So you get Lifesteal from item + 6% of Quit + 3% of Masteries.
= a lot early game life steal wich hold the possible"fail" crit you needed.
When you think he is a bit slow, thats a lie.
His E skill makes him move faster than any chamion since he can cross walls and get nice distance, only jungles with similar would be Shaco ambush, still... CD is higer.
And once you get Berserker Greaves and go for Phantom Blades.... You start to be the fastest jungler in game -.-.... With the insane bonus atk speed + 30% crit change that gets up to 70% with rage bar full...thing that you wont need to get down untill ganks...
You may think what I am saying is stupid, but proof is me getting lvl 12 - worse case 11 -when mid and top solo are lvl 10....
RED n°1! Ask team to get Lizard HP almost down so you kill him and after that all team go to golem, leave lizard minions behind and all team atks golems, so you can kill both, and go back to both lizard minions.do that and you dont even use smite
Why dont use smite?so you can gank with W skill at lvl 2 without E :P
Why would it work? WHODAFK would think trynda would jungle with Ghost> TO hunt not run And flash?
@McPitbull13 So... what junglers can get 2 levels ahed from Solo laners? Even 1 leve plus is amazing if you dont gank....
And the cri change probability is enough when you get the insane lifesteal and crit damg bonus... since you wont use cash on stupid HP potions... and already get LifeSteal for future BloodThirst :D
And extra: I went pentakill many games with Tryndamere Jungler ^^
who do a lot of ppl cast smite, only as the golem is about to die, that way you can make an overkill, am i right or what? i just cast it before doing my atoattack or skills.
I know he has to and WILL steal aka farm sidelanes and can't properly early do as much stuff as better junglers. . . But HE'S TRYNDAMERE FOR GODS SAKE! He snowballs like crazy and will singlehandedly carry if you go to lategame. And his ganks are not too bad as his damage is high. And HE SHOUTS SOMETHING LIKE FUSROD-- never mind. He's not as vunerable as olaf in jungle and snowballs better than xin (IMHO). Any other reason than the fact that he somewhat relies on RNG?
@stonewall008 Considering that the only thing Blue is affecting is his spin (from what you're using?) wouldn't Tryndamere make better use of the Red path? Or did you prefer Blue to level him up and use Red to gank?
@GreenFestival You can still get bladed armor while getting the crit masteries. Just don't get any of the CDR from the offense. You are only missing out on the 4% CDR which isnt really much for Tryndamere since you do buff his crit chance and crit damage which is better in the long run.
I'm sure stonewall has good reasons for it and everything but I'm confused by the skipping of crit stuff in masteries. Does he build trynd without crit later in the game or something?
@kori84527486 yes, so is it not way better to put points in Crit chance and Crit damage, instead of the relatively useless Havoc and Tower damage masteries?
I see no reason not to start with red with tryn, (and level 2 gank) Blue is of essentially no value to him IMO, better to secure a red buff (preferably the enemy's).
The biggest mistake I see junglers consistently making is to undervalue red buff and overvalue blue.
What I have been doing is invade - steal red - level 2 gank - then take the small camps on the way to my own red. You will likely get into a fight with the enemy jungler here, which is easy to anticipate and get help for.
@alinktothepast The Line/Arrow is called "Line Missile Display" to turn it off you have to go under your game settings in game, under click on "More Options" and uncheck "Line Missile Display"
Hey stonewall, the reflect damage has a bug that when you recive a crit the damage returned also counts as a crit, this can reduce the CD of E on tryndamere.
Update: Tried Udyr with boots and pots and worked wonders. Tried noc and lee sin also but at the end I didn't have as much hp as with udyr. So it's viable on some champs.
Do you think it is possible to jungle with shoes and pots as starting items especially if you have some sustain. Because now with new respawns and stuff failing a gank is very bad. Having boots ensure you can do well,
The crit masteries can be taken since he won't be reliant on crit to clear the jungle. Also, doran's blade can be taken to increase the speed and maintain roughly the same survivability..
Hey Stonewall, arn't the crit strike chance and crit strike damage masteries probably better that the 3% life steal and some of either Havoc or Butcher? It seemed like you never got dangerously low for the 3% life steal to matter against the 12 from the vamp scepter, and then you have a lot more damage for the late game as him with more painful crits. Sure he won't be as sustainable early on, but it doesn't look like it would be that dangerous in the new jungle.
this is pretty pointless to jungle with no team... For most junglers having a leash is extremely important and even for trynd i feel getting red early wouldnt be a bad idea.
@theCoDGoDTEDDY wait..what? Of course it's pointless to jungle with no team - if you aren't making a path video after a big change to the jungle that could have effects on how certain junglers work and lower times required to jungle and change the need for sustainability and overall just show thousands of subscribers and viewers - get it?
I have no idea how you missed all that. If you're upset about no leash...fine. But just subtract like 10 seconds.. Not that hard to understand.
@DzikiNapierdalaczCS Q gives more AD the lower the your health is, so using the heal reduces your jungle speed and can cause you to die to creeps if you use it too early actually. Also when your fury is at max, you get that bonus crit chance from passive. So not using heal means full use of passive + bonus AD.
@lealmatthew cloth armor and pots is still viable mostly on tanky junglers who would like to rush aegis of the legion. Besides the pots provide health to survive being counter'd early on and wards are always helpfull.
I can imagine going rammus, cloth armor, 2 wards and a health pot (or 1 ward and 3 health), and then building into an aegis after boots.
Actually Tryndamere is a pretty nice jungler.
And it is better to go:
Runes: ALL crit damage
Quit: Lifesteal
So you get Lifesteal from item + 6% of Quit + 3% of Masteries.
= a lot early game life steal wich hold the possible"fail" crit you needed.
When you think he is a bit slow, thats a lie.
His E skill makes him move faster than any chamion since he can cross walls and get nice distance, only jungles with similar would be Shaco ambush, still... CD is higer.
McPitbull13 2 days ago
@McPitbull13
And once you get Berserker Greaves and go for Phantom Blades.... You start to be the fastest jungler in game -.-.... With the insane bonus atk speed + 30% crit change that gets up to 70% with rage bar full...thing that you wont need to get down untill ganks...
You may think what I am saying is stupid, but proof is me getting lvl 12 - worse case 11 -when mid and top solo are lvl 10....
(without gank)
McPitbull13 2 days ago
@McPitbull13
And suprise route =D
RED n°1! Ask team to get Lizard HP almost down so you kill him and after that all team go to golem, leave lizard minions behind and all team atks golems, so you can kill both, and go back to both lizard minions.do that and you dont even use smite
Why dont use smite?so you can gank with W skill at lvl 2 without E :P
Why would it work? WHODAFK would think trynda would jungle with Ghost> TO hunt not run And flash?
If you wnt 2 se yourself
Zadarkus EU West
McPitbull13 2 days ago
@McPitbull13
lol , read the comments bot to top.... the Reply makes old go bot.... so you read in correct order =)
McPitbull13 2 days ago
@McPitbull13 So... what junglers can get 2 levels ahed from Solo laners? Even 1 leve plus is amazing if you dont gank....
And the cri change probability is enough when you get the insane lifesteal and crit damg bonus... since you wont use cash on stupid HP potions... and already get LifeSteal for future BloodThirst :D
And extra: I went pentakill many games with Tryndamere Jungler ^^
McPitbull13 2 days ago
Why blue route?
specthanatos 2 days ago
@1upParrot in case u didnt notice, stonewall replied to my comment + it happened 3 weeks ago :|
make4you10 1 week ago
How would you feel about the Wraiths -> Red route for Tryndamere? Is it worst going aggressive on him?
SeedyChol 1 week ago
could you do a team battle tryn?
qsuzukip 2 weeks ago
is crit damage runes in replace of atk speed viable for jungle trynd?
BSonnemaker 2 weeks ago
@BSonnemaker why would you want to rely on ur crit chance when you can have stable jungling :|
OkamiSojirou 5 days ago
@stonewall008 Shouldn't this time be an approximation due to random crits? Just being a smart allick.
somanyyoucantcount 3 weeks ago
With the nerf of rage duration, is better now to heal at 1:00?
ForsakenTech 3 weeks ago
stone wall where u play Na or eu?
Seppiroth32 4 weeks ago
king trybdamere op
Seppiroth32 1 month ago
isn't it better to have the 10% more crit damage on the offense mastery? trynd tends to crit a lot
dannyjoe95 1 month ago
@stonewall008 yea, i didnt :(
make4you10 1 month ago
i dont get it, why would you level Q first if you dont use it , and not level E ? at least you deal some more damage to wolves and blue
make4you10 1 month ago
@make4you10 You haven't read his Q have you.
stonewall008 1 month ago 39
@make4you10 Lol dude, his q gives him tons of bonus attack damage
1upParrot 1 week ago
who do a lot of ppl cast smite, only as the golem is about to die, that way you can make an overkill, am i right or what? i just cast it before doing my atoattack or skills.
vaajpiens 1 month ago
@vaajpiens then they can steal it from you since you already burned smite. Smite is best used for securing kills.
stonewall008 1 month ago 5
Does this still work after his fury bar degenerate time nerf?
Jefferyxu45 1 month ago
have tried both jungle patterns and i think crit chance-ar pen works best
it gives faster jungle times
but it is more reliant on luck
DARTHSIDILOUS 1 month ago in playlist League of Legends - Season 2 Jungle
Y U PUT TRYND IN TIER2?
I know he has to and WILL steal aka farm sidelanes and can't properly early do as much stuff as better junglers. . . But HE'S TRYNDAMERE FOR GODS SAKE! He snowballs like crazy and will singlehandedly carry if you go to lategame. And his ganks are not too bad as his damage is high. And HE SHOUTS SOMETHING LIKE FUSROD-- never mind. He's not as vunerable as olaf in jungle and snowballs better than xin (IMHO). Any other reason than the fact that he somewhat relies on RNG?
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@stonewall008 Considering that the only thing Blue is affecting is his spin (from what you're using?) wouldn't Tryndamere make better use of the Red path? Or did you prefer Blue to level him up and use Red to gank?
DarkEssence13 2 months ago
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DarkEssence13 2 months ago
That mastery screenshot is wrong anyway, it says he has 0 points in the smite mastery while he still gets the +10g when he uses it.
SeventhRepublic 2 months ago
@SeventhRepublic if you look at the filename for the mastery pic it looks like he accidentally posted his shyvanna mysteries.
AdumbroDeus 1 month ago
@AdumbroDeus He probably uses the same masteries for both champions.
Grogrog 3 weeks ago
I've seen someone Trynd jungle with spin first.
DneBays 2 months ago
He passed on the Crit masteries so he could get to Bladed Armor
GreenFestival 2 months ago
@GreenFestival You can still get bladed armor while getting the crit masteries. Just don't get any of the CDR from the offense. You are only missing out on the 4% CDR which isnt really much for Tryndamere since you do buff his crit chance and crit damage which is better in the long run.
BadGuy45 1 month ago
Him and Noc are my 2 favorite junglers<3
LoveableGoron 2 months ago
"manly man chinese are too op" i love ur tags stonewall :L
smurfobviously 2 months ago
i was wondering stonewall isnt a full ad rune page wth arpen reds better?
hekkslayer 2 months ago
@hekkslayer for lane trynd maybe
Icecubebac 2 months ago
Hey just wandering, is this music off runescape, it sounds familiar
DxLight916 2 months ago
@DxLight916 lolollol ... Why does nobody read the description??? Really >_>
MrWithoutspaces 2 months ago
I'm sure stonewall has good reasons for it and everything but I'm confused by the skipping of crit stuff in masteries. Does he build trynd without crit later in the game or something?
milkopilko 2 months ago
why no crit% and crit dmg masteries?
lauq1 2 months ago
@lauq1
You might die starting with lifesteal if you don't crit.
kori84527486 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@kori84527486 yes, so is it not way better to put points in Crit chance and Crit damage, instead of the relatively useless Havoc and Tower damage masteries?
lauq1 2 months ago
/watch?v=avVXoBMnVqM
TheWolfCinema 3 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Hey stonewall.Can nocturnes jungle runes work for trynd as well?
jjg1032 3 months ago
@jjg1032 AS + armor + armor pen? Definitely.
Nowzies 2 months ago
I see no reason not to start with red with tryn, (and level 2 gank) Blue is of essentially no value to him IMO, better to secure a red buff (preferably the enemy's).
The biggest mistake I see junglers consistently making is to undervalue red buff and overvalue blue.
What I have been doing is invade - steal red - level 2 gank - then take the small camps on the way to my own red. You will likely get into a fight with the enemy jungler here, which is easy to anticipate and get help for.
DreamMorpheus42 3 months ago
@DreamMorpheus42 He is doing the same route on every jungler now, just to compare their speed.
robcio150 3 months ago
how do you get it so, instead of the line you have to pull out to use the spin, you get that circle
is that smart casting it?i really hate using that arrow, line thing....
alinktothepast 3 months ago
@alinktothepast The Line/Arrow is called "Line Missile Display" to turn it off you have to go under your game settings in game, under click on "More Options" and uncheck "Line Missile Display"
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JacobAlanKuhns 3 months ago
PRESS Q FOR GOD SAKE
SiiimonAndersen 3 months ago
@SiiimonAndersen YES PLEASE JUNGLE MORE SLOWLY STONEWALL
Syvarris34 3 months ago 18
@Syvarris34 you no fun
SiiimonAndersen 3 months ago
@Syvarris34 siiimon is such a troll
myweeknessislogic 3 months ago
@SiiimonAndersen he doesn't use it because the more fury he has the more AD he has which results in a faster jungle time :P
JacobAlanKuhns 3 months ago
@JacobAlanKuhns moron more rage = more crit now its lover health then more ad
cryer3160 3 months ago
@cryer3160 lol i was just trying to help no need for the insult and either way my point is still valid.
JacobAlanKuhns 3 months ago
@cryer3160 your average LoL player, raging and insulting for no reason at all
punnytje 3 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@SiiimonAndersen Why? If you press q you loose all your critical strike chance.
RstandsforRated 3 months ago
@RstandsforRated you jelly :(
SiiimonAndersen 3 months ago
@SiiimonAndersen fail.
MrWithoutspaces 2 months ago
@MrWithoutspaces ok
SiiimonAndersen 2 months ago
Hey stonewall, the reflect damage has a bug that when you recive a crit the damage returned also counts as a crit, this can reduce the CD of E on tryndamere.
guiantonio7 3 months ago
Volibear Dreamwork!
/watch?v=2aRhFqGeu4M
LuXandVoli 3 months ago
tryn with ap in his hand and much older =.=
teriafun 3 months ago in playlist More videos from stonewall008
damn thats fast jungle. heh.
zappzoe 3 months ago
Update: Tried Udyr with boots and pots and worked wonders. Tried noc and lee sin also but at the end I didn't have as much hp as with udyr. So it's viable on some champs.
Methuss87 3 months ago
Do you think it is possible to jungle with shoes and pots as starting items especially if you have some sustain. Because now with new respawns and stuff failing a gank is very bad. Having boots ensure you can do well,
Methuss87 3 months ago
The crit masteries can be taken since he won't be reliant on crit to clear the jungle. Also, doran's blade can be taken to increase the speed and maintain roughly the same survivability..
martango365 3 months ago
Y U NO crit mastery?
Einstreit 3 months ago
Hey Stonewall, arn't the crit strike chance and crit strike damage masteries probably better that the 3% life steal and some of either Havoc or Butcher? It seemed like you never got dangerously low for the 3% life steal to matter against the 12 from the vamp scepter, and then you have a lot more damage for the late game as him with more painful crits. Sure he won't be as sustainable early on, but it doesn't look like it would be that dangerous in the new jungle.
SonicBlast36 3 months ago 3
@SonicBlast36 Less critluck
PivotOpera 3 months ago
@SonicBlast36 you would probably low enough for it to matter if you didn't take attack speed blue.
greenpaintingtable 2 months ago
I don't know if it's me, but jungling seems WAYYYYYY to easy to clear. TO CLEAR !
Th3MoTo 3 months ago in playlist More videos from stonewall008
Tr-undle
WorldEndsWithPi 3 months ago
this is pretty pointless to jungle with no team... For most junglers having a leash is extremely important and even for trynd i feel getting red early wouldnt be a bad idea.
theCoDGoDTEDDY 3 months ago
@theCoDGoDTEDDY its not a set in stone guide obviously things might change
jattaj7 3 months ago
@theCoDGoDTEDDY you dont understand the concept of these videos do you? cause ur comment is pointless. :O
orobully101 3 months ago
@theCoDGoDTEDDY wait..what? Of course it's pointless to jungle with no team - if you aren't making a path video after a big change to the jungle that could have effects on how certain junglers work and lower times required to jungle and change the need for sustainability and overall just show thousands of subscribers and viewers - get it?
I have no idea how you missed all that. If you're upset about no leash...fine. But just subtract like 10 seconds.. Not that hard to understand.
L3Monarque 3 months ago
Wut wut wut.
aminochoas 3 months ago
trynda pretty ownage as jungler now that creeps are ez
NOLIMIT3O5 3 months ago
Why did u pick Q first, if u didnt use heal any time?
DzikiNapierdalaczCS 3 months ago
@DzikiNapierdalaczCS bonus AD
Monstufpud 3 months ago
@DzikiNapierdalaczCS The passive gives him AD for missing health.
KonnerDean 3 months ago
@DzikiNapierdalaczCS because it increases hes AD the % of hp he has
NOLIMIT3O5 3 months ago
@DzikiNapierdalaczCS this.
xdetox22x 3 months ago
@DzikiNapierdalaczCS damage boost.
Yuizele 3 months ago
@DzikiNapierdalaczCS gives more AD
MrDrugnut 3 months ago
@DzikiNapierdalaczCS I think it might give more AD
Longtimer49 3 months ago
@DzikiNapierdalaczCS not sure though
Longtimer49 3 months ago
@DzikiNapierdalaczCS Q gives more AD the lower the your health is, so using the heal reduces your jungle speed and can cause you to die to creeps if you use it too early actually. Also when your fury is at max, you get that bonus crit chance from passive. So not using heal means full use of passive + bonus AD.
clonestar 3 months ago
@clonestar
okey, i forgot about ad bonus
DzikiNapierdalaczCS 3 months ago
Stonewalls view of tryns Q "its for pussys"
MegaRellik 3 months ago
@MegaRellik real men stay below 10% health at all times. Real men play Olaf and Tryndamere
russmanYT 3 months ago in playlist More videos from stonewall008
regrowth->philo stone isn't a bad start for something other than vamp scepter
wolfhunt123 3 months ago
@wolfhunt123 Tryn doesn't have mana o.O. Unless you're just talking about all junglers in general.
vgfanatic2 3 months ago
@vgfanatic2 the mana is only 8, and 18 hp/5, but I was referring to jungler that do not benefit or need the lifesteal of vamp scepters.
wolfhunt123 3 months ago
JUNGLE EVE!
Cropinky 3 months ago
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@stonewall008 so cloth armour+ 5 hp pots is dead for melee dps?
seerolus 3 months ago in playlist Weitere Videos von stonewall008
@stonewall so cloth armour+ 5 hp pots is dead for melee dps?
seerolus 3 months ago in playlist Weitere Videos von stonewall008
@seerolus just isnt needed anymore, most melee can start vamp scepter or boots/pots now
russmanYT 3 months ago in playlist More videos from stonewall008
gotta love the tags....
roxxtay 3 months ago
Would you spec into Crit Damage for jungle tryn?
Machimachina 3 months ago
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woobhead 3 months ago
@Machimachina its not neccesary
woobhead 3 months ago
The music goddamnit! Fus ro dah!
FailedSnail 3 months ago
it really is not worthy to go jugnle.u can farm a lot better at lane with other masteries n crit runes.
tokojojiji 3 months ago
@tokojojiji are you a complete idiot??
woobhead 3 months ago
@woobhead I DONT KNOW AM I?explain why I am a COMPLETE idiot.
tokojojiji 3 months ago
@tokojojiji u get more xp if you are in jungle instead of duo lane
woobhead 3 months ago
@stonewall008 Yo, now since jungle camps heal you, is EVELYNN any bit viable now? Jungle eve had serious hp and risk issues...
hiddenrune 3 months ago
So the same runes that put you within a hit from death makes you finish the jungle with 3 bars of health
motherofgod.jpg
TheHughBliss 3 months ago in playlist More videos from stonewall008
Hey woobhead!
- what
FUS RO nah,,,, thats a bad joke
0rjanp3d3rsen 3 months ago 62
@0rjanp3d3rsen i dont get all these jokes
Schinkentierx3 3 months ago
@Schinkentierx3 play skyrim, it's a good game:)
felk4321 3 months ago
@felk4321 i did main quest yet but still dont xD
Schinkentierx3 3 months ago
Hey tryndamere!
-What
FUS RO nah who am i kidding lets just morph and eat'em
woobhead 3 months ago 54
@woobhead what is FUS RO?
lorenzzo1995 3 months ago
@lorenzzo1995 the dragon shout form in Skyrim ... ^^
Zockerthomas 3 months ago
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@lorenzzo1995 u say FUS RO DAH in skyrim when you use your shout, so i thought it was kinda nifty saying
Hey tryndamere!
-What
FUS RO nah who am i kidding lets just morph and eat'em
woobhead 3 months ago
@lorenzzo1995 It's the first two parts of a shout in Skyrim, a shout being a type of ability. The entire thing is Fus Ro Da, hence "Fus Ro Nah".
LOOKOUTSSIFY 3 months ago
@LOOKOUTSSIFY Actually it's supposed to be as if he'll shout at trynda but gives up at the last moment
RedRamDRA 3 months ago
do u ever go for wraiths after the last golems?
TheDiizzii 3 months ago
is it just to wait or can I request a riven S2 jungle video?
MRsamulito 3 months ago 2
Is there any other good option for champions who won't upgrade vamp scepter later?
lealmatthew 3 months ago
@lealmatthew boots + 3 pots :P
Y0G0FU 3 months ago
@lealmatthew like rammus ? Maybe a ruby crystal ! lol
Marukittens 3 months ago
@lealmatthew cloth armor and pots is still viable mostly on tanky junglers who would like to rush aegis of the legion. Besides the pots provide health to survive being counter'd early on and wards are always helpfull.
I can imagine going rammus, cloth armor, 2 wards and a health pot (or 1 ward and 3 health), and then building into an aegis after boots.
pablopablo221 3 months ago
I'm gonna try if Dorans Blade is legit on some of these champions
WarLordSteel 3 months ago
kim7431 won because he said 1st correct
woobhead 3 months ago
Are level 2 ganks worth it anymore or should you just continue farming?
ZabrioShugotenshi 3 months ago
7th!
BuZZLeR24 3 months ago
so cloth 5 health pots is dead?
seerolus 3 months ago
@seerolus horsepenis=death
Amatenosu 3 months ago
@seerolus vampiric scepter was always better ;3
Marukittens 3 months ago
stonewall do u still enjoy jungling?
TheDiizzii 3 months ago
number war
MrAbe345 3 months ago 3
why do we do this?
TheElric1996 3 months ago
3rd
TheElric1996 3 months ago
1st
kim7431 3 months ago
2st
hitchen1 3 months ago
1rd
caduceusguru 3 months ago