I'm currently stationed in Germany with the Army, gearing up for deployment. I happen to think the video is humorous, and let's be honest... we ALL know recruiters are crooked lmao. I'd also like to point out that we fight for our country's freedom of speech so love the video or hate it, I'd give my last breath to make sure nobody ever took away his/her right to post it.
personaly ur pissing me off we risk our ass in Iraq n Afg so some idiot like u to make stupid shit like this deverdad q te digo fuck u damn ignorant ppl like u bring the negative the agriesive puertorican side in me u dick I have seen some many of my friends fall have some respect Im a Marine oorah til the day I die Im here to protect my6 country n brothers n sisters in arms u dick fuck the pol they meen nothing to me but my country does
@fallingrocks everything ppl know what they r getting them selfs into when they join this vid to me makes soldiers seem like they r stupid to get them self in harms way yes its dangerus every 1 knows that they dont put an M4 or M16 in ur head to join u dont want to know whats like to see ur friends die n every thing u do to save them doesnt work I didnt mean to offend in case I did but this vid wrong its goes against every thing we stand 4
@DarkAngel7884, there have actually been some hidden camera exposes that show that recruiters have been lying to prospects about where they will be placed. And the commercials that this parodies certainly show nothing of the carnage you will be involved in. Certainly, seeing your buddies die is not part of the recruitment process. The average age of a soldier in the U.S. is 19. We don't think you can handle your alcohol, but you can choose to fight and die for us.
@fallingrocks I dont care If my country sends me to a Hell hole like Iraq again or Afg 4 the 1 time ill follow orders n keep my buds n my self alive u making exc. n were u r placed depends on what u want n ur asvab scores get over it n yes im young im 27 n some of my brothers n sisters in arms r even yunger bu they choose this on their own n yes if I die I die 4 my fa, my puertorican n american flag, my country n the corps oorha Im not afraid to die
@DarkAngel7884 Maybe you should have finished school before joining the marines, your comprehension of basic grammar, spelling and the English language in general has made my brain hurt.
Wait, isn't Obama the one attacking Libya? Don't blame this shit on the repubs, it's just life. We are lower, they are higher...it's not about political beliefs, it's always been the class system.
I get the video, and it's funny. I do hope since making this you've given thought to the "right-wing agenda" part of it. The political party doesn't matter. You have to be rational in ALL judgments, not just of the party that you like better at the moment.
@dudeofopinion Dude, your right, the political party doesn't matter, but it is a right-wing agenda. Anything that intentionally serves the concentration of wealth, is a right-wing agenda. As Gore Vidal said: "There is only one party in the United States, the Property Party...and it has two right wings: Republican and Democrat."
I think more politically correct forms of disclaimers like these should be put out there today, considering the flood of douche bag applicants as a result of the recent recession.
@HimesInu ? Sorry but I don't know to what you are referring here; I haven't posted at this site in three months and I don't find a post addressed to you. That said, my vision isn't too good, LOL.
It's interesting that you say, "the war in Iraq and Afghanistan," which implies -- quite correctly, in my opinion -- that it's really all part of one scheme. As is the attack on Libya, btw.
@KaptKan1 This video is specifically talking about the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. And it mere;y implies that the person or persons behind this video are a) anti-war or b) just against the war in Iraq and Afghanistan and not war in general. But either way, this person or persons is a Democrat.
As for the "scheme," I wouldn't know much about that, I do as I'm told as long as it's lawful.
Also, this wasn't addressed to me, but I was merely stating a reason why the Gulf war was overlooked.
@HimesInu Okay, got it. I don't care about "Democrats" or "Republicans"; there are only two honest men in Congress now, Ron Paul (R?) and Dennis Kucinich (D?).
Me, I'm opposed to all the imperial wars, all of which are against the US Constitution. That said, I don't give a damn about what is "lawful" or not; everything the Nazis and the Soviets ever did was "lawful". The only laws I recognise are God's laws and He for sure does not endorse this murder and mayhem.
@shutyourdangpiehole if you are in the military, they can put you where ever they want to put you, there is no, "i didn't sign up to go to Iraq." it's go, or go to jail. don't bother trying to say I'm wrong, cause I didn't vaulunteer to go to Iraq, and my wife didn't either to go to afghanistan.
@gunny0321 You sign up knowing you may be sent into war zones. You sign up knowing you may have to fight unpopular war or go to places you don't want to. Why did you and your wife enlist if you didn't volunteer to go to places others don't want to go?
There's always one asshole in every crowd. Try serving your country, Moron, and maybe you too can know what it's like to feel the pride of patriotism.
@NavyMedicUSMC Here's what some Americans say: “Governments constantly choose between telling lies and fighting wars, with the end result always being the same. One will always lead to the other.” – Thomas Jefferson
"I am an anti-imperialist. I am opposed to having the eagle put its talons on any other land." ~ Mark Twain
“Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear.” ~ Gen. Douglas MacArthur
Lol Yeah I would have never joined if they did. Those of you who don't like this video have either never been in the military or believe the bullshit you are fed. Those of us who have served and been deployed know the truth. America's sons and daughters shouldn't have to fight for no reason just to make those in power richer. The only reason we went to Iraq was for the oil but gas prices keep going higher and higher even after the "war" is over. "Weapons of mass destruction", yeah! OpenYourEyes!
Yeah, fuck the military. These recruiters prey on kids for a good reason; they're not hornery enough to sort out the bullshit yet. Yes, I have served.
@olisquercio Good advice; they've almost all got venereal diseases anyway, especially AIDS which is to be expected in their "don't ask - don't tell" military.
ght terrorism better than we are today. That's because he wasn't a pussy like us. But we've struck the beehive, now the "terrorists" are loose, the only way to control them, is to control the masses, and prevent them from recruiting new members, which is rule the country just like Saddam did. That's the only way we're going to fix Iraq. In Afghanistan we've got to nuke the fucker's until they give up Osama, and Al Queda and the Taliban surrenders.
Saddam became a real threat to all those countries, when he invaded Kuwait (with the weapons we gave him to fight Iran by the way) but of course we intervened, and sort of did the job. The job that they should be doing for themselves.
"Russia did, China may not have but that's because terrorists weren't a threat to them. They are, and were to us"
If Russia honestly cared about Saddam, they would've done something like dethrone his ass a long time ago. What's even more fucked up is, Saddam fou
"That's because the middle Eastern countries couldn't"
If they fought together and formed a coalition they could have (in other words if they gave a shit, which they didn't because middle eastern culture is and has been submissive, and don't value human rights like our culture). Pakistan alone could do the job seeings how they had nukes. You've also got Isreal, and not to mention Saudi Arabia also has a decent army and don't forget, Iran as well.
Personally I liked the video but unlike some people here, I have a sense of humour! Keep it up and don't take life so seriously guys, nobody ever gets out alive!
I hate anti-military fags. They should ask 'the beloved leader' in North Fucking Korea to help them. Oh and by the way, it's okay to move out of your mom's basement and quit playing with your air-guitar while wearing a Elvis presley costume.
what we're trying to do and fucks us financially, is pointless to begin with, or send every single country around the world the message that if you fuck with us, the apocalypse is eminent.
regardless of the reasons that politicians say we are at war for, we soldiers know why we're there. No one is forced to enlist, it's a volunteer army. Yeah, war sucks, people dying sucks, but ultimately every single one of us chose to fight for what we believe in. Do we want to go home? Of course, but we know what our duty is and it's ridiculous for everyone back home to bash what we do and why we do it...
on wars without an end, or we may very well end up like a third world country, and there isn't any sense fighting these pointless wars which are only going to cost more lives than if we used nuclear weapons.
"We lose the favor of ALL our allies"
Most of Europe already hates America, who cares. But about the time the terrorists stop fucking with us and start fucking with one of them, then maybe that country would understand why we would be that drastic.
Also if a christian abortion clinic did that shit to Russia, and our government did nothing to help find the perpetrators, we'd be just a guilty as the Taliban and Al Quada you can bet your ass they'd threaten to blow us up if we did nothing, and helped them.
@Depravedmaniac666 Okay, my point is nuking them will not end well for us. We nuke them, we lose the favor of ALL of our allies. There are too many civies we would kill. Nukes are a deterrent, not a solution. I agree we should be doing shock and awe, but AGAIN, we don't know who the enemy is. We can't just go kill 100,000 civies so we could kill 1,000 terrorists, it just doesn't work like that.
@Depravedmaniac666 Iraq is helping us with the terrorist problem smart one. That being said, they wouldn't blow us up. It would only end badly for them. They would mess us up, but they would be left in the same state as us. It's like China, if we went to war, they would mess us up. Period. However, it would be just as bad for them. Same thing here.
@m1ndfr34k117 "My point is nuking them will not end well for us"
Worked pretty well with Japan, now they're are allies and one of the richest most successful countries in the world.
"There are too many civies we would kill"
Civies are joining the terrorists because we are making their lives even more miserable and they don't want our way of life. The only solution is to strike fear and realization to everyone who wants to fuck with us we've also got to stop wasting so much money,
@Depravedmaniac666 That was back when we were the only ones with deployable nukes. Now, just about every powerhouse country has them. If Germany had them back then, as soon as we bombed Japan to "strike fear" in them, we would have been bombed back. We can't kill countless civilians because some are joining. That's like a country wanting to kill you just because you live here, not because your in the military or any kind of threat.
@m1ndfr34k117 "If Germany had them back then, as soon as we bombed Japan to "strike fear" in them"
That's because Germany was our enemy.
"We can't kill countless civilians because some are joining."
The fact is we are already killing countless civilians, and they're getting pissed off and looking at us as a tyrannical government, and we're forcing our way of life on them. It's not going to work. We've got two choices, one be just as bad as Saddam and the Taliban was, which goes against
@Depravedmaniac666 "That's because Germany was our enemy." True, but N. Korea and other middle eastern countries (plus the possibility of China and Russia) would gladly nuke us and have justifiable reason to if we nuked a country because of radical groups. It's not the countries agenda to fight us, it's the people who reside in that country. You can't put a landlord in jail because someone in the house he owns commits a crime.
The fact is, we aren't killing "countless" civilians...
"True, but N. Korea and other middle eastern countries (plus the possibility of China and Russia)" would gladly nuke us and have justifiable reason to if we nuked a country"
None of the middle eastern countries gave a shit when Saddam would murder large parts of his population, using excessive force or "weapons of terror" nor did Russia, China, Pakistan etc.. China would never want to nuke us because of the fact we are making them rich with our jobs being outsourced.
@Depravedmaniac666 That's because the middle eastern countries couldn't! They would die if they tried; it would be a joke. Russia did, China may not have but that's because terrorists weren't a threat to them. They are, and were, to us. True, but if they ever try to go for Thailand and we intervene, which we will, we will be at war and then lets see if they're still friendly, jobs or not.
@m1ndfr34k117 "The fact is, we aren't killing "countless" civilians..."
How in the hell do you define countless anyway? The fact is, we're killing enough of them, that we're even worse than Saddam or the Taliban. Also Saddam did a hell of a lot better supplying his people with electricity food etc. The occupation is pointless, and fucks us financially. North Korea has nukes to prevent us from invading, Kim Jong ill only launch his missiles because he's scared we would claim he was terrorist.
@Depravedmaniac666 My rifle never was used to kill a civilian EVER, You communist dick sucks need to get that out of your little head. You've got it ass backwards countless of U.S. servicemen and woman are dying because we can't open fire if they are anywhere NEAR a civilian.
@WarfighterCapable Its a damn shame, when a so-called American takes advantages of their rights to bash our country and military. In the countries they support by this rhetoric, they would have already had a bullet put through the back of the head.
@Depravedmaniac666 find me a statistic that says we've killed even 5% of the civilian population. I would say it's approximately 2- percent, if I had to guess. And we are forcing our way on them because theirs has failed and lead to an attack on us. If they can't keep their people straight, we will make it so that they can.
@m1ndfr34k117 "You don't arrest a landlord to because the person living their commit crimes"
You do if the landlord helps and supports the criminals, do you not? That's why we got rid of the Taliban. Also tell me what the hell Iraq had to do with 9/11? We've already had this argument and you've failed to make a rebuttal.
Thus because the enemy realizes that when they attack us, it will come as only a major loss to them, they'll find a weaker misguided country to bully less likely to use nuclear weapons. Could you imagine if the fuckin' taliban and Al Queda decided to attack China? Do you think they'd put up with their shit? Do you think they'd honestly care about restoring a new government after they ruined their shit?
You see the pattern? You don't beat an enemy hell bent on destroying you by being nice to them, and giving them rights. You gotta nuke them into submission. This is the 21st century, we should be fighting with bombs, not soldiers. We could've done shit after 9/11, but now we seem like a bunch of pussies to the rest of the world doing this occupying bullshit, the problem is, we're scared to offend anybody.
@Depravedmaniac666 I agree we're too scared to offend anybody, but nukes are too drastic. That being said, we are fighting with bombs...when we can. It is not cost effective or practical in anyway to fire a bomb into a village to kill one building of suspected terrorists. It takes soldiers on the ground to find out where they are, only problem is, is in urban environments, when you find them, they see you, a fight breaks out.
@m1ndfr34k117 "100,000 civies so we could kill 1,000 terrorists"
So far we've killed about 18,000 insurgents, and around 150,000 - 300,000 civilians. Saddam didn't have this problem because he had a tight grip upon his people and wasn't scared to kill an entire village every time someone decided to start that religious bullshit. The result, a much more peaceful Iraq. It was the same case for Afghanistan.
Don't take it so seriously, people. I've been doin this shit for 6 years and I think its hilarious. As a Service Member from the Bay Area, California (Close to Berkeley, Berkeley = Radical Liberals EVERYWHERE), you learn to let things roll off your back and you just Charlie Mike (Continue Mission). You can't change peoples opinions or critizism, but you can change your outlook on life and how you treat people.
I love the hypocrites of this country so much, all these liberals say on TV is that George Bush started this war and is the reason why this country is so much in debt. After that, they then tell you that we are profiting from Iraqi civilians dying and all we want is oil. Then, when it comes time to talk about the military, they call them pawns of corporations and brainless men who fight for no reason but to be called heros. Sounds like the maker of this video has downs syndrome.
Your a leech to society. You spineless fag! Go pay for your fucking pathetic student loans with my hard earned taxes. By the way your mom swallows, I guess you got it from her........
@MrBirdmanD Thanks for responding to me months later. You're (it's a conjugation meaning 'you are'. We learned that in the 2nd or 3rd grade) an uneducated, redneck bigot. You don't know a fucking thing about me, so you throw out your homophobic slurs and insult my mom? What are you fucking 8 years old? I paid for my own college you lonely, pathetic piece of shit. You obviously didn't graduate high school and wasted everyone's taxes trying to no avail to teach you not to eat glue.
It's really hard for me to express how deeply sorry I am to have hurt you. Words cannot describe how making you feel disrespected and alone, has made me feel miserable and guilty.
Respond to this video... It's really hard for me to express how deeply sorry I am to have hurt you in the past. Words cannot describe how making you feel disrespected and alone, has made me feel miserable and guilty.
If you are in High School and are receiving unsolicited phone calls from recruiters tell them that you do not have time when they call. They will ask when is a good time to call, you tell them that you are aware of the local recruitment office and when and if you are interested you will call them. Do not be the victim of their prey, they tell the biggest lies and are not accountable for the promises they make. It is a classic case of misery loves company. Have self-respect dont become a SLAVE!!
I bet you anti-mil fags are in your 8th year of college that mommy and daddy pays for, you haven't worked a day in your apathetic lives, drive your paid for fucking BMW's, own a gay little dog, and think that America owes you everything because of your penis envy. Aw yea, the US military consists of all volunteers.
And what do you do in the military? I know people who've actually been deployed who found this hilarious. You talk about people with small dogs, but you favorited a U2 video. Nuff said.
Hey Fag Boy, I was following U2 before the best part of you was running down your mothers ass crack. I do believe the IRA was and is a terrorist organization, ref "Sunday Bloody Sunday" Please don't comment on my music preferences with ignorance. Yes, I know a little bit about the military.
Again, I know people who DEPLOYED, and actually saw combat, that thought this was FUNNY. You must have served in a far greater capacity than them to justify your butthurt.
Expressing your opinion about the war is fine.....however I get the distinct feeling that the creator of this video has a complete lack of respect for the men and women of our armed forces. Don't worry they will fight to make sure you can sit on your ass making videos to bash them on YouTube as well. :)
your right we will keep fighting for lazy unthankfull bastards like the one that made this video but you know if i had the choice id rather just shoot him!
@NoComment0531 it stops terrorists from thriving. If a serial killer that absolutely hated you lived next door and I broke in and killed him, I protected you. I know it's not the best of examples but it would be similar to that.
@m1ndfr34k117 If anything starting a war that had nothing to do with 9/11 is going to create more terrorists and make us look like power hungry assholes. Not to mention are foreign policy is so fucked up and useless, that the white house decides to encourage some guy down in florida not to burn Qur'ans, and yet somehow they think we're going to put our way of life on them.
@NoComment0531 it did have something to do with 9/11. It woke us up to the problems in the Middle East and we have caught or killed many of the people responsible. And even if it had nothing to do with 9/11, we have other legitimate reasons for going. I do agree, however, that a lot of things are wrong, including our foreign policy.
@NoComment0531 No, it had to do with catching Sadam himself and suppressing the terrorist groups in addition to catching or killing other high profile targets.
Respond to this video...This is not going to turn into a Vietnam. This war as one of the lowest allied death rates of any war America's ever fought in and we've been doing it for 7 years now, correct?
@m1ndfr34k117 "This is not going to turn into a Vietnam"
It already is. Iraq is pretty much Same type of guerrilla warfare situation, only it takes place in a desert. It doesn't matter how many lives are lost, and sadly they're all going to die in vain, just like Vietnam.
@Depravedmaniac666 How do you figure? The civil and revolutionary war also included guerrilla warfare, do you want to put them up there with Vietnam? The way I look at Vietnam is this: A LOT of people died in vain because of politics. Here, politics isn't AS conflicting with the mission, and no where near as many soldiers have been killed. Also, we have accomplished something in this war, unlike Vietnam.
@m1ndfr34k117 Guerrilla war as in, the "insurgents" hide behind civilians, just like the Vietcong hid behind civilians in small villages, and that is why we are going to lose Iraq and Afghanistan. How much do you want to bet as soon as we pull out, there's going to be a huge civil war between the Sunnis and the Shiites, and any ounce of progress we have made in that country would go to vain because of politics and our shitty war strategy.
@Depravedmaniac666 Have you ever taken an AP history class? If you have, you'd have learned that cause and effect are more important than the details. Who cares about tactics when we're talking about the big picture. That being said, we are doing better with the guerrilla warfare than we did in Vietnam. I am with you on the fact that we shouldn't have pulled out though because that is counter-productive to everything we've done so far. We may not have the best strategy, but I don't see you...
@Depravedmaniac666 ... coming up with a new one. It is a different war to fight, but one that needs to be fought. It is slow, tedious, and many don't like that, but slow and steady is the only way to win. Politics are getting in the way though, but that's true for almost any civilization in history.
@m1ndfr34k117 "I am with you on the fact that we shouldn't have pulled out though"
Wait, I when I said as soon as we pull out, and everything will turn into a bigger shithole than it already is, I implied that we shouldn't of been there in the first place.
"We may not have the best strategy, but I don't see you comming up with a new one"
No one has to. Ever heard of the phillipines and how we won there? Cruelty. Ever heard of japan, 1945 Hiroshima, and Nagasaki?
@Depravedmaniac666 Okay, so now your contradicting yourself. You say you want us to stay but not go in the first place? And clearly we cannot do this today, not only would the UN have a cow (although I personally think they can go screw themselves) but this war is no where close to the scale of WWII. In WWII, we were pushed into doing whatever got the job done and we also had a clear enemy. Here, it is more vague and we aren't to the point of going to such extremes. We were cruel to the enemy.
@m1ndfr34k117 I never ever said at one point during this debate that we should have gone over seas, or remain there. I've also never implied it. We should have nuked the fuckers after they attacked us and stayed out of Iraq. Vague it may be, but you've got consider something. It costs a lot to keep that occupation going over there. Not only that but we're creating more enemies. Is it safe for me to imply that you want a war we're never going to win and have all the soldiers die in vain?
@Depravedmaniac666 I never said you did, but you did imply that you think it would be better to have stayed there to finish the job, on purpose or not. Here's why that wouldn't work, we nuke them, EVERYBODY hates us now. In addition, we would be killing countless civilians. That's like America having a radical Christian group who goes around bombing abortion clinics in Russia, and then them launching a nuke at us. It isn't entirely the governments fault for one extremist groups' actions.
@m1ndfr34k117 "That's like America having a radical Christian group who goes around bombing abortion clinics in Russia, and them etc."
Ok, but when it comes to invading an entire country and killing countless civilians, and creating conflicts that never end you've got no problem with that? If Russia were to occupy us do you think us Americans not involved would submit to their new government? Secondly the reason we invaded Afghanistan is because the Taliban supported Al Queda.
@m1ndfr34k117 Thus we overthrew that government, and now we are trying to force our way of life on them that will never work. The only thing our current enemy respects is brute force.
"Here's why that wouldn't work, we nuke them, EVERYBODY hates us now"
Who cares? The most important thing is that everyone fears us, and then our enemies would realize that if they try that shit on us once more, there little Jihad is going to end in a nuclear oblivion, none of our lives lost.
I look at this vid and I actually see what I've seen fighting for this country. I mean seriousely. All kinds of companies from different countries are profiting from this country and war. If any soldier, or civilian contracter can't see this. Then you need to really look into your common sense. So if your thinking about defending America. Be prepared to defend yourself from backstabbing, lying, some lazy, faggots! If you don't believe me. Then join and see for yourself.
@boxerboy83 Yeah, companies are supposed to profit. There was profit in WWII, so I guess that was an unjust war too, right? But anyways, what do you mean by backstabbing?
When you go to a recruiter and start to do paper work for entry to the DEP they don't hide the fact that death is a possibility,or that you may get stuck on a longer tour or that you might not get the MOS you wanted everything is laid out very clearly and they still voluntarily serve the country to protect anti America anti military pussy's like the people that make these ads. Well the marines do at least. Haha jk
@trakkaton You are so ignorant and uneducated that all you could be used for is a couple of lulz while listening to your shitty music and laughing at your inept ability to understand economics.
Not to come off as an ignorant right-wing asshole, but who, in America, has made any profit off of Iraq or Afghanistan? Only (around) 10% of the oil in Iraq is owned by American oil companies and the only currently tapped resource in Afghanistan is opium and marijuana. All of the drug money is going to the Taliban and the mineral deposits are largely ignored and/or being mined by the Chinese or local warlords.
@fallingrocks Too bad Halliburton and Blackwater make up a fraction of the total business profits. Once again, a majority of the oil is owned by foreign companies. There is no way that "America" is profiting off of Iraq or Afghanistan. The only people truly profiting are arms companies/military industrial complex, but hell, they profit off of every conflict. I'm not saying that Iraq was justified but to say that we invaded so we could get our hands on oil holds no ground.
@trakkaton Yeah, lets not make money off of the war so we won't have any when the war is over. Yeah, because not having money is the moral way to go about things. While we're at it, lets all abolish the government and live in one giant hippie commune.
Ooh, quickly changing rationalizations now. First the US pretends to commit the war crime of destroying Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Pakistan, Yemen, Iran, Vietnam, etc. etc. for human rights (while ignoring them), getting rid of dictators (while installing them), finding WMDs (while using them), but then suddenly affluent chauvinistic scumfucks like you who beat to death anyone who grabs their purse rationalize it's OK to rape kids and torture women in order to make some cash. JUST DIE!
@trakkaton Ooh lie about history, we haven't installed dictators, the only people who think we're abusing rights are those who can't see any humanitarian effort going on, we haven't used a WMD since WWII. Yeah, because the Taliban, the Somali terrorists, Islamic terrorists, and Saddam were all just rosy with the human rights deal. America isn't perfect by any means, but to trash us like we're some evil empire while we make an effort to help people is ignorant at best and retarded at worst.
You know, we can go on forever like this: You babble some nonsense, and I debunk you to the fullest, but as soon as you've lost an argument, you start to babble some new nonsense. You are too dumb to understand that you are too dumb.
"We haven't installed dictators" - except Saddam Hussein, the Shah, Pinochet, etc. Not talking about Papa Doc, Baby Doc, Mubarak, Montt, Fahd, Botha, Abacha, Somoza, Batista, Mobuto, Marcos, Pol Pot, Hassan II, Trujillos, etc.
That doesn't make any sense. Either you understand that you're wrong, then you have to change. Or you are too dumb to understand it. But you can't say that you're wrong and still won't man up to the consequences.
@trakkaton So supporting the troops is supporting the actions of the government? The troops are the ones making the decisions to support dictators and stuff? Let me guess, the troops decided to go to Vietnam specifically to kill babies.
So supporting the hitmen is supporting the mafia? So supporting the cameraman of the child porn is supporting the child porn producer? Don't even try to tell me you're too stupid to figure that one out. And I also know that everyone knows that you don't need to plan and decide far in advance to be guilty. Actually the failure to make a decision in sufficient. Common sense. The one who hits a kid driving home drunk didn't have to plan it last year. Don't tell me you're that stupid.
@trakkaton Most people join the military because they want to defend their country/family/way of life. I'm not gonna say that it's the only way to do that but that's what people with basic reasoning believe. You don't just have an impact on the world by sitting around and whining or making music, you do it by taking up arms and fighting. Some people like how they aren't persecuted in America and that's why they join. You wouldn't know because you haven't had to fight for anything in your life
How many more fallacies and logical flaws are you going to present? When a hitmen joins the mafia because the mafia protects him, family values and the church does that make it right? Do the good intentions of an SS officer who shoots civilians randomly count? Are you capable of logic? Are you capable of answering specific questions instead of evading the topic? Can you name an example where mass murder ever solved a problem, your hate for the arts aside? Do you know anything about me?
@trakkaton Yes I am capable of answering specific questions. Yes if a hitman joins the mafia (because they protect him) he is supporting them, no the SS is different from normal military functions (in past history) because they were built on the principles of Hitler and had no good intentions in the first place. Yes, mass murder did solve a problem, it solved the problem of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. I don't hate the "arts" since that is objective.
The drivel that you post me just escapes me. "I don't hate the "arts" since that is objective." - Can someone come up with a more nonsensical sentence like that? I mean, that even tops your general thought that geing a psychopathic serial killer is far more productive that creating highly complex architectures of sound.
Btw you know absolutely NOTHING about history. The US supported Nazi Germany. Before, during and after the war. Ford. Thyssen. Paperclip. Prescott BuSSh. Get a clue.
@trakkaton The "ARTS" thing is because anything that's art can be perceived a different way. The music that you make is shit IMO, but you probably think that Bathory makes terrible music, so an opinion is an opinion.
Every military (i.e. gang of shameless mass murderers) is based on the principle that they themselves are "the good guys" while their enemies are "the bad guys". To imply to the contrary just shows that you have no understanding of history or psychology whatsoever. The SS was based on Hitler's principles? No shit, Sherlock! What does that have to do with the topic? How does that prove whether Hitler or the SS thought that they are "the good guys"? And don't you know what an analogy is?
@trakkaton Yeah, I know the US-Nazi connection. Nobody had any 100 percent reliable intel on the holocaust until the invasion of Germany. Yeah, people were fleeing, but people flee China and N. Korea even though they don't commit genocide on a regular basis.
@dubya68 You are so uninformed about who is making money from the wars. Most of the money made in Iraq at the moment is made by America and not from drugs, although the CIA run Taliban are doing a good job of making a lot from that. But the American companies who are sent there to rebuild what's been destroyed. There are more contractors in Iraq that soldiers and they get paid 3x as much as the soldiers do, and there not subject to ANY American or Iraqi laws and are better equipped.
@DreamsCatcher101 Oh my fucking God, no shit Sherlock. A company makes money or it doesn't exist. There's a demand for these services. Connect the dots. If a hurricane strikes and a company profits off of repairs then who gives a shit? Oh I guess these companies are pushing "global warming" in order to create more hurricanes.
@dubya68 United States does not belons to Americans, While the country is falling in debts and corruption, some private groups will benefits from this like private company, banks, etc. Americans are pawns to be played with, and its alright because they demand it.
@dubya68 well you could argue that HAILIBERTON has made a real killing off the US AND the UK armed forces in IRAQ..$2.50 for a can of coke ring any bells?)
Whoever the liberal retard is that made this video should get the hell out of this country, especially if you can't respect or fail to see what the military has done and continues doing for you.
"The military" is a bunch of hitmen that extorts money from the public through "taxes" to murder millions of innocent people for the profit of a gang of rich fucks. They all need to be executed for their crimes against humanity. They are the scum of the earth.
@trakkaton Yep, America is totally getting rich off of this. OOOH HALIBURTONZ IZ MAKINGZ ZEH MONIES!!! Too bad both of the wars are draining us of money.
Your problem is that you stil don't understand the most basic property of the political system of the US. "The draining" that you refer to happens to the pockets of the majority of the people, stealing their money through bubbles, scams, inflation, protection money ("taxes"), etc. That is socializing costs. The profits, on the other hand, are privatized. So to balance the two shows pretty well how fundamental your lack of understanding is.
@trakkaton The reason we have private companies like Blackwater is to shift some of the burden from the government. We aren't Soviet Russia where everything is done by the state. Yes, unfortunately the government does fuck us over financially, and I'm in favor of a national flat tax and a return to the gold standard. At least those would force our government to wisely manage our money instead of mindlessly printing more and scamming us with these bailouts.
So you contiue on with your trollbot rants and haven't even been able to understand the one basic point of the comment you "reply" to is: That you suck at math in a fundamental way. Evasion tactics by a peabrain.
@trakkaton Tell me what you want me to answer and I will. I will answer every question you want me to answer, I don't really feel like going through a half-page of two-way shit throwing comments.
See, there's the problem: You are too lazy to read. You even state that as a fact. I might add that you are too lazy to entertain any serious though longer than your short attention span. That's fine, but then please refrain from telling everyone about your "opinion", if your "opinion" is based on ignorance and laziness.
@trakkaton See there's a problem: you can't solidify your argument. Everything I say is either bad or you act like I was responding to an unrelated comment and then claim I'm lazy or retarded. You must be a troll since you insinuated that your "music" is complex. Anyways since you won't have a coherent argument and will not have a solid basis for any of your claims, then I've declared myself as the winner of this comment battle. BTW, don't even say that I think the US is infallible.
If this would be a battle you would be dead before you hear the shot. It's YOU yourself who claimed that you are too lazy to read my comments. Just because you are too lazy to read doesn't mean my arguments aren't solid. If you are frustrated with your lazyness (as you yourself stated), or with being wrong (as you yourself stated), with having poor knowledge of histoy or with your lack of logic don't suddenly blame ME for it. Man up and take responsibility.
@trakkaton See, you won't even respond to my comment. I read your comments and responded to them and then you responded by bringing up unrelated arguments or just plain attack me. When I say "we have companies like Blackwater to shift some of the burden off of the Government/We aren't the U.S.S.R. where everything is done by the state." You then call me a trollbot. There is no mature response there just plain trolling.
Are you making fun of yourself or are you honestly saying that you don't understand why I don't relate to comments that do not relate to my comments? The two sentences you quoted have ABSOLUTELY - N*O*T*H*I*N*G - to do with the topic. They're misplaced tautologies, a strange conglomerate of fallacies. Offtopic. Nonsensical. You somehow think that the corporations are NOT sucking everyone dry, making huge profits that everyone else pays for because - the US is not the USSR. Idiot. E T C
@trakkaton Um the corporations wouldn't exist if they sucked everyone dry. Are you an anarchist or communist? It just seems extremely retarded that you don't understand basic capitalism. If people don't make money or prosper, then the corporations wouldn't exist and the government would be even more broke than it is now. That is why the U.S.S.R. failed, that's why Cuba is failing, and that's why China is using capitalism (especially in Hong Kong) to make loads of money. This is all fact.
Oh, this is so tiring. Do you really have to bother me with the silly LaLa-Land you live in, changing the topic every time you are proven wrong, bringing up one new nonsense that is even more absurd than the last one? "the corporations wouldn't exist if they sucked everyone dry. " - That's as meaningful as "the mafia wouldn't exist if they sucked everyone dry." Ever heard of billionaires and sweatshop slaves? 50% of humans living from 1$ a day? Have you been in a coma - since birth?
@trakkaton Have you heard that people in third world countries that have dismal economies benefit from getting 1 dollar a day? Sweatshops may not have the high standards that your office space has, but it sure is a lot better than working on a shitty third world farm with rusty/dangerous equipment. Once again, your argument is based on twisted communist (I know, cliche, right?) logic. Why isn't there a revolt in every country with these so-called "sweatshops"? It's because it improves lives.
Welcome to the United Corporations of America formerly known as the USA
War is when you fight to win. A declaration of war hasn't been made. We are in a perpetual state of the people, citizens of the USA paying to protect the global corporation’s interests in other parts of the world all under a false pretense of rehabilitating the population of third world countries, many of whom are criminal and murderers etc.
not really sure what trakkaton is trolling about, but all I have to say is 90% of US servicemen actually are good people, being that I know many who have served. Stop hating the soldiers, I hate the war just like everyone else here, but it isnt the soldiers' faults
@trakkaton LOL learn to think? Learn to read? Your profile READS that you are from Germany so I'm not the only one to THINK that you're German. And you are the last person on earth to tell ME to stop using fallacies. I NEVER changed the topic. you said that Im advocating genocide by supporting my troops. Logical Fallacy (Assuming two unrelated things are connected without legitimate evidence). So being that your profile reads that you are from Germany, I told you not to accuse me of genocide
@trakkaton And also, "zombie fuckhead?" Its not witty, funny, or even a good insult. Which is an example of yet ANOTHER logical fallacy YOU continue to use. Insulting ME PERSONALLY rather than my argument. How about you go back to Germany or where ever youre from and leave the educated people to run MY country(one you're not even from in the first place)
1. Caling you a "zombie fuckhead" isn't an insult, it is a description: You are unable to think on your own, instead you parrot gov propaganda the tv fed into your empty, fucked brain and make it look like it's something original. Learn to read.
2. The profile of the BAND that you hastily read states that the BAND is located in Germany. You idiot don't even graps how many false assumptions you're making. 4. You are advocating genocide, shall I cite?
@trakkaton lol first of all how the fuck was I supposed to know it was a band dumbass lol. And obviously I do think on my own...and I do read, I DONT WATCH CNN or any other bullshit government controlled stations so I agree with you how the government has the ability to spread lies. the Iraq war: 1. doesn't really have ANYTHING to do with you, so why do you even care...2. its your OPINION that we are there for the wrong reason, you can't PROVE that we are there for wrong reasons
3. Unfortunately there is a definition of what a "troll" is. It is people who start drama with unfounded hyperboles, who never enter an actual debate becasue they use fallacies all the time and continously change the topic. Just like you did, when you denied the Iraqi body count, then you're proven wrong with the Lancet study, then you change the topic. Or you claim that war crimes are for freedom, and are debunked every time you deliver another gov slogan.
@trakkaton second of all I have NOT changed the subject ONCE in this debate, nor have used anywhere NEAR as many fallacies as you. One fallacy you are using right now is how you are AVOIDING my point that you have used said fallacies after I have pointed them out. At least I actually DISCUSS my so called "fallacies" with you. So think again before you call out logical fallacies on ME
@trakkaton honestly though when it all comes down to it, you're just making an ass of yourself. I'm just laughin my ass off everytime you post, and I know pretty much everyone else on this discussion board XD. Seriously NO ONE CARES what you have to say, so feel free to get the last word in...I wont be here to reply and fuel your trolling. Have a wonderful day ;)
I'm an iraqi combat vet and this made me laugh (y)
Sm0keArr0ws 2 weeks ago
I'm currently stationed in Germany with the Army, gearing up for deployment. I happen to think the video is humorous, and let's be honest... we ALL know recruiters are crooked lmao. I'd also like to point out that we fight for our country's freedom of speech so love the video or hate it, I'd give my last breath to make sure nobody ever took away his/her right to post it.
ThatGuyThat69s 3 weeks ago
personaly ur pissing me off we risk our ass in Iraq n Afg so some idiot like u to make stupid shit like this deverdad q te digo fuck u damn ignorant ppl like u bring the negative the agriesive puertorican side in me u dick I have seen some many of my friends fall have some respect Im a Marine oorah til the day I die Im here to protect my6 country n brothers n sisters in arms u dick fuck the pol they meen nothing to me but my country does
DarkAngel7884 4 months ago
@DarkAngel7884 What exactly upset you?
fallingrocks 4 months ago
@fallingrocks everything ppl know what they r getting them selfs into when they join this vid to me makes soldiers seem like they r stupid to get them self in harms way yes its dangerus every 1 knows that they dont put an M4 or M16 in ur head to join u dont want to know whats like to see ur friends die n every thing u do to save them doesnt work I didnt mean to offend in case I did but this vid wrong its goes against every thing we stand 4
DarkAngel7884 4 months ago
@DarkAngel7884, there have actually been some hidden camera exposes that show that recruiters have been lying to prospects about where they will be placed. And the commercials that this parodies certainly show nothing of the carnage you will be involved in. Certainly, seeing your buddies die is not part of the recruitment process. The average age of a soldier in the U.S. is 19. We don't think you can handle your alcohol, but you can choose to fight and die for us.
fallingrocks 4 months ago
@fallingrocks I dont care If my country sends me to a Hell hole like Iraq again or Afg 4 the 1 time ill follow orders n keep my buds n my self alive u making exc. n were u r placed depends on what u want n ur asvab scores get over it n yes im young im 27 n some of my brothers n sisters in arms r even yunger bu they choose this on their own n yes if I die I die 4 my fa, my puertorican n american flag, my country n the corps oorha Im not afraid to die
DarkAngel7884 4 months ago
@fallingrocks but I am afried of loosing a friend my cuz that was serving whit me n my country Marine till the day I die oorah
DarkAngel7884 4 months ago
@fallingrocks the average age for military servicemen and women is not 19. It is actually 28 if you're talking about all active duty.
guitarhamster102 2 months ago
@DarkAngel7884 Maybe you should have finished school before joining the marines, your comprehension of basic grammar, spelling and the English language in general has made my brain hurt.
PrivateJoker17 2 weeks ago
Wait, isn't Obama the one attacking Libya? Don't blame this shit on the repubs, it's just life. We are lower, they are higher...it's not about political beliefs, it's always been the class system.
TheKenTerry 5 months ago
I get the video, and it's funny. I do hope since making this you've given thought to the "right-wing agenda" part of it. The political party doesn't matter. You have to be rational in ALL judgments, not just of the party that you like better at the moment.
dudeofopinion 5 months ago
@dudeofopinion Dude, your right, the political party doesn't matter, but it is a right-wing agenda. Anything that intentionally serves the concentration of wealth, is a right-wing agenda. As Gore Vidal said: "There is only one party in the United States, the Property Party...and it has two right wings: Republican and Democrat."
givebirthathome 5 months ago
go serve you left winged pussy.
benskurek 7 months ago
@benskurek, you think pussies are bad thing? Hmm, that might make you gay. Good thing we did away with Don't Ask Don't Tell.
fallingrocks 7 months ago 13
I think more politically correct forms of disclaimers like these should be put out there today, considering the flood of douche bag applicants as a result of the recent recession.
ChrisspacePatti 9 months ago
So - are you going to update this for Libya?
SCE2AUX 9 months ago
This overlooked Gulf War Syndrome and Agent Orange and DU exposure and...
KaptKan1 10 months ago
@KaptKan1 It was specifically talking about the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.
HimesInu 6 months ago
@HimesInu ? Sorry but I don't know to what you are referring here; I haven't posted at this site in three months and I don't find a post addressed to you. That said, my vision isn't too good, LOL.
It's interesting that you say, "the war in Iraq and Afghanistan," which implies -- quite correctly, in my opinion -- that it's really all part of one scheme. As is the attack on Libya, btw.
KaptKan1 6 months ago
@KaptKan1 This video is specifically talking about the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. And it mere;y implies that the person or persons behind this video are a) anti-war or b) just against the war in Iraq and Afghanistan and not war in general. But either way, this person or persons is a Democrat.
As for the "scheme," I wouldn't know much about that, I do as I'm told as long as it's lawful.
Also, this wasn't addressed to me, but I was merely stating a reason why the Gulf war was overlooked.
HimesInu 6 months ago
@HimesInu Okay, got it. I don't care about "Democrats" or "Republicans"; there are only two honest men in Congress now, Ron Paul (R?) and Dennis Kucinich (D?).
Me, I'm opposed to all the imperial wars, all of which are against the US Constitution. That said, I don't give a damn about what is "lawful" or not; everything the Nazis and the Soviets ever did was "lawful". The only laws I recognise are God's laws and He for sure does not endorse this murder and mayhem.
Imo.
Peace and Liberty.
KaptKan1 6 months ago
mabey if you served you would have some real facts about the military. You cannot be put into a combat zone unless you sign up for it.
shutyourdangpiehole 10 months ago
@shutyourdangpiehole if you are in the military, they can put you where ever they want to put you, there is no, "i didn't sign up to go to Iraq." it's go, or go to jail. don't bother trying to say I'm wrong, cause I didn't vaulunteer to go to Iraq, and my wife didn't either to go to afghanistan.
gunny0321 9 months ago
@gunny0321 You sign up knowing you may be sent into war zones. You sign up knowing you may have to fight unpopular war or go to places you don't want to. Why did you and your wife enlist if you didn't volunteer to go to places others don't want to go?
HimesInu 6 months ago
gay
reverb1969 10 months ago
what a load of left wing bull shit fuck i hate the left wing
badgerattoadhall 10 months ago
There's always one asshole in every crowd. Try serving your country, Moron, and maybe you too can know what it's like to feel the pride of patriotism.
NavyMedicUSMC 10 months ago
@NavyMedicUSMC Here's what some Americans say: “Governments constantly choose between telling lies and fighting wars, with the end result always being the same. One will always lead to the other.” – Thomas Jefferson
"I am an anti-imperialist. I am opposed to having the eagle put its talons on any other land." ~ Mark Twain
“Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear.” ~ Gen. Douglas MacArthur
KaptKan1 10 months ago
@russellwallace cool story bro. Hopefully you'll all die over there. You vote against your own interests anyway.
Antiks72 10 months ago
Lol Yeah I would have never joined if they did. Those of you who don't like this video have either never been in the military or believe the bullshit you are fed. Those of us who have served and been deployed know the truth. America's sons and daughters shouldn't have to fight for no reason just to make those in power richer. The only reason we went to Iraq was for the oil but gas prices keep going higher and higher even after the "war" is over. "Weapons of mass destruction", yeah! OpenYourEyes!
mexiking1414 10 months ago
Yeah, fuck the military. These recruiters prey on kids for a good reason; they're not hornery enough to sort out the bullshit yet. Yes, I have served.
Antiks72 10 months ago
@russellwallace Why is that, because you're a right-winger?
Antiks72 10 months ago
The parody of side effects are actually "True"!
Koolvedge 10 months ago
"Including men or women who are nursing or pregnant, or who may become pregnant"
I'mk just guessing here buy maybe you can cut out half of the people in that equation.
jairodrigue 11 months ago
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olisquercio 1 year ago 2
@olisquercio Good advice; they've almost all got venereal diseases anyway, especially AIDS which is to be expected in their "don't ask - don't tell" military.
KaptKan1 10 months ago
would have been funnier if it had stuck to bodily injuries and not the conspiracy politics.
mrbananas8 1 year ago
@mrbananas8 you are so right.. but then it would have been comedy instead of propaganda..
MrMeanderthal 11 months ago
ght terrorism better than we are today. That's because he wasn't a pussy like us. But we've struck the beehive, now the "terrorists" are loose, the only way to control them, is to control the masses, and prevent them from recruiting new members, which is rule the country just like Saddam did. That's the only way we're going to fix Iraq. In Afghanistan we've got to nuke the fucker's until they give up Osama, and Al Queda and the Taliban surrenders.
Depravedmaniac666 1 year ago
Saddam became a real threat to all those countries, when he invaded Kuwait (with the weapons we gave him to fight Iran by the way) but of course we intervened, and sort of did the job. The job that they should be doing for themselves.
"Russia did, China may not have but that's because terrorists weren't a threat to them. They are, and were to us"
If Russia honestly cared about Saddam, they would've done something like dethrone his ass a long time ago. What's even more fucked up is, Saddam fou
Depravedmaniac666 1 year ago
"That's because the middle Eastern countries couldn't"
If they fought together and formed a coalition they could have (in other words if they gave a shit, which they didn't because middle eastern culture is and has been submissive, and don't value human rights like our culture). Pakistan alone could do the job seeings how they had nukes. You've also got Isreal, and not to mention Saudi Arabia also has a decent army and don't forget, Iran as well.
Depravedmaniac666 1 year ago
Personally I liked the video but unlike some people here, I have a sense of humour! Keep it up and don't take life so seriously guys, nobody ever gets out alive!
alastairfk13 1 year ago 15
I hate anti-military fags. They should ask 'the beloved leader' in North Fucking Korea to help them. Oh and by the way, it's okay to move out of your mom's basement and quit playing with your air-guitar while wearing a Elvis presley costume.
CookiesAndGuns95 1 year ago
what we're trying to do and fucks us financially, is pointless to begin with, or send every single country around the world the message that if you fuck with us, the apocalypse is eminent.
Depravedmaniac666 1 year ago
regardless of the reasons that politicians say we are at war for, we soldiers know why we're there. No one is forced to enlist, it's a volunteer army. Yeah, war sucks, people dying sucks, but ultimately every single one of us chose to fight for what we believe in. Do we want to go home? Of course, but we know what our duty is and it's ridiculous for everyone back home to bash what we do and why we do it...
alexisrosado 1 year ago
on wars without an end, or we may very well end up like a third world country, and there isn't any sense fighting these pointless wars which are only going to cost more lives than if we used nuclear weapons.
"We lose the favor of ALL our allies"
Most of Europe already hates America, who cares. But about the time the terrorists stop fucking with us and start fucking with one of them, then maybe that country would understand why we would be that drastic.
Depravedmaniac666 1 year ago
Also if a christian abortion clinic did that shit to Russia, and our government did nothing to help find the perpetrators, we'd be just a guilty as the Taliban and Al Quada you can bet your ass they'd threaten to blow us up if we did nothing, and helped them.
Depravedmaniac666 1 year ago
@Depravedmaniac666 Okay, my point is nuking them will not end well for us. We nuke them, we lose the favor of ALL of our allies. There are too many civies we would kill. Nukes are a deterrent, not a solution. I agree we should be doing shock and awe, but AGAIN, we don't know who the enemy is. We can't just go kill 100,000 civies so we could kill 1,000 terrorists, it just doesn't work like that.
m1ndfr34k117 1 year ago
@Depravedmaniac666 Iraq is helping us with the terrorist problem smart one. That being said, they wouldn't blow us up. It would only end badly for them. They would mess us up, but they would be left in the same state as us. It's like China, if we went to war, they would mess us up. Period. However, it would be just as bad for them. Same thing here.
m1ndfr34k117 1 year ago
@m1ndfr34k117 "My point is nuking them will not end well for us"
Worked pretty well with Japan, now they're are allies and one of the richest most successful countries in the world.
"There are too many civies we would kill"
Civies are joining the terrorists because we are making their lives even more miserable and they don't want our way of life. The only solution is to strike fear and realization to everyone who wants to fuck with us we've also got to stop wasting so much money,
Depravedmaniac666 1 year ago
@Depravedmaniac666 That was back when we were the only ones with deployable nukes. Now, just about every powerhouse country has them. If Germany had them back then, as soon as we bombed Japan to "strike fear" in them, we would have been bombed back. We can't kill countless civilians because some are joining. That's like a country wanting to kill you just because you live here, not because your in the military or any kind of threat.
m1ndfr34k117 1 year ago
@m1ndfr34k117 "If Germany had them back then, as soon as we bombed Japan to "strike fear" in them"
That's because Germany was our enemy.
"We can't kill countless civilians because some are joining."
The fact is we are already killing countless civilians, and they're getting pissed off and looking at us as a tyrannical government, and we're forcing our way of life on them. It's not going to work. We've got two choices, one be just as bad as Saddam and the Taliban was, which goes against
Depravedmaniac666 1 year ago
@Depravedmaniac666 "That's because Germany was our enemy." True, but N. Korea and other middle eastern countries (plus the possibility of China and Russia) would gladly nuke us and have justifiable reason to if we nuked a country because of radical groups. It's not the countries agenda to fight us, it's the people who reside in that country. You can't put a landlord in jail because someone in the house he owns commits a crime.
The fact is, we aren't killing "countless" civilians...
m1ndfr34k117 1 year ago
@m1ndfr34k117
"True, but N. Korea and other middle eastern countries (plus the possibility of China and Russia)" would gladly nuke us and have justifiable reason to if we nuked a country"
None of the middle eastern countries gave a shit when Saddam would murder large parts of his population, using excessive force or "weapons of terror" nor did Russia, China, Pakistan etc.. China would never want to nuke us because of the fact we are making them rich with our jobs being outsourced.
Depravedmaniac666 1 year ago
@Depravedmaniac666 That's because the middle eastern countries couldn't! They would die if they tried; it would be a joke. Russia did, China may not have but that's because terrorists weren't a threat to them. They are, and were, to us. True, but if they ever try to go for Thailand and we intervene, which we will, we will be at war and then lets see if they're still friendly, jobs or not.
m1ndfr34k117 1 year ago
@m1ndfr34k117 "The fact is, we aren't killing "countless" civilians..."
How in the hell do you define countless anyway? The fact is, we're killing enough of them, that we're even worse than Saddam or the Taliban. Also Saddam did a hell of a lot better supplying his people with electricity food etc. The occupation is pointless, and fucks us financially. North Korea has nukes to prevent us from invading, Kim Jong ill only launch his missiles because he's scared we would claim he was terrorist.
Depravedmaniac666 1 year ago
@Depravedmaniac666 My rifle never was used to kill a civilian EVER, You communist dick sucks need to get that out of your little head. You've got it ass backwards countless of U.S. servicemen and woman are dying because we can't open fire if they are anywhere NEAR a civilian.
WarfighterCapable 1 year ago
@WarfighterCapable Its a damn shame, when a so-called American takes advantages of their rights to bash our country and military. In the countries they support by this rhetoric, they would have already had a bullet put through the back of the head.
jairodrigue 11 months ago
@Depravedmaniac666 find me a statistic that says we've killed even 5% of the civilian population. I would say it's approximately 2- percent, if I had to guess. And we are forcing our way on them because theirs has failed and lead to an attack on us. If they can't keep their people straight, we will make it so that they can.
m1ndfr34k117 1 year ago
@m1ndfr34k117 "You don't arrest a landlord to because the person living their commit crimes"
You do if the landlord helps and supports the criminals, do you not? That's why we got rid of the Taliban. Also tell me what the hell Iraq had to do with 9/11? We've already had this argument and you've failed to make a rebuttal.
Depravedmaniac666 1 year ago
Thus because the enemy realizes that when they attack us, it will come as only a major loss to them, they'll find a weaker misguided country to bully less likely to use nuclear weapons. Could you imagine if the fuckin' taliban and Al Queda decided to attack China? Do you think they'd put up with their shit? Do you think they'd honestly care about restoring a new government after they ruined their shit?
Depravedmaniac666 1 year ago
"I never said you did, but you did imply that you think it would be better to have stayed there to finish the job, on purpose or not."
Please tell me what statement that you get that implication from.
Depravedmaniac666 1 year ago
You see the pattern? You don't beat an enemy hell bent on destroying you by being nice to them, and giving them rights. You gotta nuke them into submission. This is the 21st century, we should be fighting with bombs, not soldiers. We could've done shit after 9/11, but now we seem like a bunch of pussies to the rest of the world doing this occupying bullshit, the problem is, we're scared to offend anybody.
Depravedmaniac666 1 year ago
@Depravedmaniac666 I agree we're too scared to offend anybody, but nukes are too drastic. That being said, we are fighting with bombs...when we can. It is not cost effective or practical in anyway to fire a bomb into a village to kill one building of suspected terrorists. It takes soldiers on the ground to find out where they are, only problem is, is in urban environments, when you find them, they see you, a fight breaks out.
m1ndfr34k117 1 year ago
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@m1ndfr34k117 "100,000 civies so we could kill 1,000 terrorists"
So far we've killed about 18,000 insurgents, and around 150,000 - 300,000 civilians. Saddam didn't have this problem because he had a tight grip upon his people and wasn't scared to kill an entire village every time someone decided to start that religious bullshit. The result, a much more peaceful Iraq. It was the same case for Afghanistan.
Depravedmaniac666 1 year ago
Even if i am dying for businesses its for a good cause because the world couldn't run with out them
NickSinisko 1 year ago
Don't take it so seriously, people. I've been doin this shit for 6 years and I think its hilarious. As a Service Member from the Bay Area, California (Close to Berkeley, Berkeley = Radical Liberals EVERYWHERE), you learn to let things roll off your back and you just Charlie Mike (Continue Mission). You can't change peoples opinions or critizism, but you can change your outlook on life and how you treat people.
510ARMY 1 year ago
I love the hypocrites of this country so much, all these liberals say on TV is that George Bush started this war and is the reason why this country is so much in debt. After that, they then tell you that we are profiting from Iraqi civilians dying and all we want is oil. Then, when it comes time to talk about the military, they call them pawns of corporations and brainless men who fight for no reason but to be called heros. Sounds like the maker of this video has downs syndrome.
ShootnTimez 1 year ago
MrBirdmanD is a brainwashed, homophobic, ignorant slave and represents everything that is wrong with this country.
shaolinzero 1 year ago
@shaolinzero
Your a leech to society. You spineless fag! Go pay for your fucking pathetic student loans with my hard earned taxes. By the way your mom swallows, I guess you got it from her........
MrBirdmanD 11 months ago
@MrBirdmanD Thanks for responding to me months later. You're (it's a conjugation meaning 'you are'. We learned that in the 2nd or 3rd grade) an uneducated, redneck bigot. You don't know a fucking thing about me, so you throw out your homophobic slurs and insult my mom? What are you fucking 8 years old? I paid for my own college you lonely, pathetic piece of shit. You obviously didn't graduate high school and wasted everyone's taxes trying to no avail to teach you not to eat glue.
shaolinzero 11 months ago
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MrBirdmanD 11 months ago
@shaolinzero
It's really hard for me to express how deeply sorry I am to have hurt you. Words cannot describe how making you feel disrespected and alone, has made me feel miserable and guilty.
MrBirdmanD 11 months ago
Respond to this video... It's really hard for me to express how deeply sorry I am to have hurt you in the past. Words cannot describe how making you feel disrespected and alone, has made me feel miserable and guilty.
MrBirdmanD 11 months ago
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Go fuck yourself
Haggstastic 1 year ago
If you are in High School and are receiving unsolicited phone calls from recruiters tell them that you do not have time when they call. They will ask when is a good time to call, you tell them that you are aware of the local recruitment office and when and if you are interested you will call them. Do not be the victim of their prey, they tell the biggest lies and are not accountable for the promises they make. It is a classic case of misery loves company. Have self-respect dont become a SLAVE!!
filleducameaux 1 year ago
@filleducameaux haha wow dude. You do realize your dealing an absolute and people of the military are not slaves, right?
m1ndfr34k117 1 year ago
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I bet you anti-mil fags are in your 8th year of college that mommy and daddy pays for, you haven't worked a day in your apathetic lives, drive your paid for fucking BMW's, own a gay little dog, and think that America owes you everything because of your penis envy. Aw yea, the US military consists of all volunteers.
MrBirdmanD 1 year ago 8
@MrBirdmanD
Thank you for fighting for the rich people. That's very patriotic of you.
SansAuthoritas 1 year ago
@MrBirdmanD
And what do you do in the military? I know people who've actually been deployed who found this hilarious. You talk about people with small dogs, but you favorited a U2 video. Nuff said.
chiconspiracy 11 months ago
@chiconspiracy
Hey Fag Boy, I was following U2 before the best part of you was running down your mothers ass crack. I do believe the IRA was and is a terrorist organization, ref "Sunday Bloody Sunday" Please don't comment on my music preferences with ignorance. Yes, I know a little bit about the military.
MrBirdmanD 10 months ago
@MrBirdmanD
Again, I know people who DEPLOYED, and actually saw combat, that thought this was FUNNY. You must have served in a far greater capacity than them to justify your butthurt.
chiconspiracy 10 months ago 8
@chiconspiracy Hell, I've been deployed and thought this was funny. Though, it was more the "large dose of Fox News" that got me laughing loudly.
HimesInu 6 months ago
This is fucking genius, This made my day and it's the damn truth.
Deadperson213 1 year ago
Expressing your opinion about the war is fine.....however I get the distinct feeling that the creator of this video has a complete lack of respect for the men and women of our armed forces. Don't worry they will fight to make sure you can sit on your ass making videos to bash them on YouTube as well. :)
angrypablo 1 year ago
your right we will keep fighting for lazy unthankfull bastards like the one that made this video but you know if i had the choice id rather just shoot him!
TheSandman5050 1 year ago
@TheSandman5050 How is invading Iraq protecting my freedom?
NoComment0531 1 year ago
@NoComment0531 it stops terrorists from thriving. If a serial killer that absolutely hated you lived next door and I broke in and killed him, I protected you. I know it's not the best of examples but it would be similar to that.
m1ndfr34k117 1 year ago
@m1ndfr34k117 If anything starting a war that had nothing to do with 9/11 is going to create more terrorists and make us look like power hungry assholes. Not to mention are foreign policy is so fucked up and useless, that the white house decides to encourage some guy down in florida not to burn Qur'ans, and yet somehow they think we're going to put our way of life on them.
NoComment0531 1 year ago
@NoComment0531 it did have something to do with 9/11. It woke us up to the problems in the Middle East and we have caught or killed many of the people responsible. And even if it had nothing to do with 9/11, we have other legitimate reasons for going. I do agree, however, that a lot of things are wrong, including our foreign policy.
m1ndfr34k117 1 year ago
@m1ndfr34k117 Like what, the WMD's Saddam didn't have? Create another Vietnam?
NoComment0531 1 year ago
@NoComment0531 No, it had to do with catching Sadam himself and suppressing the terrorist groups in addition to catching or killing other high profile targets.
m1ndfr34k117 1 year ago
Respond to this video...This is not going to turn into a Vietnam. This war as one of the lowest allied death rates of any war America's ever fought in and we've been doing it for 7 years now, correct?
m1ndfr34k117 1 year ago
@m1ndfr34k117 "This is not going to turn into a Vietnam"
It already is. Iraq is pretty much Same type of guerrilla warfare situation, only it takes place in a desert. It doesn't matter how many lives are lost, and sadly they're all going to die in vain, just like Vietnam.
Depravedmaniac666 1 year ago
@Depravedmaniac666 How do you figure? The civil and revolutionary war also included guerrilla warfare, do you want to put them up there with Vietnam? The way I look at Vietnam is this: A LOT of people died in vain because of politics. Here, politics isn't AS conflicting with the mission, and no where near as many soldiers have been killed. Also, we have accomplished something in this war, unlike Vietnam.
m1ndfr34k117 1 year ago
@m1ndfr34k117 Guerrilla war as in, the "insurgents" hide behind civilians, just like the Vietcong hid behind civilians in small villages, and that is why we are going to lose Iraq and Afghanistan. How much do you want to bet as soon as we pull out, there's going to be a huge civil war between the Sunnis and the Shiites, and any ounce of progress we have made in that country would go to vain because of politics and our shitty war strategy.
Depravedmaniac666 1 year ago
@Depravedmaniac666 Have you ever taken an AP history class? If you have, you'd have learned that cause and effect are more important than the details. Who cares about tactics when we're talking about the big picture. That being said, we are doing better with the guerrilla warfare than we did in Vietnam. I am with you on the fact that we shouldn't have pulled out though because that is counter-productive to everything we've done so far. We may not have the best strategy, but I don't see you...
m1ndfr34k117 1 year ago
@Depravedmaniac666 ... coming up with a new one. It is a different war to fight, but one that needs to be fought. It is slow, tedious, and many don't like that, but slow and steady is the only way to win. Politics are getting in the way though, but that's true for almost any civilization in history.
m1ndfr34k117 1 year ago
@m1ndfr34k117 "I am with you on the fact that we shouldn't have pulled out though"
Wait, I when I said as soon as we pull out, and everything will turn into a bigger shithole than it already is, I implied that we shouldn't of been there in the first place.
"We may not have the best strategy, but I don't see you comming up with a new one"
No one has to. Ever heard of the phillipines and how we won there? Cruelty. Ever heard of japan, 1945 Hiroshima, and Nagasaki?
Depravedmaniac666 1 year ago
@Depravedmaniac666 Okay, so now your contradicting yourself. You say you want us to stay but not go in the first place? And clearly we cannot do this today, not only would the UN have a cow (although I personally think they can go screw themselves) but this war is no where close to the scale of WWII. In WWII, we were pushed into doing whatever got the job done and we also had a clear enemy. Here, it is more vague and we aren't to the point of going to such extremes. We were cruel to the enemy.
m1ndfr34k117 1 year ago
@m1ndfr34k117 I never ever said at one point during this debate that we should have gone over seas, or remain there. I've also never implied it. We should have nuked the fuckers after they attacked us and stayed out of Iraq. Vague it may be, but you've got consider something. It costs a lot to keep that occupation going over there. Not only that but we're creating more enemies. Is it safe for me to imply that you want a war we're never going to win and have all the soldiers die in vain?
Depravedmaniac666 1 year ago
@Depravedmaniac666 I never said you did, but you did imply that you think it would be better to have stayed there to finish the job, on purpose or not. Here's why that wouldn't work, we nuke them, EVERYBODY hates us now. In addition, we would be killing countless civilians. That's like America having a radical Christian group who goes around bombing abortion clinics in Russia, and then them launching a nuke at us. It isn't entirely the governments fault for one extremist groups' actions.
m1ndfr34k117 1 year ago
@m1ndfr34k117 "That's like America having a radical Christian group who goes around bombing abortion clinics in Russia, and them etc."
Ok, but when it comes to invading an entire country and killing countless civilians, and creating conflicts that never end you've got no problem with that? If Russia were to occupy us do you think us Americans not involved would submit to their new government? Secondly the reason we invaded Afghanistan is because the Taliban supported Al Queda.
Depravedmaniac666 1 year ago
@Depravedmaniac666 That's the problem. Knowing who's the enemy and who's not.
m1ndfr34k117 1 year ago
@m1ndfr34k117 Thus we overthrew that government, and now we are trying to force our way of life on them that will never work. The only thing our current enemy respects is brute force.
"Here's why that wouldn't work, we nuke them, EVERYBODY hates us now"
Who cares? The most important thing is that everyone fears us, and then our enemies would realize that if they try that shit on us once more, there little Jihad is going to end in a nuclear oblivion, none of our lives lost.
Depravedmaniac666 1 year ago
I look at this vid and I actually see what I've seen fighting for this country. I mean seriousely. All kinds of companies from different countries are profiting from this country and war. If any soldier, or civilian contracter can't see this. Then you need to really look into your common sense. So if your thinking about defending America. Be prepared to defend yourself from backstabbing, lying, some lazy, faggots! If you don't believe me. Then join and see for yourself.
boxerboy83 1 year ago
@boxerboy83 Yeah, companies are supposed to profit. There was profit in WWII, so I guess that was an unjust war too, right? But anyways, what do you mean by backstabbing?
dubya68 1 year ago
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TheSandman5050 1 year ago
When you go to a recruiter and start to do paper work for entry to the DEP they don't hide the fact that death is a possibility,or that you may get stuck on a longer tour or that you might not get the MOS you wanted everything is laid out very clearly and they still voluntarily serve the country to protect anti America anti military pussy's like the people that make these ads. Well the marines do at least. Haha jk
TheMarinecorps2011 1 year ago
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@TheMarinecorps2011
You are so ignorant and uneducated that all you could be used for is as cannon fodder.
trakkaton 1 year ago
@trakkaton You are so ignorant and uneducated that all you could be used for is a couple of lulz while listening to your shitty music and laughing at your inept ability to understand economics.
dubya68 1 year ago
@dubya68
That's a sharp turn around from stating that I am right as you did right here.
trakkaton 1 year ago
It's funny cause it's true!
justintrayford 1 year ago
Not to come off as an ignorant right-wing asshole, but who, in America, has made any profit off of Iraq or Afghanistan? Only (around) 10% of the oil in Iraq is owned by American oil companies and the only currently tapped resource in Afghanistan is opium and marijuana. All of the drug money is going to the Taliban and the mineral deposits are largely ignored and/or being mined by the Chinese or local warlords.
dubya68 1 year ago
@dubya68 Um, ever heard of Halliburton and Blackwater?
fallingrocks 1 year ago 10
@fallingrocks Too bad Halliburton and Blackwater make up a fraction of the total business profits. Once again, a majority of the oil is owned by foreign companies. There is no way that "America" is profiting off of Iraq or Afghanistan. The only people truly profiting are arms companies/military industrial complex, but hell, they profit off of every conflict. I'm not saying that Iraq was justified but to say that we invaded so we could get our hands on oil holds no ground.
dubya68 1 year ago
@fallingrocks blackwater was renamed Xe in February 2009
collieoVTEC 1 year ago
@fallingrocks Blackwater, now XE, is not allowed over there anymore
rljbc36 1 year ago
@dubya68
You come off as an ignorant right-wing asshole.
Weapons: Boeing, Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics, Raytheon, etc.
No bid contracts: Haliburton, KBR, Blackwater, etc.
Drugs: CIA, NSA, etc.
Drug money laundering: Goldman Sachs and the banksters gang
Oil: is stolen unmetered. Do you know what the word "unmetered" means?
Surveillance, assassinations, etc. for the fascist regime of the US.
Capiche?
trakkaton 1 year ago
@trakkaton Yeah, lets not make money off of the war so we won't have any when the war is over. Yeah, because not having money is the moral way to go about things. While we're at it, lets all abolish the government and live in one giant hippie commune.
dubya68 1 year ago
@dubya68
Ooh, quickly changing rationalizations now. First the US pretends to commit the war crime of destroying Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Pakistan, Yemen, Iran, Vietnam, etc. etc. for human rights (while ignoring them), getting rid of dictators (while installing them), finding WMDs (while using them), but then suddenly affluent chauvinistic scumfucks like you who beat to death anyone who grabs their purse rationalize it's OK to rape kids and torture women in order to make some cash. JUST DIE!
trakkaton 1 year ago
@trakkaton Ooh lie about history, we haven't installed dictators, the only people who think we're abusing rights are those who can't see any humanitarian effort going on, we haven't used a WMD since WWII. Yeah, because the Taliban, the Somali terrorists, Islamic terrorists, and Saddam were all just rosy with the human rights deal. America isn't perfect by any means, but to trash us like we're some evil empire while we make an effort to help people is ignorant at best and retarded at worst.
dubya68 1 year ago
@dubya68
You know, we can go on forever like this: You babble some nonsense, and I debunk you to the fullest, but as soon as you've lost an argument, you start to babble some new nonsense. You are too dumb to understand that you are too dumb.
"We haven't installed dictators" - except Saddam Hussein, the Shah, Pinochet, etc. Not talking about Papa Doc, Baby Doc, Mubarak, Montt, Fahd, Botha, Abacha, Somoza, Batista, Mobuto, Marcos, Pol Pot, Hassan II, Trujillos, etc.
SHUT UP YOU MINDCRIPPLE!!!
trakkaton 1 year ago
@trakkaton You win, I still support the troops and all that, but you win.
dubya68 1 year ago
@dubya68
That doesn't make any sense. Either you understand that you're wrong, then you have to change. Or you are too dumb to understand it. But you can't say that you're wrong and still won't man up to the consequences.
trakkaton 1 year ago
@trakkaton So supporting the troops is supporting the actions of the government? The troops are the ones making the decisions to support dictators and stuff? Let me guess, the troops decided to go to Vietnam specifically to kill babies.
dubya68 1 year ago
@dubya68
So supporting the hitmen is supporting the mafia? So supporting the cameraman of the child porn is supporting the child porn producer? Don't even try to tell me you're too stupid to figure that one out. And I also know that everyone knows that you don't need to plan and decide far in advance to be guilty. Actually the failure to make a decision in sufficient. Common sense. The one who hits a kid driving home drunk didn't have to plan it last year. Don't tell me you're that stupid.
trakkaton 1 year ago
@trakkaton Most people join the military because they want to defend their country/family/way of life. I'm not gonna say that it's the only way to do that but that's what people with basic reasoning believe. You don't just have an impact on the world by sitting around and whining or making music, you do it by taking up arms and fighting. Some people like how they aren't persecuted in America and that's why they join. You wouldn't know because you haven't had to fight for anything in your life
dubya68 1 year ago
@dubya68
How many more fallacies and logical flaws are you going to present? When a hitmen joins the mafia because the mafia protects him, family values and the church does that make it right? Do the good intentions of an SS officer who shoots civilians randomly count? Are you capable of logic? Are you capable of answering specific questions instead of evading the topic? Can you name an example where mass murder ever solved a problem, your hate for the arts aside? Do you know anything about me?
trakkaton 1 year ago
@trakkaton Yes I am capable of answering specific questions. Yes if a hitman joins the mafia (because they protect him) he is supporting them, no the SS is different from normal military functions (in past history) because they were built on the principles of Hitler and had no good intentions in the first place. Yes, mass murder did solve a problem, it solved the problem of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. I don't hate the "arts" since that is objective.
dubya68 1 year ago
@dubya68
The drivel that you post me just escapes me. "I don't hate the "arts" since that is objective." - Can someone come up with a more nonsensical sentence like that? I mean, that even tops your general thought that geing a psychopathic serial killer is far more productive that creating highly complex architectures of sound.
Btw you know absolutely NOTHING about history. The US supported Nazi Germany. Before, during and after the war. Ford. Thyssen. Paperclip. Prescott BuSSh. Get a clue.
trakkaton 1 year ago
@trakkaton The "ARTS" thing is because anything that's art can be perceived a different way. The music that you make is shit IMO, but you probably think that Bathory makes terrible music, so an opinion is an opinion.
dubya68 1 year ago
@dubya68
Every military (i.e. gang of shameless mass murderers) is based on the principle that they themselves are "the good guys" while their enemies are "the bad guys". To imply to the contrary just shows that you have no understanding of history or psychology whatsoever. The SS was based on Hitler's principles? No shit, Sherlock! What does that have to do with the topic? How does that prove whether Hitler or the SS thought that they are "the good guys"? And don't you know what an analogy is?
trakkaton 1 year ago
@trakkaton Yeah, I know the US-Nazi connection. Nobody had any 100 percent reliable intel on the holocaust until the invasion of Germany. Yeah, people were fleeing, but people flee China and N. Korea even though they don't commit genocide on a regular basis.
dubya68 1 year ago
@dubya68 You are so uninformed about who is making money from the wars. Most of the money made in Iraq at the moment is made by America and not from drugs, although the CIA run Taliban are doing a good job of making a lot from that. But the American companies who are sent there to rebuild what's been destroyed. There are more contractors in Iraq that soldiers and they get paid 3x as much as the soldiers do, and there not subject to ANY American or Iraqi laws and are better equipped.
DreamsCatcher101 1 year ago
@DreamsCatcher101 Oh my fucking God, no shit Sherlock. A company makes money or it doesn't exist. There's a demand for these services. Connect the dots. If a hurricane strikes and a company profits off of repairs then who gives a shit? Oh I guess these companies are pushing "global warming" in order to create more hurricanes.
dubya68 1 year ago
@dubya68 United States does not belons to Americans, While the country is falling in debts and corruption, some private groups will benefits from this like private company, banks, etc. Americans are pawns to be played with, and its alright because they demand it.
Sinomis 1 year ago
@dubya68 well you could argue that HAILIBERTON has made a real killing off the US AND the UK armed forces in IRAQ..$2.50 for a can of coke ring any bells?)
grahamkeithtodd 1 year ago
Whoever the liberal retard is that made this video should get the hell out of this country, especially if you can't respect or fail to see what the military has done and continues doing for you.
Smokex52 1 year ago
@Smokex52
"The military" is a bunch of hitmen that extorts money from the public through "taxes" to murder millions of innocent people for the profit of a gang of rich fucks. They all need to be executed for their crimes against humanity. They are the scum of the earth.
trakkaton 1 year ago
@trakkaton Yep, America is totally getting rich off of this. OOOH HALIBURTONZ IZ MAKINGZ ZEH MONIES!!! Too bad both of the wars are draining us of money.
dubya68 1 year ago
@dubya68
Your problem is that you stil don't understand the most basic property of the political system of the US. "The draining" that you refer to happens to the pockets of the majority of the people, stealing their money through bubbles, scams, inflation, protection money ("taxes"), etc. That is socializing costs. The profits, on the other hand, are privatized. So to balance the two shows pretty well how fundamental your lack of understanding is.
trakkaton 1 year ago
@trakkaton The reason we have private companies like Blackwater is to shift some of the burden from the government. We aren't Soviet Russia where everything is done by the state. Yes, unfortunately the government does fuck us over financially, and I'm in favor of a national flat tax and a return to the gold standard. At least those would force our government to wisely manage our money instead of mindlessly printing more and scamming us with these bailouts.
dubya68 1 year ago
@dubya68
So you contiue on with your trollbot rants and haven't even been able to understand the one basic point of the comment you "reply" to is: That you suck at math in a fundamental way. Evasion tactics by a peabrain.
trakkaton 1 year ago
@trakkaton Tell me what you want me to answer and I will. I will answer every question you want me to answer, I don't really feel like going through a half-page of two-way shit throwing comments.
dubya68 1 year ago
@dubya68
See, there's the problem: You are too lazy to read. You even state that as a fact. I might add that you are too lazy to entertain any serious though longer than your short attention span. That's fine, but then please refrain from telling everyone about your "opinion", if your "opinion" is based on ignorance and laziness.
trakkaton 1 year ago
@trakkaton See there's a problem: you can't solidify your argument. Everything I say is either bad or you act like I was responding to an unrelated comment and then claim I'm lazy or retarded. You must be a troll since you insinuated that your "music" is complex. Anyways since you won't have a coherent argument and will not have a solid basis for any of your claims, then I've declared myself as the winner of this comment battle. BTW, don't even say that I think the US is infallible.
dubya68 1 year ago
@dubya68
If this would be a battle you would be dead before you hear the shot. It's YOU yourself who claimed that you are too lazy to read my comments. Just because you are too lazy to read doesn't mean my arguments aren't solid. If you are frustrated with your lazyness (as you yourself stated), or with being wrong (as you yourself stated), with having poor knowledge of histoy or with your lack of logic don't suddenly blame ME for it. Man up and take responsibility.
trakkaton 1 year ago
@trakkaton See, you won't even respond to my comment. I read your comments and responded to them and then you responded by bringing up unrelated arguments or just plain attack me. When I say "we have companies like Blackwater to shift some of the burden off of the Government/We aren't the U.S.S.R. where everything is done by the state." You then call me a trollbot. There is no mature response there just plain trolling.
dubya68 1 year ago
@dubya68
Are you making fun of yourself or are you honestly saying that you don't understand why I don't relate to comments that do not relate to my comments? The two sentences you quoted have ABSOLUTELY - N*O*T*H*I*N*G - to do with the topic. They're misplaced tautologies, a strange conglomerate of fallacies. Offtopic. Nonsensical. You somehow think that the corporations are NOT sucking everyone dry, making huge profits that everyone else pays for because - the US is not the USSR. Idiot. E T C
trakkaton 1 year ago
@trakkaton Um the corporations wouldn't exist if they sucked everyone dry. Are you an anarchist or communist? It just seems extremely retarded that you don't understand basic capitalism. If people don't make money or prosper, then the corporations wouldn't exist and the government would be even more broke than it is now. That is why the U.S.S.R. failed, that's why Cuba is failing, and that's why China is using capitalism (especially in Hong Kong) to make loads of money. This is all fact.
dubya68 1 year ago
@dubya68
Oh, this is so tiring. Do you really have to bother me with the silly LaLa-Land you live in, changing the topic every time you are proven wrong, bringing up one new nonsense that is even more absurd than the last one? "the corporations wouldn't exist if they sucked everyone dry. " - That's as meaningful as "the mafia wouldn't exist if they sucked everyone dry." Ever heard of billionaires and sweatshop slaves? 50% of humans living from 1$ a day? Have you been in a coma - since birth?
trakkaton 1 year ago
@trakkaton Have you heard that people in third world countries that have dismal economies benefit from getting 1 dollar a day? Sweatshops may not have the high standards that your office space has, but it sure is a lot better than working on a shitty third world farm with rusty/dangerous equipment. Once again, your argument is based on twisted communist (I know, cliche, right?) logic. Why isn't there a revolt in every country with these so-called "sweatshops"? It's because it improves lives.
dubya68 1 year ago
What's the scene where those dudes are firing SAWS into the air?
Nice vid :D
LOLCaatz 1 year ago
Welcome to the United Corporations of America formerly known as the USA
War is when you fight to win. A declaration of war hasn't been made. We are in a perpetual state of the people, citizens of the USA paying to protect the global corporation’s interests in other parts of the world all under a false pretense of rehabilitating the population of third world countries, many of whom are criminal and murderers etc.
jtmiami07 1 year ago
not really sure what trakkaton is trolling about, but all I have to say is 90% of US servicemen actually are good people, being that I know many who have served. Stop hating the soldiers, I hate the war just like everyone else here, but it isnt the soldiers' faults
poonkinator 1 year ago
@poonkinator
1. I'm not a German, you zombie fuckhead. Learn to think.
2. My profile is antifascist, you zombie fuckhead. Learn to read.
3. No more fallacies needed from your side, no more distractions, changing the topic, etc. Learn to stop.
Or rather: Learn to learn.
trakkaton 1 year ago
@trakkaton LOL learn to think? Learn to read? Your profile READS that you are from Germany so I'm not the only one to THINK that you're German. And you are the last person on earth to tell ME to stop using fallacies. I NEVER changed the topic. you said that Im advocating genocide by supporting my troops. Logical Fallacy (Assuming two unrelated things are connected without legitimate evidence). So being that your profile reads that you are from Germany, I told you not to accuse me of genocide
poonkinator 1 year ago
@trakkaton And also, "zombie fuckhead?" Its not witty, funny, or even a good insult. Which is an example of yet ANOTHER logical fallacy YOU continue to use. Insulting ME PERSONALLY rather than my argument. How about you go back to Germany or where ever youre from and leave the educated people to run MY country(one you're not even from in the first place)
poonkinator 1 year ago
@poonkinator
1. Caling you a "zombie fuckhead" isn't an insult, it is a description: You are unable to think on your own, instead you parrot gov propaganda the tv fed into your empty, fucked brain and make it look like it's something original. Learn to read.
2. The profile of the BAND that you hastily read states that the BAND is located in Germany. You idiot don't even graps how many false assumptions you're making. 4. You are advocating genocide, shall I cite?
trakkaton 1 year ago
@trakkaton lol first of all how the fuck was I supposed to know it was a band dumbass lol. And obviously I do think on my own...and I do read, I DONT WATCH CNN or any other bullshit government controlled stations so I agree with you how the government has the ability to spread lies. the Iraq war: 1. doesn't really have ANYTHING to do with you, so why do you even care...2. its your OPINION that we are there for the wrong reason, you can't PROVE that we are there for wrong reasons
poonkinator 1 year ago
@poonkinator
3. Unfortunately there is a definition of what a "troll" is. It is people who start drama with unfounded hyperboles, who never enter an actual debate becasue they use fallacies all the time and continously change the topic. Just like you did, when you denied the Iraqi body count, then you're proven wrong with the Lancet study, then you change the topic. Or you claim that war crimes are for freedom, and are debunked every time you deliver another gov slogan.
trakkaton 1 year ago
@trakkaton second of all I have NOT changed the subject ONCE in this debate, nor have used anywhere NEAR as many fallacies as you. One fallacy you are using right now is how you are AVOIDING my point that you have used said fallacies after I have pointed them out. At least I actually DISCUSS my so called "fallacies" with you. So think again before you call out logical fallacies on ME
poonkinator 1 year ago
@trakkaton honestly though when it all comes down to it, you're just making an ass of yourself. I'm just laughin my ass off everytime you post, and I know pretty much everyone else on this discussion board XD. Seriously NO ONE CARES what you have to say, so feel free to get the last word in...I wont be here to reply and fuel your trolling. Have a wonderful day ;)
poonkinator 1 year ago
All you people really need to learn abound real life.
CSXRockford 1 year ago
since when can men become pregnant???????????
skyman2002fanclub 1 year ago
I LOVE THIS!!!!!!!
coolsteven2 1 year ago