Old Roman chant - Letentur celi et exultet terra

[poetcomic1]

I've lost interest in this discussion as your arguments are not top-rate: I've argued with the cutting edge of atheists before. Nothing less interests me. Study some more to be a more stimulating atheist!

[Judas130]

@poetcomic1 Atheists tend to define themselves against that which they are not, the theist. This polarity bores me but, without it, you feel patronised. All this is, is two people with different worldviews appreciating the same piece of dramatic art. We also belong to the same heritage. I'm not the original 'pagan' commenter. I spoke because nobody is a 'fraud' or 'liar'. As St Francis once said, 'No one is to be called an enemy, all are your benefactors, and no one does you harm.'

[poetcomic1]

Your "absolutely everything" is pitiful, inhuman and counterintuitive. The Big Bang is proven fact. It was discovered by a Catholic priest Father Georges Lemaitre and it reveals a primordial 'atom' of extreme 'potency' which is so charged with intelligence that it is incomprehensible. Just as a fetus contains detailed instructions for every whisker of an old man's beard. Accidental universe? You are truly and deeply insane.

[Judas130]

@poetcomic1 Its inhuman for a reason. We are part of the universe, not subject and separate to it. I never suggested the Big Bang was not fact. Were you're Prime Mover, First Cause, a reality, then the God of Abraham as a personal god, within the Universe, is an impossibility. Regardless, you are staring at the end product of innumerable years of destruction and entropy, recreation, material processes, and assuming it designed. it is not. mankind occupies less than 1% of its history.

[Judas130]

@poetcomic1 You're need for an external 'meaning', telos, end purpose is what is truly pitiful. Mankind is and has always been the steward of its own meaning. We are both proving this at the moment. Nothing is incomprehensible. everything can be reduced. It is a shame that you're love of the Catholic aesthetic is based, like many others, on a will to ignorance.

[Zebedex]

Man I wish Paul VI followed the oath of Pius X, that way we would have still this glorious music playing in the mass instead of stupid modernised instruments. This is music!

[acerb45666555]

i like Latin language. im happy its survived the ages intact.

[ulverup]

i like the second voice

[mgthesixth]

this sounds very similar to byzantine music tones

[MCuatto]

"Let the heavens rejoice and the earth exult before the face of the Lord: for He comes. Sing unto the Lord a new song, sing unto the Lord, all the earth. Sing unto the Lord and bless His name, proclaim well from day to day His salvation. Before the face of the Lord: for He comes!" However "venit" means both "He comes" and "He hath come" dependant upon the syllable stress indiscernible from the chant as it is so melismatic. It seems eschatological in tone so I wager "He comes" is most fitting.

[EmperorMato]

wow, very good recording. this is how i imagine medievil religious music. clear oriental influences, strong atmosphere. pity is, we always could only guess how the old music sounds :-/

however, great job!!

[TheBaddog666]

i lost my religion years ago, but these always give me comfort in times of sorrow. and imm a pagen. but god is always listening  no matrter what you call him. live with peace and peace sall be with you

[vanitasxx]

@TheBaddog666 converte Domino et pacem invenias

[poetcomic1]

@TheBaddog666 There's everything else and there is the unique WHOLLY OTHER incarnation of God as Jesus Christ. Either you believe that are you believe that thousands of martyrs and saints and the holy were ALL liars and frauds. You have no idea what you are missing!

[Judas130]

@poetcomic1 not frauds or liars. just ontologically incorrect about how the universe functions. as an atheist, from a catholic background, I still appreciate this culture. It is because the culture is performative, as the English Protestants used to say.

[poetcomic1]

@Judas130 "Ontologically incorrect?" Everything that exists, every object around you came into existence and will cease to exist. Being is 'imparted to it'. Being is contingent, not essential to anything. God IS. Is-ness is the indubitable sign of God's reality. God's most ancient name is I AM. Atheism is a cosmic denial of all that is seen and unseen, felt and even imagined. It is pure mental nihilism and....not a lot of fun!

[Judas130]

@poetcomic1 and should 'god' be that state of affairs, 'He' is but a synonym. I appreciate the culture for what it is, materially, and how it performs. I study Art and Literature professionally. there's nothing 'mentally nihilistic' about it. Perhaps you ought to give people such as Carl Sagan a chance, and see how - with no designer - amazing it all really is. or wail, like Kierkegaard, because Daddy isn't there.

[lovefaithhopelove]

The Lord must be very glad with what you are doing, young man.

Thank you.

[KittenButter]

I know I keep asking this, but does anyone know the lyrics to this one too? This is my new favourite :P

[Callixtinus]

@KittenButter :

L(a)etentur c(o)eli, et exsultet terra ante faciem Domini: quoniam venit.

Cantate Domino canticum novum, cantate Domino, omnis terra.

Cantate Domino, et benedicite nomen ejus: bene annunciate de die in diem salutare ejus.

Ante faciem Domini: quoniam venit.

[KittenButter]

@Callixtinus

Thank yooouu!

Bless Callixtinus.

[zemotheon12987]

@Callixtinus what does it mean?

[zemotheon12987]

@Callixtinus what does it mean? oh wait nvm. its from the davidic psalms:

sing to the Lord a new song, Lord of all the earth. Sing to the lord, and glorify his name. Thats all I got. do u have a complete translation?

[ecclesiaprimus]

One feels like crying when Catholics, imitating Protestants, talk about the so called "Christian Music", with that omnipresent guitar, whereas they do not even take a little time to explore the grandeur of our music, art, architecture, and simply all we call "Western Civilization" would have not existed were not by the Universal Church.

[LScipio]

@ecclesiaprimus My friend, christian music isn´t exclusive for protestants, we catholics are chirstians too

[Symphony2DX]

haunting power.... it kinda reminds me of how powerful GOd is. God bless the Holy Roman Church through the intercessions of Sts. Peter and Paul.

[PaleoThomist]

Exquisite.

I understand that Ensemble Organum or a group affiliated with them are working on transcribing the Old Roman repertoire into later neume or contemporary western notation (I cannot remember which). It would be wonderful to be able to read this wonderful music without needing an advanced degree.

As I have said before, I'll say it again: this needs to be restored to liturgical usage. (I know, I know, don't hold my breath, but one can dream.)

[titussenlair]

How to comment inexpressible...

Thanks !

[frenchl1on]

thank you :)

[ammazzamoro]

Do we know the words of the prayer at hand?

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Alms, Fasting, Prayer.

[PaleoThomist]

@ammazzamoro

Letentur (laetentur) celi (coeli) et exultet terra ante faciem Domini: quoniam venit.

"Let the heavens rejoice and let the earth be glad before the face of the Lord: because He comes."

[ammazzamoro]

@PaleoThomist

Deo Gratias, dear brother.

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Alms. Fasting. Prayer.

[treblechoir99]

Incredible harmony. 

[Death2Green]

Very nice.