Alan Grayson also supports AIPAC. For the good Grayson does, he should place the interests of America and its citizens ABOVE the interests of Israel (or any foreign interests). I want to see Grayson speak AIPAC's influence over U.S. foreign policy. Let's hear it Alan Grayson!!!
@loufalce Kinda sounds like the relationship between your mom and dad, Inbred Breeding with Inbred, then the stupid Hoe you call Mom forgot to swallow, thus we now have you, another retarded Voter! XD
Some internet users with a political agenda are here only to badmouth Oliver Stone and his movies. Talent-free, ignorant people back to their usual business. Envy is a deadly sin.
Oliver Stone is a great film director with films and a great body of work under his belt. Get over it dudes and get a life!
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Oliver Stone: liberal, socialist, tyrant loving, America hating failure. Those are no impediment in the sick joke that's 2010 Hollywood but now he's come out as a Jew-hater he might have crossed the line. Here's hoping, DR
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You gotta love this endorsement if you are a patriotic American. Why? Because this highlights just how far to the left that democRATs have become. Oliver Stone is America's Premier Anti-American.
If I were Grayson's opponent, I would run this add too.
@flywheel091 You mean like Plato, Jesus and the Apostles, Pablo Picasso, Pablo Neruda, Frida Kahlo, Gabriel Garcia Marquez, Paul Robson, Woody Guthrie, Ossie Davis, Ruby Dee, Angela Davis, Simone de Beauvoir, Jean Paul Sartre, Jean Luc Godard, Charlie Chaplin, Vanessa Redgraves, Dolores Del Rio, Bertolt Brecht, George Bernard Shaw, Elizabeth Gurley Flynn, Albert Einstein, Claudia Jones, John Lenin, Vladimir Lenin, the first human being in space - Yuri Gagarin, and several billion other people.
@hivernales Yes, I'm amazed that so many socialists/communists rose to the top of their professions in the arts and sciences in the 20th century with the world dominated by rabidly anti-communist capitalist media.
@JayPhilosopher This makes the headlines : " Education FAIL: One Fourth Of American Residents Don't Know That The U.S. Gained Independence From Britain".
No more comment! Ignorance characterizes the USA - hence some people's political radicalism and hateful remarks. They just don't know what they talk about.
I support Alan Grayson for many reasons, but not least amongst them was Congressman Grayson's reference to former Vice President Dick Cheney as a vampire.
I'm not sure how Cheney can walk in the daylight without crumbling into a heap of ash and strewn into the air by a slight breeze, but some things I'll never understand.
Support Alan Grayson- a warrior for peace, and not afraid to call Cheney exactly what he is!
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Oliver Stone's movies are interesting fiction, based on fact. He is an anti-American communist and pushes propaganda of the like. You are who you hang with, and all you have to do is look at who Stone supports and hangs with. As for Grayson, he's an unbelievable moron. I hope he's sent packing.
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My God, Alan Grayson is a professed Communist and member of Code Pink, you dumb ass conspiracy theorist! I see the head conspiracy theorist is very open now about his Marxism. The Marxists know they have a very short time before they are relegated back to the political minority they are in reality. Anybody who supports Socialists and Marxists, we are fucking coming for you in November.
Three time academy award winner Oliver Stone is one of the greatest living filmmakers in the world. If you go anywhere in the world, you will find people who have seen his movies and appreciate his work.
His work brilliantly describes the contradictions and problems of living in our modern times.
In his amazing movies like "Platoon," "Born on the Fourth of July" "Wall street" and "W" he has dealt with serious issues in a serious and subtle way. He should be listened to and heeded.
@downriggershop I thought "Alexander" which he made six years ago was his best work. I saw it in the movies twice, then I bought it when it came out on DVD. I thought the director's commentary he did on the B track was one of the most brilliant expositions of the life of an historical figure that I have ever heard. I bought the director's cut when it came and the final revised cut, which I think is the best of all.
No director in the world has consistently produced such great movies as he has.
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@JayPhilosopher ***no director in the world has consistently produced such great movies as he has***
I would strongly dispute that Jay but acknowledge that taste is subjective so if you find Stone's films appealing then good luck with that. What I find objectionable is his sending a celluloid love note to a kleptocrat like Chavez. Has there ever been a tyrant Ollie didn't like? Ho, Chavez, Ortega - expectina a paean to Mugabe from him soon.
@downriggershop If you walk into a few of the million or so video stores around the world, you will see a wider selection of Oliver Stone videos than just about any other director in the world. So it is not just a subjective opinion.
Under capitalist ideology, any person who dedicates their life to helping the working class obtain political power is labeled a "dictator". This is to short-circuit the fact that the capitalist class are the dictators in reality despite their charades of democracy.
@JayPhilosopher ***you will see a wider selection of Oliver Stone videos than just about any other director in the world***
That's absurd. Stone hasn't had a hit movie in 20 years, corresponding with his tailspin into communism. Capitalists make successful movies Jay, not Reds. Ever heard of Pixar and Dream Works? As to Chavez, he's a thief in the Mugabe mold, and he'll finish up like every other banana dictator.
@downriggershop Stone has directed 18 films over the past 25 years. About 13 of them have been critically and/or financially successful including "Platoon," "Wall Street," "Born of the Fourth of July," "The Doors," "JFK," "Natural Born Killers," "Any Given Sunday," "Alexander," and "World Trade Center". He also produced two hit films, "the Joy Luck Club," and "The People Vs. Larry Flint."
Only Steven Spielberg and Martin Scorsese have been as successful, but they too have had "flops."
@JayPhilosopher Oliver Stone is regarded as a talented scriptwriter and film maker by his peers and moviegoers all over the world. Period. Guess those narrow-minded daytime Fox viewers, hateful extremists in their redneck corner of America just can't get over it. The internet is a nice playground for these retarded people.
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@hivernales ***Oliver Stone is regarded as a talented writer and film maker***
'According to Variety, the film drew just $18,600 from 20 theatres in Venezuela over 12 days, a cold shoulder from the very citizens who, according to Stone, revere Chavez as a hero.'
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@JayPhilosopher ***About 13 of them have been critically and/or financially successful***
From Investor's Business Daily: ' Box Office Mojo reports that the film drew a hefty $21,545 in its opening weekend, and a worldwide total of $125,000'
@downriggershop The film cost under $2 million to make. It was designed to give a point of view, not being given by the conservative mainstream capitalist media. It was not created to make a profit.
Stone's last big movie, "World Trade Center" (2006) cost $65 million to make. It grossed $70 million in the U.S., and made $93 million internationally. It made $36 million in U.S. DVD sales.
His next movie, "Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps," is due out September 24th" Its budget was $70 million.
@downriggershop I am sure that Paramount stockholders do not care if there money comes from domestic or foreign box office. The chart you want to look at is worldwide gross. Out of 413 movies released in 2006, "World Trade Center" ranked number 29. That puts it in the top 7% of movies released in 2006. Another way of looking at it is 93% of the movies released in 2006 brought in less money.
From the Oliver Stone film page: "Oliver Stone, Our Greatest Director...Oliver Stone is one of the only true visionaries left in the contemporary cinema, a director known for his powerful and often controversial films. But beyond the controversy, lies a personal body of work that will long remain an influence in the cinema...He is a director who has delivered countless images of pure cinema beauty and unspeakable horror and tragedy..."
Okay. So why do you keep talking -inaccurately- about how popular Stone's films are, Jay? It's interesting, that his slide into box office flops mirror his slide into leftist agitprop.
@downriggershop His films have grossed over 644 million dollars in the United States and almost as much outside the United States. This puts him in an elite group of about 20 people in the world with film earnings of over one billion dollars. While not as popular as leftwing agitprop directors Steven Spielberg 3.8 billion, U.S., Robert Zemekis, 1.9 billion, U.S., James Cameron 1.9 billion U.S. and George Lucas, 1.8 billion U.S., he is still fantastically successful. So talk about flops is BS.
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@JayPhilosopher ***His films have grossed over 644 million dollars in the United States***
Twenty years ago, before he went nuts, he had a few hit movies. Nothing that got into the top 100 by any means, but commercially successful. He's the Alicia Silverstone of directors, a couple of hits then a two decade string of flops.
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@JayPhilosopher ***From the Oliver Stone film page: "Oliver Stone, Our Greatest Director...Oliver Stone is one***
Yes, that is the way Stone likes to applaud himself. Just look at the video above, all Ollie all the time. The trouble is, movie ticket buyers aren't as impressed with the left wing BS he turns out these days.
@downriggershop The website was set up by a fan named James O'brien. He set up the website in 1995 to honor Oliver Stone. He apparently has only met Stone once in 2005.
The only problem with this theory is that "Alexander" (2004) and "World Trade Center" (2006) both did about as well in selling tickets worldwide as "J.F.K" and "Wall Street" had done a decade before, and those films were considered more "left wing" than the two later films. So it is completely absurd and doesn't match reality.
@downriggershop Alexander was relentlessly attacked by dumb conservative critics because he told the truth about Alexander's bi-sexuality which is well attested to in the ancient sources. What they missed with this nonsense was that this was the most intelligent "epic" film about ancient times in over 40 years, since "Ben Hur" and "Spartacus," which were also socialist agit-prop films. "Alexander" also contains two of the greatest battle scenes ever filmed. I think it is Stone's masterpiece.
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@JayPhilosopher ***"Ben Hur" and "Spartacus," which were also socialist agit-prop films***
He! What demented nonsense. Did you check the box office for Alexander, Jay? Movie goers didn't want to see a swords and sandals version of Brokeback Mountain. Stone is the new Michael Cimino, a couple of over rated hits then a decade of flops.
@downriggershop The movie "Alexander" contains about five references to his bi-sexuality and a couple of brief non-erotic, non-sexual scenes lasting about two minutes total screen time that deals with it. It shows how amazingly dumb conservative film critics are that they would latch onto this detail and ignore the astonishing visual imagery, and the amazingly rich tapestry of historical ideas, customs, attitudes, actions and feelings that the other 3 hours of the film deals with.
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@JayPhilosopher ***how amazingly dumb conservative film critics***
Amazing. Stone makes yet another zillion dollar flop, and it's the movie going public who's at fault. I can see why you've bonded to him Jay, self-absorption is a terrible thing.
@downriggershop I have a B.F.A. in film making, so I appreciate great movie directors like Oliver Stone. I also appreciate Charlie Chaplin, Orson Welles, Robert Altman, John Sayles, Michael Moore, Akira Kurasawa, William Wyler, Edgar Ulmer, Sergei Eisenstein, Francois Truffaut, Jean Luc Godard, Bernardo Bertolucci, Woody Allen, Alfred Hitchcock, Jean Renoir,Howard Hawks, Luis Bunuel, and Terry Gilliam. It is not my fault if nearly all great filmmakers have been progressives and socialist.
LOL! I'd rather watch one George Stevens picture, than all your favourites' collective back catalogues. No wonder you're so dismissive of commercial failure Jay, I bet you have a pair of Jacques Tati boots. Gimme Pixar anytime.
@downriggershop I should have included George Stevens. He made "A Place in the Sun" based on the socialist novelist Theodor Dreiser's "An American Tragedy." The Soviet director Sergei Eisenstein had wanted to make a film of this great anti-capitalist book when he came to America in 1932. The studio bosses at first agreed and he spent six months writing a script. In the end, they refused to let him do it. Stevens bravely produced this great anti-capitalism film in the McCarthy period in 1951.
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@JayPhilosopher ***Stevens bravely produced this great anti-capitalism film in the McCarthy period in 1951***
LOL! George Stevens loved America, Jay. And he'd seen what socialism produced, at Dachau. Do you really think someone who despised the American way of life could make 'Shane'? Keep twisting in the wind, I'm enjoying your discomfort.
@downriggeAs David Boxwell wrote in 1992, "Recognising nicknames in his films enables us to also recognise how much Hawks' films refuse or counteract, as Robin Wood wrote in 1981, the dominant ideology espoused by most Hollywood studio product. That is to say, as Wood puts it: "capitalism, the right to ownership; the home, the family, the monogamous couple; patriarchy. . ."
He also notes "his oeuvre's remarkable avoidance of Hollywood's religiosity, bathos, flag-waving, and sentimentality."
Right. No flag waving, from the man who made 'Sergeant York.' No sentimentality, from the man who made four Westerns with John Wayne. No bathos, from the man who made 'Bringing Up Baby.' Are Boxwell and Wood like yourself, Jay? Tortuously manipulating history, to fit your liberal worldview?
@downriggershop In 1954, Francois Truffaut called Howard Hawks “the most underestimated of Hollywood filmmakers.” He said, “His films are divided into adventures and comedies. The former are a tribute to man. They celebrate his intelligence and his physical and moral greatness. The latter are aimed at his degeneration and the emptiness in modern society."
I should be mention that John Wayne's movies of the 1930's espoused Roosevelt's socialist policies. Wayne changed when he became rich.
@JayPhilosopher ***I should be mention that John Wayne's movies of the 1930's espoused Roosevelt's socialist policies****
He! Yeah, lots of socialist propaganda in 'Stagecoach' Jay, unfortunately you're the only viewer who's seen it. You do realise that your left wing views are merely preemptive excuses, for anticipated failure in the movie *business*? Drop that baggage, or you'll end up as embittered and irrelevant as Stone.
@downriggershop I was thinking of the movies he did for Monogram between 1933-1935. I especially had in mind the first one, "Riders of Destiny," where he plays Singing Sandy Saunders. A ruthless capitalist is using water rights to destroy the lives of poor ranchers. They write to Washington to beg for help. Wayne rides in and faces down the capitalist and his gun-slinging cronies. In the end, it turns out that he is the secret agent sent by Washington to help the ranchers. The message is clear.
@JayPhilosopher Right. So out of the 150+ movies Wayne made, you find a socialist message in one no-one's ever heard of? I can see how you thought Stevens was a socialist, too. Van Heflin in 'Shane' was an under the radar Red agent, sodbusters are capitalists too. Thinking about Wayne's closet socialism, explain 'The Green Berets'?
@downriggershop Wayne was not a closet socialism, he claimed to have been a socialist in college. In the 1930's, he was a minor cowboy star in generally low budget Westerns, he had a liberal ideology and made films with a liberal-progressive ideology. In the 1940's, he became a major star and quite wealthy. At that point his ideology changed and he became increasingly conservative. The "Green Berets" did okay in '68. It made $21 Million. The same month, Polanski's "Rosemary's Baby" made $33 mil.
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@JayPhilosopher ***he had a liberal ideology and made films with a liberal-progressive ideology***
Uh huh. 'Stagecoach', liberal-progressive. It's kind of scary Jay, to realise how cocooned your kind is, going to film school with your berets on. Because only by insulating yourself from the real world could you come up with something this absurd. As to becoming successful in films and dropping the socialist baggage, sadly that won't be happening to you. Or, Oliver Stone.
@downriggershop You do realize that "Stagecoach" was directed by John Ford. In 1937, Ford described himself as a "socialist democrat." In 1940, the year after "Stagecoach" Ford made John Steinbeck's "Grapes of Wrath," a film that is considered the most openly socialist of any film made in Hollywood in the 1930's and 1940's. The writer if Stagecoach, Dudley Nichols, was a liberal who supported Joseph Stalin's call for a popular front against fascism. He was a founder of the screenwriter's guild.
From Michael Coyne's review of "John Ford's Stagecoach.":
NIchols and Ford "were members of the Motion Picture Artists Committee to Aid Republican Spain. Yet Maland draws on previous biographers of Ford to illustrate that the director was not as consistently committed to liberal causes as was Nichols, and following from this he deduces that Stagecoach’s distinctly liberal-New Deal ethos is more attributable to Nichols than to Ford."
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@JayPhilosopher What's your take on Stone's humiliating apology this week, Jay? I'm guessing idolizing wannabe Hitlers like Chavez is okay, but paeans to the real thing might upset a few studio bosses.
@downriggershop Stone meant to attack the American Jewish Committee, but either through the journalist's mistake or his own, his comments came off as attacking Jews generally. He quickly set the record straight.
What was really disgusting was the media's wholesale misinterpretation of his remarks. He did not defend Hitler, he noted that other people were responsible for the rise to power of the Nazis. He did not deny the Holocaust, but noted that it is taught in a selective and distorted manner.
Big deal. Have you ever made anything that people would pay to watch? Take a long hard look at yourself, pal. Your politics are crippling your potential.
Leftist movie director Oliver Stone praised his favorite South American communist strongman Hugo Chavez. “I admire Hugo. I like him very much as a person,” Stone said in Caracas, Venezuela. Stone shared his affection for Chavez with the world. “He’s a soldier and he speaks from his heart,” said Stone. The media downplays the fact that Chavez openly works with terrorist groups Hamas, Hezbollah, and FARC. Hamas and Hezbollah have offices in Caracas and Chavez funds FARC. And Stone loves this guy!
Right on brothers! We have the ability and technology to have a prosperous earth for everyone. War profits only the military industrial complex and global bank-stirs and wastes resources. ( .!.. ) The earth and her people have always been abundantly rich. There is no scarcity there is only the deception that is money and corporate power over OUR governments. Is money the root of all evil - maybe? The way is cooperation not competition.
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Oliver.....What a pathetic soul. This poor man has suffered a very sad life. Movies that may have indicated the effects of agent orange or other substances on his center of reality.... Very sad!!!
Alan Grayson also supports AIPAC. For the good Grayson does, he should place the interests of America and its citizens ABOVE the interests of Israel (or any foreign interests). I want to see Grayson speak AIPAC's influence over U.S. foreign policy. Let's hear it Alan Grayson!!!
noaid2israel 3 months ago
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Inbred supporting inbred
loufalce 1 year ago
@loufalce Kinda sounds like the relationship between your mom and dad, Inbred Breeding with Inbred, then the stupid Hoe you call Mom forgot to swallow, thus we now have you, another retarded Voter! XD
deeppurple28 3 months ago
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These people are dangerous Communists.
Minuteman9112012 1 year ago
Some internet users with a political agenda are here only to badmouth Oliver Stone and his movies. Talent-free, ignorant people back to their usual business. Envy is a deadly sin.
Oliver Stone is a great film director with films and a great body of work under his belt. Get over it dudes and get a life!
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hivernales 1 year ago
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Oliver Stone: liberal, socialist, tyrant loving, America hating failure. Those are no impediment in the sick joke that's 2010 Hollywood but now he's come out as a Jew-hater he might have crossed the line. Here's hoping, DR
downriggershop 1 year ago
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You gotta love this endorsement if you are a patriotic American. Why? Because this highlights just how far to the left that democRATs have become. Oliver Stone is America's Premier Anti-American.
If I were Grayson's opponent, I would run this add too.
Hollywood hates America, and so do democRATs.
cajunstrat 1 year ago
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GRAYSON AND STONE ARE COMMUNISTS
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flywheel091 1 year ago
@flywheel091 You mean like Plato, Jesus and the Apostles, Pablo Picasso, Pablo Neruda, Frida Kahlo, Gabriel Garcia Marquez, Paul Robson, Woody Guthrie, Ossie Davis, Ruby Dee, Angela Davis, Simone de Beauvoir, Jean Paul Sartre, Jean Luc Godard, Charlie Chaplin, Vanessa Redgraves, Dolores Del Rio, Bertolt Brecht, George Bernard Shaw, Elizabeth Gurley Flynn, Albert Einstein, Claudia Jones, John Lenin, Vladimir Lenin, the first human being in space - Yuri Gagarin, and several billion other people.
JayPhilosopher 1 year ago 5
@JayPhilosopher He probably never heard of them all -). As ignorant as they are vocal ....
hivernales 1 year ago 9
@hivernales Yes, I'm amazed that so many socialists/communists rose to the top of their professions in the arts and sciences in the 20th century with the world dominated by rabidly anti-communist capitalist media.
JayPhilosopher 1 year ago 3
@JayPhilosopher This makes the headlines : " Education FAIL: One Fourth Of American Residents Don't Know That The U.S. Gained Independence From Britain".
No more comment! Ignorance characterizes the USA - hence some people's political radicalism and hateful remarks. They just don't know what they talk about.
hivernales 1 year ago 14
I support Alan Grayson for many reasons, but not least amongst them was Congressman Grayson's reference to former Vice President Dick Cheney as a vampire.
I'm not sure how Cheney can walk in the daylight without crumbling into a heap of ash and strewn into the air by a slight breeze, but some things I'll never understand.
Support Alan Grayson- a warrior for peace, and not afraid to call Cheney exactly what he is!
bigollameo 1 year ago 3
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FUK YOU Oliver stone!
Why dont you go move to Venezuela and suck more Chavez cok..... GTFO out of my country you piece of $hit progressives!!!
owentimo 1 year ago
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Oliver Stone's movies are interesting fiction, based on fact. He is an anti-American communist and pushes propaganda of the like. You are who you hang with, and all you have to do is look at who Stone supports and hangs with. As for Grayson, he's an unbelievable moron. I hope he's sent packing.
veprii 1 year ago
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Oliver Stone can suck my dick! Go to your peace loving fascist Hugo Chavez! For a former soldier, your a pussy!
hubbell627 1 year ago
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My God, Alan Grayson is a professed Communist and member of Code Pink, you dumb ass conspiracy theorist! I see the head conspiracy theorist is very open now about his Marxism. The Marxists know they have a very short time before they are relegated back to the political minority they are in reality. Anybody who supports Socialists and Marxists, we are fucking coming for you in November.
TTURedRaidr 1 year ago
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Dumb and dumber.
These boys need to be front and center every day.
Pkrbkr51 1 year ago
AIPAC
Postmodernobjection 1 year ago
Three time academy award winner Oliver Stone is one of the greatest living filmmakers in the world. If you go anywhere in the world, you will find people who have seen his movies and appreciate his work.
His work brilliantly describes the contradictions and problems of living in our modern times.
In his amazing movies like "Platoon," "Born on the Fourth of July" "Wall street" and "W" he has dealt with serious issues in a serious and subtle way. He should be listened to and heeded.
JayPhilosopher 1 year ago 9
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@JayPhilosopher ***Oliver Stone is one of the greatest living filmmakers in the world***
The movie going public has decided otherwise. 'Platoon' was made 25 years ago. How long can Red Ollie keep trading on his one genuine success?
downriggershop 1 year ago
@downriggershop I thought "Alexander" which he made six years ago was his best work. I saw it in the movies twice, then I bought it when it came out on DVD. I thought the director's commentary he did on the B track was one of the most brilliant expositions of the life of an historical figure that I have ever heard. I bought the director's cut when it came and the final revised cut, which I think is the best of all.
No director in the world has consistently produced such great movies as he has.
JayPhilosopher 1 year ago
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@JayPhilosopher ***no director in the world has consistently produced such great movies as he has***
I would strongly dispute that Jay but acknowledge that taste is subjective so if you find Stone's films appealing then good luck with that. What I find objectionable is his sending a celluloid love note to a kleptocrat like Chavez. Has there ever been a tyrant Ollie didn't like? Ho, Chavez, Ortega - expectina a paean to Mugabe from him soon.
downriggershop 1 year ago
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@downriggershop Stone's films are stupid as hell and miss the mark. He sucks as a producer.
TTURedRaidr 1 year ago
@downriggershop If you walk into a few of the million or so video stores around the world, you will see a wider selection of Oliver Stone videos than just about any other director in the world. So it is not just a subjective opinion.
Under capitalist ideology, any person who dedicates their life to helping the working class obtain political power is labeled a "dictator". This is to short-circuit the fact that the capitalist class are the dictators in reality despite their charades of democracy.
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@JayPhilosopher ***you will see a wider selection of Oliver Stone videos than just about any other director in the world***
That's absurd. Stone hasn't had a hit movie in 20 years, corresponding with his tailspin into communism. Capitalists make successful movies Jay, not Reds. Ever heard of Pixar and Dream Works? As to Chavez, he's a thief in the Mugabe mold, and he'll finish up like every other banana dictator.
downriggershop 1 year ago
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@JayPhilosopher ***a few of the million or so video stores around the world, you will see a wider selection of Oliver Stone videos***
Puh-leez. The old phony's had more flops than Megan Fox.
downriggershop 1 year ago
@downriggershop Stone has directed 18 films over the past 25 years. About 13 of them have been critically and/or financially successful including "Platoon," "Wall Street," "Born of the Fourth of July," "The Doors," "JFK," "Natural Born Killers," "Any Given Sunday," "Alexander," and "World Trade Center". He also produced two hit films, "the Joy Luck Club," and "The People Vs. Larry Flint."
Only Steven Spielberg and Martin Scorsese have been as successful, but they too have had "flops."
JayPhilosopher 1 year ago 2
@JayPhilosopher Oliver Stone is regarded as a talented scriptwriter and film maker by his peers and moviegoers all over the world. Period. Guess those narrow-minded daytime Fox viewers, hateful extremists in their redneck corner of America just can't get over it. The internet is a nice playground for these retarded people.
hivernales 1 year ago 15
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@hivernales ***Oliver Stone is regarded as a talented writer and film maker***
'According to Variety, the film drew just $18,600 from 20 theatres in Venezuela over 12 days, a cold shoulder from the very citizens who, according to Stone, revere Chavez as a hero.'
downriggershop 1 year ago
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@JayPhilosopher ***About 13 of them have been critically and/or financially successful***
From Investor's Business Daily: ' Box Office Mojo reports that the film drew a hefty $21,545 in its opening weekend, and a worldwide total of $125,000'
downriggershop 1 year ago
@downriggershop The film cost under $2 million to make. It was designed to give a point of view, not being given by the conservative mainstream capitalist media. It was not created to make a profit.
Stone's last big movie, "World Trade Center" (2006) cost $65 million to make. It grossed $70 million in the U.S., and made $93 million internationally. It made $36 million in U.S. DVD sales.
His next movie, "Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps," is due out September 24th" Its budget was $70 million.
JayPhilosopher 1 year ago 4
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@JayPhilosopher ***Stone's last big movie, "World Trade Center" (2006) cost $65 million to make***
'World Trade Center' ranks #741 in domestic box office rating, Jay. That's not 'big.'
That's 'small.'
downriggershop 1 year ago
@downriggershop I am sure that Paramount stockholders do not care if there money comes from domestic or foreign box office. The chart you want to look at is worldwide gross. Out of 413 movies released in 2006, "World Trade Center" ranked number 29. That puts it in the top 7% of movies released in 2006. Another way of looking at it is 93% of the movies released in 2006 brought in less money.
JayPhilosopher 1 year ago 6
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@JayPhilosopher ***wider selection of Oliver Stone videos than just about any other director in the world***
What utter nonsense, Jay. Check filmsite org, Stone hasn't even got a movie in the top 100. Keep the lies coming, DR
downriggershop 1 year ago
@downriggershop Popularity does not equal artistry.
From the Oliver Stone film page: "Oliver Stone, Our Greatest Director...Oliver Stone is one of the only true visionaries left in the contemporary cinema, a director known for his powerful and often controversial films. But beyond the controversy, lies a personal body of work that will long remain an influence in the cinema...He is a director who has delivered countless images of pure cinema beauty and unspeakable horror and tragedy..."
JayPhilosopher 1 year ago 11
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@JayPhilosopher ***Popularity does not equal artistry***
Okay. So why do you keep talking -inaccurately- about how popular Stone's films are, Jay? It's interesting, that his slide into box office flops mirror his slide into leftist agitprop.
downriggershop 1 year ago
@downriggershop His films have grossed over 644 million dollars in the United States and almost as much outside the United States. This puts him in an elite group of about 20 people in the world with film earnings of over one billion dollars. While not as popular as leftwing agitprop directors Steven Spielberg 3.8 billion, U.S., Robert Zemekis, 1.9 billion, U.S., James Cameron 1.9 billion U.S. and George Lucas, 1.8 billion U.S., he is still fantastically successful. So talk about flops is BS.
JayPhilosopher 1 year ago 4
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@JayPhilosopher ***His films have grossed over 644 million dollars in the United States***
Twenty years ago, before he went nuts, he had a few hit movies. Nothing that got into the top 100 by any means, but commercially successful. He's the Alicia Silverstone of directors, a couple of hits then a two decade string of flops.
downriggershop 1 year ago
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@JayPhilosopher ***From the Oliver Stone film page: "Oliver Stone, Our Greatest Director...Oliver Stone is one***
Yes, that is the way Stone likes to applaud himself. Just look at the video above, all Ollie all the time. The trouble is, movie ticket buyers aren't as impressed with the left wing BS he turns out these days.
downriggershop 1 year ago
@downriggershop The website was set up by a fan named James O'brien. He set up the website in 1995 to honor Oliver Stone. He apparently has only met Stone once in 2005.
The only problem with this theory is that "Alexander" (2004) and "World Trade Center" (2006) both did about as well in selling tickets worldwide as "J.F.K" and "Wall Street" had done a decade before, and those films were considered more "left wing" than the two later films. So it is completely absurd and doesn't match reality.
JayPhilosopher 1 year ago 7
@JayPhilosopher 'Alexander'?? Jay, gay agitprop is pretty left wing too.
downriggershop 1 year ago
@downriggershop Alexander was relentlessly attacked by dumb conservative critics because he told the truth about Alexander's bi-sexuality which is well attested to in the ancient sources. What they missed with this nonsense was that this was the most intelligent "epic" film about ancient times in over 40 years, since "Ben Hur" and "Spartacus," which were also socialist agit-prop films. "Alexander" also contains two of the greatest battle scenes ever filmed. I think it is Stone's masterpiece.
JayPhilosopher 1 year ago 5
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@JayPhilosopher ***"Ben Hur" and "Spartacus," which were also socialist agit-prop films***
He! What demented nonsense. Did you check the box office for Alexander, Jay? Movie goers didn't want to see a swords and sandals version of Brokeback Mountain. Stone is the new Michael Cimino, a couple of over rated hits then a decade of flops.
downriggershop 1 year ago
@downriggershop The movie "Alexander" contains about five references to his bi-sexuality and a couple of brief non-erotic, non-sexual scenes lasting about two minutes total screen time that deals with it. It shows how amazingly dumb conservative film critics are that they would latch onto this detail and ignore the astonishing visual imagery, and the amazingly rich tapestry of historical ideas, customs, attitudes, actions and feelings that the other 3 hours of the film deals with.
JayPhilosopher 1 year ago 3
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@JayPhilosopher ***how amazingly dumb conservative film critics***
Amazing. Stone makes yet another zillion dollar flop, and it's the movie going public who's at fault. I can see why you've bonded to him Jay, self-absorption is a terrible thing.
downriggershop 1 year ago
@downriggershop I have a B.F.A. in film making, so I appreciate great movie directors like Oliver Stone. I also appreciate Charlie Chaplin, Orson Welles, Robert Altman, John Sayles, Michael Moore, Akira Kurasawa, William Wyler, Edgar Ulmer, Sergei Eisenstein, Francois Truffaut, Jean Luc Godard, Bernardo Bertolucci, Woody Allen, Alfred Hitchcock, Jean Renoir,Howard Hawks, Luis Bunuel, and Terry Gilliam. It is not my fault if nearly all great filmmakers have been progressives and socialist.
JayPhilosopher 1 year ago 5
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LOL! I'd rather watch one George Stevens picture, than all your favourites' collective back catalogues. No wonder you're so dismissive of commercial failure Jay, I bet you have a pair of Jacques Tati boots. Gimme Pixar anytime.
downriggershop 1 year ago
@downriggershop I should have included George Stevens. He made "A Place in the Sun" based on the socialist novelist Theodor Dreiser's "An American Tragedy." The Soviet director Sergei Eisenstein had wanted to make a film of this great anti-capitalist book when he came to America in 1932. The studio bosses at first agreed and he spent six months writing a script. In the end, they refused to let him do it. Stevens bravely produced this great anti-capitalism film in the McCarthy period in 1951.
JayPhilosopher 1 year ago
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@JayPhilosopher ***Stevens bravely produced this great anti-capitalism film in the McCarthy period in 1951***
LOL! George Stevens loved America, Jay. And he'd seen what socialism produced, at Dachau. Do you really think someone who despised the American way of life could make 'Shane'? Keep twisting in the wind, I'm enjoying your discomfort.
downriggershop 1 year ago
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PS Howard Hawks, a socialist?
downriggershop 1 year ago
@downriggeAs David Boxwell wrote in 1992, "Recognising nicknames in his films enables us to also recognise how much Hawks' films refuse or counteract, as Robin Wood wrote in 1981, the dominant ideology espoused by most Hollywood studio product. That is to say, as Wood puts it: "capitalism, the right to ownership; the home, the family, the monogamous couple; patriarchy. . ."
He also notes "his oeuvre's remarkable avoidance of Hollywood's religiosity, bathos, flag-waving, and sentimentality."
JayPhilosopher 1 year ago 3
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Right. No flag waving, from the man who made 'Sergeant York.' No sentimentality, from the man who made four Westerns with John Wayne. No bathos, from the man who made 'Bringing Up Baby.' Are Boxwell and Wood like yourself, Jay? Tortuously manipulating history, to fit your liberal worldview?
downriggershop 1 year ago
@downriggershop In 1954, Francois Truffaut called Howard Hawks “the most underestimated of Hollywood filmmakers.” He said, “His films are divided into adventures and comedies. The former are a tribute to man. They celebrate his intelligence and his physical and moral greatness. The latter are aimed at his degeneration and the emptiness in modern society."
I should be mention that John Wayne's movies of the 1930's espoused Roosevelt's socialist policies. Wayne changed when he became rich.
JayPhilosopher 1 year ago
@JayPhilosopher ***I should be mention that John Wayne's movies of the 1930's espoused Roosevelt's socialist policies****
He! Yeah, lots of socialist propaganda in 'Stagecoach' Jay, unfortunately you're the only viewer who's seen it. You do realise that your left wing views are merely preemptive excuses, for anticipated failure in the movie *business*? Drop that baggage, or you'll end up as embittered and irrelevant as Stone.
downriggershop 1 year ago
@downriggershop I was thinking of the movies he did for Monogram between 1933-1935. I especially had in mind the first one, "Riders of Destiny," where he plays Singing Sandy Saunders. A ruthless capitalist is using water rights to destroy the lives of poor ranchers. They write to Washington to beg for help. Wayne rides in and faces down the capitalist and his gun-slinging cronies. In the end, it turns out that he is the secret agent sent by Washington to help the ranchers. The message is clear.
JayPhilosopher 1 year ago
@JayPhilosopher Right. So out of the 150+ movies Wayne made, you find a socialist message in one no-one's ever heard of? I can see how you thought Stevens was a socialist, too. Van Heflin in 'Shane' was an under the radar Red agent, sodbusters are capitalists too. Thinking about Wayne's closet socialism, explain 'The Green Berets'?
downriggershop 1 year ago
@downriggershop Wayne was not a closet socialism, he claimed to have been a socialist in college. In the 1930's, he was a minor cowboy star in generally low budget Westerns, he had a liberal ideology and made films with a liberal-progressive ideology. In the 1940's, he became a major star and quite wealthy. At that point his ideology changed and he became increasingly conservative. The "Green Berets" did okay in '68. It made $21 Million. The same month, Polanski's "Rosemary's Baby" made $33 mil.
JayPhilosopher 1 year ago
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@JayPhilosopher ***he had a liberal ideology and made films with a liberal-progressive ideology***
Uh huh. 'Stagecoach', liberal-progressive. It's kind of scary Jay, to realise how cocooned your kind is, going to film school with your berets on. Because only by insulating yourself from the real world could you come up with something this absurd. As to becoming successful in films and dropping the socialist baggage, sadly that won't be happening to you. Or, Oliver Stone.
downriggershop 1 year ago
@downriggershop You do realize that "Stagecoach" was directed by John Ford. In 1937, Ford described himself as a "socialist democrat." In 1940, the year after "Stagecoach" Ford made John Steinbeck's "Grapes of Wrath," a film that is considered the most openly socialist of any film made in Hollywood in the 1930's and 1940's. The writer if Stagecoach, Dudley Nichols, was a liberal who supported Joseph Stalin's call for a popular front against fascism. He was a founder of the screenwriter's guild.
JayPhilosopher 1 year ago
@JayPhilosopher ***The writer if Stagecoach, Dudley Nichols, was a liberal***
Wow. I heard a whisper that one of the on set cafeteria ladies had a copy of Das Kapital, in her handbag. Any truth to that one, Jay?
downriggershop 1 year ago
@downriggershop The ideology of Stagecoach is pretty clear.
From Michael Coyne's review of "John Ford's Stagecoach.":
NIchols and Ford "were members of the Motion Picture Artists Committee to Aid Republican Spain. Yet Maland draws on previous biographers of Ford to illustrate that the director was not as consistently committed to liberal causes as was Nichols, and following from this he deduces that Stagecoach’s distinctly liberal-New Deal ethos is more attributable to Nichols than to Ford."
JayPhilosopher 1 year ago
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@JayPhilosopher What's your take on Stone's humiliating apology this week, Jay? I'm guessing idolizing wannabe Hitlers like Chavez is okay, but paeans to the real thing might upset a few studio bosses.
downriggershop 1 year ago
@downriggershop Stone meant to attack the American Jewish Committee, but either through the journalist's mistake or his own, his comments came off as attacking Jews generally. He quickly set the record straight.
What was really disgusting was the media's wholesale misinterpretation of his remarks. He did not defend Hitler, he noted that other people were responsible for the rise to power of the Nazis. He did not deny the Holocaust, but noted that it is taught in a selective and distorted manner.
JayPhilosopher 1 year ago 40
@JayPhilosopher ***I have a B.F.A. in film making***
Big deal. Have you ever made anything that people would pay to watch? Take a long hard look at yourself, pal. Your politics are crippling your potential.
downriggershop 1 year ago
@downriggershop This film site lists three lists of the top 100 films. Oliver Stone has two films listed, "Platoon" and "JFK."
JayPhilosopher 1 year ago 5
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@JayPhilosopher ***any person who dedicates their life to helping the working class***
Jay, if Chavez has dedicated his life to helping the working class, why won't Venezuelans watch Stone's fanboy tribute to him?
downriggershop 1 year ago
Alan Grayson is a fuckin' cheeseball and this ad sounds like a love story between 2 fruitcakes. "Brokeback Grayson Mountain"
JimboVids 1 year ago
Leftist movie director Oliver Stone praised his favorite South American communist strongman Hugo Chavez. “I admire Hugo. I like him very much as a person,” Stone said in Caracas, Venezuela. Stone shared his affection for Chavez with the world. “He’s a soldier and he speaks from his heart,” said Stone. The media downplays the fact that Chavez openly works with terrorist groups Hamas, Hezbollah, and FARC. Hamas and Hezbollah have offices in Caracas and Chavez funds FARC. And Stone loves this guy!
AmericanValuesVoter 1 year ago
@AmericanValuesVoter ***I admire Hugo. I like him very much as a person***
Leni Riefenstahl : 'I admire Adolf. I like him very much as a person.'
downriggershop 1 year ago
Just another douchebag. Obama is half republican? LOLOLOLOL You wanted the fucking liberal idiot, you got him.
rk92559 1 year ago
what's with the music, kinda creepy
Noquitterlvnv 1 year ago
'Never ending war' as economic policy must end, for all our sakes.
Yes, support Alan Grayson ... with guts enough to tell the truth. Truth is something we can take action on, together.
Together we might have a hope of survival, and a world left worth passing on to our children.
Wolfiemouse 1 year ago 3
My favorite director on my favorite member of Congress. Awesome.
PattySoandSo 1 year ago 4
Right on brothers! We have the ability and technology to have a prosperous earth for everyone. War profits only the military industrial complex and global bank-stirs and wastes resources. ( .!.. ) The earth and her people have always been abundantly rich. There is no scarcity there is only the deception that is money and corporate power over OUR governments. Is money the root of all evil - maybe? The way is cooperation not competition.
Peace out :)
mrscot 1 year ago 16
Soldier of Peace
/watch?v=Dcn6OmGF5Rk&
iknewitalready 1 year ago 2
We need more people like Grayson. Some of our representatives are brain dead!
jeanJenner 1 year ago 5
Alan Grayson is super cool.
lambrightdotcom 1 year ago 2
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Oliver.....What a pathetic soul. This poor man has suffered a very sad life. Movies that may have indicated the effects of agent orange or other substances on his center of reality.... Very sad!!!
phineastbuster 1 year ago
Grayson ROCKS!!
Let's also remember Tim Walz-- a perfect example of who we need in Congress, and beyond!
26095 1 year ago 3
You go get em Grayson. You're pretty much the only person REALLY fighting for us now. Is Obama? Not really.
Grayson for PRESIDENT 2012!
pbmdh 1 year ago 5
@pbmdh He'd be a HUGE improvement over Obama.
What a worthless, ballless waste of space Obama turned out to be. I voted for CHANGE and got nothing but the same old bullshit.
When it comes to republican ass, Obama doesn't know the difference between kiss and kick. Grayson does.
yt5454 1 year ago
@pbmdh X2, I am F'en sick of Obama and his half assed republican ways, this is not the change we voted for. Grayson all the way!
evromsd 1 year ago