lolol skism owned him by making a shitty song and pretty much proving Henry's point entirely. Thanks for making bland and uninspiring and generally unfeeling music unless I'm rolling, skism.
i gotta say though...how many of you like henry rollins' music??? i think i liked one song of his his his entire career. i agree though with some of his views. i stopped djing in 98 because i was tired of playing other peoples shit so i learned production, i learned how to play drums,i learned how to play guitar, i learned mastering,i learned sound design,i learned recording tricks and how to build a home studio...i make electronic music but i don't use samples i make my own shit..
It's cute reading all the comments from the ladies who are offended by Henry Rollins comments about shitty raves and plate spinners who think they have talent. Grow a fucking pair.
this is bull shit i love rave's and i dont do the drugs the music is your choice you dont need the drugs to enjoy it......................this dude has a good point about the so called rock but come on does he even go to raves does he even have to talk shit about them.........no he doesnt.........cause for the ravers out there and the melborn shufflers......we wont back down you fucking clown's hardstyle for ever!!!!1
Fuck Skism. All you punk ass plure mother fuckers who cant even go to raves yet. Giving light shows because its the cool thing to do. You have no passion for the edm music and culture. Trance died in 08 fuckers.
@nemesiskite55 Being in a punk band doesn't make a clueless, narrow minded, uninformed view any more valid. If anything, the anti-conformist nature of punk is no different than dance music and I'm not talking the corporate stuff when they just want more radio friendly auto-tuned cheese to sell to morons.
@ccrockit. The fact he thinks those genres are even the same thing proves hasn't got a clue what 'modern' electronic music even is and by modern, I mean 30+ years of it evolving into very clear genres, not whatever 3.5 minute pop orientated garbage some X-Factor kareoke artist is crapping out.
I have mad respect for this man but he was a little harsh on dance music. i doubt Armin Van Buuren got anywhere if he didn't have talent. fuck you rollins. but i love you too
@Tahniho nah man he's talking bout those idiot dj's who play other peoples music and feel talented.. those hiphop/teenage ones.. where as armin makes his own music.. producer /dj
@grapejuicekid Good going grape juice kid. You've proven that you don't know shit about this guy, now go drink your grape juice with your moronic shitmusic friends.
Lol what makes me laugh is how half the people that hate on djs have never even tried it. It's a pretty challenging skill. It takes a really good ear. You can have 10 years or even 25 and not be done yet with your journey, There will always be different mixes, new ways to dj, different scratches.
I accidentally referred to you, not the comment below mine referring to you.
I only commented (within the apparent text limit) because Rollins is spouting the same uninformed crap that every "real music" bore has repeated like a stuck record since forever.
I'm not a big fan of dubstep and honestly, dubstep isn't the best example of what laptop musicians can do. Look up Flying Lotus. He produces array of sounds that are avant garde, jazzy, hip-hop, dance and world music. His stuff is great enough that Miguel Atwood-Ferguson Ensemble orchestrated his pieces with live instruments. And this is coming from a person who plays a lot of guitar and favorite band is Jimi Hendrix. Every genre of music has its great. Like some jazz is just plain boring.
The way "Real Music" bores go on seems like fear of what they don't understand. After 30+ years, sequencers and digital recording is still new and scary so instead learning how it helps the creative process, they spout utter crap that was obviously started by audio engineers who've spent their career recording the same combination of instruments, think Rap and Dance Music is the same thing and there's being no progress since Run DMC sampled Aerosmith!
@barkmonster Looks like you had an intellectual boner for a while there then lost it, regained your strength and pointed it in my direction.I appreciate that.But the details of your incomplete comments leading up too hounding me has left me with a question...?So whats your point?Honestly I really don't feel like processing what I've read of yours because I have better things too do, so please sum it all up in a couple sentences or less dude.
...of an orchestra is Uninformed, Unintellgent and no amount of patronising tone or meaningless invitations to play whatever instrument they have a boner for if I they don't agree with them can change that fact.
The fact that classical music theory, as opposed to 12 bar blues chords, is the basis of dance music to start with means there's tons of examples proving that fact. BT for example, is a classically trained composer who's made some of the most intelligent dance music out there!
Implying the equipment MAKES the music, that there's any creative difference between playing a synth and then sequencing the midi it with a simplified version of musical notation, (the piano roll editor in Protools for example) is any less creative or "Real" than a guitarist playing a few chords within the limitations of their own dexterity and writing it down in a simplified version of musical notation (guitar tab) or a composer writing musical notation and handing it to a conductor in command
I don't think its the technology he has a problem with, more like how its misused, think about it, this technology could do amazing things and its used for these narrow minded, idiotic songs instead of making art, they make "Jungle-Trance-Hip-Hop fucking shit music." (<--- In the words of Henry.)
I agree that sampling someone else's music, then letting some Retard Attempting Poetry blather about how much money he's got, what whores the shallow sluts that like fucking people who spend money on them but don't piss off afterwards are and how much chronic they've smoked is absolutely NOT musicianship, it's taking someone else's performance and shitting all over it. I hate DJ Fuckhead!!
Implying the equipment MAKES the music, that there's any creative difference between playing a synth and
i dont think he gets that its basically the same concept just in this new generation of electronic music, basically guitars (even though some bands utilize them) have been replaced with synths and so on; Bass is of course still used, whether bass guitar or electronic bass. ya know what i mean? theres still a "fuck shit and fuck shit up" attitude its just.. different. and though its being presented differently doesnt mean kids dont wanna thrash the fuck out, they just want to do that to electric
@THEMichaelCairo Yeah, but that's just a wrong impression of rave music. Dubstep for example, isn't copy past work at all, but one of the most original genres in the dance scene ever. It takes a lot of skill to make such music, trust me, I'm a producer myself, and it's not easy.
@jez3869 "persistane" isn't a word and i'm a producer. i produce punk music. being a producer and creating dubstep/rave music are two VASTLY different things.
I hate punks like this who see their music as so morally and skillfully superior to other peoples. Henry mocks the rave producers about having no talent, search up Six Pack by Black Flag.
Not gonna lie, I could learn to play this in 2 minutes.
Very funny, but you know Henry...lots of people say the same shit about punk records. Ask my angry alcoholic grandfather about punk. Sounds like this, "A screaming self-important buffoon, backed up by three dudes who don't know how to play a guitar, & a drummer who is playing the wrong song." I don't agree with him at all, but really, people like different shit. I am not at all interested in making everyone happy, all the time. They can suck it. :]
@shlibookensteppah Well said. I respect Henry Rollins. Fucking clicked on a video of him running his mouth, which he gets paid damn good money to do -spout off his opinions on whatEVER- and he makes decent sometimes brilliant points, articulating things in humorous, creative ways. But I could care less what an old punk thinks about electronic music just the same as an old Baby Boomer.
Rollins is spot on. Modern rock these days is nothing more than repetitive, basic garbage with dumbed-down lyrics packaged specifically for fratboy idiots, "rebellious" pre-teens and general drunken morons. Nickelback is a prime example. Rave music can die a slow horrible death as well.
He's funny, but he doesn't really know what he's talking about. Apparantly he sees DJ's who are scratching (which rave DJ's never do anyway, hiphop dj's do) as people who make the rave music. A the guy who makes the rave music, that's the genious behind it. Did you ever tried programming the perfect dubstep bass? That requires skill, alot of skill. Rave music has a lot of small components which are alot of work, and all together it's one ingenious music composition. Think about it as one person
@spotCJ People can learn how to make Excision level dubstep within a year if they actually want to learn. That kind of music isn't nearly as difficult as actually playing an instrument.
@UnderwhelmingPlywood True for sure, but copying excisions style won't make you famous, and coming up with a complete new and special sound does. It's not the skill that you need, but the creativity. Of course, playing a guitar is much harder, but instead of using an already existing instrument, dance music producers come up with instruments nobody ever heard before, by constructing their own synthesizers. And that, my friend, takes much more creativity AND skill than playing the guitar.
@spotCJ I never said copying Excision. I said Excision level meaning at the level of skill and creativity that Excision has. No, it does not take more skill to do this than play guitar. If you actually knew anything about instruments and music, you wouldn't have said that. This is computer generated and much easier to pick up. Guitar takes a lot of theory and understanding. In dubstep you can just slap shit together until it's good. Dubstep is creative, but don't ever say it takes more skill.
@UnderwhelmingPlywood This is just BULLSHIT. I've been playing instruments for 30 years and I've been producing electronically for 12. BOTH are as hard as each other to do it well that. Both are making music with instruments. Just because it's "computer generated" as you say doesn't mean a virtual synth is any easier to play than a Grand Piano. Any electronic music production is hard because you need to know how to play a music for it to sound good AND have audio engineering skills.
@UnderwhelmingPlywood I've learned a Black Flag in 5 minutes. It's not hard with 4 or 5 chords to play...
Since you're talking about it, which instrument does Henry Rollins play exactly?
A lot of people making "that kind of music" play lots of instruments. You'll find they like lots of different kinds of music too. Even hard-core Punk. You'll probably find that a lot of them have respect for the people making it too, even if they don't understand it yet.
@wildlite You learned a simple song, you fucking idiot. Jesus Christ, you are stupid. "I learned a really fucking simple song, so that means playing guitar takes little skill." My God, you are dense.
@UnderwhelmingPlywood I said I learned HIS simple song in 5 minutes. It's taken me 25 years to learn a guitar to the extent I know it today. I also play the piano, trombone and double bass.I've been producing 12 years now and I'm a long way further still from mastering that. How long has it taken you to master electronic recording and producing?
@wildlite I don't even know why you entered the argument. What was the point in stating that you learned a song? Why the fuck do you think I care? Also, I know people that have created this music. It did not take that long for them to figure it out. You don't need to be a masterful musician to make this shit. On another point, what gives me reason to believe you've made all of these musical accomplishments. You're probably just pulling stuff out of your ass. From now on, stay out of my arguments
@UnderwhelmingPlywood I entered the argument cause you were dribbling shit in public. You didn't answer - how long have you been producing for? Do you even listen to electronic music? Anyone can get OK at it in a year. Hell, If you can't get something decent in 3 months then maybe move on. You can ask any producer/musician who has been playing LONG term, even with playing for a decade you're still going to learn a whole lot of stuff for decades to come.
@wildlite If you are able to become decent at making dubstep within 3 months, that proves how easy it is. Although, that depends on what you define as decent.
@UnderwhelmingPlywood The guy is right you moron. You are one of those guys who just thinks he knows what he's talking about. Unlike me and Wildlite, you don't respect both types of music. EDM is not computer generated, it's made by hard work, and very precise skills and knowledge. And not just computer knowledge, but musical knowledge too. I've been playing piano for 6 years, and just started producing dubstep a year ago, and trust me, it's harder then playing the piano.
@spotCJ Not as much musical knowledge as most instruments. If you believe that make electronic music is harder than learning the theory behind a real instrument, you really are stupid.
@UnderwhelmingPlywood I don't say it's harder, but it isn't easy either. You guys all think EDM is computer generated and easy as fuck. Strange, that producers get angry about that? Have some respect for what people do, and don't talk about it as if it is easy if you haven't experienced yourself. How would you feel if i would say that the instrument you play is easy as fuck and stupid? that's right, you would feel insulted. Show respect, and you will receive respect.
@spotCJ Dubstep is easier to write than guitar just like piano is easier to write than guitar. Some instruments are more complex than others. They all take skill, but some are easier to pick up than others. I like chilling to some dubstep just as much as the next guy, but I just think that instruments take more talent.
@evilspaceinvader What? Can you play like 5 chords? Shut the fuck up. Unless your at an extremely high level of skill with a guitar you have nowhere to talk. Dubstep does not take more skill than playing an actual instrument.
@evilspaceinvader we'll see here in 3 more years when people are still playing guitars, and sceney weenie douche bags can't remember what the auto tune farts and fissing sounds of dubstep sounded like
@UnderwhelmingPlywood Turntables are NOT musical instruments...DJ's are not musicians...Keep that in mind and you will live a long and delusional free life.And please do not compare Guitars and piano's to dubstep in the future.No pathetic dj of today will ever be remembered a couple hundred years from now like how the world still enjoys the compositions of the centuries past musical composers of yesterday.
@pamew You sir, show me how you make some hard hitting dubstep, and I'll take back my argument. Oh what, you don't know how to? of course not idiot. I never even said piano was easy, I said producing music is harder. There's a whole lot of difference between playing a song someone already composed, and compose one yourself.
@spotCJ "You sir, show me how you make some hard hitting dubstep, and I'll take back my argument. Oh what, you don't know how to? of course not idiot. "
Do you know how to play Rachmaninov's concerto NO. 2? No? Well, I guess that proves piano is harder! HERPDERP!
" I said producing music is harder."
No, both CAN be harder AND EASIER than each other. It's harder to write an opera than to play 3 blind mice, and it's harder to learn flight of the bumble bee than write basic dance.
@Tonyr67 Muhahaha, sorry, but i'm not even going to take effort to think about your terrible logic. And learn some proper english man, its terrible...
Je kunt een Gibson Les Paul niet vergelijken met een computer waar geluiden uit komen en dat dan muziek noemen.
Dat je leuk bezig bent en er heel behendig in bent, heeft niets te maken met muzikale capaciteiten. Net zo min als behendig zijn in een voetbalspel, om vervolgens te roepen, dat je muzikant bent, omdat je je spits in een vierkwartsmaat, 21x hetzelfde dansje voor het doel te laten doen!?
Overigens is je Engels beter dan je Nederlends. Ik tel in je 2 zinnetjes al zo'n 4 fouten!
@Tonyr67 Hahaha, grappig dat jij mij komt vertellen dat mijn 'Nederlends' slecht is, ik zou graag horen waar mijn fouten zitten ;). Jij denkt blijkbaar te weten hoe je muziek maakt met een computer, oftewel, electronic music production, maar voor een simple minded persoon als jij zal ik het maar even op 'computermuziek' houden.
Een computer daar komt niet zomaar geluid uit, dat kost vele uren moeite en creativiteit, om dan uiteindelijk een mooie melodie te creeren.
@Tonyr67 Ook komt er bij het maken van een nummer op de computer meer muzikale kennis kijken dan jij je waarschijnlijk kan voorstellen. Het is hetzelfde werk als wat mozart deed, componeren, alleen dan eenvoudiger. Maar wie zegt dat simpel niet mooi kan zijn? De bekendste melodien zijn de eenvoudigsten. Sterker nog, het programmeren van de drumpatronen die in de DnB van tegenwoordig zitten, vereist een muzikaal inzicht wat maar weinigen gegund is. Nou jij weer.
Volgens mij begin je toch echt elke nieuwe zin met een hoofdletter.
Wat ook weer iets anders is, dan door snel typen per ongeluk een verkeerde letter in te typen. Wel grappig, dat je nu iets beter je best doet!
Terecht dat je lacht.
Ik heb geen verstand van muziek. Van muzikale ritmes, heb ik al helemaal geen kaas gegeten. Laat staan drumpatronen. Stokpaardjes, paradiddles, rofl of 5, weet niet wat je bedoelt. Heb ook nog nooit met pro logic gewerkt.
@Tonyr67 Leuk hoe je met ironie laat weten dat jij wel degelijk de muzikale expert bent,
hou ik wel van. Ik heb nooit gezegd dat jij niks weet van muziek, maar je weet duidelijk te weinig van elektronische muziek. Ik ga niet nog meer voorbeelden gebruiken om je te overtuigen, maar ik raad je aan om eens een paar leuke synthesizer plugins voor Logic te kopen/downloaden, en te kijken wat je er mee kan. Dan zul je zien dat zo'n synth nog behoorlijk leuk is, en moeilijker dan je dacht ;)
@Tonyr67 Ach, ik ben ook maar een brutaal jongetje van 15.
Maar ik ben apetrots op mijn vrienden die met veel moeite en keihard werken de wereld van de elektronische muziek in zijn weten te komen. Heb er dan toch altijd wat moeite mee als mensen respectloos tegenover die muziek staan. Maar goed, iedereen zijn eigen stijl, daarvoor zijn we tenslotte mensen :)
@Glyph1992 Yeah you're right. One is genius and the other is shitty wanna-be. Sadly ironic given the topic of his content. The voices he uses, the delivery - he's listened to Bill Hicks just one hundred times too many.
Ugh... this is painful to watch. Once he got his first laugh it couldn't go anywhere- He's just fishing for laughter and applause, we get it, you don't like rave music. Didn't need to be 4 minutes long. CRINGE.
@pamew Haha, FL is the worlds most famous music production suite. It's being used by artists like Deadmau5, but also by bands, like the prodigy. Soulja Boy is the most sucky rapper in the world, but that doesn't say anything about FL. And about your opinion, you'll probably say that because you can't find out how it works ;)
@pamew So your Logic is correct? "Soulja Boy uses FL" and just because Soulja Boy sucks, so does FL? You're one of those narrow-minded people, who can't live with anything else they don't like, so they start hating. Deadmau5 maybe horrific for you, for lots of other he's a musical inspiration. I've never used FL myself, I'm a Reason user, but FL is a great piece of software, and you know it. You don't have to admit that, but just respect it, and don't talk shit about it.
@pamew And about that prodigy thing, I don't really know the prodigy, I just thought it was that band. Could be another one too, just trying to tell you that Soulja Boy isn't the only one who uses it. And yes, Paris is famous and sucks, but those to can't be compared. Software won't be famous if it isn't good. FL is a great suit to help starting producers on their way, and has alot of good features, which I can't say about less known software like Acid.
@spotCJ "And about that prodigy thing, I don't really know the prodigy"
Clearly you don't. Which makes it odd that accuse me of not knowing what I'm talking about, then proceed to talk out of your ass about the thing you're defending. Great job genius!
"Software won't be famous if it isn't good."
Windows millennium was GOOD now?
"FL is a great suit to help starting producers on their way"
ie itt's a fucking KIDS TOY. I find it hilarious that you think the prodigy actually use it.
@pamew So FL sucks, thats your opinion. May I know why exactly? You're just saying it's shit and you have never used anything worse, but you don't give any other software which you prefer. And clearly, you don't know that much. FL is just carrier software. The music you'll get out of it depends on the plugins you use, and how you use them. I think you just hate because you never managed to get proper sound out of it...
@spotCJ "So FL sucks, thats your opinion. May I know why exactly? "
I already explained. It's aimed at kids. I've used free open source VST compatible software that blows it away. Sure, it's good, if you're a dumb kid who is easily confused. If you're an adult who knows how to use a computer on the other hand, not so much.
@pamew So you're mister smartass, which understands everything in a second, and starts off with the most advanced piece of software you can find? That's nice to know, but that isn't how it works for thousands of other people. Actually, almost every producer, also a lot of the big ones, started with some kind of software like FL, and moved on to better equipment later. Just because it's aimed at starting people doesn't make it bad, that's the worst argument I've ever heard...
@spotCJ It makes it bad for adults, and I assumed you were one. Sorry, didn't know I was speaking to a kid. Although that explains the stupidity of your posts.
When people discuss motorbikes, you don't hear people bringing up pedal operated tricycles because "they're good for kids."
I've decided to use similes that a kid could understand, seeing as you seem trapped at age 14 with your love of motherfuckin' Fruity Loops.
@pamew About the prodigy, I must have remembered the wrong band, but I once read somewhere about a famous band using FL. Don't really care which one it was actually, as you won't believe me anyway.. And yes, windows was good. Don't know what you use, but I'm a mac user, and I like both of the systems, but can't say one of them is better. And kids toy? I'll try to get my 11 years old sister to play with it, but I doubt she has any interest.
@pamew Never fuckin used the millennium edition, and I don't know what you're talking about. But it seems clear to me, I'm a huge fan of windows XP, and I hate Vista and 7, and since they came out, the amount of people starting to buy OSX were growing explosively. Windows was a great system, but isn't anymore. XP is good, the rest sucks. But I guess that you'll never even think about admitting that FL isn't complete rubbish anyway. If that's the case, say it now, so I can stop wasting my time.
@spotCJ Chrit, this is like dealing with a 3 year old.
Right:
YOU said that FL couldn't be bad BECAUSE IT IS SO POPULAR. I pointed out that something being popular does not make it good, citing windows millennium as an example. Get it now, idiot?
FL is for children/teens. It was specifically aimed at people too dumb to use better software. Sorry that that upsets you, but it's true. Also, if you own a mac and use FL, that's just sad.
@pamew I don't use FL, never did either. I just don't like your respectless attitude. FL can teach kids to make music, and help them making their dreams reality. Don't really see why that should make the software bad.
@spotCJ "FL can teach kids to make music, and help them making their dreams reality. Don't really see why that should make the software bad. "
Are you mentally retarded? Seriously, please answer me that. I have REPEATEDLY said now that I DON'T LIKE FL because AS AN ADULT it is FAR TOO SIMPLE for ME.
Get it now?
Christ, you're so busy trying to make yourself look smart that you haven't even fucking read what you're disagreeing with. Twat.
@pamew And I don't 'love' FL, I respect it, which you should too. I think Cubase is one of the worst producer suits out there, but that's just my opinion, and I don't hate on people who think different, but respect their choice. I might be a kid, but I think my attitude is more the one of an adult than yours.
I'm not in the habit of "respecting" inanimate objects., You fucking weirdo.
"I might be a kid, but I think my attitude is more the one of an adult than yours."
Hah! Well sorry champ, but you're a pretentious, egotistical little fuck. I dislike FL for the same reason I dislike Dora the explorer, Justin Bieber, and teletubbies. Because I'm an adult with motor and mental skill above that of a 5 year old. I thought you'd stopped replying btw?
@pamew I stop by this last one. The only one egoistical here is you. You just keep quoting my stuff, but it turns out to absolutely nothing. I can say FL is good and productive software, because one of my friends got a record deal with it. Which you, probably, can't say. That makes, for me, my opinion the right one. Don't really care if you believe me or not, that's it for me, discussion over. If you want to talk anymore, send me a PM, and we'll make an appointment. Good luck with life, rageguy.
I'm not in the habit of "respecting" inanimate objects., You fucking weirdo.
"I might be a kid, but I think my attitude is more the one of an adult than yours."
Hah! Well sorry champ, but you're a pretentious, egotistical little fuck. I dislike FL for the same reason I dislike Dora the explorer, Justin Bieber, and teletubbies. Because I'm an adult with motor and mental skill above that of a 5 year old. I thought you'd stopped replying btw?
he just doesnt get it does he...what an angy old man.
nalstadt 2 hours ago
dubstep can suck my cock
Lumbylife 4 hours ago
I'm DJ FUCKHEAD!!!
MistaNimbus 8 hours ago
THANK YOU! I am SO glad that I am not alone on this topic! Ha
fisheye300 9 hours ago
"But it has all come together in a beautiful way" LOL
Playpet1977 12 hours ago
lolol skism owned him by making a shitty song and pretty much proving Henry's point entirely. Thanks for making bland and uninspiring and generally unfeeling music unless I'm rolling, skism.
Haushinka1000Hours 15 hours ago
i gotta say though...how many of you like henry rollins' music??? i think i liked one song of his his his entire career. i agree though with some of his views. i stopped djing in 98 because i was tired of playing other peoples shit so i learned production, i learned how to play drums,i learned how to play guitar, i learned mastering,i learned sound design,i learned recording tricks and how to build a home studio...i make electronic music but i don't use samples i make my own shit..
MSNGR415 21 hours ago
@MSNGR415 how did 3 "HIS" get in there. i swear i don't stutter when i type normally lol
MSNGR415 21 hours ago
Fuuuuuuuuuuuck you
MrSmoothhit 21 hours ago
Sounds like he has anger issues, the man's too narrow minded
And yes I get it, he's a 'comedian' and he's trying to be funny, but what he's saying simply isn't funny and/or sensible.
dodexodus 22 hours ago
SKiSM is a faggot. no talent. dubstep is not music.
AgosLoco 1 day ago
@AgosLoco little boy you need to open your mind
dodexodus 22 hours ago
@dodexodus talking about opening his mind when you're watching someone slating a genre of music?
wra7h 21 hours ago
It's cute reading all the comments from the ladies who are offended by Henry Rollins comments about shitty raves and plate spinners who think they have talent. Grow a fucking pair.
momentofsciencetx 2 days ago 2
this is bull shit i love rave's and i dont do the drugs the music is your choice you dont need the drugs to enjoy it......................this dude has a good point about the so called rock but come on does he even go to raves does he even have to talk shit about them.........no he doesnt.........cause for the ravers out there and the melborn shufflers......we wont back down you fucking clown's hardstyle for ever!!!!1
wolfmanbio5752 2 days ago
@wolfmanbio5752 shut the fuck up, you yourself haven't been to a rave before. just by reading your post i can tell you're like fucking under 15?
daraten2 23 hours ago
Fuck Skism. All you punk ass plure mother fuckers who cant even go to raves yet. Giving light shows because its the cool thing to do. You have no passion for the edm music and culture. Trance died in 08 fuckers.
MegaDunzo 2 days ago
@MegaDunzo Yeah it's so dead, Dubstep is actually becoming its own genre, retard.
EviiLNoiZE 15 hours ago
"We couldn't do songs with a sense of humor anymore; he got into the serious way-out poet thing." ~ Greg Ginn
HailSagan4Realz 3 days ago
Wait wait wait.... what about emmerson lake & palmer? "whut came first? the drugs or the music?"
OriginPower 3 days ago
LOL, I heard this on Angerfist's Shitty Rave Track track.
realkewlmann 4 days ago
@nemesiskite55 Being in a punk band doesn't make a clueless, narrow minded, uninformed view any more valid. If anything, the anti-conformist nature of punk is no different than dance music and I'm not talking the corporate stuff when they just want more radio friendly auto-tuned cheese to sell to morons.
barkmonster 4 days ago
This guy is spot on on everything!!!!
Megawatts19 4 days ago
this guy blows hes not even funny.... so he can cuss to a bunch of hill people? csb
andehrew18 4 days ago
@andehrew18 You must be in one said rock bands. It's okay, not everyone can deal with criticism and we're all here to support you.
kibijit 4 days ago
@ccrockit. The fact he thinks those genres are even the same thing proves hasn't got a clue what 'modern' electronic music even is and by modern, I mean 30+ years of it evolving into very clear genres, not whatever 3.5 minute pop orientated garbage some X-Factor kareoke artist is crapping out.
barkmonster 5 days ago
@barkmonster Keep in mind, he was in a hardcore punk band
nemesiskite55 4 days ago
Anyone who disagrees i will personally come find you and kick you in the face!
MrHorsepower91 5 days ago
Amen Henry Rollins!
AuroraPoison 5 days ago
I have mad respect for this man but he was a little harsh on dance music. i doubt Armin Van Buuren got anywhere if he didn't have talent. fuck you rollins. but i love you too
Tahniho 5 days ago
@Tahniho nah man he's talking bout those idiot dj's who play other peoples music and feel talented.. those hiphop/teenage ones.. where as armin makes his own music.. producer /dj
KennyParkz 5 days ago 10
He's pretty spot on. Modern music doesn't involve talent at all.
DonTrustZepHaters 5 days ago
I want to hear someone do a dubstep mix of this.
SpankyRavenscroft 6 days ago
@SpankyRavenscroft skism - rave review
XperiMENTAL123 5 days ago
@XperiMENTAL123 Thanks, just heard it, it's a fucking beast too.
SpankyRavenscroft 5 days ago
SKiSM OWNED THIS FOOL
Lejicals 6 days ago 9
@Lejicals See him live tonight ;)
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@Lejicals See him live tonight ;)
BenKcorp 2 days ago
meat head rambling is all i see here
grapejuicekid 6 days ago
@grapejuicekid Good going grape juice kid. You've proven that you don't know shit about this guy, now go drink your grape juice with your moronic shitmusic friends.
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grapejuicekid 6 days ago
this guys an idiot
reaverx00 6 days ago
@reaverx00 This "guy" knows more about anything and everything than you do. He is a musician.
Blodslav 5 days ago
if you want some music to fuck on the floor and break shit to, check out some Whitechapel lol. not for the faint of heart
rscricca 6 days ago
I want to fuck on the floor and break shit while the stooges play. Hell yea. And modern music sucks ass
punxer321 1 week ago
Lol what makes me laugh is how half the people that hate on djs have never even tried it. It's a pretty challenging skill. It takes a really good ear. You can have 10 years or even 25 and not be done yet with your journey, There will always be different mixes, new ways to dj, different scratches.
OriginalVu 1 week ago
@killtroy88
I accidentally referred to you, not the comment below mine referring to you.
I only commented (within the apparent text limit) because Rollins is spouting the same uninformed crap that every "real music" bore has repeated like a stuck record since forever.
barkmonster 1 week ago
@barkmonster Awesome dude! I apologize if I came across as rude, I was drunk.have a good one
killtroy811 1 week ago
SKisM <3
shadowmoses19 1 week ago
I'm not a big fan of dubstep and honestly, dubstep isn't the best example of what laptop musicians can do. Look up Flying Lotus. He produces array of sounds that are avant garde, jazzy, hip-hop, dance and world music. His stuff is great enough that Miguel Atwood-Ferguson Ensemble orchestrated his pieces with live instruments. And this is coming from a person who plays a lot of guitar and favorite band is Jimi Hendrix. Every genre of music has its great. Like some jazz is just plain boring.
FloydIV 1 week ago
@killtroy811 Sorry, late to the party :-)
The way "Real Music" bores go on seems like fear of what they don't understand. After 30+ years, sequencers and digital recording is still new and scary so instead learning how it helps the creative process, they spout utter crap that was obviously started by audio engineers who've spent their career recording the same combination of instruments, think Rap and Dance Music is the same thing and there's being no progress since Run DMC sampled Aerosmith!
barkmonster 1 week ago
@barkmonster Looks like you had an intellectual boner for a while there then lost it, regained your strength and pointed it in my direction.I appreciate that.But the details of your incomplete comments leading up too hounding me has left me with a question...?So whats your point?Honestly I really don't feel like processing what I've read of yours because I have better things too do, so please sum it all up in a couple sentences or less dude.
killtroy811 1 week ago
...of an orchestra is Uninformed, Unintellgent and no amount of patronising tone or meaningless invitations to play whatever instrument they have a boner for if I they don't agree with them can change that fact.
The fact that classical music theory, as opposed to 12 bar blues chords, is the basis of dance music to start with means there's tons of examples proving that fact. BT for example, is a classically trained composer who's made some of the most intelligent dance music out there!
barkmonster 1 week ago
Implying the equipment MAKES the music, that there's any creative difference between playing a synth and then sequencing the midi it with a simplified version of musical notation, (the piano roll editor in Protools for example) is any less creative or "Real" than a guitarist playing a few chords within the limitations of their own dexterity and writing it down in a simplified version of musical notation (guitar tab) or a composer writing musical notation and handing it to a conductor in command
barkmonster 1 week ago
@barkmonster
I don't think its the technology he has a problem with, more like how its misused, think about it, this technology could do amazing things and its used for these narrow minded, idiotic songs instead of making art, they make "Jungle-Trance-Hip-Hop fucking shit music." (<--- In the words of Henry.)
CCRockit 6 days ago
I agree that sampling someone else's music, then letting some Retard Attempting Poetry blather about how much money he's got, what whores the shallow sluts that like fucking people who spend money on them but don't piss off afterwards are and how much chronic they've smoked is absolutely NOT musicianship, it's taking someone else's performance and shitting all over it. I hate DJ Fuckhead!!
Implying the equipment MAKES the music, that there's any creative difference between playing a synth and
barkmonster 1 week ago
this was funny
Layherdown13 1 week ago
MAD STAN: BLOW IT ALL UP!
Theraclese 1 week ago
One of these days he's going to get shot. Most likely by me.
JayBrys 1 week ago
@JayBrys FUCK YOU!
killtroy811 1 week ago
@killtroy811 Dude why you mad?
JayBrys 1 week ago
@JayBrys This comment is why...Rollins best friend was murdered in front of him!
killtroy811 1 week ago
@killtroy811 He deserved it.
JayBrys 1 week ago
Wasn't funny at all.. lol
Dubst3pbrah 1 week ago
@Dubst3pbrah he isn't a stand up comedian. He does spoken word
ChingParr 1 week ago
1:56= DROP
shaboooya 1 week ago
anyone notice Joe Bonamassa in the audience???
conkerandco 1 week ago
Woah, hadn't heard of this guy but he's playing near where I live so I looked him up and then instantly recognise him from skism! XD
evilspaceinvader 1 week ago
hey I'm henry rollins and i'm smart...wait...he talks exactly like I do...shit.
UdonSmiff65 1 week ago
Wow. Seems like ignorance at its best.
JayBrys 1 week ago
:) skism
RecodeFilms 1 week ago
what a fuck boy!
brownbros94 1 week ago
i dont think he gets that its basically the same concept just in this new generation of electronic music, basically guitars (even though some bands utilize them) have been replaced with synths and so on; Bass is of course still used, whether bass guitar or electronic bass. ya know what i mean? theres still a "fuck shit and fuck shit up" attitude its just.. different. and though its being presented differently doesnt mean kids dont wanna thrash the fuck out, they just want to do that to electric
BASSunlimited 1 week ago
It's funny because this is exactly what that music sounds like.
beatlemaniac1966 1 week ago
Maha, a genius DubStep remix of his rant speech brought me here.
It's quite simple really. There is good music and there is bad music. How it's made is not important. Ever.
Fjonan 1 week ago
Rollins is 100% right about everything....
Hahaha, I fucking love this one!
Tonyr67 1 week ago
get with the fucking times man music is constantly changing anyway how can he be dissing this music when he's from black flag
n0m4xx 1 week ago
He has a point though, it takes more talent to create original music than it does to cut and paste sounds together to make a dubstep song.
THEMichaelCairo 1 week ago
@THEMichaelCairo Yeah, but that's just a wrong impression of rave music. Dubstep for example, isn't copy past work at all, but one of the most original genres in the dance scene ever. It takes a lot of skill to make such music, trust me, I'm a producer myself, and it's not easy.
spotCJ 1 week ago
Skisim brough me here!
ANoodsDubstep 1 week ago
A monkey with a microphone.
WWFfan1992 1 week ago
he obviously has no idea on the skill, talent, determination and persistane it takes to be a producer
jez3869 1 week ago
@jez3869 "persistane" isn't a word and i'm a producer. i produce punk music. being a producer and creating dubstep/rave music are two VASTLY different things.
askfoureyes 1 week ago
I don't necessarily agree with what he says, but Goddamn, he's got a way of saying it.
Javer80 1 week ago
By the way, The band Black Flag was the band Henry Rollins used to play in when he was a moody teenager :) (so funny to hear this guy talk haha)
felixtheRHYTHMCHEF 1 week ago
I hate punks like this who see their music as so morally and skillfully superior to other peoples. Henry mocks the rave producers about having no talent, search up Six Pack by Black Flag.
Not gonna lie, I could learn to play this in 2 minutes.
Dubstep is great.
felixtheRHYTHMCHEF 1 week ago
Very funny, but you know Henry...lots of people say the same shit about punk records. Ask my angry alcoholic grandfather about punk. Sounds like this, "A screaming self-important buffoon, backed up by three dudes who don't know how to play a guitar, & a drummer who is playing the wrong song." I don't agree with him at all, but really, people like different shit. I am not at all interested in making everyone happy, all the time. They can suck it. :]
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your grandad is right but the thing is, punk is about that.and it's awesome
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@shlibookensteppah Well said. I respect Henry Rollins. Fucking clicked on a video of him running his mouth, which he gets paid damn good money to do -spout off his opinions on whatEVER- and he makes decent sometimes brilliant points, articulating things in humorous, creative ways. But I could care less what an old punk thinks about electronic music just the same as an old Baby Boomer.
S2Cents 1 week ago
reminds me of dennis leary
hardyrulez96 2 weeks ago
@hardyrulez96 Leary was a hack. He stole all his best stuff from Bill Hicks, hell, even his entire persona was a ripoff of Bill Hicks.
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what's rave music?
horny0donkey0 2 weeks ago
Rollins is spot on. Modern rock these days is nothing more than repetitive, basic garbage with dumbed-down lyrics packaged specifically for fratboy idiots, "rebellious" pre-teens and general drunken morons. Nickelback is a prime example. Rave music can die a slow horrible death as well.
undertakerfreak1127 2 weeks ago
he looks like jim carrey to me. dunno why he just does
dotsydude 2 weeks ago
black flag is real music he is right skrillex deadmau5 and all that shit is not music kiss my fucking ass pussies for all who try and fight me
MYSEGAISBROKEN 2 weeks ago
What a cunt
jorndis 2 weeks ago
He's funny, but he doesn't really know what he's talking about. Apparantly he sees DJ's who are scratching (which rave DJ's never do anyway, hiphop dj's do) as people who make the rave music. A the guy who makes the rave music, that's the genious behind it. Did you ever tried programming the perfect dubstep bass? That requires skill, alot of skill. Rave music has a lot of small components which are alot of work, and all together it's one ingenious music composition. Think about it as one person
spotCJ 2 weeks ago
@spotCJ People can learn how to make Excision level dubstep within a year if they actually want to learn. That kind of music isn't nearly as difficult as actually playing an instrument.
UnderwhelmingPlywood 2 weeks ago
@UnderwhelmingPlywood A year? try 5 minutes.
Tri1umph 2 weeks ago
@Tri1umph you have clearly zero expierence as a producer, and don't know what you're talking about.
spotCJ 1 week ago
@Tri1umph would love to see what track you can produce in 5 minutes
wildlite 1 week ago
@wildlite Me too
spotCJ 1 week ago
@UnderwhelmingPlywood True for sure, but copying excisions style won't make you famous, and coming up with a complete new and special sound does. It's not the skill that you need, but the creativity. Of course, playing a guitar is much harder, but instead of using an already existing instrument, dance music producers come up with instruments nobody ever heard before, by constructing their own synthesizers. And that, my friend, takes much more creativity AND skill than playing the guitar.
spotCJ 1 week ago
@spotCJ I never said copying Excision. I said Excision level meaning at the level of skill and creativity that Excision has. No, it does not take more skill to do this than play guitar. If you actually knew anything about instruments and music, you wouldn't have said that. This is computer generated and much easier to pick up. Guitar takes a lot of theory and understanding. In dubstep you can just slap shit together until it's good. Dubstep is creative, but don't ever say it takes more skill.
UnderwhelmingPlywood 1 week ago
@UnderwhelmingPlywood This is just BULLSHIT. I've been playing instruments for 30 years and I've been producing electronically for 12. BOTH are as hard as each other to do it well that. Both are making music with instruments. Just because it's "computer generated" as you say doesn't mean a virtual synth is any easier to play than a Grand Piano. Any electronic music production is hard because you need to know how to play a music for it to sound good AND have audio engineering skills.
wildlite 1 week ago
@UnderwhelmingPlywood I've learned a Black Flag in 5 minutes. It's not hard with 4 or 5 chords to play...
Since you're talking about it, which instrument does Henry Rollins play exactly?
A lot of people making "that kind of music" play lots of instruments. You'll find they like lots of different kinds of music too. Even hard-core Punk. You'll probably find that a lot of them have respect for the people making it too, even if they don't understand it yet.
Rollins just lost my respect.
wildlite 1 week ago
@wildlite You learned a simple song, you fucking idiot. Jesus Christ, you are stupid. "I learned a really fucking simple song, so that means playing guitar takes little skill." My God, you are dense.
UnderwhelmingPlywood 1 week ago
@UnderwhelmingPlywood I said I learned HIS simple song in 5 minutes. It's taken me 25 years to learn a guitar to the extent I know it today. I also play the piano, trombone and double bass.I've been producing 12 years now and I'm a long way further still from mastering that. How long has it taken you to master electronic recording and producing?
wildlite 1 week ago
@wildlite I don't even know why you entered the argument. What was the point in stating that you learned a song? Why the fuck do you think I care? Also, I know people that have created this music. It did not take that long for them to figure it out. You don't need to be a masterful musician to make this shit. On another point, what gives me reason to believe you've made all of these musical accomplishments. You're probably just pulling stuff out of your ass. From now on, stay out of my arguments
UnderwhelmingPlywood 1 week ago
@UnderwhelmingPlywood I entered the argument cause you were dribbling shit in public. You didn't answer - how long have you been producing for? Do you even listen to electronic music? Anyone can get OK at it in a year. Hell, If you can't get something decent in 3 months then maybe move on. You can ask any producer/musician who has been playing LONG term, even with playing for a decade you're still going to learn a whole lot of stuff for decades to come.
wildlite 1 week ago
@wildlite You sir, must feel exactly the same as me!
spotCJ 1 week ago
@wildlite If you are able to become decent at making dubstep within 3 months, that proves how easy it is. Although, that depends on what you define as decent.
UnderwhelmingPlywood 1 week ago
@UnderwhelmingPlywood The guy is right you moron. You are one of those guys who just thinks he knows what he's talking about. Unlike me and Wildlite, you don't respect both types of music. EDM is not computer generated, it's made by hard work, and very precise skills and knowledge. And not just computer knowledge, but musical knowledge too. I've been playing piano for 6 years, and just started producing dubstep a year ago, and trust me, it's harder then playing the piano.
spotCJ 1 week ago
@spotCJ Not as much musical knowledge as most instruments. If you believe that make electronic music is harder than learning the theory behind a real instrument, you really are stupid.
UnderwhelmingPlywood 1 week ago
@UnderwhelmingPlywood I don't say it's harder, but it isn't easy either. You guys all think EDM is computer generated and easy as fuck. Strange, that producers get angry about that? Have some respect for what people do, and don't talk about it as if it is easy if you haven't experienced yourself. How would you feel if i would say that the instrument you play is easy as fuck and stupid? that's right, you would feel insulted. Show respect, and you will receive respect.
spotCJ 1 week ago
@spotCJ Dubstep is easier to write than guitar just like piano is easier to write than guitar. Some instruments are more complex than others. They all take skill, but some are easier to pick up than others. I like chilling to some dubstep just as much as the next guy, but I just think that instruments take more talent.
UnderwhelmingPlywood 1 week ago
@UnderwhelmingPlywood I disagree, I find guitar and piano far easier to play than mixing dubstep or electro.
evilspaceinvader 1 week ago
@evilspaceinvader What? Can you play like 5 chords? Shut the fuck up. Unless your at an extremely high level of skill with a guitar you have nowhere to talk. Dubstep does not take more skill than playing an actual instrument.
UnderwhelmingPlywood 1 week ago
@evilspaceinvader Then try bassoon on for size. When it's done fucking you, come back here and talk about what's easier.
JayBrys 1 week ago
@evilspaceinvader we'll see here in 3 more years when people are still playing guitars, and sceney weenie douche bags can't remember what the auto tune farts and fissing sounds of dubstep sounded like
ChingParr 1 week ago
@UnderwhelmingPlywood Turntables are NOT musical instruments...DJ's are not musicians...Keep that in mind and you will live a long and delusional free life.And please do not compare Guitars and piano's to dubstep in the future.No pathetic dj of today will ever be remembered a couple hundred years from now like how the world still enjoys the compositions of the centuries past musical composers of yesterday.
killtroy811 1 week ago
@killtroy811 Where the fuck have you been? I've been arguing this entire time that Dubstep and shit don't take more skill than guitar.
UnderwhelmingPlywood 1 week ago
@UnderwhelmingPlywood I was saying in so many words there is no comparison of the 2.No insults implied to you as an individual chuck.Have a good one!
killtroy811 1 week ago
@killtroy811 Ah, I see. Good luck to ya'.
UnderwhelmingPlywood 1 week ago
@UnderwhelmingPlywood ditto!
killtroy811 1 week ago
@spotCJ "and trust me, it's harder then playing the piano."
Okay, record yourself playing Rachmaninov'piano concerto number 2, and we'll believe you.
Oh, what's that? You can't? but...piano is easy, remember?
pamew 1 week ago
@pamew You sir, show me how you make some hard hitting dubstep, and I'll take back my argument. Oh what, you don't know how to? of course not idiot. I never even said piano was easy, I said producing music is harder. There's a whole lot of difference between playing a song someone already composed, and compose one yourself.
spotCJ 1 week ago
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@spotCJ "You sir, show me how you make some hard hitting dubstep, and I'll take back my argument. Oh what, you don't know how to? of course not idiot. "
Do you know how to play Rachmaninov's concerto NO. 2? No? Well, I guess that proves piano is harder! HERPDERP!
" I said producing music is harder."
No, both CAN be harder AND EASIER than each other. It's harder to write an opera than to play 3 blind mice, and it's harder to learn flight of the bumble bee than write basic dance.
pamew 1 week ago
@spotCJ
That's nice.... But you can have also great skills at doing soccergames. It doesn't mean that you are a great musician!
Tonyr67 1 week ago
@Tonyr67 that makes as much sense as saying that a chicken isn't a cow.. don't really get what you're trying to tell me man
spotCJ 1 week ago
@spotCJ
Just use that grey mass in your head a little bit and I'm sure you will come out!
Tonyr67 1 week ago
@Tonyr67 Muhahaha, sorry, but i'm not even going to take effort to think about your terrible logic. And learn some proper english man, its terrible...
spotCJ 1 week ago
@spotCJ weetje wat? anders proberen we het even in het nederlands, leg uit, wat bedoelde je?
spotCJ 1 week ago
@spotCJ
Je kunt een Gibson Les Paul niet vergelijken met een computer waar geluiden uit komen en dat dan muziek noemen.
Dat je leuk bezig bent en er heel behendig in bent, heeft niets te maken met muzikale capaciteiten. Net zo min als behendig zijn in een voetbalspel, om vervolgens te roepen, dat je muzikant bent, omdat je je spits in een vierkwartsmaat, 21x hetzelfde dansje voor het doel te laten doen!?
Overigens is je Engels beter dan je Nederlends. Ik tel in je 2 zinnetjes al zo'n 4 fouten!
Tonyr67 1 week ago
@Tonyr67 Hahaha, grappig dat jij mij komt vertellen dat mijn 'Nederlends' slecht is, ik zou graag horen waar mijn fouten zitten ;). Jij denkt blijkbaar te weten hoe je muziek maakt met een computer, oftewel, electronic music production, maar voor een simple minded persoon als jij zal ik het maar even op 'computermuziek' houden.
Een computer daar komt niet zomaar geluid uit, dat kost vele uren moeite en creativiteit, om dan uiteindelijk een mooie melodie te creeren.
spotCJ 1 week ago
@Tonyr67 Ook komt er bij het maken van een nummer op de computer meer muzikale kennis kijken dan jij je waarschijnlijk kan voorstellen. Het is hetzelfde werk als wat mozart deed, componeren, alleen dan eenvoudiger. Maar wie zegt dat simpel niet mooi kan zijn? De bekendste melodien zijn de eenvoudigsten. Sterker nog, het programmeren van de drumpatronen die in de DnB van tegenwoordig zitten, vereist een muzikaal inzicht wat maar weinigen gegund is. Nou jij weer.
spotCJ 1 week ago
@spotCJ
Volgens mij begin je toch echt elke nieuwe zin met een hoofdletter.
Wat ook weer iets anders is, dan door snel typen per ongeluk een verkeerde letter in te typen. Wel grappig, dat je nu iets beter je best doet!
Terecht dat je lacht.
Ik heb geen verstand van muziek. Van muzikale ritmes, heb ik al helemaal geen kaas gegeten. Laat staan drumpatronen. Stokpaardjes, paradiddles, rofl of 5, weet niet wat je bedoelt. Heb ook nog nooit met pro logic gewerkt.
Kortom, je hebt me overrompeld!
Tonyr67 1 week ago
@Tonyr67 Leuk hoe je met ironie laat weten dat jij wel degelijk de muzikale expert bent,
hou ik wel van. Ik heb nooit gezegd dat jij niks weet van muziek, maar je weet duidelijk te weinig van elektronische muziek. Ik ga niet nog meer voorbeelden gebruiken om je te overtuigen, maar ik raad je aan om eens een paar leuke synthesizer plugins voor Logic te kopen/downloaden, en te kijken wat je er mee kan. Dan zul je zien dat zo'n synth nog behoorlijk leuk is, en moeilijker dan je dacht ;)
spotCJ 1 week ago
@spotCJ
OK, ik stelde me misschien wat te arrogant op. No hard feelings verder.
Ik zal er eens naar kijken... ;)
Tonyr67 1 week ago
@Tonyr67 Ach, ik ben ook maar een brutaal jongetje van 15.
Maar ik ben apetrots op mijn vrienden die met veel moeite en keihard werken de wereld van de elektronische muziek in zijn weten te komen. Heb er dan toch altijd wat moeite mee als mensen respectloos tegenover die muziek staan. Maar goed, iedereen zijn eigen stijl, daarvoor zijn we tenslotte mensen :)
spotCJ 1 week ago
Most of you are deaf then.
laridget 2 weeks ago
Jokes on you old man. Henry Rollins is a shitty remix of Bill Hicks
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@wildlite They're actually a lot different, fuck head.
Glyph1992 2 weeks ago
@Glyph1992 Yeah you're right. One is genius and the other is shitty wanna-be. Sadly ironic given the topic of his content. The voices he uses, the delivery - he's listened to Bill Hicks just one hundred times too many.
wildlite 1 week ago
well, i love rave and hardcore, so dear Henry Rollins, go fuck a goat so hard that it's ass cracks
distortionkicks 2 weeks ago
Ugh... this is painful to watch. Once he got his first laugh it couldn't go anywhere- He's just fishing for laughter and applause, we get it, you don't like rave music. Didn't need to be 4 minutes long. CRINGE.
MKONE07 2 weeks ago 2
i wonder if he knows how to even use a music production program like fl studio
regularperson7 2 weeks ago
@regularperson7 A better question is:
"Why would anyone want to learn how to use FL?"
It's about one step up form those terrible "E-jay" programs, in my experience. Soulja Boy uses FL. Do you think of soulja boy as a great musician?
pamew 2 weeks ago
@pamew Haha, FL is the worlds most famous music production suite. It's being used by artists like Deadmau5, but also by bands, like the prodigy. Soulja Boy is the most sucky rapper in the world, but that doesn't say anything about FL. And about your opinion, you'll probably say that because you can't find out how it works ;)
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@spotCJ "FL is the worlds most famous music production suite."
Which makes it good...how, exactly? Paris Hilton is one of the most famous celebrities out there, using your logic that makes her good. Bravo.
"artists like Deadmau5"
Deadmau5 is fucking horrific.
"also by bands, like the prodigy. "
Lol, no, you assclown. Liam composes in Cubase, and live performance is managed with ableton as of recently. Way to prove my point.
pamew 1 week ago
@pamew So your Logic is correct? "Soulja Boy uses FL" and just because Soulja Boy sucks, so does FL? You're one of those narrow-minded people, who can't live with anything else they don't like, so they start hating. Deadmau5 maybe horrific for you, for lots of other he's a musical inspiration. I've never used FL myself, I'm a Reason user, but FL is a great piece of software, and you know it. You don't have to admit that, but just respect it, and don't talk shit about it.
spotCJ 1 week ago
@spotCJ "FL is a great piece of software, and you know it."
It's the most useless production suite I've ever used.
"and don't talk shit about it."
Or....what, exactly?
pamew 1 week ago
@pamew And about that prodigy thing, I don't really know the prodigy, I just thought it was that band. Could be another one too, just trying to tell you that Soulja Boy isn't the only one who uses it. And yes, Paris is famous and sucks, but those to can't be compared. Software won't be famous if it isn't good. FL is a great suit to help starting producers on their way, and has alot of good features, which I can't say about less known software like Acid.
spotCJ 1 week ago
@spotCJ "And about that prodigy thing, I don't really know the prodigy"
Clearly you don't. Which makes it odd that accuse me of not knowing what I'm talking about, then proceed to talk out of your ass about the thing you're defending. Great job genius!
"Software won't be famous if it isn't good."
Windows millennium was GOOD now?
"FL is a great suit to help starting producers on their way"
ie itt's a fucking KIDS TOY. I find it hilarious that you think the prodigy actually use it.
pamew 1 week ago
@pamew So FL sucks, thats your opinion. May I know why exactly? You're just saying it's shit and you have never used anything worse, but you don't give any other software which you prefer. And clearly, you don't know that much. FL is just carrier software. The music you'll get out of it depends on the plugins you use, and how you use them. I think you just hate because you never managed to get proper sound out of it...
spotCJ 1 week ago
@spotCJ "So FL sucks, thats your opinion. May I know why exactly? "
I already explained. It's aimed at kids. I've used free open source VST compatible software that blows it away. Sure, it's good, if you're a dumb kid who is easily confused. If you're an adult who knows how to use a computer on the other hand, not so much.
pamew 1 week ago
@pamew So you're mister smartass, which understands everything in a second, and starts off with the most advanced piece of software you can find? That's nice to know, but that isn't how it works for thousands of other people. Actually, almost every producer, also a lot of the big ones, started with some kind of software like FL, and moved on to better equipment later. Just because it's aimed at starting people doesn't make it bad, that's the worst argument I've ever heard...
spotCJ 1 week ago
@spotCJ It makes it bad for adults, and I assumed you were one. Sorry, didn't know I was speaking to a kid. Although that explains the stupidity of your posts.
When people discuss motorbikes, you don't hear people bringing up pedal operated tricycles because "they're good for kids."
I've decided to use similes that a kid could understand, seeing as you seem trapped at age 14 with your love of motherfuckin' Fruity Loops.
pamew 1 week ago
@pamew About the prodigy, I must have remembered the wrong band, but I once read somewhere about a famous band using FL. Don't really care which one it was actually, as you won't believe me anyway.. And yes, windows was good. Don't know what you use, but I'm a mac user, and I like both of the systems, but can't say one of them is better. And kids toy? I'll try to get my 11 years old sister to play with it, but I doubt she has any interest.
spotCJ 1 week ago
@spotCJ "but I once read somewhere about a famous band using FL"
...And yet you can't remember who this "famous" band are. That sums up my point nicely, hah.
"windows was good."
You liked windows millennium edition? Okay, now I know you're completely moronic.
pamew 1 week ago
@pamew Never fuckin used the millennium edition, and I don't know what you're talking about. But it seems clear to me, I'm a huge fan of windows XP, and I hate Vista and 7, and since they came out, the amount of people starting to buy OSX were growing explosively. Windows was a great system, but isn't anymore. XP is good, the rest sucks. But I guess that you'll never even think about admitting that FL isn't complete rubbish anyway. If that's the case, say it now, so I can stop wasting my time.
spotCJ 1 week ago
@spotCJ Chrit, this is like dealing with a 3 year old.
Right:
YOU said that FL couldn't be bad BECAUSE IT IS SO POPULAR. I pointed out that something being popular does not make it good, citing windows millennium as an example. Get it now, idiot?
FL is for children/teens. It was specifically aimed at people too dumb to use better software. Sorry that that upsets you, but it's true. Also, if you own a mac and use FL, that's just sad.
pamew 1 week ago
@pamew I don't use FL, never did either. I just don't like your respectless attitude. FL can teach kids to make music, and help them making their dreams reality. Don't really see why that should make the software bad.
spotCJ 1 week ago
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@spotCJ "FL can teach kids to make music, and help them making their dreams reality. Don't really see why that should make the software bad. "
Are you mentally retarded? Seriously, please answer me that. I have REPEATEDLY said now that I DON'T LIKE FL because AS AN ADULT it is FAR TOO SIMPLE for ME.
Get it now?
Christ, you're so busy trying to make yourself look smart that you haven't even fucking read what you're disagreeing with. Twat.
pamew 1 week ago
@spotCJ "I don't use FL, never did either."
That means you have literally NO WAY OF KNOWING IF IT'S EVEN USEFUL.
Holy fuck you're a moron.
pamew 1 week ago
@pamew And I don't 'love' FL, I respect it, which you should too. I think Cubase is one of the worst producer suits out there, but that's just my opinion, and I don't hate on people who think different, but respect their choice. I might be a kid, but I think my attitude is more the one of an adult than yours.
spotCJ 1 week ago
@spotCJ "I don't use FL, never did either."
I'm not in the habit of "respecting" inanimate objects., You fucking weirdo.
"I might be a kid, but I think my attitude is more the one of an adult than yours."
Hah! Well sorry champ, but you're a pretentious, egotistical little fuck. I dislike FL for the same reason I dislike Dora the explorer, Justin Bieber, and teletubbies. Because I'm an adult with motor and mental skill above that of a 5 year old. I thought you'd stopped replying btw?
pamew 1 week ago
@pamew I stop by this last one. The only one egoistical here is you. You just keep quoting my stuff, but it turns out to absolutely nothing. I can say FL is good and productive software, because one of my friends got a record deal with it. Which you, probably, can't say. That makes, for me, my opinion the right one. Don't really care if you believe me or not, that's it for me, discussion over. If you want to talk anymore, send me a PM, and we'll make an appointment. Good luck with life, rageguy.
spotCJ 1 week ago
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@spotCJ "I can say FL is good and productive software, because one of my friends got a record deal with it."
And yet, you are UNABLE TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF A SINGLE SIGNED ARTIST WHO USES IT. But, wait, your friend is a signed artist who uses it?
You forgot your own friend's name?
LMAO.
Oh my fucking god, you are the worst fucking liar ever.
Just get. the fuck. out.
pamew 1 week ago
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@spotCJ "I don't use FL, never did either."
I'm not in the habit of "respecting" inanimate objects., You fucking weirdo.
"I might be a kid, but I think my attitude is more the one of an adult than yours."
Hah! Well sorry champ, but you're a pretentious, egotistical little fuck. I dislike FL for the same reason I dislike Dora the explorer, Justin Bieber, and teletubbies. Because I'm an adult with motor and mental skill above that of a 5 year old. I thought you'd stopped replying btw?
pamew 1 week ago