@auxil47 If you were to pull the Coyote motor from a new Mustang, and put it on an engine dyno, it would make damn near 500 horse. We should be grateful that the big 3 are underrating their powerplants with "net" ratings. During the original musclecar era, everything carried a "gross" rating. By the time all the accesories and full exhaust were installed, that magnificant "gross" rating, was considerably less. Coyote RWHP #'s are damn near the factory 412 crankshaft rating.
wow after reading all the shit on here non of u have ever raced on a strip lol its easy to do a rolling drag on an expressway retards but from a dead stop a mustang with a 4.6 will take down the camero, trans am, firebird, vette with a LS1. and of course alot has to do with the driver! the video is about a sho and subaru! argue about that. nothin ur talking about has anything to do with either cars get a clue
@1kurgan1 im with you man. most of these internet fools drive a pos and just quote stuff on the internet. when you take it to the streets its a different thing. maybe your paper quotes mean shit on the internet. but time and time again. the ls1 is boss. you can say all the shit you heard in motortrend fanboy mag. but when it comes to reality. most 5.7 will beat their ford equal. a 98 trans am weights about 3600. a 98 cobra weights about 2700. and it still gets its ass schooled.
@unseenufo Hey tool, I'm not sure where you get your 'facts' from but the '97-'98 cobra coupe weighs in at 3,400lbs. You were only off by 700lbs...or 26%. Loser. Remember also that GM NEEDS that big boat anchor engine in order to win, they can't design a good small engine.
@obeast17 What do you mean thats all i answered. You did not ask anything. you just made statements. i got defensive? You assume to much. i simply typed text into a box that you read. i know internet trolls like you think you can get people mad. nice try tho.
N the gt is more of a super car. A sports car can be just about anything. As long as it is sporty.
whoever compares an ls1 to the new 5.0 is a dumb ass. you cant compare the ls1 that was first made in a vette in 1997 to the new 5.0 made recently. the ls1 was smoking the new gts in 05. up untill the new 5.0 does it have a chance. gm is not what it used to be. all cars are pigs now. cept the 5.0. About time a stang beat a chevy without a supercharger.
i agreee. not a bad platform to upgrade. i want a new 5.0. i am a gm fan. but the new pontiac couple sux. the new ss is a heavy piece of shit. this is the first year i will be cheering for ford. its the only company ATM that has its head straight. i still own my ls1 t56 trans am. But as for new cars i agree ford is better.
@unseenufo In 06 I went out and bought a GTO and hated it, sold it and bought a 2008 Mustang GT and love the car, and I recently picked up a 1990 SHO that I am going to boost, videos of the build coming soon
@unseenufo by gts i hope you meant mustang. and if your comparing a sport car to a pony car then you sir are a dumb ass. i'd like to see your fancy pants ls1 take on a ford gt
@unseenufo you didnt answer anything else you just got all defensive and cried because i said you were a dumb ass, the reason i said ford gt is because thats a sports car like the vette, but look it would be like saying my zx10 is faster then my baby's stroller. two different things you dig?
lol. its not a bodykit r-tard. Its got the addition you get to put on the side skirts which isnt over the top and it has a front lip, the front lip isnt the best.. but not a bodykit for damn sure.
@undeadkillers bro its fast to you because u never raced a vette or a cobra anything with 350 400hp+ quit telling me 275hp is fast thats SLOW ...its fast to people who is used to driving 4 bangers and shitboxes
@HiImCaysE the man is right ford focus is the gayest vehicle ever produced...and if ur a man and u own a ford focus AND u tricked it out..ur HOMO the fullest extent..so accept the fact dude , you ARE a queer!
That was possibly the most obvious statement I've ever heard... But if you're trying to tell me that a shit box N/A 2 liter is pulling anywhere near the horespower, or even has close to the capability of an ej20 or ej25 you clearly don't know shit about anything...
@tytanium1111 check out eco motors if to want to see an insane engine 2cyl 4 piston turbo opposed piston opp.cylinder 296lbs 1.1hp/lb 664tq! the opposed cylinder design its similar to the legendary ej series' block <<---gotta love those.
@codyfennern That was possibly the most obvious statement I've ever heard... But if you're trying to tell me that a shit box N/A 2 liter is pulling anywhere near the horespower, or even has close to the capability of an ej20 or ej25 you clearly don't know shit about anything...
i love at least SOMETHING from all manufacturers, but it seems in all the supersnake vs.ZR1 vs. Viper discussion the Ford GT was curiously left out of the conversation. Seems to me that would be in closer range. All of us few U.S. auto supporters should be sticking together anymore , not doing the old ford chevy dodge thing. they all have something to bring to the table for the right person. I'm just saying.
@davewelds2 you'd be right but the tard decided since ford doesn't make the GT anymore it couldn't be included. yet he wants to talk about the non street legal viper ACR-x... he's an idiot, and a perfect example of why you should practice safe sex.
lol this is funny... the sho stock came with 220hp... then the new gen like 98 came with 235hp.. the new one are around 365hp... but i gotta say..a 220hp sho would not stand a chance against a wrx... the older ones yes... but new ones hell no 265hp.. and will hit 0-60in 5 second range.. the sti with 305hp would make a fool out of any sho ( stock that is)
Mmmm...you just got waxed by a Ford Taurus motherfucker!!! lol I love the look on peoples faces when I beat 'em or hang with 'em in my SHO. Soooo funny.
buick is made by gm same as chevy. I want to see a SHO beat a cock blowing grand national, or how about a real cock blowing import like a supra or skyline, maybe an nsx? Since I am a dodge guy I will just keep raping blue oval with MOPAR!!!
Most often passed at a raceway? Are you joking or are you dumb? what holds the record at the ring? (viper acr) naturally aspirated mind you which everything it beat wasn't.(almost nothing ford uses to compete with chevy or dodge is naturally apirated) ( PUSSIES) where does ford hold any recent records? they don't. how is your gt500 going to take a challenger srt-10? it won't. hennessey already makes camaro's and challengers that beat them. and it is fair because the gt500 is supercharged to.
ok and let me use the extra 50 grand it would have left over for not buying a hennessey and i'll install myself a bigger and badder supercharger, and then we can talk. That's like comparing apples and oranges. The super charger in the hennesey is alot bigger and alot stronger, so obviously it's gonna make it faster. Lets compare the hennesy next to idk the saleen s302 extreme, then lets see who wins.
but performance for dollar, the ford is definately the winner. gt500 is far cheapers than anything hennessey puts out, and if you want to go for more, you can drop another 10 grand and get a supre snake! its got something like 750 hp.
ford uses supercharged and turbo applications due to the fact they're not sticking big ass motors in everything. don't be jealous. and it's not fair really. since the gt500 is a stock 5.4L supercharged and you're braggin cuz engines that are bigger AND supercharged at hennessey beat them? give me a break.
You know whats funny to is how the Chevy Camaro has a big 6.2 liter in it. While the Mustangs have a little 281 4.6 liter in them except for the GT500 . And there thumping the Camaros. Now what would you think if Ford built some 6 liter. They would blow the Camaro out of the water.
yea the bowtie boys still seem to not be able to figure out how to use anything besides cubic inches. oh well i'll take my 32 valve 4.6 over a chevy motor any day.
@svtlincoln Hey me too man, You know how the camaros suppose to be putting out 426 hp well if you look at some of these dyno runs on youtube the camaros only putting out around 350 hp.
Well I think it's still Chevy and Dodge building the cars that compete with Ferraris, Lamborghinis and Porches while you all are stuck on trying to outrun the new Camaro, lol.
@Jeffero77 trying to outrun??? 1st of all my point was to another dumbass saying that ford "had to use boost" and i was simply saying that chevy "has to use cubic inches" now back to this trying to outrun thing, sure if you're talking about the GT,the GT is with .4 in the 1/4 not bad for a car that's down over 80 cubic inches to the camaro. that's ok though the new DOHC 5.0 is due out very soon. But now is now, and the SuperSnake will demolish the camaro. so trying???
Well if you want to put the best of Ford, the SuperSnake is your candidate right? Against the Dodge Viper or Corvette ZR-1 it won't stand a chance, so considering the top of the line model from each company Ford doesn't really measure up.
@Jeffero77 The SuperSnake will set you back about 72k, the ACR-X will get ya for about 100k and the ZR-1 103k. Kinda hard to compare the SuperSnake to a car that is over 30k more expensive. The SuperSnake ran a 12.0, the ZR1 in STOCK form, is a 11.5. To me .5 in the 1/4 ain't worth 30k. (both those times are from car and driver) Now as far as the viper goes i'm assuming you're talking about the ACR-X, which is a NON street legal car, and doesn't even belong in that comparison
@Jeffero77 that's not trying you tard. the Super Snake will eat that new camaro, and the FYI a 0-60 time of 5secs isn't what a subaru SUV runs you idiot. the STi is at 4.9 and the standard WRX is a turd.
@svtlincoln 2004 Subaru Forester 2.5 XT Turbo 0-60 mph 5.2 Quarter mile 13.6 , haha. My brother's friend has an SHO and my bro's WRX can smoke it any day being a mid 12 second car... try again the SHO is nothing special.
@Jeffero77 Hmm a stock SHO will run a 13.7 STOCK, and where'd you find that 0-60 time? because everything i've read has the 2.5 xt at a 5.9 - 6.4 with the best 1/4 mile being a 13.9 for a manual trans car. How bout u run a stock wrx (not sti) against the SHO and watch that ass get stomped. and the SHO has something no subaru will ever have... class. so please tell me how a stock sti even can run a 5sec 0-60 without even trying, when it's best time is 4.7secs? hmm i smell bullshit.
@svtlincoln I was referring to a specific model year for that speed but just showing you that it was done, the newer ones do run the late 5 second range. And yes the WRX will still beat a SHO of any year stock for stock. Stupid fanboy.
@Jeffero77 NO A STOCK WRX NON STI WILL NOT OUTRUN A SHO. the new SHO clocks in with a 13.7 sec 1/4 mile, while the impreza wrx NON STI runs in the low/mid 14's. please tell me how a 13sec 1/4 mile is slower then a 14 sec??
@svtlincoln Edmunds put the 09 WRX at 5.2 0-60 and a 13.7 1/4 mile, so at least they're near equal if it makes you happy... of course they did this with a smaller boosted engine... wait?!? Did they just beat Ford at their own game?
@Jeffero77 Nope. The EcoBoost is exactly that. ECO. has less boost than the subby and gets better gas mileage. also makes a shit load more power, 365hp vs 224hp for the wrx.
@Jeffero77 lets see 2.5 Liter making 230hp, that's 92 horsepower per liter, The SHO is a 3.5 Liter making 365hp, that's 104 horsepower per liter. Let's see more hp per liter, less boost and better gas mileage. hmm.... wait weren't you the one comparing a 6.2 liter to a n/a 4.6? yea you were. oops...
@svtlincoln Again you show that you know nothing, the reason they run less boost is because they have 2 turbos stuck in that car, and I was talking about SPEED, considering it is the same speed as the SHO they are equal. I'm trying to help you find help by giving you a compromise but on the street the WRX will always win. My brother's car run's mid to low 12s with almost no upgrades sod don't tell me what it can or cannot do. If you want to race family sedans you can race my 300 SRT-8
@Jeffero77 BLAH BLAH BLAH, and now out of nowhere you have a srt8 go figure. and you are S T U P I D. less boost because they have twin turbos?? um tard, twin turbos are to help with something called turbo lag. and a standard WRX does not run low 12's with basic bolt ons. why do idiots like you say that when a car pulls on the strip it won't do the same on the street? i'll race your srt8 any day chump, my mark viii will whoop that ass. ran a 9.61 in the 1/4 3 days ago. sean hyland DOHC 6.0 :)
@svtlincoln I could care less... quite honestly I can't beleive i've aruged with you this long. It's like talking to a wall lol. Have fun racing slow cars.
@svtlincoln So you're saying it's more fair to compare the supersnake which is $84,390 to the $30,000-34,000 Camaro SS? Keep diggin deeper maybe on day you'll succeed.
@svtlincoln Well if you want to put up the xtremely tuned and upgraded versions I'm just saying the Camaro will always win, which is easily shown in comparisons.
@Jeffero77 as it should 6.2 liter vs a 4.6 liter, that's ok we'll talk again once the new stang debuts with the 400hp DOHC 5.0. then we'll see what kinda BS you can come up with. won't be long til chevy axes the camaro again, soon as that government bailout money dries up.
The Gtx1 and Gt1000 compete with the fucking bugatti, so dont tell me the shit bout fard not competeing on high class stage dumbass, the gt-1000 kills Zr1, look up zr1 vs gt-1000 U will see how "bad" FORD is at competeing against supercars!
@kevinreid The best SHO engine was just produced for the current generation. MORE horsepower, MORE torque, BETTER fuel economy and is over 1.5 seconds faster in the 1/4 that any previous SHO. Now go ahead and tell me what all you can do to the older ones and what they'll do blah blah blah. Stock vs Stock isn't even a contest.
@svtlincoln no i wont b/c i dont study the taurus, but point was ford didnt figure it out. and what yamaha did took ford years to build something better. & stock for stock the 20 year old sho holds its own with good tires & set up.
@kevinreid The SHO taurus yamaha was a joint effort, it didn't take ford years to build something better, in late 1992 the 4.6 DOHC V8 made its debut in the 93 model Lincoln Mark VIII. That same engine block design was used all the way from 93-2004, and is now being used in the 2011 mustang GT that's coming with the DOHC 5.0. I'd say this engine was way more successful than any engine Yamaha has ever built..
@rockstardrinker95 pussy ass 4.6 pos.... hmmmm whatever your say. The entire line of Ford Modular engines has enjoyed success since 1991. not my fault that Government Motors can't seem to get their head around using anything besides fuckin pushrods. Let's see the new 6.2L makes 426HP or 68.7HP per liter, the new DOHC 5.0(it's a modular) makes 412HP or 82.4HP per liter. That's an ass whoopin in anybody's book. Cracked Head Every Valve Rattles Oil Leaks Every Time. Only faggots wear bowties.
@rockstardrinker95 Yea I don't have any Ford products sittin in my driveway... I just decided to make my username SVTLincoln for the hell of it. are you that fuckin stupid? I do own a Ford and it does have a modular engine. oh and dumb fuck you need to go check out the 2011 GT vs the SS, it handles better, and is faster in the 1/4.
@svtlincoln lol dude i really dont have time to argue about ford vs chevy ok i think ford is shit,you think chevy is shit big deal,i have a life,unlike you on youtube 24/7
@svtlincoln not really a ford hater personally idsay fuck the imports and quit fighting about wich usa brand is better but that mustang only won due to gearing and weight not motor lighten the chevy by about wut 300 hundred or so or ad a passenger and have same gearing and its prolly neck and neck
@bergaflickal only won because.... ok you say lighten the camaro blah blah whatever. Don't forget the mustang gives over 60 cubic inches to the camaro, yet still makes damn near as much power. One day GM will join the rest of the world and figure out that maybe there's something to this whole overhead camshaft thing.
@svtlincoln and i hear ya man i like the mustang my self i am a chevy guy but i give a good american car its props the next gen maro is gonna be lighter so then the race will be on.. and the dohc...idk never heard a muscle car having dohc back in the day
@bergaflickal musclecar's also didn't have fuel injection, computer controlled ignition systems, most were a/c delete, they didn't have power windows, or OnStar. Times change, Gm wants to stick to pushrods then good for them, but until they swap to an OHC design they don't stand a chance. Like I said there's a reason that lil 5.0 makes nearly as much HP as the 6.2, and the new Boss goes even further out powering the camaro with 440hp.
@mikskater33 This is the 2nd reply to you, anyway i just noticed that you're the same idiot who said ford only new how to use heavy cast iron blocks. Which of course was incorrect. Then you made your other dumbass comment, which was also incorrect. Then you start name callin. You're a lil bitch, nobody likes you. You think you know everything when the reality is you don't know a damn thing, which you've now proven not once.. but TWICE. Cracked Head Every Valve Rattles Oil Leaks Every Time.
@mikskater33 you sure about that?? 4.6 DOHC debuted in 1993 with an aluminum block and heads. The cobra began using the all aluminum 4.6 DOHC in 96. The new 5.0 DOHC? aluminum. Next time you wanna talk your shit try gettin your facts straight kiddo.
@mikskater33 1st I don't own a mustang. 2nd a 4.6 gives up 60 cubic inches to a LS1. 3rd. The new 2011 mustang makes the camaro it's bitch. Let's take a look at hp per liter. The LS1 camaro made 57hp per liter. A DOHC 4.6 makes almost 70hp per liter. That is an ass kicking. It doesn't take tons for a 4.6 to blow the doors off of an LS1. Minor bolt ons and a SOHC 4.6 stang will run 12's with sticky tires. Hell my 4,000lb linc runs a low 14 with nothin but some gears, catback and a tune.
you're a faggot, end of story. just because a car has more horsepower per liter doesn't make it faster. that argument is irrelavent. you have to put a lot more into a 4.6 to even come close to an ls1 with bolt ons. and stop being so full of yourself, you seem like the kind of guy that would beat off to a picture of himself.
@mikskater33 big man still name callin. Gears, Chip, Stall. and auto equipped stang will beat a stock LS1. The reason hp per liter matters?? it shows that a ford engine is way more capable of making power. Now take take your fuckin pushrods and shove them up your ass, as i'm sure you're used to taking things in the ass. you stupid motherrfuckin kid. you're a dumbass, go fuckin skate in front a fuckin 18 wheeler. your dad should be shot for not wearin a condom.
@svtlincoln oh man you're so e-tough, i'm shaking in my boots. you're the load your mom should've swallowed. and you proved my point right there. you need gears, chip and a stall to beat a STOCK ls1. do the same to the camaro (aka make it even..) and the camaro will take a fat shit on your little buttstain.
@mikskater33 make it even??? the LS1 has a 60 cubin inch advatage you dumb fuck. what don't you fuckin get?? are you that dumb? yea you are. Oh well stock for stock, a DOHC 5.0 fuckin smokes the new camaro. while giving up 1.2 liters in displacement. argue with that shit brains. That was the point of my original comment dumbass. Chevy is throwing c.i.d. and engines and Ford is still whoopin their ass. a DOHC 4.6 stroked to 5.3 will smoke an LS1 all day long and it's still down 30c.i.d.
@svtlincoln If you want an example of an engine, you only need to look at fords "Coyote" engine.
DOHC, Ti-VCT which is a neat feature that allows the intake and exahust valve timing to be independantly controlled, 412hp, 390 lb/ft of torque, naturally aspirated...
And if Ford pumps out a direct injection version, it would stomp on its mainstream, foreign and domestic rivals.
@mattmatt115 Oh I'm very well aware of that technology. Ford continually pumps out engines that liter for liter can't be touched. They were ahead of the curve with the first DOHC 4.6 and are continuing that now. Glad someone else realizes it. :)
@mattmatt115 The Coyote already has direct injection. They don't have Eco Boost (Ford's Turbo for those who don't know) yet. But yeah, I read a full write up on it and they put a bunch of wish list stuff into it. Awesome engine, too bad it costs $6500 for the crate engine. Then you gotta buy everything else to put on it :(
@lmorrow4 "So we wanted to make sure when we did the initial design work that it would be robust enough to not have to re-engineer the whole thing down the road and any subsequent programs would be very investment efficient and time efficient and so we did package DI injectors, we did really improve the bulkhead strength to take supercharging,"
Actual quote from magazine article. DI is nothing new though, as Diesels have been using it for some time.
@CarpathianCarl From Ford.com: Mustang Engine Specifications: Fuel Delivery Sequential Multi-port Electronic Fuel Injection Sequential Multi-port Electronic Fuel Injection Sequential Multi-port Electronic Fuel Injection Sequential Multi-port Electronic Fuel Injection :::scratches head::: Hmmm...no DI listed on Ford.com for 2012 Mustangs of any flavor. The engine was TESTED and CERT'ed for DI, but does not currently come with it.
@lmorrow4 Just going off a quote from a Ford rep in a popular Mustang magazine. No idea why you're getting sarcastic. Like I said, I posted the actual quote in my previous post, just copy and paste. They talked about using DI, due to the idea of Eco Boost (turbo charging) in the future for the 5.0.
@svtlincoln Jesus fucking christ you guys argue like a bunch of 2 year olds, on mikskater33's side though, man shut up about the "cubic in advantage shit" size doesnt mean anything.
@kylemoe07 you moron. go back and read it. and come to me when you got your shit straight. Mik was the one supporting the larger GM motors. I was tryin to show his stubborn ass how much more HP per liter a Ford modular engine makes. and how the new 5.0 flat out kills the LS1 despite being smaller.
@svtlincoln All I got to say is it only took 14 years for DOHC to finally get there. The LSx platform is still amazing, and it took a long time for other V8's to compete against simple old pushrods.
@1Kurgan1 WTF are you talking about?? are you that dumb?? When Ford debuted the DOHC 4.6 in 1993 that engine made 280hp off the showroom floor. The 5.7L in the camaro that same year made 275hp. That means from the beginning the DOHC engine of Ford made over 12hp more per liter. When the LS made it's debut in the camaro it was rated at 305hp, that same year the N/A DOHC 4.6 in the Cobra was also rated at 305hp. Same hp despite being down 70 cubic inches. 14 years? get your shit straight liar.
@svtlincoln I wasn't talking about LT1's moron, learn to read, I said LSx, and I said 14 years (14 years ago is 1997, or are you bad at math as well? And the LS1's in the F-Bodys were rated lower than the LS1's in the Vettes despite the same motor, list the HORRIBLE factory stats all you want, a 98 Fbody will walk a 98 Cobra. Sit down and stfu, learn to read and count next time, and don't bring garbage factory ratings to the table.
@svtlincoln And secondly, I could give a flying fuck about hp/liter, you want hp/liter, go buy a fucking Honduh you ricer. Power/Weight ratio is all that matters, and a 98 Cobra vs a 98 Camaro are about the exact same curb weight while the Camaro is a longer and wider car.
@1Kurgan1 LMAO wow you really are THAT dumb. HP per liter is a meaure of an engines capabilities and is efficiency. Has nothing to do with rice. Point is no matter what an OHV engine will NEVER be able to do what an OHC engine of the same size will do. NO ifs, ands or buts, it just won't. I listed fact. hp because BOTH the LS1 and 4.6 DOHC were underrated. FYI for a LS1 to make the same hp per liter as a STOCK 4.6 it'd need to make 402hp. What's next you wanna tell me carbs are better that EFI?
@svtlincoln What I'm saying is, check the prostock cars, check the cars running at drag week. Almost all of them will be running OHV engines. You can get your panties in as tight of a bind as you like, efficiency is great, but like I said, power to weight is what matters, sure the 4.6L might make close to as much power with less cubes, but what does that matter when the LS1 is a slightly lighter motor, and makes bolt on power much easier. Only decent 4V is a fully built one or a Terminator.
@1Kurgan1 Wow guess you really can't fix stupid and you're living proof of that. Just because all the ignorant old ass fuckers are running OHV engines doesn't mean that's the way to go. Most of them are running carbs too.... and compared to EFI a carburetor is a hunk of shit. I have a total of $400 invested in bolt ons on my 4.6 and my car weighs in at a hair under 4200lbs and knocks down 14.3sec 1/4 miles with a 175,000 engine between the fender wells.
@svtlincoln It's not about OHV, your too stupid to understand that the 4.6 is a heavy motor. It may make more with it's cubes, but it weighs more and for it's weight the LSx can make more power, and easier. Like Nancy below said, look how many LSx swaps are out there, not many 4.6L swaps. be stuck on whatever stupid idea you got with your slow ass car, I could probably knock a 14.3 out with my GTX with the supercharger pulley off with a V6 OHV lol.
@1Kurgan1 LMFAO!!! You wait a month and all you can come back with is "it's heavier" The LS1 is 24lbs lighter. That's it... a whole 24lbs. You think you can run a 14.3 without your supercharger? 1st i'd bet my fuckin house on that. i watched ur vid, 25-70 took you just over 5secs, my vid 25-70 takes my heavy ass car just over 5secs. AND you have boost with over a 500lb curb weight advantage. Should've know u were a GTP owner, you're all fuckin idiots.
@svtlincoln 24lb is all that matters, if it makes more power and weighs less than why the hell do cubes matter? And it was a joke, but people have ran 14's NA on 3800's. And your 25-70 took over 6 seconds. And funny thing is, I've owned a 4.6L DOHC as well, just sold my 96 continental with 240k on it, and I've owned 4 SHO's, and a Grand Marquis. I like your cubes argument, shit gets shot down, heavy ass motor, start your retard flail of excuses. Weights matters, you're dumb, end of story.
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KJBPSkipper 2 months ago
Ford is so cheap with the horse power, the new Mustang should be well over 500 BPH.
auxil47 5 months ago
@auxil47 If you were to pull the Coyote motor from a new Mustang, and put it on an engine dyno, it would make damn near 500 horse. We should be grateful that the big 3 are underrating their powerplants with "net" ratings. During the original musclecar era, everything carried a "gross" rating. By the time all the accesories and full exhaust were installed, that magnificant "gross" rating, was considerably less. Coyote RWHP #'s are damn near the factory 412 crankshaft rating.
madtownmadman 3 months ago
Woohooo The car can go faster in a straight line. Now what? Put a rocket on a tricycle and you can go faster than both of them!
twinnuke 5 months ago
wow after reading all the shit on here non of u have ever raced on a strip lol its easy to do a rolling drag on an expressway retards but from a dead stop a mustang with a 4.6 will take down the camero, trans am, firebird, vette with a LS1. and of course alot has to do with the driver! the video is about a sho and subaru! argue about that. nothin ur talking about has anything to do with either cars get a clue
26jhoover 6 months ago
@1kurgan1 im with you man. most of these internet fools drive a pos and just quote stuff on the internet. when you take it to the streets its a different thing. maybe your paper quotes mean shit on the internet. but time and time again. the ls1 is boss. you can say all the shit you heard in motortrend fanboy mag. but when it comes to reality. most 5.7 will beat their ford equal. a 98 trans am weights about 3600. a 98 cobra weights about 2700. and it still gets its ass schooled.
unseenufo 6 months ago
@unseenufo 3300*
unseenufo 6 months ago
@unseenufo Hey tool, I'm not sure where you get your 'facts' from but the '97-'98 cobra coupe weighs in at 3,400lbs. You were only off by 700lbs...or 26%. Loser. Remember also that GM NEEDS that big boat anchor engine in order to win, they can't design a good small engine.
lmorrow4 5 months ago
@lmorrow4 it was a typo that i corrected one second later. see comments. nice try tho.
unseenufo 5 months ago
that sho can run
neshabadd100 8 months ago
@obeast17 What do you mean thats all i answered. You did not ask anything. you just made statements. i got defensive? You assume to much. i simply typed text into a box that you read. i know internet trolls like you think you can get people mad. nice try tho.
N the gt is more of a super car. A sports car can be just about anything. As long as it is sporty.
Again run your car not your mouth.
unseenufo 8 months ago
BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA MY CAR IS BETTER THAN YOURS BLABLABLABLA WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
jadderusha 10 months ago
whoever compares an ls1 to the new 5.0 is a dumb ass. you cant compare the ls1 that was first made in a vette in 1997 to the new 5.0 made recently. the ls1 was smoking the new gts in 05. up untill the new 5.0 does it have a chance. gm is not what it used to be. all cars are pigs now. cept the 5.0. About time a stang beat a chevy without a supercharger.
unseenufo 1 year ago
@unseenufo 3v 4.6 hold there own...
kkleekyger 11 months ago
@kkleekyger
i agreee. not a bad platform to upgrade. i want a new 5.0. i am a gm fan. but the new pontiac couple sux. the new ss is a heavy piece of shit. this is the first year i will be cheering for ford. its the only company ATM that has its head straight. i still own my ls1 t56 trans am. But as for new cars i agree ford is better.
unseenufo 11 months ago
@unseenufo In 06 I went out and bought a GTO and hated it, sold it and bought a 2008 Mustang GT and love the car, and I recently picked up a 1990 SHO that I am going to boost, videos of the build coming soon
kkleekyger 11 months ago
@unseenufo by gts i hope you meant mustang. and if your comparing a sport car to a pony car then you sir are a dumb ass. i'd like to see your fancy pants ls1 take on a ford gt
obeast17 9 months ago
@obeast17
yeah i meant mustang. so already you are turning to personal insults? we have a saying here in texas.
run your car not your mouth. btw i own a lightning and a trans am. i also have a durango r/t.
only a fool limits himself to a car company.
unseenufo 9 months ago
@unseenufo you didnt answer anything else you just got all defensive and cried because i said you were a dumb ass, the reason i said ford gt is because thats a sports car like the vette, but look it would be like saying my zx10 is faster then my baby's stroller. two different things you dig?
obeast17 8 months ago
I have a 270hp turbo festiva.... oh wait, its still a slow festiva lol.
talonboostin30 1 year ago
275 horsepower would be fast as hell.........on a motorcycle.....
vandenking 1 year ago
It's a WRX. It's not even an STi because a real STi owner knows that you don't add GAY ASS Body KITS !
Subsw00fers 1 year ago
@Subsw00fers
lol. its not a bodykit r-tard. Its got the addition you get to put on the side skirts which isnt over the top and it has a front lip, the front lip isnt the best.. but not a bodykit for damn sure.
pauLx022 1 year ago
nice... way to go ...
CrazyMonkey06 1 year ago
last time i checked 275hp isnt FAST...fail
born2makk2007 1 year ago
@born2makk2007 Last time i checked, 275hp is fast on a vehicle.
undeadkillers 1 year ago
@undeadkillers u must drive a dodge neon then if u really think 275hp is fast u douche
born2makk2007 1 year ago
@born2makk2007 The base model Ariel Atom has less than 275hp and still goes like hell.
undeadkillers 1 year ago
@undeadkillers bro its fast to you because u never raced a vette or a cobra anything with 350 400hp+ quit telling me 275hp is fast thats SLOW ...its fast to people who is used to driving 4 bangers and shitboxes
born2makk2007 1 year ago
@born2makk2007 Somebody obviously doesn't know what power to weight ratio is.
Baronvontrap 1 year ago
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HiImCaysE 1 year ago
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HiImCaysE 1 year ago
@born2makk2007 thats not very nice. My car isn't a shitbox
kylereece22 1 year ago
It's still a Taurus.
MisterPeetBull 1 year ago
@MisterPeetBull You're still ignorant.
HiImCaysE 1 year ago
@HiImCaysE You drive a focus. No matter what you do to it, it is still a ford focus. Live with that.
MisterPeetBull 1 year ago
@MisterPeetBull LOL that was easier than I thought to prove my point.
HiImCaysE 1 year ago
@HiImCaysE Oh god, you can't even accept the fact that you drive a girls car.
MisterPeetBull 1 year ago
@HiImCaysE the man is right ford focus is the gayest vehicle ever produced...and if ur a man and u own a ford focus AND u tricked it out..ur HOMO the fullest extent..so accept the fact dude , you ARE a queer!
born2makk2007 1 year ago
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HiImCaysE 1 year ago
@born2makk2007 and civics
XxlargemanxX 1 year ago
Lol beating a wrx in a SHO.
Those ricers think they own the road, the V8 SHO says otherwise.
You can actually race people to get on the highway or to keep a jerk from getting in front of you with it :D
peepeevagi 1 year ago
lol guys its not the ford SHO thats fast its the yamaha motor thats in it thats fast.
rockstardrinker95 1 year ago
haha the sho is so beast and so many people hate it lol
413murdermass 1 year ago
@413murdermass i for one love the sho! new one,,,,,, not soo much
kevinreid 1 year ago
That was possibly the most obvious statement I've ever heard... But if you're trying to tell me that a shit box N/A 2 liter is pulling anywhere near the horespower, or even has close to the capability of an ej20 or ej25 you clearly don't know shit about anything...
ps. Ford Probes are not fast. hate to tell you
tytanium1111 1 year ago
@tytanium1111 check out eco motors if to want to see an insane engine 2cyl 4 piston turbo opposed piston opp.cylinder 296lbs 1.1hp/lb 664tq! the opposed cylinder design its similar to the legendary ej series' block <<---gotta love those.
kevinreid 1 year ago
That is definetly not a fast wrx... He needs to ditch that crappy td04 and wipe that sho's ass like he should've in the first place
tytanium1111 1 year ago
@tytanium1111 okay dude. turbo cars aren't the only fast cars around. hate to tell you
codyfennern 1 year ago
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@codyfennern That was possibly the most obvious statement I've ever heard... But if you're trying to tell me that a shit box N/A 2 liter is pulling anywhere near the horespower, or even has close to the capability of an ej20 or ej25 you clearly don't know shit about anything...
ps. Ford Probes are not fast. hate to tell you
tytanium1111 1 year ago
i had a 92 sho these are the kings of the road here they go fast can take punishment and look good in the process
clownfreak9000 1 year ago
stock wrx's are damn close to 300. how/why would u make it a lower hp than it started? udk what ur talkin bout
somecooldude777 1 year ago
@somecooldude777 YOU have no idea what you're talking. 02/03 WRX's (in this video) had something around 220hp. Only the newer WRX's have 265HP.
jamesevanhenry 1 year ago
that wrx is no where near 275hp. Both cars are probably stock....
KarlT01 1 year ago
sorry dude the sho will never out perform the WRX and thats only the beggining theres a WRX and WRX STI and WRX STi Spec-C RA-R
spirit407 1 year ago
i love at least SOMETHING from all manufacturers, but it seems in all the supersnake vs.ZR1 vs. Viper discussion the Ford GT was curiously left out of the conversation. Seems to me that would be in closer range. All of us few U.S. auto supporters should be sticking together anymore , not doing the old ford chevy dodge thing. they all have something to bring to the table for the right person. I'm just saying.
davewelds2 1 year ago
@davewelds2 you'd be right but the tard decided since ford doesn't make the GT anymore it couldn't be included. yet he wants to talk about the non street legal viper ACR-x... he's an idiot, and a perfect example of why you should practice safe sex.
svtlincoln 1 year ago
lol this is funny... the sho stock came with 220hp... then the new gen like 98 came with 235hp.. the new one are around 365hp... but i gotta say..a 220hp sho would not stand a chance against a wrx... the older ones yes... but new ones hell no 265hp.. and will hit 0-60in 5 second range.. the sti with 305hp would make a fool out of any sho ( stock that is)
heyybii 1 year ago
ok, the new SHO would kill any subaru made, 0-60 in 5 - 5.5 stock, id say thats an automatic win, seeing its a v6 family car??
starksy17 1 year ago
@starksy17 You know nothing of Subarus then that's what the Subaru SUV can do in the 0-60 run lol. The STi or WRX don't even have to try.
Jeffero77 1 year ago
Clitaurus...had to say it
spankthewan 2 years ago
You sure SHO'd him!!!
rayj778 2 years ago 22
@rayj778 lol that's funny i used that same line earlier.
1993hondaaccord 1 year ago
@1993hondaaccord didn't see your comment buddy.
rayj778 1 year ago
@rayj778 It wasn't on this video.
1993hondaaccord 1 year ago
@1993hondaaccord didn't see it anywhere; so what's your point? you suprised that someone uttered the same genius words that you did??? gtfo man.
rayj778 1 year ago
@rayj778 Nope just find it funny. Thanks for the sarcasm though, it's always amusing when people make themselves look like an ass.
1993hondaaccord 1 year ago
@1993hondaaccord so i guess you like observing yourself a lot then.
rayj778 1 year ago
@rayj778 As much as I would enjoy responding to your 7th grade comeback, I unfortunately have better things to do. Have a nice day though.
1993hondaaccord 1 year ago
@1993hondaaccord yes, get back to incest with your sister.
rayj778 1 year ago
Nice! What was the year of that SHO.? ;-)
quessbee123 2 years ago
It's a 64.
MiyagiDoKarate 2 years ago 2
hahhaahhaha hail the SHO, FCUK ure import homo
machfox1 2 years ago
Mmmm...you just got waxed by a Ford Taurus motherfucker!!! lol I love the look on peoples faces when I beat 'em or hang with 'em in my SHO. Soooo funny.
thasssbruuutal 2 years ago
HAHAHAHHA!
trillakilla 2 years ago
I can say one thing, the GTP has nothing on the SHO.
JayGeePee1 2 years ago 3
SHO=YAMAHA
pishley 2 years ago
its easy to talk shit this video SHOs more than words.
fernysho 2 years ago
OMG OMG OMG, You a r e SO funny.
akirasovan 2 years ago
shos are fast as you can see in this video and this 1 is faster
fernysho 2 years ago
Flip Over Read Directions!
Fucked Over Rebuilt Dodge!
hennesseyttvenom1 2 years ago
see all fords own.. not one effing ford cant beat a cock blowing chevy.... or any rice burner
kisslongtong 2 years ago
i have nothing against fords, i have owned 3 5.0s, but the sho has a yamaha motor in it
IRONSEAN7 2 years ago
buick is made by gm same as chevy. I want to see a SHO beat a cock blowing grand national, or how about a real cock blowing import like a supra or skyline, maybe an nsx? Since I am a dodge guy I will just keep raping blue oval with MOPAR!!!
hennesseyttvenom1 2 years ago
Really? Your gonna beat a ford (FOR ONLY REAL DRIVERS) with a Mopar (MOST OFTEN PASSED AT RACEWAY) I don't think so.
PowerLiftingMenace 2 years ago
Most often passed at a raceway? Are you joking or are you dumb? what holds the record at the ring? (viper acr) naturally aspirated mind you which everything it beat wasn't.(almost nothing ford uses to compete with chevy or dodge is naturally apirated) ( PUSSIES) where does ford hold any recent records? they don't. how is your gt500 going to take a challenger srt-10? it won't. hennessey already makes camaro's and challengers that beat them. and it is fair because the gt500 is supercharged to.
hennesseyttvenom1 2 years ago
ok and let me use the extra 50 grand it would have left over for not buying a hennessey and i'll install myself a bigger and badder supercharger, and then we can talk. That's like comparing apples and oranges. The super charger in the hennesey is alot bigger and alot stronger, so obviously it's gonna make it faster. Lets compare the hennesy next to idk the saleen s302 extreme, then lets see who wins.
itsnotmedj 2 years ago 2
hennesy vipers are twin turbo
damieD19 2 years ago
he has a point
cavycody 2 years ago
but performance for dollar, the ford is definately the winner. gt500 is far cheapers than anything hennessey puts out, and if you want to go for more, you can drop another 10 grand and get a supre snake! its got something like 750 hp.
iamawhore1 2 years ago
ya but, its a mustang.. lol not a viper hahha BIG DIFFERENCE!!
2004blacksrt4 2 years ago
no ur not even close AT ALL the super snake has like 630 hp not 750. get a henessy hpe650 it dominates the supersnake!
prixfan123 2 years ago
@prixfan123 the supersnake has 725hp not 630hp. It might be 630rwhp
spdfrk80 2 years ago
ya, i think 630 rwhp, But it does have 725.. Awsome car!
another awsome car is the 2011 shelby gt 350!! nice ride
starksy17 1 year ago
ford uses supercharged and turbo applications due to the fact they're not sticking big ass motors in everything. don't be jealous. and it's not fair really. since the gt500 is a stock 5.4L supercharged and you're braggin cuz engines that are bigger AND supercharged at hennessey beat them? give me a break.
svtlincoln 2 years ago 2
@svtlincoln
You know whats funny to is how the Chevy Camaro has a big 6.2 liter in it. While the Mustangs have a little 281 4.6 liter in them except for the GT500 . And there thumping the Camaros. Now what would you think if Ford built some 6 liter. They would blow the Camaro out of the water.
Chase389 2 years ago 2
yea the bowtie boys still seem to not be able to figure out how to use anything besides cubic inches. oh well i'll take my 32 valve 4.6 over a chevy motor any day.
svtlincoln 2 years ago 9
@svtlincoln Hey me too man, You know how the camaros suppose to be putting out 426 hp well if you look at some of these dyno runs on youtube the camaros only putting out around 350 hp.
Chase389 2 years ago 2
Well I think it's still Chevy and Dodge building the cars that compete with Ferraris, Lamborghinis and Porches while you all are stuck on trying to outrun the new Camaro, lol.
Jeffero77 1 year ago
@Jeffero77 trying to outrun??? 1st of all my point was to another dumbass saying that ford "had to use boost" and i was simply saying that chevy "has to use cubic inches" now back to this trying to outrun thing, sure if you're talking about the GT,the GT is with .4 in the 1/4 not bad for a car that's down over 80 cubic inches to the camaro. that's ok though the new DOHC 5.0 is due out very soon. But now is now, and the SuperSnake will demolish the camaro. so trying???
svtlincoln 1 year ago
Well if you want to put the best of Ford, the SuperSnake is your candidate right? Against the Dodge Viper or Corvette ZR-1 it won't stand a chance, so considering the top of the line model from each company Ford doesn't really measure up.
Jeffero77 1 year ago
@Jeffero77 The SuperSnake will set you back about 72k, the ACR-X will get ya for about 100k and the ZR-1 103k. Kinda hard to compare the SuperSnake to a car that is over 30k more expensive. The SuperSnake ran a 12.0, the ZR1 in STOCK form, is a 11.5. To me .5 in the 1/4 ain't worth 30k. (both those times are from car and driver) Now as far as the viper goes i'm assuming you're talking about the ACR-X, which is a NON street legal car, and doesn't even belong in that comparison
svtlincoln 1 year ago
gt-1000 and gtx1 bitch
starksy17 1 year ago
Yes trying.
Jeffero77 1 year ago
@Jeffero77 that's not trying you tard. the Super Snake will eat that new camaro, and the FYI a 0-60 time of 5secs isn't what a subaru SUV runs you idiot. the STi is at 4.9 and the standard WRX is a turd.
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@svtlincoln 2004 Subaru Forester 2.5 XT Turbo 0-60 mph 5.2 Quarter mile 13.6 , haha. My brother's friend has an SHO and my bro's WRX can smoke it any day being a mid 12 second car... try again the SHO is nothing special.
Jeffero77 1 year ago
@Jeffero77 Hmm a stock SHO will run a 13.7 STOCK, and where'd you find that 0-60 time? because everything i've read has the 2.5 xt at a 5.9 - 6.4 with the best 1/4 mile being a 13.9 for a manual trans car. How bout u run a stock wrx (not sti) against the SHO and watch that ass get stomped. and the SHO has something no subaru will ever have... class. so please tell me how a stock sti even can run a 5sec 0-60 without even trying, when it's best time is 4.7secs? hmm i smell bullshit.
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@svtlincoln I was referring to a specific model year for that speed but just showing you that it was done, the newer ones do run the late 5 second range. And yes the WRX will still beat a SHO of any year stock for stock. Stupid fanboy.
Jeffero77 1 year ago
@Jeffero77 NO A STOCK WRX NON STI WILL NOT OUTRUN A SHO. the new SHO clocks in with a 13.7 sec 1/4 mile, while the impreza wrx NON STI runs in the low/mid 14's. please tell me how a 13sec 1/4 mile is slower then a 14 sec??
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@svtlincoln Edmunds put the 09 WRX at 5.2 0-60 and a 13.7 1/4 mile, so at least they're near equal if it makes you happy... of course they did this with a smaller boosted engine... wait?!? Did they just beat Ford at their own game?
Jeffero77 1 year ago
@Jeffero77 Nope. The EcoBoost is exactly that. ECO. has less boost than the subby and gets better gas mileage. also makes a shit load more power, 365hp vs 224hp for the wrx.
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@svtlincoln IT'S A Twin-TURBO V6 compared to a single turbo 4 banger!
Jeffero77 1 year ago
@Jeffero77 lets see 2.5 Liter making 230hp, that's 92 horsepower per liter, The SHO is a 3.5 Liter making 365hp, that's 104 horsepower per liter. Let's see more hp per liter, less boost and better gas mileage. hmm.... wait weren't you the one comparing a 6.2 liter to a n/a 4.6? yea you were. oops...
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@svtlincoln Again you show that you know nothing, the reason they run less boost is because they have 2 turbos stuck in that car, and I was talking about SPEED, considering it is the same speed as the SHO they are equal. I'm trying to help you find help by giving you a compromise but on the street the WRX will always win. My brother's car run's mid to low 12s with almost no upgrades sod don't tell me what it can or cannot do. If you want to race family sedans you can race my 300 SRT-8
Jeffero77 1 year ago
@Jeffero77 BLAH BLAH BLAH, and now out of nowhere you have a srt8 go figure. and you are S T U P I D. less boost because they have twin turbos?? um tard, twin turbos are to help with something called turbo lag. and a standard WRX does not run low 12's with basic bolt ons. why do idiots like you say that when a car pulls on the strip it won't do the same on the street? i'll race your srt8 any day chump, my mark viii will whoop that ass. ran a 9.61 in the 1/4 3 days ago. sean hyland DOHC 6.0 :)
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@svtlincoln I could care less... quite honestly I can't beleive i've aruged with you this long. It's like talking to a wall lol. Have fun racing slow cars.
Jeffero77 1 year ago
@svtlincoln The Hennessey Camaro beats the supersnake which is more of a true comparison than the SS.
Jeffero77 1 year ago
@Jeffero77 Not at all. The Hennessey cost over $25,000 more than the Super Snake. Keep diggin deeper maybe one day you'll succeed.
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@svtlincoln So you're saying it's more fair to compare the supersnake which is $84,390 to the $30,000-34,000 Camaro SS? Keep diggin deeper maybe on day you'll succeed.
Jeffero77 1 year ago
@Jeffero77 guess you don't remember you're original statement of "the Camaro will stomp ANY mustang" open mouth insert foot.
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@svtlincoln Well if you want to put up the xtremely tuned and upgraded versions I'm just saying the Camaro will always win, which is easily shown in comparisons.
Jeffero77 1 year ago
@Jeffero77 as it should 6.2 liter vs a 4.6 liter, that's ok we'll talk again once the new stang debuts with the 400hp DOHC 5.0. then we'll see what kinda BS you can come up with. won't be long til chevy axes the camaro again, soon as that government bailout money dries up.
svtlincoln 1 year ago
The Gtx1 and Gt1000 compete with the fucking bugatti, so dont tell me the shit bout fard not competeing on high class stage dumbass, the gt-1000 kills Zr1, look up zr1 vs gt-1000 U will see how "bad" FORD is at competeing against supercars!
starksy17 1 year ago
@svtlincoln naa give me a 5.7 chevy.lol i starting to like ford for some wierd reason
DetroitFitted 1 year ago
@svtlincoln ford didnt figure it out either the best sho engine was produced by Yamaha !
kevinreid 1 year ago
@kevinreid The best SHO engine was just produced for the current generation. MORE horsepower, MORE torque, BETTER fuel economy and is over 1.5 seconds faster in the 1/4 that any previous SHO. Now go ahead and tell me what all you can do to the older ones and what they'll do blah blah blah. Stock vs Stock isn't even a contest.
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@svtlincoln no i wont b/c i dont study the taurus, but point was ford didnt figure it out. and what yamaha did took ford years to build something better. & stock for stock the 20 year old sho holds its own with good tires & set up.
kevinreid 1 year ago
@kevinreid The SHO taurus yamaha was a joint effort, it didn't take ford years to build something better, in late 1992 the 4.6 DOHC V8 made its debut in the 93 model Lincoln Mark VIII. That same engine block design was used all the way from 93-2004, and is now being used in the 2011 mustang GT that's coming with the DOHC 5.0. I'd say this engine was way more successful than any engine Yamaha has ever built..
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@svtlincoln
youre fucking retarded. do you know that the LT5 was? obviously not
kylebucuk 1 year ago
@kylebucuk
Do YOU know? Because Yamaha had nothing to do with it.
turbotoolman 1 year ago
@kylebucuk HAHAHAHA nevermind somebody else done owned your ass. fuckin idiot.
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@svtlincoln fuck you faget chevy motors are soo much more powerful,and more reliable,they'll beat your pussy ass 4.6 pos motor ANYDAY.
rockstardrinker95 1 year ago
@rockstardrinker95 pussy ass 4.6 pos.... hmmmm whatever your say. The entire line of Ford Modular engines has enjoyed success since 1991. not my fault that Government Motors can't seem to get their head around using anything besides fuckin pushrods. Let's see the new 6.2L makes 426HP or 68.7HP per liter, the new DOHC 5.0(it's a modular) makes 412HP or 82.4HP per liter. That's an ass whoopin in anybody's book. Cracked Head Every Valve Rattles Oil Leaks Every Time. Only faggots wear bowties.
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@svtlincoln lol you probably dont even have a ford.
rockstardrinker95 1 year ago
@rockstardrinker95 Yea I don't have any Ford products sittin in my driveway... I just decided to make my username SVTLincoln for the hell of it. are you that fuckin stupid? I do own a Ford and it does have a modular engine. oh and dumb fuck you need to go check out the 2011 GT vs the SS, it handles better, and is faster in the 1/4.
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@svtlincoln lol dude i really dont have time to argue about ford vs chevy ok i think ford is shit,you think chevy is shit big deal,i have a life,unlike you on youtube 24/7
rockstardrinker95 1 year ago
@rockstardrinker95 actually if you'll notice i usually check in once every 3 days or so. It's ok to admit your wrong. tuck tail and run bowtie boy.
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@svtlincoln lol tuck tail and run you ford pussy.
rockstardrinker95 1 year ago
@svtlincoln not really a ford hater personally idsay fuck the imports and quit fighting about wich usa brand is better but that mustang only won due to gearing and weight not motor lighten the chevy by about wut 300 hundred or so or ad a passenger and have same gearing and its prolly neck and neck
bergaflickal 1 year ago
@bergaflickal only won because.... ok you say lighten the camaro blah blah whatever. Don't forget the mustang gives over 60 cubic inches to the camaro, yet still makes damn near as much power. One day GM will join the rest of the world and figure out that maybe there's something to this whole overhead camshaft thing.
svtlincoln 1 year ago 2
@svtlincoln and i hear ya man i like the mustang my self i am a chevy guy but i give a good american car its props the next gen maro is gonna be lighter so then the race will be on.. and the dohc...idk never heard a muscle car having dohc back in the day
bergaflickal 1 year ago
@bergaflickal musclecar's also didn't have fuel injection, computer controlled ignition systems, most were a/c delete, they didn't have power windows, or OnStar. Times change, Gm wants to stick to pushrods then good for them, but until they swap to an OHC design they don't stand a chance. Like I said there's a reason that lil 5.0 makes nearly as much HP as the 6.2, and the new Boss goes even further out powering the camaro with 440hp.
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@svtlincoln ford circled the problem faggot
mikskater33 1 year ago
@mikskater33 This is the 2nd reply to you, anyway i just noticed that you're the same idiot who said ford only new how to use heavy cast iron blocks. Which of course was incorrect. Then you made your other dumbass comment, which was also incorrect. Then you start name callin. You're a lil bitch, nobody likes you. You think you know everything when the reality is you don't know a damn thing, which you've now proven not once.. but TWICE. Cracked Head Every Valve Rattles Oil Leaks Every Time.
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@svtlincoln yea the ford fags also don't know how to use anything besides heavy ass iron blocks
mikskater33 1 year ago
@mikskater33 you sure about that?? 4.6 DOHC debuted in 1993 with an aluminum block and heads. The cobra began using the all aluminum 4.6 DOHC in 96. The new 5.0 DOHC? aluminum. Next time you wanna talk your shit try gettin your facts straight kiddo.
svtlincoln 1 year ago 3
@svtlincoln cool story brah. i just think it's funny that you have to do a shit ton to mustangs to keep up with an ls1 camaro with bolt ons.
have fun with your money pit
mikskater33 1 year ago
@mikskater33 1st I don't own a mustang. 2nd a 4.6 gives up 60 cubic inches to a LS1. 3rd. The new 2011 mustang makes the camaro it's bitch. Let's take a look at hp per liter. The LS1 camaro made 57hp per liter. A DOHC 4.6 makes almost 70hp per liter. That is an ass kicking. It doesn't take tons for a 4.6 to blow the doors off of an LS1. Minor bolt ons and a SOHC 4.6 stang will run 12's with sticky tires. Hell my 4,000lb linc runs a low 14 with nothin but some gears, catback and a tune.
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@svtlincoln
you're a faggot, end of story. just because a car has more horsepower per liter doesn't make it faster. that argument is irrelavent. you have to put a lot more into a 4.6 to even come close to an ls1 with bolt ons. and stop being so full of yourself, you seem like the kind of guy that would beat off to a picture of himself.
anyways, i'm done here. :)
mikskater33 1 year ago
@mikskater33 big man still name callin. Gears, Chip, Stall. and auto equipped stang will beat a stock LS1. The reason hp per liter matters?? it shows that a ford engine is way more capable of making power. Now take take your fuckin pushrods and shove them up your ass, as i'm sure you're used to taking things in the ass. you stupid motherrfuckin kid. you're a dumbass, go fuckin skate in front a fuckin 18 wheeler. your dad should be shot for not wearin a condom.
svtlincoln 1 year ago 6
@svtlincoln oh man you're so e-tough, i'm shaking in my boots. you're the load your mom should've swallowed. and you proved my point right there. you need gears, chip and a stall to beat a STOCK ls1. do the same to the camaro (aka make it even..) and the camaro will take a fat shit on your little buttstain.
mikskater33 1 year ago
@mikskater33 make it even??? the LS1 has a 60 cubin inch advatage you dumb fuck. what don't you fuckin get?? are you that dumb? yea you are. Oh well stock for stock, a DOHC 5.0 fuckin smokes the new camaro. while giving up 1.2 liters in displacement. argue with that shit brains. That was the point of my original comment dumbass. Chevy is throwing c.i.d. and engines and Ford is still whoopin their ass. a DOHC 4.6 stroked to 5.3 will smoke an LS1 all day long and it's still down 30c.i.d.
svtlincoln 1 year ago 3
@svtlincoln If you want an example of an engine, you only need to look at fords "Coyote" engine.
DOHC, Ti-VCT which is a neat feature that allows the intake and exahust valve timing to be independantly controlled, 412hp, 390 lb/ft of torque, naturally aspirated...
And if Ford pumps out a direct injection version, it would stomp on its mainstream, foreign and domestic rivals.
mattmatt115 1 year ago 12
@mattmatt115 Oh I'm very well aware of that technology. Ford continually pumps out engines that liter for liter can't be touched. They were ahead of the curve with the first DOHC 4.6 and are continuing that now. Glad someone else realizes it. :)
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@mattmatt115 The Coyote already has direct injection. They don't have Eco Boost (Ford's Turbo for those who don't know) yet. But yeah, I read a full write up on it and they put a bunch of wish list stuff into it. Awesome engine, too bad it costs $6500 for the crate engine. Then you gotta buy everything else to put on it :(
CarpathianCarl 5 months ago
@CarpathianCarl No, the Coyote does NOT have DI at this time, it is sequential.
lmorrow4 5 months ago
@lmorrow4 Read this article at (mustang50magazine)
You Tube not allowing link, but read the article on the engine as it's fairly exhaustive. Should be the 2nd page.
.com/techarticles/m5lp_1003_2011_ford_mustang_gt_50_coyote_engine/speed_breeding.html
CarpathianCarl 5 months ago
@lmorrow4 "So we wanted to make sure when we did the initial design work that it would be robust enough to not have to re-engineer the whole thing down the road and any subsequent programs would be very investment efficient and time efficient and so we did package DI injectors, we did really improve the bulkhead strength to take supercharging,"
Actual quote from magazine article. DI is nothing new though, as Diesels have been using it for some time.
CarpathianCarl 5 months ago
@CarpathianCarl From Ford.com: Mustang Engine Specifications: Fuel Delivery Sequential Multi-port Electronic Fuel Injection Sequential Multi-port Electronic Fuel Injection Sequential Multi-port Electronic Fuel Injection Sequential Multi-port Electronic Fuel Injection :::scratches head::: Hmmm...no DI listed on Ford.com for 2012 Mustangs of any flavor. The engine was TESTED and CERT'ed for DI, but does not currently come with it.
lmorrow4 5 months ago
@lmorrow4 Just going off a quote from a Ford rep in a popular Mustang magazine. No idea why you're getting sarcastic. Like I said, I posted the actual quote in my previous post, just copy and paste. They talked about using DI, due to the idea of Eco Boost (turbo charging) in the future for the 5.0.
CarpathianCarl 5 months ago
@svtlincoln Jesus fucking christ you guys argue like a bunch of 2 year olds, on mikskater33's side though, man shut up about the "cubic in advantage shit" size doesnt mean anything.
kylemoe07 1 year ago
@kylemoe07 you moron. go back and read it. and come to me when you got your shit straight. Mik was the one supporting the larger GM motors. I was tryin to show his stubborn ass how much more HP per liter a Ford modular engine makes. and how the new 5.0 flat out kills the LS1 despite being smaller.
svtlincoln 1 year ago
@svtlincoln All I got to say is it only took 14 years for DOHC to finally get there. The LSx platform is still amazing, and it took a long time for other V8's to compete against simple old pushrods.
1Kurgan1 7 months ago
@1Kurgan1 WTF are you talking about?? are you that dumb?? When Ford debuted the DOHC 4.6 in 1993 that engine made 280hp off the showroom floor. The 5.7L in the camaro that same year made 275hp. That means from the beginning the DOHC engine of Ford made over 12hp more per liter. When the LS made it's debut in the camaro it was rated at 305hp, that same year the N/A DOHC 4.6 in the Cobra was also rated at 305hp. Same hp despite being down 70 cubic inches. 14 years? get your shit straight liar.
svtlincoln 7 months ago
@svtlincoln I wasn't talking about LT1's moron, learn to read, I said LSx, and I said 14 years (14 years ago is 1997, or are you bad at math as well? And the LS1's in the F-Bodys were rated lower than the LS1's in the Vettes despite the same motor, list the HORRIBLE factory stats all you want, a 98 Fbody will walk a 98 Cobra. Sit down and stfu, learn to read and count next time, and don't bring garbage factory ratings to the table.
1Kurgan1 7 months ago
@svtlincoln And secondly, I could give a flying fuck about hp/liter, you want hp/liter, go buy a fucking Honduh you ricer. Power/Weight ratio is all that matters, and a 98 Cobra vs a 98 Camaro are about the exact same curb weight while the Camaro is a longer and wider car.
1Kurgan1 7 months ago
@1Kurgan1 LMAO wow you really are THAT dumb. HP per liter is a meaure of an engines capabilities and is efficiency. Has nothing to do with rice. Point is no matter what an OHV engine will NEVER be able to do what an OHC engine of the same size will do. NO ifs, ands or buts, it just won't. I listed fact. hp because BOTH the LS1 and 4.6 DOHC were underrated. FYI for a LS1 to make the same hp per liter as a STOCK 4.6 it'd need to make 402hp. What's next you wanna tell me carbs are better that EFI?
svtlincoln 7 months ago
@svtlincoln that's full of typos. but eff it you get the point.
svtlincoln 7 months ago
@svtlincoln What I'm saying is, check the prostock cars, check the cars running at drag week. Almost all of them will be running OHV engines. You can get your panties in as tight of a bind as you like, efficiency is great, but like I said, power to weight is what matters, sure the 4.6L might make close to as much power with less cubes, but what does that matter when the LS1 is a slightly lighter motor, and makes bolt on power much easier. Only decent 4V is a fully built one or a Terminator.
1Kurgan1 5 months ago
@1Kurgan1 This guy does have a point, you see a hell of a lot more chevy engine swaps in non chevy cars than you do ford, FACT.
NancyPelosi1954 5 months ago
@1Kurgan1 Wow guess you really can't fix stupid and you're living proof of that. Just because all the ignorant old ass fuckers are running OHV engines doesn't mean that's the way to go. Most of them are running carbs too.... and compared to EFI a carburetor is a hunk of shit. I have a total of $400 invested in bolt ons on my 4.6 and my car weighs in at a hair under 4200lbs and knocks down 14.3sec 1/4 miles with a 175,000 engine between the fender wells.
svtlincoln 5 months ago
@svtlincoln It's not about OHV, your too stupid to understand that the 4.6 is a heavy motor. It may make more with it's cubes, but it weighs more and for it's weight the LSx can make more power, and easier. Like Nancy below said, look how many LSx swaps are out there, not many 4.6L swaps. be stuck on whatever stupid idea you got with your slow ass car, I could probably knock a 14.3 out with my GTX with the supercharger pulley off with a V6 OHV lol.
1Kurgan1 5 months ago
@1Kurgan1 LMFAO!!! You wait a month and all you can come back with is "it's heavier" The LS1 is 24lbs lighter. That's it... a whole 24lbs. You think you can run a 14.3 without your supercharger? 1st i'd bet my fuckin house on that. i watched ur vid, 25-70 took you just over 5secs, my vid 25-70 takes my heavy ass car just over 5secs. AND you have boost with over a 500lb curb weight advantage. Should've know u were a GTP owner, you're all fuckin idiots.
svtlincoln 5 months ago
@svtlincoln 24lb is all that matters, if it makes more power and weighs less than why the hell do cubes matter? And it was a joke, but people have ran 14's NA on 3800's. And your 25-70 took over 6 seconds. And funny thing is, I've owned a 4.6L DOHC as well, just sold my 96 continental with 240k on it, and I've owned 4 SHO's, and a Grand Marquis. I like your cubes argument, shit gets shot down, heavy ass motor, start your retard flail of excuses. Weights matters, you're dumb, end of story.
1Kurgan1 5 months ago