HD Starcraft 2 d.Select v EG.Idra g4

[Dreez76]

"Idra doesn't like to change his gameplay according to his opponent". That is kinda fail considering he is playing Zerg right?. Since they are considered by the majority of players to be a "reactionary" race. I could be wrong.

[Dreez76]

HD... a great game doesn't end in 4 minutes. A great game takes at least 30 minutes and has a TON of macro-combat... All the games sofar with SeleCT Vs Idra are crap.. short games.

[KrnShadow65]

holy god gg.

[GlookRUS]

you need be really stupid to lost with zerg. cos they are op

[Uraken74]

Reapers are terrible. Have they ever actually killed more than their cost?

[ollie1351]

steel iron fists lol

[billycorganisgod]

idra= wooden fists lol

[billycorganisgod]

I'm gonna be a dipshit and say HD, 15:06 "worser" is not a word haha

[SuperNova457]

Select won again, failll idra

[Soulfrost09]

@SuperNova457 No you fail.



[SuperNova457]

@Soulfrost09

the joke

----------whoosh

your head

[xdelbarrio]

There are no op races, just players that get the best out of a race. Appart from that i think terran macro is the hardest :s

[ZerkTB]

Your mouse isnt the only thing getting excited :p

[razzp25]

Lol army split in 2 major balls WTF?!?

[Qwerty48121]

sensor towers... get them

[MrKarolynaz]

Zerg is OP from the first beta. And in future expansion - even more powerful. it's not interesting to play with zerg or against zerg. You will always win, even if you will go only zerglings.

[evelic]

@MrKarolynaz what are talking about dude, didnt you see how the terran armies just holded the zerg attacks. Zerg is not OP, far from that, i think it is balanced, protoss is a little underpower and terran for sure is OP. Just look at the EMP from ghosts, and compare it to the infestors fungle grow, it didnt even kill the marines.

[MrKarolynaz]

@evelic You have to think with protoss or terran, plan your strategy. And with zerg - you can only build one unit and win in any case scenario. Just build mass hydra or mass flying t-rex (how husky allways says:) ) and You have 90% chance to win a game. You can't do that with T or P.

[Sanoj1234567]

@MrKarolynaz what?



[HaffeGlimt]

@Sanoj1234567 :PPP whaatt

[stretch90]

@MrKarolynaz

lol, yeah.......

[Smashfan258]

@MrKarolynaz I'm a protoss player and I think it's balanced if anything they got the short end of the power stick and they're weaker than the rest

[Blopfury]

@MrKarolynaz Ok. Go play zerg 1v1 and see.

[ngg971]

@MrKarolynaz

Are you kidding? Playing as Zerg is incredibly challenging, you have to be continuously on top of your macro and scouting, much more so than Toss or Terran.

[MrKarolynaz]

@ngg971 And excatcly why to scout? Just build your base, defend with statics your 1&2 expansion and just build mass hydra. Attack after your enemy do drop or smth like that and it's 90% chance that you will win the game. Where is this " incredibly challenging"? I agree that it's hard to play with zerg if you try to do other stuff, but why to bother? Zerg is s swarm, just build mass hydra, or Mutalisk. BTW, how exactly mutalisk fly in space?:)

[ngg971]

@MrKarolynaz

Mass hydra? Which version of SC2 have you been playing? That NEVER works, you invariably get stomped by tanks/colossi. In fact, hydra is probably the worse unit in the Zerg arsenal.

You should probably consider brushing up your strategy.

[KakuKachoO]

@MrKarolynaz No zerg was super UP in the beta water you talking about bro? Terran was the OP race in the beta.

[chrisjk123]

Surprised SeleCt survived that long.

[bregolingo]

Great series

[ZeroTheUltimate0]

All power to the Sauron Zerg.

[PhantomAct]

now i understand why the french surrendered to the germans in ww2

[phobiazzzero]

wtf is a crackling?

[LilGTWarrior1028]

@phobiazzzero its a zergling with a adrendal glands upgrade.

[scotttlp]

Anti top comments.

[ImMrBole]

bagels!

[shadowtygo]

Don't fuck with zerg macro power.

[TheLonelysun22]

dude, the freaking "The Devil Inside" is freaking scary...



[WishyLH]

SPOILER! IDRA ALWAYS HAS A HOT DATE WAITING. That's why his games are fast.

[billycorganisgod]

@WishyLH ummm i dont get it ? a hot date? the guys a fucking snotty little nerd no girls would like him

[SliSavage07]

@billycorganisgod have you seen his girlfriend?

[Hu6CityRidah]

@billycorganisgod nah bro. Idra's girlfriend is hot as hell

[nAiFk1e]

when u say anti spoiler right away i know there was too much spam about idras rage

[Blessbh]

i loved idra's previous game with like mass roaches and zerglings. man those were fun, idra is going a little slow this game imo

[waytrap]

@xtheshame well idra plays the same basic way every game. If he's forced to change it he gg's. SelecT has been playing nonstandard, it's hard not to focus on his builds a bit more.

[xtheshame]

Does HD know select? like are they BFFs or something? ive never heard such a biased cast in my life.

[fearfactz1]

@xtheshame Shut the fuck up boy, I bey youre a Husky fan right ? Go suck a thick, juicy, warm c0ck you fag. Have a nice day. PS do not reply me. Thanks!

[XTriplnX]

@fearfactz1 understand there is trolls, but that went overthetop

[Sniper9k]

rofl cracklings

[denkih272]

TLO wins

[martinblank2]

Thumbs up for the anti-spoilers

[fearfactz1]

@martinblank2 Thumbing down your stupid, idiotic, worthless comment you dumb fuk

[Jamick98Geass]

Idra is king in the mid to late game. Great job.

[Gamerjuana]

SUPER ANTI SPOILER COMBAT EX LOSES!!!!!

[ShamoonX]

Help me beat those spoiler guys!

[Hu6CityRidah]

Zerg is no where near op. each race is stronger in different times. Protoss is strong early game >10mins Zerg is strong mid game 10-20mins and Terran is usually solid at all times. Zerg isn't OP the problem is that when you play a zerg you have to constantely harrass. Select didn't do that. If you let a zerg do what they want they will steam roll you.

[gsfmediaproductions]

@Hu6CityRidah mostly correct, though at late game protoss is insane (a good death-ball composition is the most cost-efficient army in the game).

[WEGOTALLDAY]

lol love the top comments!

[fluffsfluff]

HD, could you start calling a group of mutas a "murder" of mutas? (ie. crows) If you could, that'd be awesome V^_^

[noobenstein]

@fluffsfluff FU ZERG lover!

[Majorohminus]

@fluffsfluff a group of mutas is called a rape of mutas.

[umadbrow]

HAHAHA! This is what retarded terran players get when they face a decent player.

They just show their inner retardedness and keep on making mistakes because their one

and only 1A stim marine push didnt work

[7890dan11]

@umadbrow did you just call select retarded? How would you fair in a 1v1 vs him

[MrJerm90]

@umadbrow wtf, youre an idiot

[MegaNob99]

What are you, fucking retarded, Blue? "I have experience with dozens of RTS', Zerg's OP." Yeah, how many of then ACTUALLY had Zerg in them? Stop trollin' faggot, especially if you suck at it as much as you do.

[jevlaretards]

you lost it

[CardPlay3r]

ANTI ANTI SPOILER: IDRA WINS

[Daekoni]

@CardPlay3r  haha XD

[perfuzz]

Dudes, don't thumb up anti spoilers that's just one row. 1080p dudes, 1080...

[Leonade01]

*looks at time*

OMG YES FINALLY!

[qwas12348gr5]

I love watching IdrA play.

[D4K1N60FGUNZ]

ANTI-SPOILERS FOR DAYS.

[andromidius]

Mmm. IdrA, playing Muta/Ling? No, never! /sarcasm

[GrugNorg]

I dont get why select didn't make any vikings. He had a reactor on his s port. LIke come on!

[ethereal2pt2]

i don't understand why select would keep trying to expand to that same 3 o clock base when the 6 o clock expansion was the obvious choice..

[HouseDweller]

Was that CC bait for those Mutas since he knew those Mutas were there at 15:00

[ReanimatedCheese]

18:26 Dat Physics

[wappidoo]

ANOTHER ANTI SPOILER

[smellhead11112222333]

@wappidoo ur not cute

[duscha55]

Cmon blizzard! for freaking sake, zerg + big maps = just to op.

One klick and you get 70 lings, what ca you do against that?

[CiPhEr505]

@duscha55 Gee I dunno, when the zerg takes 8 bases unmolested, most races get their shit pushed in.

Maybe if select didn't throw away his army over and over, and used it to take and hold a fourth, maybe if he didn't throw command centres away like candy, maybe if he tried more than ONE drop all game... maybe maybe maybe

[duscha55]

@CiPhEr505 It is allways the same, Zerg is such a passive race.

You rarely see Zerg players be aggresive in the early game, and if they tend to be, there is just an all in.

Why cant terran have a unit like the muta? Fast/cheap/ and have high damage. And dont say that Thor is Op to Mutas, Thors have like -1 in movement.

[Erebus2075]

@duscha55 you just said it: zerg cant be aggressive at all before late game, since IF they lose just 1 fight anywhere on the map they lost the game, while both protos and especially terran can easily lose battle after battle and still defend their base insanely effectively

[CiPhEr505]

@Erebus2075 That's Idra, and hence Zerg's macro style, man. That's what you have to deal with when you see this.

I want you to sit back! i want to drone like a maniac! And I'm going to do it with as little army as you let me get away with. I know if I slip up even once it's all over, so I'm going to spread creep and overs and scout you with ling.

Because I know, when we're both running off 8 bases, I'm going to shove so many units down your throat your grandmother chokes and dies

[CiPhEr505]

@Erebus2075 So you can't let a zerg get what he wants. Harass. Harass. Harass. Deny his creep and overlords, killing the first tumor sucks soooooo much. Do drop play all over his bases. And, like facing protoss, deny that third and fourth as long as you can.

Select sent some reapers that did fuck all nothing. And one late drop. Which was spotted, because he forgot to load rines into medivac and ran them all. Absolutely terrible play

[z0weew0wee]

@duscha55 'Mutas are cheap'. Congratulations, you just made it in the top 5 dumbest comments of the day!

[Yourself83803]

@B0st0nBru1ns

The terran lost...so OBVIOUSLY zerg is OP

[duscha55]

@Yourself83803 i totaly agree, Terran is ALLWAYS after in the whole game vs zerg on big maps.

[theredeyejedi13]

DANCE PARTY YEEEE BOIII

[istink3000]

ANTI SPOILER

[Hewkll]

@istink3000 Thanks a lot, I was gonna spoil this for my friend, why even bother watching it now

[Blue2Volf]

I will slap next guy say Zerg is not op ^_^  no other race can create 18 flyer unit in one production cycle.In old starcraft there were 3 larva for each hive or hatchery now WOAH QUEENS GIVE ALL YOURRRR LARVAS for massive noob ball.Imagine terran pumping 6 marines from one racks

[Adrian4567]

@Blue2Volf nooob ... easily nooob

[Th3D3vilInsid3M3]

@Blue2Volf

yes and? but in 1v1 each zerg unit loses to a same sized toss or terran unit.

Marine > Zergling

Zealot > Zergling

Marauder > Roach

Stalker > Roach

Viking > Mutalisk

Phoenix > Mutalisk

u get the point?

[Castative]

@Th3D3vilInsid3M3

thats a stupid comparison !

a zerg gets 2 zerglings for one marine mineral wise and 4 against one zealot !

and the same goes with the other but rather regarding the supplies !

If SC2 in imbalanced why do you watch pro replay casts ?

u get the point ?

[GoDNharvest]

@Blue2Volf for the same resources as a hatch and a queen you can have 2 rax with reactors making 4 marines at a time, your argument makes no sense

[joji64theninja]

@Blue2Volf imagine paying only 150 minerals for hatcheries...

[Blue2Volf]

@joji64theninja stupid way to comparison

racks+reactor 2 marines at max

Hatchery 3 larvas

[joji64theninja]

@Blue2Volf stupid way to comparison

3 larvae for drones, overlords, and combat units.

rax are only for infantry units.

[Blue2Volf]

@joji64theninja still not losing mining time while making overlords and racks only produce light infantry but hatchery can produce any unit type avaible man I was playing rts in 92 I grew up with dune2 dont try to win argument with me.I say zerg op for a reason.It comes from experiance of dozens of rts games.

[Proffesi]

@Blue2Volf and zerg lose a WHOLE WORKER every time they build a building. get lost retard

[Blue2Volf]

@Proffesi since first game yea we all know again its not a major lost since zerg can produce least 3 at once while terran had to make one by one.

[Ataro104]

terran drops 1 mule= makes up for any SCVs building, EASILY

[joji64theninja]

@Blue2Volf

there are so many things wrong with your argument, that I really don't know where to start off. but first off, the game has 3 DIFFERENT races with DISTINCT playing styles because nobody wants to fucking play an RTS where we all play mirror match ups with only one race. and Blizzard decided to let Zerg have a multi-purpose building because it is a unique feature that no other race has. If you can't deal with that, then Starcraft is not the game for you.

[Blue2Volf]

@joji64theninja well what we are doing irrevelant cause when hots comes out my op suggestion to zerg will disseappear Im well aware that races are distinct to one and another but when it comes to terran no matter what tactic you deploy you have to use same units all over there is no I go muta bane style in terran.Siege marine 90% mech marine 10% thats all win before zerg gets into tier 3 protos doing well and all against zerg but terran is a race to show how good you really are

[joji64theninja]

@Blue2Volf hm. after much debate over what you meant through that atrocious grammatically-flawed response, I have only one thing to say: you're just being stubborn about all of it. Zerg, by nature is an adaptive race. Terran has a very non-adaptive, mutli-purpose composition of units. it's no surprise that Terran can use the sam build over and over against many different kinds of builds. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but that is the characteristic of Terran, much like the way Zerg must adapt

[ThatArcticFoxGuy]

@Blue2Volf Don't let Zerg macro up in bases perhaps?

[bkim9289]

Op zerg

[Frimid]

"White on rice." Haha, you're asian.

[rufia75]

select got baited sooooo hard at 12:45

[B0st0nBru1ns]

Zergs not op...IdrA just played very well. Select barely even harassed idra. I think idra won because he went unchecked and was able to macro up and expo.

[PorifersAnims]

@B0st0nBru1ns thanks for spoiler '-'

[ALEXmedochamArsch]

Only Blue from Dick figures ist the true Blooser :D

[13loodySword]

GG! ㅈㅈ

[Ra3nMaN]

05:24 did I just hear HD swear?

[TheSoNation]

@Ra3nMaN he said buck ;)

[Ra3nMaN]

@TheSoNation Ah well... One day...

[Tommybotham]

If I was a terran commander in real life and I saw those Zerglings coming at me 17:20 I would have just rofl'd and ragequit my way off the planet.

Zerg macro is insane.

[EvilTomte]

Ghosts are fucking sick...

[hollyh00d12]

little ahead.... 47 supply :p

[Takkun5656]

anyone else looked at the timer and thought to yourself that idra won this?

[Tommybotham]

@Takkun5656 Everyone knows that 5 min games with Idra result in him losing. 20mins games are macro games which Idra is apparently a beast at and has a good chance of winning.

[Hankstbro]

I really hope your casting career works out for you; god forbid you should ever turn to singing as your main means of income.. :D

[omuploii]

zerg so obviously OP and noobs STILL whine and bitch about terran. Ha ha ha! That is so pathetic...

[Shyhalu]

@omuploii I CANT FACEROLL MY KEYBOARD N WIN WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[omuploii]

@Shyhalu play protoss

[EvilTomte]

@omuploii Terran fanboy

[omuploii]

@EvilTomte nah kid, just realistic. Keep crying now lil'virgin

[EvilTomte]

@omuploii Pathetic crybaby

[spaceorbison]

@omuploii Zerg isn't a noob friendly race thats why they bitch.

[CLuThHaNdLeS]

@omuploii I commented on your comment in the last game of the series, once again, stfu fat moron, the only race that is EASY to macro is prottoss, and they are not op because they are immobile and fragile, the game is more or less balanced and if there is a race that might be more cost effective than the others in obviously terran, cough cough marines what?

[MCZandogg]

@omuploii ohh you so funny :D

[Mrfatyman]

@omuploii Ur still whining about Zerg ur pathetic go cry about it

[omuploii]

@Mrfatyman Don't cry now fanboy.

[dcourtn1]

Select is good. IdrA is just beeeeeeeeast. They would call him ekel in Germany.

[MrBearMace]

@dcourtn1 esscuse me ? Select is a fucking bad boy, try to pull out the 2rax rush he did in the first match ups !

[theriverStarCraft]

Check 9:05... HD created a new unit for starcraft. 'Mutarines' lol

[staphinfection]

It's ridiculous how much Zerg have to do to win against Terran.... If you want to learn SC2, or are playing for the first time, definitely play as Terran. They are so much more forgiving. Zerg is fun, but you have to be on top of everything, larva inject, creep spread, larva management, unit composition, proper micro. One mistake as Zerg and you lose. Ten mistakes as Terran and hey, you still may have a chance.

[Shukuchi01]

@staphinfection lolol see julyzerg vs MMA.. see how much a terran had to do to win a zerg that goes mutaling/infestorling.. Protoss here btw..

[LicoriceRawr]

@staphinfection The forgivingness depends on the skill level you are at.

At top level, believe it or not protoss is considered the hardest race to play, while in the lowest it's easiest.

[deedeekay89]

@staphinfection Nah...ur wrong. I agree with everything with what you said about zerg management, but Terran isnt so forgiving, specially against Zerg. The Terran has to match the zerg aggression/macro to stay on par. In addition, solid positioning of siege tanks is crucial or ull get overrun by ling/bling in an instant. Also, marine splitting, protecting against muta harass while properly counter-attacking n preventing the zerg from expanding (imo the most difficult part).

[deedeekay89]

plus, what the zerg possesses in mid/late game is that they can send waves after waves while Terran is all about efficiency...so it kinda flips late game --> Early game Terrans are more forgiving, but Late game Zergs are more forgiving.

[Shukuchi01]

I really don't understand. How can so many people complain about Bomber going 1 - 1 - 1 all the time when idra always go Mutaling against Terran? I don't see the logic here.

[LicoriceRawr]

@Shukuchi01 Muta ling is easy to counter if you know how too, and 1-1-1 is considered a cheese.

[Shukuchi01]

@LicoriceRawr Ok, let's see how you counter it. A good zerg will deviate from Muta ling almost instantly into a couple of infestors and BLs. The mutas will buy them so much time for them to tech, expand, etc. I find it funny that so many people think mutaling is easy to counter when even Boxer in MLG orlando lost 4 rounds to idra because idra just mutaling him.. Thank god I switched to protoss

[slbaaron]

@Shukuchi01 Didn't see previous comments you are referring / replying to. But Toss die against mass muta. Mid-masters toss here. Just saying. Switching to protoss cuz of muta sounds a lil bit wrong to me. Lolz.

[Shukuchi01]

@slbaaron It's easier to deal with it as protoss.. Watch the MC interview on visual radio and you'll see what i mean..

[slbaaron]

@Shukuchi01 It depends on where you are at. A good PvZ build in diamond may be the worst in silver. Mass muta kills most masters - GM protoss right now. You can watch the last destiny vs Incontrol game. It's a pretty good example cuz: destiny and incontrol both aren't THAT good and also being at an equal level. And Incontrol had absolutely no answer for it. Mass mutas don't have solid answers right now, the thing is zerg doesn't have an easy time getting there, but once there, prtty much gg.

[Blopfury]

@slbaaron No answer? Just get 2 archons and you won't hear mutas again

[LicoriceRawr]

@Shukuchi01 You just need to take opportunity to counter attack.

Force a base trade or something similar.

Forcing back the mutas to his base to help to kill your army helps him a tad, but they are weak in such a way.

By so you both put pressure and if done well killing his mutas.

[mikillatja]

soon apple is gonna make a special starcraft cpu called the I dra

[shootingmen]

terran's OP



[staphinfection]

Lzgamer got nerfed when they nerfed 5 rax reaper shenanigans. Same with Morrow.... I think he even switched to Zerg, but after infestor nerfs, who knows what happened to him.

All those players abusing cheesy broken units, and look at them now, they've fallen off the face of the SC2 plateau. 5 rax reaper was so fucking broken.

[staphinfection]

...or you could just look at the length of the game in time and immediately know that it's a macro game.

[staphinfection]

"Round number five.......no four."

I thought Asians were good at math. (insert dumb stereotype joke here)

[boofneenee]

what can you do versus a macro zerg on a map this large? its the mutas... they need a serious nerf... either slow them down or eliminate their splash damage

[LicoriceRawr]

@boofneenee You know you could always force them into a base trade.

if you got mutas in your base, as fast as you get them out, counter attack, they need to get all the way at their base to help and by so they have to attack head on, and head on mutas are really bad.

Simply forcing this you can force a basetrade, and zerg ALWAYS loses these.

[MrBearMace]

@boofneenee mutas are just insane to deal with, but it is possible to defeat zerg on this map, if you dont let it expand too much - but then again Idra is not just some ordinary zerg player :P

[ImAPaladin]

Did I hear "cumposition" at 18:00, or am I just drunk...

[Mixxmasta]

thx idra.. i was cravin to see u win..

[laurynasl]

this is true Idra

[ERA145]

you think with the technology terrans have the would make a firebat/viking thing to cook up some mutas for thanksgiving

[killdynamite]

random is most op race

[fasterfaster88]

hd makes adrenal glands upgrade seem op. sure its good but 20% is not really all that much at the end of the day