do I have to explain everything around here?
"thats not gonna help you for what is coming soon"
yea you guys wanna make the us be afraid of the govt. if you were right the only ones that should be afraid are the cter leaders that will be the first to executed by the fascist govt right? but the police lets them spout their venom. odd?
you think the police let them talk? you arent paying attention, so i should stop paying you attetnion. it is now legal to be labled a domestic terrorist, you know about this? no then just forget it. i never use terms like "da government" like i told you earlier. i know much more specific things then that useless term. the first to be ensnared are the ones totally oblivious to the net, i have to explain that i guess. whatever, im out, i suggest you go look for that net cuz shit is speedin up. bye
yea running away when facing real truth, not being able to admit you are wrong and giving ridiculous reasons to stop the debate. keep on living in denial. You seem to need this "fight" for "justice". bring down the vile "elite" not the govt of course. the elite has more power than the US govt could ever dream of right? they were able to trick the world without the help of the govt apparently. that's much more plausible than this mainstream conspiracy theory!
real truth? lol. obviously you care what i think cuz you are trying to pull this stupid shit lol, whatever you need to do i got to go to class though. and you are a low level anti-conspiracy theorist, why try your hand at guessing the higher level of the other side? you are a mess, i guess i worked you up. whatever, i gave you reasons why your wrong about the stupid pentagon. even though im not interested in converting you
you said later that pilots think it is impossible.
what they say is still OPINION and nothing more. it may be unlikely but not impossible. it's unlikely to win the lottery (1 to 13,983,816) yet it happens;-)
your reason is just the sucky surveillynce camera. that's not a reason it's a joke. and I already explained it several times why it is a joke. keep on thinking the plane should have been clearly visible! keep on relying on ridiculous reasons to keep on thinking inside your little box!
this fuyckin post allways has some stupid glitch where i have to re edit and fuck with my xcomments to get something to post, piece of shit video post!
wait wtf r u talkin about? i didnt say i was going anywhere (i happen to be) ridiculous reasons? these are hundreds of professional pilots all syaing that you are wrong! thats ridiculous to you huh? never thought that could happen huh? lol. you dont have any idea what the"conspricy" is. so your mocking makes YOU look ignorant, how ironic. oh it does; you are mockin something you clearly have no idea what it is...that is sad,
yeah i think your puttin your foot in your mouth cuz this is one fuckin tape out of a possible four. you have 3 confirmed authentic tapes from different angles, and NONE show anything close to a plane. you look at ALL the HIGHLY improbabale instances that happened that day that exponentiate eachother as well, and you have NO argument agaisnt math (or physics) at all!the possiblity of what fema said happen is so small its ridiculous to consier it trth at all.
you put one instance in an actuary chart and that ALONE is enough to discount the whole story, its that statistically insignifigant. i know a little something about stats i am a psych major. then you consider that there are like 9 other HIGHLY improbably occurances (you dont add them on you exponentiate them) and it is clear that it is some completely ridiculously high number of improbablity. math is screaming at you saying " you gotta be a complete fuckin idiot!" lol seriously,
lol, wtf are u talkinabout? wait dont answer, just read my message until its memorized and hold that thouhgt im bullying you cuz your not my size, and you dont want to bow down so you say something anything to respond. just drop it dude. i know i won, i dont care if you know it or what you know, you picked your poison and im not gonna try and help you get it out. to each his own,
maybe you do consider yourself wrong and that is why you dont explain how it "is" or maybe you are smart enough to know that you lack knowledge in this field SEVERLY and choose to take the wise position of not havin an opinion. i dont know what it is for sure. whatever, do you have insiders? you know the bin ladens are insiders with theh bushes right?
I consider at least most of the conspiracy theory as LC Alex Jones Steven Jones and others want to sell us to be nothing but unsubstantiated hatespeeches against america and it's govt.
I also consider most of what I say to be true. I can't say that I don't make mistakes.
and yes I know the Bush family is business partners with the Bin Laden family. that of course "proves" that 9/11 was an inside job or what did you want to say?
anyone supporting the fema report is an enemy to this country. whether by defualt, lying, or gross neglegence. at the end of the day it doesnt matter why cuz now is not the time for revealing but for action. you appear to be doubting things based on your prejudices and you will be caught be surprise when things start coming forth
that is no shocker that the plane isn't visible because surveillance cameras aren't supposed to capture planes going with 500mph through the background in 300 or so meters distance.
especially the ones capturing 1 frame per second. the thought of having a clear shot of the plane is just ridiculous
wtf r u talkin about? your talkin to me? i asked you twice to explain your opinion. you havent done that after asking you twice. i guess the answer is you are afriad, or you dont know. what the fuck ever. are you asking me to help you understand this better by showing me this video? lol are you tryin to have a leg to stand on? your side has lost the battle and the war of reality. ewither your not paying cloase enough attention or your a liar.
what is that shit? its some nah nah na nah na. you have nothing left to stand on for your side. just little scraps of nothing. we have all the facts and reality on our side. you didnt know that i guess, get your head out your ass. i know your side AND mine.
i knew i shouldnt have mentioned anything about anything with you. here watch?v=0JY7dggr8tY there s your pentagon shit. thats nothing though, except it shows how there is NO plane. there is another one from a different angle, no plane there either. the point is that we have trashed everything on your side and you dont know it yet. also we have things from all angles showing this is painfully clear to be a false flag attack. i cant believe you people still exist? i guess you lack knowledge
"well they would catch a plane on film if it was there"
you saying it makes it true, huh?(again a rhetorical device, I'm sure you understood it by now or did I overestimate you?)
the sucky surveillance camera has a friggin low resolution is black and white, takes one frame per minute, and teh plane is at least 300 meters away, almost the whole flight path is covered with trees and you expect a plane going 500mph on it. yea right...
yes i do. regardless it is impossible for a plane to hit that target, especially a comercial airline. the burden of proof is on the other side. john lear (of lear jets) is an accomplished pilot and alot of pilots agree that it is impossible, tests have been done to drive home the point. there is an organization of pilots who say there are lots of impossibilites. the list goes on, and your side has what? nothing, no plane no nothing, just jokes. well let it be a game to you, to each his own
that doesnt prove anything. the plane was captured on the first released tape.
watch?v=Z8v8ai2-S0Q
here you see it.
btw nothing is impossible. maybe it is extremely unlikely but that doesnt mean that it is impossible. the chance to win the lottery are 1 to 1,398,816 (that's the accurate number!) and yet there have been people that won as you probably have heard
it may be unlikely but not impossible. saying it's impossible proves squad
if this is what you call research then you are hopeless, probably. pilots say that it is impossible not only cuz the plane has safeguards against doing this but it is near impossible to execute. then you take how highly improbable for norad to miss it, the probabality that it would penatrate the steel (twice!) the probabality that the buildings would fall (3 times?!) the probabality of many other things
when you actually research you will find out that it is not as unlikely for the WTC to fall the way it did. but dismiss the experts all as liars. yea lock your thought inside that box...
and yea keep thinking Norad is perfect and that the US is a fortress and noone can attack the US cause they are super cool. do you have constructive critique against the video I gave you or do you just dismiss it as junk?
and dont forget science. physics say that it is impossible in numerous ares also. there is NO leg to stand on for you. you have NO excuse to be defending this. if you defend it for lack of knowledge that is YOUR fault and nobody elses. suffer the ignoracne of your own lack of abailty. and the pilots "opinions" are professional ones, many of corraberated ones and you have nothing to counter them so stfu about that. you have no leg to stand on there either, or do you? lol NO!
you are the only one with no leg to stand on. you saying I am doesn't make it so. but keep on thinking that. I don't care what you think. you will always rely on some weird things anyone found to stay in your believe. like your precious surveillance tapes. Or some people saing it is impossible. It's just unlikely and not impossible
IF 9/11 as it happened WAS physically impossible it would be a walk in the park to prove it and stop ranting on the streets and prosecuting the perpetrators.
there are thousands of professionals saying its too unlikely for an intelegent man to consider. you have nothing but general rantings and a vid that is fruadulant. your a fringe on the anti truth side even. you dont even present your side best arguments, yuor a waste of time i sent you a message, im embarrased to be wasteing my time on this little channel lol bye, see you when the shit hits the fan
ill give you organizations that have hundreds of professionals in them, you do the rest of the research lazy. pilotsfor911truthDOTorg the architects and engineers, hundreds from the fire dept who were on duty on 911. i would suggest you keep up on BOTH sides if you want to have an informed opinion truthinator. thats only logical to look at both sides of a topic BEFORE you try to start forming an opinion...
I'll take any link that has hundreds of firefighters that were on duty that day claiming that 9/11 was an inside job. I would very much appreciate if you could provide that link.
i dont know what you are referring to. but i have a link with workers clearing the wreckage who state that the pools of metal were measured at 2800 F!!!
Whomever I responded to was someone claiming they had a video of hundreds of firefighters that were at ground zero that day all claiming that they thought 9/11 was an inside job. I said I would be very interested in seeing that video. It has yet to appear.
you responded to me and i dont know what your talkin about. there are vids of firemen who are for the "truth" ovement. this movement isnt to be trusted blindly cuz it has been inflitrated. however femas version has NO merit. only liars and fools (or the unknowedgable) follow that. there are tons of civilians witnesses, fiemane witnesses, ground cew, police, politicianas, insiders, pilots, engineers, architects, demolition experts, that say it would have had to have "inside" help. whos inside tho
I've never seen a demolition expert back up the conspiracies. They all say it could never be done. As for videos, the only ones I care about are the ones of firefighters that were actually there that day saying that they believe it was a demolition. CT's all say they exist but in my studying of over 1000 videos I've yet to find one, and no one will provide me with one to back up their claims.
hmm fair enough. i wouldnt only care about what the firemen have to say, they werent the only ones there you know, or the only ones who put their carrers at stake for speaking out. i havent even thought about this topic in a minute cuz i allready founf more then enough proof to say fema is full of shit. but its complicated past that, obviously. i cant link one off hand but i HAVE seen firemen speak on the bombs. just search "firemen wtc bombs" or something, youll find some
you are aware 3 wy buildings fell that they right? lol just checkin. i think other then mk-ultra this is the MOST proven conspircay out there (that i know of at least) theres so much Strong evidence you wont believe your eyes. its unbelieveble but its true. the pools of metal under the buildings, the collapse itself was improbabaly impossible, jet fuel burning down a building?! structural damage? not on these building design. one of the two guys who built it said it could withstandseveral 707's
The 911 truth movement has been around for years, and I'm wondering why more of us don't see the clear contradictions, or that it's real mission is to compromise it's stated objectives.
Every high-profile 911 truth source is contstantly, DELIBERATELY poisoning it's evidence pool and repelling people who think for themselves, containing the spread of the movement, not to mention all the orchestrated infighting....
Do they have to betray us completely before we finally wake up?
screw liars. lol, im back 911mary (or is it 911patsy?) yeah steve jones is officially peer fucking reviewed now. normally only two peers review a paper in a journal, they appointed 3 cuz its a contraversial subject. they ALL agreed with jones conclusion. sorry your little video is full of shit and lies. YOu and all the ones like you are enemines to america! either by ignorance or by decpetion, 911 as a false flag attack is gainng strength in reality so strong you are a fool if you disagree!
it is strange, when i find conspiracies most of them are from the states..there is no other country in the world with so many conspiracies. what is the reason for that ?
there are many because the FBI CIA etc always release few information and give much space for imagination for conspiracy theories. just like UFOs landing in Roswell, Area 51 and so on
You made thermite out of things that are in an office building? Most of us have to use finely powdered aluminum! One can use gypsum (calcium sulfate) instead of iron oxide, or certain other metals instead of aluminum, but the metal has to be powdered. If you can initiate the thermite reaction with large chunks of aluminum, please post the video here!
Fused alumina is present in any office building. It is used in powder coating metal wares. Powdered gypsum is everywhere when a building collapses.
I am not even saying that thermite existed. I am saying that its components are everywhere.
Further, thermite reactions would not be on-going. Nor would the molten iron produced during the collapse exist in large enough masses not to have lost substantial heat during its fall to the ground. The fires are evidence of nothing, really.
Here is an experiment to try: get a steel box column and pack the hollow space inside full of thermite. Ignite the thermite. Watch the column lose its strength and bend.
Search YouTube for: WTC + horseshoe
Note the bent box column without any kinks or cracks. Such bending is evidence of high temperatures, much higher than burning jet fuel and office supplies.
islam will keep molten steel bubbly hot for at least 8 weeks. It will even convince authorities not to include lava in the official report. Stven Jones doesnt know the first thing about religion
it wasnt thermite that was used it was radical islam and saudi mind controlled zombies. only a godless terrorist would accuse america of being un american
Did the rest of you see the white ring around the hole in the top of the computer? That is a small crust, compared to what any thermite charge capable of brigning dow a small steel building would leave. Show me something like that from the WTC or shut the hell up about thermite.
Well, I don't have access to their computer but I suspect the crust is aluminum oxide. The thermite reaction products are aluminum oxide and molten iron.
Jones found aluminum oxide in the WTC dust as well as iron microspheres.
i asked repeatedly for the strongest evidence against certain things, and what i recieved was not sufficient to persuade me. and yes looking at all sides objectively without prejudice is more important to me then what side is right. thats the main thing i require of anybody i talk to. as long as we do that and show respect, it can be mutual. then we can start learning from eachother and narrowing down our theories to a more accurate one. but i dont see any evidence that you will behave that way
you guys on here are fuckin pathetic. either your lying or your scared. face it the world is owned and its too late. it is only your fault if you get exploited though. if you dont stop the exploitation then it is your fault its happeneing to you, thats life. sittin on your ass bitchin about little details, even if we proved 911 was a false flag (like the ones in iraq) then so what. it wouldnt bring down the powers that be. this is set in motion, just know how to prepare. propaganda is power
u havent proven that 911 was an inside job or a false flag attack. we proved that the wtc didnt come down in a controlled demolition thats all what happened here;)
alright plz excuse my rudeness but you are very frustrating. NO i dont think that disagreeing wiht the info i provide is wrong. but i do think the alternate explanations are very insufficient and do not draw the most common sense conclusion. i feel that you might be prejudiced in your view and it hurts your ability to be objective. the info you gave me so far, like this very vid, i consider weak. im just bein honest. i didnt read that link dont know what your refering to though
i dont know what your talkin about, at all. look at what? if you wanna send me something that fits what i asked (the strongest evidence you have agaisnt cd) then feel free. i dont need some extreme closeup of some random dudes head. and atheists depress the shit out of me. i feel so sorry for them.
yeah 911 did you mean in this vid or the one you sent me? this vid uses a strawman fallacy. that is why i dislike it. that is when you incorrectly sum up your opponents argument then "debunk" it. i'll send you a little article on that and jones actuall hypothesis
yeah 911 did you mean in this vid or the one you sent me? this vid uses a strawman fallacy. that is why i dislike it. that is when you incorrectly sum up your opponents argument then "debunk" it. i'll send you a little article on that and jones actuall hypothesis
your articel talks about alot possabilitys. it COULD be acid rain, but needs further investigation.
for you the could be is already like they found out. while thats the main point of the articel
From a building-safety point of view, the critical question is: Did the eutectic mixture form before the buildings collapsed, or later, as the remains smoldered on the ground. "We have no idea," admits Sisson.
you know it was Demolitioned and thats why you are here since months posting your claims you never backup and twist the words of those that point out the strange things, you also try to discredit them with all kind of lies.
To the troofer, everyon who disagrees with them is a difinfo agent.
And since i disagree with you, you decided to believe i'm a jewish israeli academic from Texas, afraid that my role in 911 comes out in the open, so i'm desperate enough to spent time on youtube challenging claims from people like you..
Steven Jones=Shill, no doubt
notesleb 5 months ago
there were no aircraft you idiots....the media was 100% in on it..watch...MOSSAD CAUGHT IN VAN ON 9-11 "FILLED WITH EXPLOSIVES" GW BRIDGE. learn more real truth from Myron Fagan speech, cfr in america and a speech by Benjamin Freedman at the willard hotel.
sssssjjjj1 5 months ago
I can't believe that these two video masturbaters have generated this much traffic. And Steven Jones is treated like a fool. Planet Earth. Yep. Makes sense.
tarp11z 5 months ago
watch?v=5d5iIoCiI8g
Funkadelic2 9 months ago
Search for Steven E Jones article: "Geo-Fusion and Cold Nucleosynthesis". Steven E Jones is among the U.S. funded researchers of the same technology that was used to bring down the World Trade Center in a virtual cloud of dust, it was not thermite nor any one of the superior forms of it. Steven E Jones doesn't want you to know that it was a cold nucleosynthesis and that he is one of the experts on the subject. Was he involved in the conspiracy?
JZJYRWO 1 year ago
I appreciate the portions of your video in which you analyze evidence, but unfortunately you decided to spend most of your commentary in the video attacking Jones and appealing to authority.
Please, stick to the evidence (if you want "deniers" to pay attention.)
JohnWaco 1 year ago
thermite is not incendiary cant even melt a computer tower its just a glorified roman candle
Obelisk2290 1 year ago
As for there being no scientists or engineers speaking up about 911, many are afraid of getting kicked out of their faculty like Dr. Jones was but there are foreign scientists and engineers who are perfectly certain that WTC7 was a CD, including two emeritus professors of a Swiss university. Debunkernuts suck Dubya's Dck!
StephenMaturinMD 2 years ago
Maybe the real value of Steven Jones is his address to the 911 Report, which has been consistently dismissed as fraudulent by most top fire investigation experts such as (Fire Engineering editor)Bill Manning, (former NIST fire research director)Dr. Quintiere, etc. A few experts such as Jones argue the possibility of a big govt conspiracy killing our citizens, but many experts argue a conspiracy took place, that probably involved covering up insufficient fire insulation was used.
bill0756 2 years ago
1. The towers were not built like giant PC cases.
2. None of the scientists claimed that nano-thermite brought down the towers (they speculate it played a role).
3. The scientists limited themselves to proving the existence of unreacted and reacted incendiaries (particularly nano-thermite) throughout the dust samples collected from the disaster site.
CO2TROL 2 years ago 3
This is disinformation. Dr. Jones doesn't claim that the nano-thermite brought down the entire structure... he is reporting that nano-thermite was found in the building. The most likely scenario is that both nano-thermite and conventional explosives were used. They used nano-thermite when they re-did the fireproofing of the building in the year prior to 9-11 around the impact zone. They initiated the collpase with nano thermite because it wasn't an explosive then used explosives asitcollapsd
HSL 2 years ago
wow misinfo
kennyd203 2 years ago
Weak video--does not get the science right and the thermite demonstration actually contradicts your point. Thermite is an incendiary that can cut through steel, and that is exactly what we see it doing in the demonstration. The computer ends up with a hole burned in the case!
Also, this video is very out of date. There have been many developments since that show Jones' research to be accurate.
2leftfield 2 years ago
no they don't you must be reading the wrong forum, you need to be reading the scientific ones
heafers84 2 years ago
Let me get this straight. You're saying kerosene can bring down a building but thermite can't. Right?
ae911truth 2 years ago
There are many other questions related to Steven E Jones - some of which are raised in Dr Eugene Mallove's Book "Fire from Ice" (1991) about the Cold Fusion Cover up - Jones is mentioned on 100 pages.
adjuk 2 years ago
How did Professor Jones (found) "traces" of thermite? Come on,learn english first,then science!
AFFLICTED99 2 years ago
WTF about you guys!!!
You stupid Jerk-off liars - Reacted Thermite IS molten Iron retards. Also: Note that Dr. Jones mentions Thermate not Thermite. You should get your facts straight. The evidence he presents is compelling to any real scientist.
secretsaregood 2 years ago 2
nanothermite is 1000x more powerful so you suck dck
uyoudecide 2 years ago
this video is weak and proved nothing. the video did not even back its own claims.
duhherbavore 2 years ago
Of course, 2 BYU engineers (republicans mo's) don't agree with Jones!
xanxolin 3 years ago
You guy's don't really believe that Stephen Jones would be afraid to debate you two on any scientific issue do you? I mean, that was just a comeback to throw out there for the sake of saying something right? I'm not a truther but I do know that the man knows more about science when he's staggering to the toilet at 3:00a.m. to piss than you guy's know period. Find me one negative comment about Dr. Jones before 911 that he's a poor scientist and I'll pay $100.00. It has to be written prior 911.
mikebuhroo 3 years ago
That's the problem, noone else really gave a shit about him before 911. He used it to propell his fame.
streakingcameraman 3 years ago
Jones is not a scientist, nor is he an engineer. His most popular paper before 9/11 was that he had proof that Jesus Christ had visited North America before he died. Ya, he's real reliable
jeffmay1 2 years ago
Who are these boneheads? And what are they talking about that Jones had a peer Review done by the 911 truth movement? That wouldn't be a peer review you jackass. This is one reason I believe much of what Dr. Jones say's. The only people who try to discredit are morons on the internet. I never see Dr. Jones on any talk shows. They only pick the screwballs with wild theories and try to bunch anyone else who disputes NIST and FEMA in with them. I want to see one face to face debate with Dr. Jones.
mikebuhroo 3 years ago 5
yea me too. but unfortunately jones is too afraid
911MmRy 3 years ago
@mikebuhroo it's true, they just strawman the shit out of it
111imstupid111 1 year ago
Inside job!
jnrolf 3 years ago
You guys are lame. You are not convincing anyone eat shit if you dont want to support the true AMERICANS. 9/11 was an inside job retards.
gooch777 3 years ago
Real Americans? what a knob
LIVERLADD 3 years ago
Thermate is used as a shape charge. Note the massive heat. Oxygen accelerates this combustion.
A shaped charge could cut through large steel I beams, and support combustion for weeks underground, where it would be deprived of much oxygen. 9/11 anyone?
You think people in authority are going to back Stephen Jones up? Why? They have everything to lose, and so does their boss, all the way up the line.
kangalanatolian 3 years ago
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Steve Jones is a government shill. He's out to lead the 9/11 movement to false conclusions that will help to discredit it. He's very deceitful.
Watch "9/11 Eyewitnesses" and stick with basic free-fall and Newtonian physics to provide your irrefutable proof that 9/11 was a government operation.
You don't need to prove what KIND of explosives or incendiary materials were used. Once you've applied physics to prove the government is lying about 9/11, you have established there's a conspiracy.
911thegreathoax 3 years ago
shape charge? Thermate is an incendiary not an explosive!
The Oxygen comes from the iron oxide not from the atmosphere.
Second sentence? WTF??? How does a shaped charge support combustion???
Third sentence: A rhetorical answer to a rhetorical question followed by an inane euphe-truism.
Uggh. No wonder these monsters believe they can do whatever they want.
secretsaregood 2 years ago
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Yeah, I totally put an "I" where an "A" should be, I made such a huge mistake. Not nearly as large as Jones offering a theory so flawed that structural engineers in his own university have told him so, but whatever. I know what Jones is arguing (the catastrophic "a vs. i" argument aside) and he's produced ZERO to back him up. He didn't then, he still hasn't. You can claim Elvis is underneath your bed, but if you don't back it up, it's just ravings from a nutjob.
MagnesDrachen13 3 years ago
That is the underlying argument: if the 9/11 Truth Movement is obviously right and their findings are based on so much irrefutable evidence, why have zero (0) papers been submitted for legitimate (the department the paper deals with) peer-review at any university? If the movement is so obviously right, why are they afraid of submitting their findings to honest academic scrutiny?
MagnesDrachen13 3 years ago
the real question magnes is why do you think you know what your talkin about? lol, i mean lets be real, you just suggested that there are NO scientific papaer submitted and peer reviewed in scientific journals. steve jones; the very guy from this video, has allready submitted 3 papers, they were ALL reviewed (by 3 instead of the usual 2 peers) and ALL agreed, only one slighlty less. so you need to KNOW what you are talkin about before you pretend to know and someone calls your bluff. peace
joopq 3 years ago
And who were they reviewed by? It wasn't the STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING faculty(or any engineering faculty for that matter) at BYU. Do you know why? Because the structural engineering department looked at the paper anyway and said his hypothesis (the basis of any scientific paper) was flawed. Write a paper in History and have the Math department review it, basically that's what he did. Everything else he's done has been through the 9/11 truther journal (and we know how respectable THAT is).
MagnesDrachen13 3 years ago
oh we KNOW how respectable that is? i dont, do you honestly? lol. anyway know he submitted them to the proper places, 3 of them. go find it yourself, im not interested in waking skeptics up. catch up or get left behind, knowledge is power. good luck.
joopq 3 years ago
The 9/11 truth journal was created for the sole purpose/agenda of proving the 9/11 conspiracy. It's basically a "academic journal" where everyone in the process automatically agree on what the "truth" is. It's the same as submitting an academic paper to your best friend (who already agrees with you), not exactly objective.
Doing a paper on structural engineering and submitting it to another department isn't honest and it's not educational.
MagnesDrachen13 3 years ago
who cares about the 911 journal. jones put his papaer into accredited scientific journals and was peer reviewed, thats the point. to find out which ones put your research skills to the test. you have to realize that (im not calling the 911 journal this cuz i dont know it) there are liars and shills on all sides of this topic. thats to be expected of such an important event. there are liars on the "truther" side. thats why im on the truth side not the truther side, understand? fema and nist;liars
joopq 3 years ago
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Jones' hypothesis/"research" is so vulnerable, you could drive a truck through it. He bases his thermite argument on "sulfur" (found in drywall) and "iron oxide" (found in almost everything else in the office), but completely ignores that thermite would have produced a burning cloud of hazardous air within the building (which was absent, according to all who entered the building). So two pieces of the puzzle are there, but the third part isn't, but Jones doesn't mention that. How convenient.
MagnesDrachen13 3 years ago
sigh
joopq 3 years ago
first of all i dont want to debate you. especially when i can see you dont know this topic but act like you do. YOU dont know jones argument. you dont even know where to find it i bet. so how do you think you know what your talkin about? its thermAte not thermite that jones talks about, ok? so go find his argument, read it (lol), THEN strat to try and form an opinion.
joopq 3 years ago
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His work has never been into "accredited scientific journal and has NEVER been peer reviewed, his own University that he worked for released a statement disagreeing with his view and put him on leave. I'll send the clip of him saying he's never been peer reviewed to you mailbox right now.
jeffmay1 3 years ago
things change jeff. they changed about a month or two ago. keep up or get left behind
joopq 3 years ago
Yeah his own university (I use this term lightly), run by a religion that claims to have "The Truth"(tm) asked him to resign, despite his tenure, because he was costing them federal funding. What buncha pimps and federal serfs.
So much for Tenure being a stalwart against politicized and religicized truth. PS You can find his peer reviewed papers, many of them, if you know how to search actual scientific literature - to hell with your "clip"
secretsaregood 2 years ago 2
the only actual peer reviewed journal that would publish him is Bentham, an open access journal, it's a pay and play journal, and he got to hand pick his review board
heafers84 2 years ago
that's ad hominem
LLCoolPass 2 years ago
well here's a fact, Bentham doesn't peer review. They were caught accepting fake papers. So we have no idea if it was put into peer review. Other than that there are multiple problems with his research. Such as the energy content being to high, exponentially. The keV not matching that of thermite. The fact that all the elements found in the chips is exactly the same as the primer paint in WTC. Contamination is a big factor. Yadyadayadayada.
But just drink the koolaid anyway sheeple
heafers84 2 years ago
i agree bentham has had problems with their novel process. but , if you keep to my point, and not introduce name-calling into the mix,
I was referring to you even bringing that up as if to use that to prove the findings were wrong. that would be akin to an ad hominem fallacy of logic
LLCoolPass 2 years ago
Can you tell me if the kev [short for 1000(e)(V)] is the same for nanothermite as thermite?
LLCoolPass 2 years ago
yes, the spikes could be different, but where they fell on the horizontal plot would be near identical. Nanothermite is just finer.
heafers84 2 years ago
Totally agree, there is lots of sound evidence but if these @%$^%^$ people want to look at the little facts, that don't even disprove a thing, just cloud the truth with skepticism, then fine, stay ignorant in your flocks.
fabeskins62 3 years ago
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they may be shills though lol, low level shills gettin paid $8.50 hr! lol. anyway, its sad but i have moved onto the "fine, good luck with that buddy" stage. no more wakin people up, knowledge is a gift and these people will spit at you for offering it. i just use mine to prepare for whats coming sooner then later, and all these fucked up 911 born anti-constitutional laws and wars. btw jones is most likely a shill, have you found out yet? he may be lookin at us like pieces of meat instead of men
joopq 3 years ago
now, a fire can only reach temperatures of up to 1200 degrees F. so the fire could not possibly melt the columbs bacause fire will never become hotter than its own temperature.
it would be better if you actually look things up for yourself, really.
chadandzuri11 3 years ago
culoumns didnt have to melt before they failed
911MmRy 3 years ago
I love it. 4 pounds of thermite and it could not melt the thin sheet metal of the tower lol
Obelisk2290 3 years ago
@911MmRy the center columns were designed to hold up the weight of the towers.. its the reason they are standing in the first place. The planes are not to blame for destroying enough columns to bring the building down. So, if the building had to fall due to failing columns, what made them fail? It is true the fire could NOT have been hot enough to weaken/melt the columns to the point of failure. Then what made them fail?
reaton33 1 month ago
chad-the problem was that the fire was fueled by kerosene and they suggest that it warped the steel. but in that case a slightyl symmetircal almost free fall speed collapse is very unlikey to happen, espcially three times in the same day people! EVEN if WARPED, they can NOT (then) explain the molten pools of metal in the basement that were clocked at over 1000 deg hotter (2800F!!)then the incinduary point of kerosene. jet fuel could NOT have done this. it was a third factor, thermAte anyone?
joopq 3 years ago
actually it was thermate. (of course stronger than thermite) jones never said that it would melt the entire building, but rather used to melt the columbs of the building, making it to be a CONTROLED DEMOLITION.
well, steel melts at 2750 degrees F. this can only occur like in some sort of blast furnice or using thermite. haha. so what's the mystery there?
chadandzuri11 3 years ago
steel loses half its strength at 600°C which certainly was enough to bring the buildings down according to experts. but what do they know, huh?
911MmRy 3 years ago
@911MmRy agt 50% strength failer, there WUD NOT be free fall. or perhaps you can explain that 2? but wait a min. what about building #7? what do u say happned on that?
bigbrother1994 1 year ago
@911MmRy
LOL Experts like NIST? Or the 911 omission report.
And steel losing half its strength does not explain molten steel,lol.
Do all the Duh'boinkers/disinfo agents read from the same manual,haha.
NoNORADon911 1 year ago
haha! how pathetic.
jones never said that thermite was used to blow up buildings. and if you compare the pc with the twin towers...it had the same effect...the smoke was white and the fire was burning red.
chadandzuri11 3 years ago
steven jones didn't even know how to operate a cigarette lighter. he is a stupid unemployable professor of empty spaces.
911TRUTHINATOR 3 years ago
steve jones has trashed this vid, he IS peer reviewed and all three peers agreed with him
joopq 3 years ago
im gonna spam u with my vids
antitorbi182 3 years ago
it was just a matter of time before all the truther haters would have no legs to stand on, as i figured. at this point if they want to defect to our side it would be wise. no hard feelings, i mean if you were just showing healthy skepticism that is. the fruits of wickedness spoils those that ingest it, for sure, so let us be prudent and position oursleves using wisdom of reality instead is wishfull thinking and self deceit. or not, lol
joopq 3 years ago
lol, im back 911mary (or is it 911patsy?) yeah steve jones is officially peer fucking reviewed now. normally only two peers review a paper in a journal, they appointed 3 cuz its a contraversial subject. they ALL agreed with jones conclusion. sorry your little video is full of shit and lies. YOu and all the ones like you are enemines to america! either by ignorance or by decpetion, 911 as a false flag attack is gainng strength in reality so strong you are a fool if you disagree!
joopq 3 years ago
so there is nothing that stands in the way of the impeachment of the US govt right? good for you!
911MmRy 3 years ago
who said the us government is to blame? i didnt, i would never use such an inaccurate general term. and besides if your talkin about a revolution then you what would be needed is people from the government on board for revolting right? and also insiders that know who the perpetrators are (names and address's) right? illuminati defectors right? war within the ranks, right? threats from the other power structures closing in, right? this is a burning tree rooted in the deciever, NO hope on it.
joopq 3 years ago
so someone else can orchestrate the most elaborate plan ever and get away with it, without anyone having proof. yea right that sounds even more plausible...
911MmRy 3 years ago
what are you talkin about first of all? and there is proof everywhere! there is so much proof that it was a false flag attack that only a fool would try to argue. no offesne, lol, but thats the facts.
joopq 3 years ago
tell exactly that to any court in the WORLD.
I wonder what they would say
911MmRy 3 years ago
your no court by the way. and im not trying to "wake you up" or something lol. i dont give a fuck. time is past riding the fence, picking sides is pretty much too late. but your is the side of the enemy and the zombies you put themselves to sleep. my enemy isnt only the elite who perpetrate our opprerssion and death, but the ones who say we are crazy. they will be the ones tryin to put people in jail when shit hits the fan, cuz they think we are "conspiracy theorists" we ALL are, you also! lol
joopq 3 years ago
can you prove that any particular person planned, executed it and covered it up, planted evidence, bribed the eyewitnesses. faked cell phone calls and the blackboxes, and all that other crap that would be neccessary to have done it from the inside?
911MmRy 3 years ago
i dont have to prove shit. i know where the answers to just about any question you have, but why tell you if you dont want to hear it? i was willing to go where an objective disection of the facts takes me, many of you were not willing to consider your own position as wrong, so your research is inferior to mine based on that alone. however i bet i've dug into both sides alot deeper then you. im just guessing this. ill give you one thing, it would be impossible for a plane to hit the buildings
joopq 3 years ago
yeah you have all the answers.
is it something like this?
"there are like 4 different news organizations in the world and their heads are all in on it and cover it up."
so not one person or a group of people want to get the Peace Nobel Price and become rich and famous a hero and probably a major figure in world history for many centuries to come?
911MmRy 3 years ago
?lol?
joopq 3 years ago
i didnt say i have all the answers, is that anger in your voice mary? you are against me? fine. now what are you babblin about? lol, do you understand ANYthing about world politics? do you know a little even? please tell me how it works lets see if you actually know something. go for it, maybe you can change my mind i'll see your response
joopq 3 years ago
what makes you think I'm angry?! I just take the shit outta you. I'm having a great time;-)
let's just stick to the issues k? think what you want. I'm not in the mood to explain a wide field like politics over youtube to a youtuber. it's 12 at night so good night;-)
911MmRy 3 years ago
info isnt free anyway. thats how i know you are only some youtubin "twoofer" hater. you dont know whats up from what you have displayed you havent even bothered to look. and im not cool mwith you to trade info with you, you dont want it anyway, and you have nothing to exchange for it
joopq 3 years ago
yea think what you want.
I say one thing, I don't spend the whole day on youtube and I am not obsessed with 9/11. Just because you obviously are, it doesn't mean that others who don't write long essays to explain themselves to you are stupid or whatever.
911MmRy 3 years ago
i obviously am? is this another example of you saying something that means something else? if not then you are up to your old tricks (thinking you know things you do NOT) this is detrimental to anybody mary. and once again of course you are wrong. why say wrong things? you figure that out yourself. things come my way, we'll say. and i have seen that this vid in particular is now officially discredited. it should be taken down in light of things with jones
joopq 3 years ago
"is this another example of you saying something that means something else?"
you just have to think about what obviously means;-)
911MmRy 3 years ago
but you probably will choose to try and save face over truth. i suppose i dont help, well ill stop. lets just say that the fight is over and your side lost. i came to gloat and to point out how this vid has no basis in reality. but ill stop the gloating. i admit it is unwise.
joopq 3 years ago
you seen the two new pentagon videos? and a third that cant be confirmed by me is authentic. one civilian and one business got there tapes legally returned to them finally and guess whats on it? no fucking plane is on it (they share that with the footage released by the pentagon). guess what was hit in the pentagon? the offices that handle the accounting. you know why that matters? to cover the black budget scandal that was coming to a head etc etc etc im just droppin little things
joopq 3 years ago
oooooh weird coincidences attack deluxe! yea now I trust your words!
Cheney: Hey Bush we gotta get rid of some files!
Bush: How about slamming a missile into the offices that handle the accounting and say it was a commercial airliner!
C: Great Idea! Way to go George! btw we gotta do something about the files in WTC7 too
B: How about slamming 2 planes into towers 1 n 2?
C: How would that get rid of the files?
B: Just rig the building and leave the rest to my pal God;-)
911MmRy 3 years ago
this rant about cheney and bush lets me know you dont understand how the elites plans work. they like to kill alot of birds with one stone. they hardly ever do anything for just one reason. im interested to see what you think is the deal. i wont mock it like you attempt to do me, i will speak on it. either agree or disagree with it. dont be scared to put it out there. i can make fun of you without that, lol, imnot interested in that though
joopq 3 years ago
I know how you people all want us to think about how the "elites" work. that little sketch was just to simplify my point
that's commonly used in humur;-)
insurance fraud, blaming terrorists, spreading fear, getting support to go to war, get that precious oil, selling weapons, getting rich with the war industry. anything forgotten?
911MmRy 3 years ago
once again you are thinking you know things you do NOT and it leads you to a faulty conclusion (of course). i dont give a shit about what you are able to know or not, that is your choice not mine. people can choose to look at this as all a game, but they are enemies of us ewither by choice or defualt and lack of ability.
joopq 3 years ago
you are the one that things he knows shit. there are pelnty of people like you that think they got it all figured out, yet none of em have accomplished anthing in this 7 years. ever thought about that you could be wrong? maybe you r the one that came to a "faulty" conclusion?
911MmRy 3 years ago
once again you have said that i think i know it all. this is another time you have lied. if you dont stop then you are earning disrespect. and in the last 7 years there is a whole lot more going on then you know, lol. you say i think i know it all (completely unfounded) then you make claims to know things that you clearly dont! what a fucking mess inside your head, thats poison. you should take your own advice and consider yourself wrong
joopq 3 years ago
I said you think you know shit. you r twisting my words like cters like to do.
have the cters earned respect in any media outlet? have they gotten anywhere with their shoutings in the streets? filling teenager's heads with conspiracy theories all over the world is no accomplishment.
One time I said "yea you have all the answers" and that was meant to be exaggerated, and should not implicate that you really think you know it all. it's strange that I have to explain that to you
911MmRy 3 years ago
strange to have to explain that your words mean something else then what you type? something is strange there alright...i say what i mean and mean what i say. i realize the word is bond. what is going on with the truth movement? are you asking me? lol. go look for yourself. things are gonna go how they are going to, all i can do is see the possibilities and prepare. what are you doing/ thinking you know stuff you dont? thats not gonna help you for what is coming soon
joopq 3 years ago
"what is going on with the truth movement? are you asking me?"
no I didn't ask that. I used a rhetorical device that's called rhetorical question
do I have to explain everything around here?
"thats not gonna help you for what is coming soon"
yea you guys wanna make the us be afraid of the govt. if you were right the only ones that should be afraid are the cter leaders that will be the first to executed by the fascist govt right? but the police lets them spout their venom. odd?
911MmRy 3 years ago
you think the police let them talk? you arent paying attention, so i should stop paying you attetnion. it is now legal to be labled a domestic terrorist, you know about this? no then just forget it. i never use terms like "da government" like i told you earlier. i know much more specific things then that useless term. the first to be ensnared are the ones totally oblivious to the net, i have to explain that i guess. whatever, im out, i suggest you go look for that net cuz shit is speedin up. bye
joopq 3 years ago
yea running away when facing real truth, not being able to admit you are wrong and giving ridiculous reasons to stop the debate. keep on living in denial. You seem to need this "fight" for "justice". bring down the vile "elite" not the govt of course. the elite has more power than the US govt could ever dream of right? they were able to trick the world without the help of the govt apparently. that's much more plausible than this mainstream conspiracy theory!
911MmRy 3 years ago
real truth? lol. obviously you care what i think cuz you are trying to pull this stupid shit lol, whatever you need to do i got to go to class though. and you are a low level anti-conspiracy theorist, why try your hand at guessing the higher level of the other side? you are a mess, i guess i worked you up. whatever, i gave you reasons why your wrong about the stupid pentagon. even though im not interested in converting you
joopq 3 years ago
you said later that pilots think it is impossible.
what they say is still OPINION and nothing more. it may be unlikely but not impossible. it's unlikely to win the lottery (1 to 13,983,816) yet it happens;-)
your reason is just the sucky surveillynce camera. that's not a reason it's a joke. and I already explained it several times why it is a joke. keep on thinking the plane should have been clearly visible! keep on relying on ridiculous reasons to keep on thinking inside your little box!
911MmRy 3 years ago
this fuyckin post allways has some stupid glitch where i have to re edit and fuck with my xcomments to get something to post, piece of shit video post!
joopq 3 years ago
wait wtf r u talkin about? i didnt say i was going anywhere (i happen to be) ridiculous reasons? these are hundreds of professional pilots all syaing that you are wrong! thats ridiculous to you huh? never thought that could happen huh? lol. you dont have any idea what the"conspricy" is. so your mocking makes YOU look ignorant, how ironic. oh it does; you are mockin something you clearly have no idea what it is...that is sad,
joopq 3 years ago
I think you relying on the tape that proves nothing to believe in a govt or elite or whatever conspiracy is ridiculous.
the pilots opinions are no evidence. all you have is strawman arguments, a tape that proves nothing to anyone and faith in the Conspiracy Theory
911MmRy 3 years ago
yeah i think your puttin your foot in your mouth cuz this is one fuckin tape out of a possible four. you have 3 confirmed authentic tapes from different angles, and NONE show anything close to a plane. you look at ALL the HIGHLY improbabale instances that happened that day that exponentiate eachother as well, and you have NO argument agaisnt math (or physics) at all!the possiblity of what fema said happen is so small its ridiculous to consier it trth at all.
joopq 3 years ago
you put one instance in an actuary chart and that ALONE is enough to discount the whole story, its that statistically insignifigant. i know a little something about stats i am a psych major. then you consider that there are like 9 other HIGHLY improbably occurances (you dont add them on you exponentiate them) and it is clear that it is some completely ridiculously high number of improbablity. math is screaming at you saying " you gotta be a complete fuckin idiot!" lol seriously,
joopq 3 years ago
throw ten dices at once!
which one has more probability?
a) 10 sixes or
b) 6-5-1-3-4-1-5-3-4-6 in exactly that order
911MmRy 3 years ago
lol, wtf are u talkinabout? wait dont answer, just read my message until its memorized and hold that thouhgt im bullying you cuz your not my size, and you dont want to bow down so you say something anything to respond. just drop it dude. i know i won, i dont care if you know it or what you know, you picked your poison and im not gonna try and help you get it out. to each his own,
joopq 3 years ago
im gonna spam u with my vids
antitorbi182 3 years ago
"wait wtf r u talkin about? i didnt say i was going anywhere"
you said "bye" remember?
911MmRy 3 years ago
maybe you do consider yourself wrong and that is why you dont explain how it "is" or maybe you are smart enough to know that you lack knowledge in this field SEVERLY and choose to take the wise position of not havin an opinion. i dont know what it is for sure. whatever, do you have insiders? you know the bin ladens are insiders with theh bushes right?
joopq 3 years ago
I consider at least most of the conspiracy theory as LC Alex Jones Steven Jones and others want to sell us to be nothing but unsubstantiated hatespeeches against america and it's govt.
I also consider most of what I say to be true. I can't say that I don't make mistakes.
and yes I know the Bush family is business partners with the Bin Laden family. that of course "proves" that 9/11 was an inside job or what did you want to say?
911MmRy 3 years ago
anyone supporting the fema report is an enemy to this country. whether by defualt, lying, or gross neglegence. at the end of the day it doesnt matter why cuz now is not the time for revealing but for action. you appear to be doubting things based on your prejudices and you will be caught be surprise when things start coming forth
joopq 3 years ago
that is no shocker that the plane isn't visible because surveillance cameras aren't supposed to capture planes going with 500mph through the background in 300 or so meters distance.
especially the ones capturing 1 frame per second. the thought of having a clear shot of the plane is just ridiculous
what do you say about this video?
watch?v=Z8v8ai2-S0Q
that's just lies right?
911MmRy 3 years ago
wtf r u talkin about? your talkin to me? i asked you twice to explain your opinion. you havent done that after asking you twice. i guess the answer is you are afriad, or you dont know. what the fuck ever. are you asking me to help you understand this better by showing me this video? lol are you tryin to have a leg to stand on? your side has lost the battle and the war of reality. ewither your not paying cloase enough attention or your a liar.
joopq 3 years ago
you said on the new pentagon videos is no plane and that'S odd. I said it'S not odd and explained why so what else do you want from me?
you say my side has lost the battle, without giving any reasons. what is that shit?
btw the video proves an AA Jet went into the pentagon, you just can't admit that.
911MmRy 3 years ago
what is that shit? its some nah nah na nah na. you have nothing left to stand on for your side. just little scraps of nothing. we have all the facts and reality on our side. you didnt know that i guess, get your head out your ass. i know your side AND mine.
joopq 3 years ago
still no reasons. you seem to think as long you keep repeating it it becomes true right? cters like to do that i know.
911MmRy 3 years ago
i knew i shouldnt have mentioned anything about anything with you. here watch?v=0JY7dggr8tY there s your pentagon shit. thats nothing though, except it shows how there is NO plane. there is another one from a different angle, no plane there either. the point is that we have trashed everything on your side and you dont know it yet. also we have things from all angles showing this is painfully clear to be a false flag attack. i cant believe you people still exist? i guess you lack knowledge
joopq 3 years ago
I know that surveillance camera shot
and you guy still fail to give some reasons.
that sucky camera shot is NEITHER evidence for debunker NOR cter side.
you still didnt address this
surveillance cameras aren't supposed to capture planes going with 500mph through the background in 300 or so meters distance
911MmRy 3 years ago
well they would catch a plane on film if it was there. also there is another civilian one from another angle, they are in a hotel, you know this one?
joopq 3 years ago
"well they would catch a plane on film if it was there"
you saying it makes it true, huh?(again a rhetorical device, I'm sure you understood it by now or did I overestimate you?)
the sucky surveillance camera has a friggin low resolution is black and white, takes one frame per minute, and teh plane is at least 300 meters away, almost the whole flight path is covered with trees and you expect a plane going 500mph on it. yea right...
911MmRy 3 years ago
yes i do. regardless it is impossible for a plane to hit that target, especially a comercial airline. the burden of proof is on the other side. john lear (of lear jets) is an accomplished pilot and alot of pilots agree that it is impossible, tests have been done to drive home the point. there is an organization of pilots who say there are lots of impossibilites. the list goes on, and your side has what? nothing, no plane no nothing, just jokes. well let it be a game to you, to each his own
joopq 3 years ago
you have the opinion of some pilots.
that doesnt prove anything. the plane was captured on the first released tape.
watch?v=Z8v8ai2-S0Q
here you see it.
btw nothing is impossible. maybe it is extremely unlikely but that doesnt mean that it is impossible. the chance to win the lottery are 1 to 1,398,816 (that's the accurate number!) and yet there have been people that won as you probably have heard
it may be unlikely but not impossible. saying it's impossible proves squad
911MmRy 3 years ago
if this is what you call research then you are hopeless, probably. pilots say that it is impossible not only cuz the plane has safeguards against doing this but it is near impossible to execute. then you take how highly improbable for norad to miss it, the probabality that it would penatrate the steel (twice!) the probabality that the buildings would fall (3 times?!) the probabality of many other things
joopq 3 years ago
when you actually research you will find out that it is not as unlikely for the WTC to fall the way it did. but dismiss the experts all as liars. yea lock your thought inside that box...
and yea keep thinking Norad is perfect and that the US is a fortress and noone can attack the US cause they are super cool. do you have constructive critique against the video I gave you or do you just dismiss it as junk?
911MmRy 3 years ago
and dont forget science. physics say that it is impossible in numerous ares also. there is NO leg to stand on for you. you have NO excuse to be defending this. if you defend it for lack of knowledge that is YOUR fault and nobody elses. suffer the ignoracne of your own lack of abailty. and the pilots "opinions" are professional ones, many of corraberated ones and you have nothing to counter them so stfu about that. you have no leg to stand on there either, or do you? lol NO!
joopq 3 years ago
you are the only one with no leg to stand on. you saying I am doesn't make it so. but keep on thinking that. I don't care what you think. you will always rely on some weird things anyone found to stay in your believe. like your precious surveillance tapes. Or some people saing it is impossible. It's just unlikely and not impossible
IF 9/11 as it happened WAS physically impossible it would be a walk in the park to prove it and stop ranting on the streets and prosecuting the perpetrators.
911MmRy 3 years ago
there are thousands of professionals saying its too unlikely for an intelegent man to consider. you have nothing but general rantings and a vid that is fruadulant. your a fringe on the anti truth side even. you dont even present your side best arguments, yuor a waste of time i sent you a message, im embarrased to be wasteing my time on this little channel lol bye, see you when the shit hits the fan
joopq 3 years ago
"there are thousands of professionals" yeah ?
give 5 names and their claims.
911TRUTHINATOR 3 years ago
ill give you organizations that have hundreds of professionals in them, you do the rest of the research lazy. pilotsfor911truthDOTorg the architects and engineers, hundreds from the fire dept who were on duty on 911. i would suggest you keep up on BOTH sides if you want to have an informed opinion truthinator. thats only logical to look at both sides of a topic BEFORE you try to start forming an opinion...
joopq 3 years ago
I'll take any link that has hundreds of firefighters that were on duty that day claiming that 9/11 was an inside job. I would very much appreciate if you could provide that link.
jeffmay1 3 years ago
i dont know what you are referring to. but i have a link with workers clearing the wreckage who state that the pools of metal were measured at 2800 F!!!
joopq 3 years ago
Whomever I responded to was someone claiming they had a video of hundreds of firefighters that were at ground zero that day all claiming that they thought 9/11 was an inside job. I said I would be very interested in seeing that video. It has yet to appear.
jeffmay1 3 years ago
you responded to me and i dont know what your talkin about. there are vids of firemen who are for the "truth" ovement. this movement isnt to be trusted blindly cuz it has been inflitrated. however femas version has NO merit. only liars and fools (or the unknowedgable) follow that. there are tons of civilians witnesses, fiemane witnesses, ground cew, police, politicianas, insiders, pilots, engineers, architects, demolition experts, that say it would have had to have "inside" help. whos inside tho
joopq 3 years ago
I've never seen a demolition expert back up the conspiracies. They all say it could never be done. As for videos, the only ones I care about are the ones of firefighters that were actually there that day saying that they believe it was a demolition. CT's all say they exist but in my studying of over 1000 videos I've yet to find one, and no one will provide me with one to back up their claims.
jeffmay1 3 years ago
hmm fair enough. i wouldnt only care about what the firemen have to say, they werent the only ones there you know, or the only ones who put their carrers at stake for speaking out. i havent even thought about this topic in a minute cuz i allready founf more then enough proof to say fema is full of shit. but its complicated past that, obviously. i cant link one off hand but i HAVE seen firemen speak on the bombs. just search "firemen wtc bombs" or something, youll find some
joopq 3 years ago
you are aware 3 wy buildings fell that they right? lol just checkin. i think other then mk-ultra this is the MOST proven conspircay out there (that i know of at least) theres so much Strong evidence you wont believe your eyes. its unbelieveble but its true. the pools of metal under the buildings, the collapse itself was improbabaly impossible, jet fuel burning down a building?! structural damage? not on these building design. one of the two guys who built it said it could withstandseveral 707's
joopq 3 years ago
WTC7 won't go away
GawdMachine 3 years ago
Steven Jones has said thermite cuts steel like a knife through butter... how does this video discount him at all?
Sebass512 3 years ago
The 911 truth movement has been around for years, and I'm wondering why more of us don't see the clear contradictions, or that it's real mission is to compromise it's stated objectives.
Every high-profile 911 truth source is contstantly, DELIBERATELY poisoning it's evidence pool and repelling people who think for themselves, containing the spread of the movement, not to mention all the orchestrated infighting....
Do they have to betray us completely before we finally wake up?
music7564 3 years ago
I'm wondering why more of us don't see the clear contradictions, lies, distortions, misquotes and manipulation of the so called "truth" movement.
911MmRy 3 years ago
screw liars. lol, im back 911mary (or is it 911patsy?) yeah steve jones is officially peer fucking reviewed now. normally only two peers review a paper in a journal, they appointed 3 cuz its a contraversial subject. they ALL agreed with jones conclusion. sorry your little video is full of shit and lies. YOu and all the ones like you are enemines to america! either by ignorance or by decpetion, 911 as a false flag attack is gainng strength in reality so strong you are a fool if you disagree!
joopq 3 years ago
Funny. This is the material that Jones claims brought down the WTC and yet could not even eat through a computer tower.
Obelisk2290 3 years ago
it is strange, when i find conspiracies most of them are from the states..there is no other country in the world with so many conspiracies. what is the reason for that ?
moxin99 3 years ago
u mean conspiracy theories
there are many because the FBI CIA etc always release few information and give much space for imagination for conspiracy theories. just like UFOs landing in Roswell, Area 51 and so on
911MmRy 3 years ago
You made thermite out of things that are in an office building? Most of us have to use finely powdered aluminum! One can use gypsum (calcium sulfate) instead of iron oxide, or certain other metals instead of aluminum, but the metal has to be powdered. If you can initiate the thermite reaction with large chunks of aluminum, please post the video here!
RichardC111165 3 years ago
Fused alumina is present in any office building. It is used in powder coating metal wares. Powdered gypsum is everywhere when a building collapses.
I am not even saying that thermite existed. I am saying that its components are everywhere.
Further, thermite reactions would not be on-going. Nor would the molten iron produced during the collapse exist in large enough masses not to have lost substantial heat during its fall to the ground. The fires are evidence of nothing, really.
leftysergeant 3 years ago
Here is an experiment to try: get a steel box column and pack the hollow space inside full of thermite. Ignite the thermite. Watch the column lose its strength and bend.
Search YouTube for: WTC + horseshoe
Note the bent box column without any kinks or cracks. Such bending is evidence of high temperatures, much higher than burning jet fuel and office supplies.
RichardC111165 3 years ago
islam will keep molten steel bubbly hot for at least 8 weeks. It will even convince authorities not to include lava in the official report. Stven Jones doesnt know the first thing about religion
mattphillips66 3 years ago
it wasnt thermite that was used it was radical islam and saudi mind controlled zombies. only a godless terrorist would accuse america of being un american
mattphillips66 3 years ago
Did the rest of you see the white ring around the hole in the top of the computer? That is a small crust, compared to what any thermite charge capable of brigning dow a small steel building would leave. Show me something like that from the WTC or shut the hell up about thermite.
leftysergeant 3 years ago 2
Well, I don't have access to their computer but I suspect the crust is aluminum oxide. The thermite reaction products are aluminum oxide and molten iron.
Jones found aluminum oxide in the WTC dust as well as iron microspheres.
RichardC111165 3 years ago
i asked repeatedly for the strongest evidence against certain things, and what i recieved was not sufficient to persuade me. and yes looking at all sides objectively without prejudice is more important to me then what side is right. thats the main thing i require of anybody i talk to. as long as we do that and show respect, it can be mutual. then we can start learning from eachother and narrowing down our theories to a more accurate one. but i dont see any evidence that you will behave that way
joopq 3 years ago
"i asked repeatedly for the strongest evidence against certain things"
Well, you shouldn't ask for it: you should provide it.
You claim that 911 happened in a different way then we are told.
Well: prove it.
Esnir 3 years ago 2
you guys on here are fuckin pathetic. either your lying or your scared. face it the world is owned and its too late. it is only your fault if you get exploited though. if you dont stop the exploitation then it is your fault its happeneing to you, thats life. sittin on your ass bitchin about little details, even if we proved 911 was a false flag (like the ones in iraq) then so what. it wouldnt bring down the powers that be. this is set in motion, just know how to prepare. propaganda is power
joopq 3 years ago
u havent proven that 911 was an inside job or a false flag attack. we proved that the wtc didnt come down in a controlled demolition thats all what happened here;)
u ignoring it doesnt make u right
911MmRy 3 years ago
alright plz excuse my rudeness but you are very frustrating. NO i dont think that disagreeing wiht the info i provide is wrong. but i do think the alternate explanations are very insufficient and do not draw the most common sense conclusion. i feel that you might be prejudiced in your view and it hurts your ability to be objective. the info you gave me so far, like this very vid, i consider weak. im just bein honest. i didnt read that link dont know what your refering to though
joopq 3 years ago
maybe u take a look at them?
911MmRy 3 years ago
i dont know what your talkin about, at all. look at what? if you wanna send me something that fits what i asked (the strongest evidence you have agaisnt cd) then feel free. i dont need some extreme closeup of some random dudes head. and atheists depress the shit out of me. i feel so sorry for them.
joopq 3 years ago
I meant the links in this videos description
911MmRy 3 years ago
i dont see any links in this video
joopq 3 years ago
"i dont see any links in this video"
Well, look better.
The video has a large comment section next to it, providing additional information and links.
Esnir 3 years ago
yeah 911 did you mean in this vid or the one you sent me? this vid uses a strawman fallacy. that is why i dislike it. that is when you incorrectly sum up your opponents argument then "debunk" it. i'll send you a little article on that and jones actuall hypothesis
joopq 3 years ago
yeah 911 did you mean in this vid or the one you sent me? this vid uses a strawman fallacy. that is why i dislike it. that is when you incorrectly sum up your opponents argument then "debunk" it. i'll send you a little article on that and jones actuall hypothesis
joopq 3 years ago
Well, you seem to like the video: you are posting under it for several weeks now..
Esnir 3 years ago
your articel talks about alot possabilitys. it COULD be acid rain, but needs further investigation.
for you the could be is already like they found out. while thats the main point of the articel
From a building-safety point of view, the critical question is: Did the eutectic mixture form before the buildings collapsed, or later, as the remains smoldered on the ground. "We have no idea," admits Sisson.
Aanthanur 3 years ago
and together with all the other indications of the use of thermitethermate it is geting time they test it for it.
its like they found a body with alot holes in it. and they come up with all kind of reasons for them, but leave out bullet holes.
Aanthanur 3 years ago
"its like they found a body with alot holes in it. and they come up with all kind of reasons for them, but leave out bullet holes."
Not really, its like arguing thermite must have burned those holes in the body..
Esnir 3 years ago
aanthanur only when thermite is involved.
Eli your a disgustinc propagandist.
you constantly want to put words in my mouth.
you know it was Demolitioned and thats why you are here since months posting your claims you never backup and twist the words of those that point out the strange things, you also try to discredit them with all kind of lies.
you act very very suspect.
Aanthanur 3 years ago
"you constantly want to put words in my mouth."
Nope: i'm just clearing away your smoke screens and state what you are claiming.
You claim Jones found thermite, you claim only thermite could have brought the towers down.
Esnir 3 years ago
"Eli your a disgustinc propagandist.
[..]
you act very very suspect."
Of course i do.
To the troofer, everyon who disagrees with them is a difinfo agent.
And since i disagree with you, you decided to believe i'm a jewish israeli academic from Texas, afraid that my role in 911 comes out in the open, so i'm desperate enough to spent time on youtube challenging claims from people like you..
Esnir 3 years ago
Not really, its like arguing thermite must have burned those holes in the body..
no they talk about all possible things. they bring up acid rain heat and such, but not thermite. and thermite was also found by Dr. Steven E Jones.
its a clear indication and it had to be investigated. and it will be.
Aanthanur 3 y