Love the last note on Elvis's "Way Down" recorded at Graceland on Elvis's last album. Elvis presented JD with a car after his work on the recording sessions!
Well people,, I can settle all your problems and crappy mouths. How many records did JD Sumner publish??? The Sunny South Quartet, Sunshine Boys, Blackwood Brothers, Stamps, Elvis, and The Masters V. How many have you published. You need to follow Thumpers mothers advice. "If you dont have anything nice to say, Dont say anything" . We should all be thankful for the legacy he and many others have left us instead if arguing about who was the greatest. There was only one greatest!!! Jesus Christ!
@mistertitanic Sumner doesn't use fry. He's a legitimate freak of nature. Riley is a constricted high bass/low baritone who uses fry in the lower 1st octave where JD still hits 'em in chest. You say JD "whispers" low notes. Guess what? That's because he's still in chest when he hits C1's. Riley's lows sound like loud farts because he's using vocal fry.
J.D. does have a low range but listen to how breathy he is on the low end. Listen to Tim Riley for a while and come back to J.D. Tim is, by far, the strongest bass in the lower range who enunciates the words also. J.D. is very breathy and George Younce just makes low sounds in the microphone when he get to his lower notes. They are all great singers but that's why Tim is my all time favorite bass singer. If you disagree listen to both back and forth then determine if this is true!
J.D. does have a low range but listen to how breathy he is on the low end. Listen to Tim Riley for a while and come back to J.D. Tim is, by far, the strongest bass in the lower range who enunciates the words also. J.D. is very breathy and George Younce just makes low sounds in the microphone when he get to his lower notes. They are all great singers but that's why Tim is my all time favorite bass singer. If you disagree listen to both back and forth then determine if this is true!
I can hit the notes, but I think I still sound too "young"; however, I'm sure more richness will come with age. I couldn't even hit some of those notes a year ago.
@TheMannyStyles Bass notes only get better with age. Notice this guy is 40/50. If you keep training it you can definitely get some sound down there. Just make sure you don't lose your upper range while your at it because then you're effectively useless to lots of pieces of music :)
@TheMannyStyles I'm a bass singer myself and from what I've been told a male's voice doesn't fully mature until his 30's. I would agree with the comments to not lose your upper range as it is nice to sing unison and hit some higher notes to make the lower ones sound even better.
@0044austin Low G, as in G2 or G1? G2 is the usual low G you have in choir bass parts and G1 is the "sound" JD Sumner makes when humming into a microphone (which isn't really singing in my honest opinion...). If it's G2 you're talking about, it's not really low, most baritones and even some tenors can hit a G2 and be heard just fine. I'm a baritone/tenor and can sing F2 without a mike and be heard fine. If you can sing a G1 though, it's a whole new story ! Impressive though, I gotta say...
@wakkowarer9007 I rehearse in a room alone with a high output stereo. Find several songs you know very well, and sing them at full voice with the tracts. I can cut the vocals out individually, so I cut the bass vocal and sing. I don't use JD much. He is the Basement Man, I generally use Tim Riley because of his tremendous range. The key, to me, is breath control. The lower in register the more force is required to project. A flat is about as low as I comfortably able to consistantly hit.
@Tompetty1970 It usually is : when you're taller, you have a larger vocal tract, so you make lower sound, (in general. It's like comparing a violin and a cello : bigger sound box = lower frequencies. Being able to make low notes also depends on your capacity to make your vocal chords thicker (to make them vibrate slower), so body size isn't the only factor, though a good indicator. Cheers
dude, allow me to make it real easy for you to distinguish between jd's vocals and the bass guitar....the bass guitar is hitting the really high notes
with the bass in my headset itfeels like my brian is rattleing. . . i had to turn it so far down i had to listen really hard to hear him lol. so i just gave up and took out my headphones ad listened that way.
@bigmrclean im sure if he were here in person it would not be so impressive being the note produced dont have a lot of volume to them. well the ability of being able to yes but not the volume.
Between 1956-1963 nobody could touch JD. Live or recorded.There was no mics to cup. You had to lean in and sing. Nobody has been able to sing as he did as of yet. He sang lower than London live or recorded.
my dad has read the book by JD many times and saw the "show down" i guess you could say between JD and London it was awesome he says i wish we could have been there to see it!
i agree if you mean consistent by getting out in front of a "live audience" and battling another bass man on man. London paris was really the only other bass i know that even tried to take jd on. again i'm not saying he was the best, only the lowest with a live audience competing head to head with other basses. i also did not think jd had the best sound, but i thought he hit the low note without searching for it remarkably well. someone can correct me but he also wrote hundreds of songs.
J.D. had to cup the mic with his hands to make it sound louder... i would hardly call him a singer... listen to Isaac from the fairfield Four if you want to hear a bass singer.....
no one was lower than jd period. i remember back when they had the challenge of the bass singers at the sgm concerts in 50's and 60's and most of the basses wouldn't even challenge jd and he won them all, this was live and not in some studio when well rested. he had throat problems in mid life and had to take off singing for awhile which is when richard sterban took his place, and when he came back he was never the same quality. younce was my favorite singer, but jd was consistently the lowest.
Ole J.D. is still giving singing lessons, man what a thrill . Alas, I believe I see Paul David Kennamer stirring around in the back as he goes to fetch J.D. a glass of water to cool his monsterous pipes !
1) mmm.. I really think this is a glottal phonation with restricted air stream... in other words Creaky voice.
This creaky voice can be vocal fry (or slow down the voice like you usually say) or strohbass. Strohbass register is actually alot like falsetto for the lowest notes. It basically uses a tense, depressed larynx to emit extremely low pitches--up to about a 5th below the person's regular range limit.
As I understand it, the reverse falsetto reaches down to 1/3 of the lowest modal frequency.
I've heard J.D. speak and it's very, very low. I can't find the video right now but it's on youtube somewhere, called "Best bass vocals" or something where he talks at the end, and it's damn low.
I can agree that it sounds a bit fryish in Wayfaring, but in this video, it's much softer - I really can't imagine it to be anything else but modal.
On the other hand his C#1 in Rainbow of Love is terrible...
reverse falsetto?... you mean a falsetto inhaling air?... wow... I didn't know that was possible in low falsetto. I can do that with high falsetto. jejejeje... evereyday one can learn something new :)
I listened to that songs (Rainbow of Love and One By One) and they are great :D
well... I really believed that this is fry and strohbass... but if you say that J.D. talks so damn low in his modal voice...
By reverse falsetto I meant that the vestibular folds, instead of vibrating at double or triple the modal frequency, they vibrate at 1/2 or 1/3 the modal frequency. This is strohbass, or whatever you want to call it. PDK uses it, I'm not sure if he breaths in our out though, I've heard people say both.
I've been looking for the video where he talks but haven't found it sorry, :/
3) In the clip "JD Sumner - Wayfaring Stranger" on youtube... you can see that he clearly need to get close to the mic in order to sound well in the lower tones (sorry for my english, I'm doing my best xD). This demostrates that J.D. couldn't sing those low low notes in his modal voice (or full voice)... because it's resonance and power decreases a lot when singing in the 2nd and 1st octaves...
I think this video is awsome.JD,George Yaunce and Tim Reiley are my favs.Ising bass also but cant hardly get the lowest note JD can hit.Thnx for the video
I'm not sure why people like J.D so much, his voice isn't particularly clear, he's pitchy here and there, and the songs he sings are mostly religious hence crap.
I've never heard a bass singer who seems to have such an easy time reaching low notes. But then again, JD's speaking voice sounded like a G1 or something.
JD with out a doubt is a legend. I can sing pretty low, and not acually met anyone who can sing lower but Jd with any trouble can sing at least an half octive lower. That makes him a legend alone, you will probably never meet anyone who can do what he was able to do.
Cougar3333 is right on!!! JD was/is the best bass in Gospel history. He wrote hundreds of songs, got the Guinness record, sang bass for the Blackwood Bros., Stamps Quartet, which he owned, Masters V, backup for Elvis, etc., etc.
Its not about what notes you can hit, its how you hit them. Counter tenor to bass profondo doesnt matter, its if the singer has volume, power, diction, dynamics legato etc. Thats what makes a great singer.
Real basses dont use vocal fry, they can sing deep in full voice. And if you think the best bass is the lowest one,you have a pretty narrow view of music. But whatever, I'm over it.
this is why music is good because you have your views and i have mine. I don't think this is vocal fry. I have heard a lot of gospel basses and most of them do fry, i will agree with you their, thats usually the last note or 1 deep note of a song. He sings down their the whole time. Enjoyed the discussion though and maybe i do have a narrow view but to say he is not a real bass. JD is a monster bass he is one of the deepest singers to walk the earth. Do not insult his legacy .
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Have you watched the video in the related videos toolbar here called "JD & the Stamps - Ole Brother Noah". It shows JD singing without a microphone, and yeah, he has a fine bass voice. I like it a lot. So yeah I agree he is a legend. But do you also notice he is singing no where near as low as he is here (and higher than Paul Robeson). And do you also notice his timbre is totally different? And do you notice his voice has no crackeling in that range? The reason - he is using vocal fry in anytime
I know what you can do with a microphone because i sing bass alway to to Ab 1, but he is not frying this notes. The reason his voice is crackling is because he smoked. The volume and the hitting of the note are clearer than that of a vocal fry
agian, a microphone is giving him this volume. If you think I dont know what I am talking about just look at my channel, I know more than a thing or two about bass voices. Tenderness6 also agreed with me about the vocal fry here, and he is a classically trained bass singer (see his comment below). But using fry is common for gospal basses, if you wanna here a real bass try opera, choral octivists or someone like Paul Robeson.
Ok i am pretty sure jd sumnner sings a lot deeper bass and can but out more volume in the deeper register. Those two are different breeds of basses. Jd is a basso profondo and roberson is more of a baritone bass. I also studied music in college and i must say yes Paul has a nice voice, but he isn't a deep bass like jd. Yes he has a deep voice and can probably sing down to about C2 or B1 but hey jd constantly sings C2 and lower down to C1 in his songs.
Singing that deep anyone would need a mic and I am sure Paul since he is a real bass could sing this song better just as deep. HA i bet he could hit half the notes.
He said baritone making use of a vocal fry (to become a low bass). The best bass isnt the one who can hit the lowest notes anyway. But compare JD to Vladimir Miller, he can get into this super low range WITHOUT a microphone. Bottom line, if you wanna here a true bass, your wasting your time with gospal singers. Give me a microphone and I match all these notes (even though I'm a baritone), but take it away and I couldnt match Robeson.
you couldn't match this notes, you probably can't sing past c2 maybe you can, but listen jd sumner did accomplished more in music than vladimir miller and how do you know how loud jd can sing when he is low did you ever hear him in person. I been the opra route it offers music for basses who can't sing deep, gospel music not only gives u a chance to worship, but to sing comfortably. Don't trash my kind of music because I can start trashing what I think of you puny opra basses
I hope you can match roberson's notes bc they are not deep at all. I like to see you sing this song so I can laugh at you bc I don't think you could sing the first note
please, go ahead. But I wouldnt trash any music, all has something to offer, this does, but it wont tell you anything about true bass singing. Operatic basses dont sing as low as this, but they do project over orchestras. I dont know how loud JD could sing else where, but here, where he uses vocal fry, it couldnt prject into the next room without a microphone. How do I know that, try a vocal fry yourself and you will see. But do you even know who vladimir miller is? and have you ever heard him?
Well, Miller is still quite a young man, his career is far from over, so he still can accomplish a lot in life. But JD and Miller are into very different kinds of music. Miller is a Russian basso profondo from Sibiria singing russian folk songs and religious orthodox hymns. It's rather unfair to compare them. I gotta say I like them both. It is possible you know!
Show me a clip where he isnt using vocal fry and is in this range. And I know what a vocal fry sounds like. Obviously you dont, plus, classically trained people agree with me.
Yeah but who listens to them? why not listen to the music on here or click the x in the corner. Why bring your negativity to this page? You seem to keep coming back, do you like the singing or just need to be right? Go away already.
But that goes for most bass-singers. Because of the low frequency it's harder to produce a good volume. Just try to shout out in a low voice. Nearly as loud as when you should with a higher voice (that's also why sirens are pitched high).
I totally agree with you. He is a baritone doing vocal fry; I know that I am not making friends but I sang bass airs myself and I am familiar with many, many bass singers from the past and they have quite a different timbre.
"..The vocal fry register is the lowest vocal register and is produced through a loose glottal closure which will permit air to bubble through with a popping or rattling sound of a very low frequency. The chief use of vocal fry in singing is to obtain pitches of very low frequency which are not available in modal voice. This register may be used therapeutically to improve the lower part of the modal register and is not used that often in singing, but (...) male quartet pieces"
not really true. The last part of a word (like in "...Any-where..") made by lowered by 'using' vocal fry. But as soon as there are sentences or more than one word, it's actual singing.
You can look up 'fry' in wikipedia for more info on this.
my woofers are vibrating like mad
shaftsbury94 1 month ago
@shaftsbury94 Seriously? Your woofers still works?:)) Mine is hoarse.
TheRavenLord13 1 week ago
Love the last note on Elvis's "Way Down" recorded at Graceland on Elvis's last album. Elvis presented JD with a car after his work on the recording sessions!
paulreno1 3 months ago
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ZombiesAteMySanity 3 months ago
Well people,, I can settle all your problems and crappy mouths. How many records did JD Sumner publish??? The Sunny South Quartet, Sunshine Boys, Blackwood Brothers, Stamps, Elvis, and The Masters V. How many have you published. You need to follow Thumpers mothers advice. "If you dont have anything nice to say, Dont say anything" . We should all be thankful for the legacy he and many others have left us instead if arguing about who was the greatest. There was only one greatest!!! Jesus Christ!
LPKING47 5 months ago in playlist J. D. Sumner 5
¿Algún cantante en español canta así de bajo?
javiergrosso66 5 months ago
J.D. Sumner's voice was recorded on the Richter Scale.
BapticostalFreak 6 months ago 7
Does it really matter who we think was "he best"? What does matter is the message that each of the bass singers dearly loved to share with us.
mrstoopidd 9 months ago 2
The Strongest Bass In SGM Today Is Jeff Chapman,He Can Sing Dynamic Low Notes With out Groweling And Chokeing The Microphone.
thedavidrollins 11 months ago
Without a doubt, Tim Riley is MUCH better. This guy simply wispers low notes and struggles to go low. Tim Riley now....wow.
mistertitanic 11 months ago
@mistertitanic This guy can go way lower than Tim Riley.He used to have the world record for having the lowest voice in the world
fuitbag 10 months ago
@fuitbag In every song I've heard him, Tim beats him.
mistertitanic 10 months ago
@mistertitanic Tim has a horribly generic voice and uses vocal fry for loads of his low notes.
CuriosityRoads 9 months ago
@CuriosityRoads NO WAY does he use vocal fry. Sumner does. He sounds horriblw singing that low. Tim sings it with ease.
mistertitanic 9 months ago
@mistertitanic Sumner doesn't use fry. He's a legitimate freak of nature. Riley is a constricted high bass/low baritone who uses fry in the lower 1st octave where JD still hits 'em in chest. You say JD "whispers" low notes. Guess what? That's because he's still in chest when he hits C1's. Riley's lows sound like loud farts because he's using vocal fry.
CuriosityRoads 9 months ago
@CuriosityRoads Whatever you say. I think sumner sounds terrible. And TIm doesn't sound like farts. He sounds amazing.
mistertitanic 9 months ago
@mistertitanic maybe u like listing to farts?
computer0nerd 9 months ago
@computer0nerd No not at all really. I find them quite crude. I don't find any humor in toilet humor.
mistertitanic 9 months ago
J.D. does have a low range but listen to how breathy he is on the low end. Listen to Tim Riley for a while and come back to J.D. Tim is, by far, the strongest bass in the lower range who enunciates the words also. J.D. is very breathy and George Younce just makes low sounds in the microphone when he get to his lower notes. They are all great singers but that's why Tim is my all time favorite bass singer. If you disagree listen to both back and forth then determine if this is true!
glh104753 1 year ago 4
J.D. does have a low range but listen to how breathy he is on the low end. Listen to Tim Riley for a while and come back to J.D. Tim is, by far, the strongest bass in the lower range who enunciates the words also. J.D. is very breathy and George Younce just makes low sounds in the microphone when he get to his lower notes. They are all great singers but that's why Tim is my all time favorite bass singer. If you disagree listen to both back and forth then determine if this is true!
glh104753 1 year ago
harold couldn't never get that low but the bass of the oakridge boys could come close
rfink63952 1 year ago
@rfink63952 Actually, the bass of The Oak Ridge Boys used to sing with JD and The Stamps back in the 70s when they were singing with Elvis.
herschelzboy 9 months ago
the only person i have heard that can get even close to J.D's voice is harold reid of the statler brothers
dutchmuffin77 1 year ago
justin bieber with a mustache
susanbzr 1 year ago
Where can I buy this? I can't find it anywhere!
mintandlimes 1 year ago
la hostia, parece que se haya tragado un saxo tenor, es increible.
MrDavidSouth 1 year ago
he sounds like a fucking rumbling stomach
hellothereyoungsir 1 year ago
JD Summer your voice is amazing god bless you
chrissoftail 1 year ago
sounds just like me!!! :)
huntinandawhipin 1 year ago
I can hit the notes, but I think I still sound too "young"; however, I'm sure more richness will come with age. I couldn't even hit some of those notes a year ago.
Go JD! RIP!
TheMannyStyles 1 year ago
@TheMannyStyles Bass notes only get better with age. Notice this guy is 40/50. If you keep training it you can definitely get some sound down there. Just make sure you don't lose your upper range while your at it because then you're effectively useless to lots of pieces of music :)
julian1000 1 year ago
@TheMannyStyles I'm a bass singer myself and from what I've been told a male's voice doesn't fully mature until his 30's. I would agree with the comments to not lose your upper range as it is nice to sing unison and hit some higher notes to make the lower ones sound even better.
Living4Him86 1 year ago
@Living4Him86 Wait what? "mature" as in range, or timbre? both?
SumWunGye 1 year ago
wow, that was incredible
GCTubaTim 1 year ago
lol
ZR1Terror 1 year ago
LMAO. search russian basso profondo and listen to the first link
loko2468 1 year ago
@loko2468 Yes, and?
sgtBilko75 1 year ago
@loko2468 damn right!
Gidenkidenk 1 year ago
Mr. Sumner was 6'5" so height must be a factor in voice type
Tompetty1970 1 year ago
@Tompetty1970 i dont think so i'm only 5'9" and i can sing a low g
0044austin 1 year ago
@0044austin Low G, as in G2 or G1? G2 is the usual low G you have in choir bass parts and G1 is the "sound" JD Sumner makes when humming into a microphone (which isn't really singing in my honest opinion...). If it's G2 you're talking about, it's not really low, most baritones and even some tenors can hit a G2 and be heard just fine. I'm a baritone/tenor and can sing F2 without a mike and be heard fine. If you can sing a G1 though, it's a whole new story ! Impressive though, I gotta say...
trudbol 1 year ago
@trudbol yea its a G1 a year ago i could only hit a D2 but i practiced and lowered my voice
0044austin 1 year ago
@0044austin how you practiced? Can you help me? I mean: tell me how you practice.
thanks
wakkowarer9007 1 year ago
@wakkowarer9007 I rehearse in a room alone with a high output stereo. Find several songs you know very well, and sing them at full voice with the tracts. I can cut the vocals out individually, so I cut the bass vocal and sing. I don't use JD much. He is the Basement Man, I generally use Tim Riley because of his tremendous range. The key, to me, is breath control. The lower in register the more force is required to project. A flat is about as low as I comfortably able to consistantly hit.
jalsante75 1 year ago
@Tompetty1970 It usually is : when you're taller, you have a larger vocal tract, so you make lower sound, (in general. It's like comparing a violin and a cello : bigger sound box = lower frequencies. Being able to make low notes also depends on your capacity to make your vocal chords thicker (to make them vibrate slower), so body size isn't the only factor, though a good indicator. Cheers
trudbol 1 year ago
This dude rocks! Very musical bass, not just low notes, a beautiful resonance
svenghoulieil 1 year ago
@TheNStormofJustice well gladly im in high school so way to fuck up
sevd0 1 year ago
@TheNStormofJustice yep well at least im straight
sevd0 1 year ago
All people are born with a gift....his gift is the bass voice. =)
FilipeSR 1 year ago
couldnt he help elvis change his life around?
SuperGraceland 1 year ago
i still wonder if i can go lower...im not sure..
sevd0 1 year ago
@sevd0 ummm very doubtful
johnnyrebelnc 1 year ago
@johnnyrebelnc haha and you dont know me bitch
sevd0 1 year ago
@sevd0 bitch? that woulda been your mother for having such a jerk as a son
johnnyrebelnc 1 year ago
@johnnyrebelnc and that would be a guy acting like a nigger
sevd0 1 year ago
my Grandfather went to church with him!!
computer0nerd 2 years ago 3
JD Sumner has a perfect voice i love him and his songs with Elvis soooo much :)
gokturkseyhan 2 years ago 22
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What bothers me is that the bass guitar follows the vocals pretty much everywhere, meaning it's hard to tell if he's frying or not. Meh.
Jouwl 2 years ago
dude, allow me to make it real easy for you to distinguish between jd's vocals and the bass guitar....the bass guitar is hitting the really high notes
ThePocketsMcgraw 2 years ago 15
They are in the same octave on the low notes, listen carefully.
Jouwl 2 years ago
i was just messin' with ya. i am certain that you know much more about these things than i ever will. thanks for being a good sport.
ThePocketsMcgraw 2 years ago
@ThePocketsMcgraw Good one.
EnchiladaMan360 2 months ago
@ThePocketsMcgraw You're right!
EnchiladaMan360 2 months ago
Best Bass ever!
sauerkrauten 2 years ago 3
Man.. what note does he reach there at the end ? That's seriously low !
muller74 2 years ago 4
That note is a cool smooth D1 !!!
DonSchanteloni 2 years ago 3
He hits a D1 aka Double Low D. 4 notes from the bottom of the piano in chest voice.
biglhot75 2 years ago 2
I had my headphones on and I turned up the volume, suddenly my head was vibrating/
Fooberedo 2 years ago
Does anyone know where I could get this song?
Fooberedo 2 years ago
Please find the lyrics, mostly correct though
Any time Any where - Jesus will be there
He loves you, in all of what you do
He'll go with you anywhere
He'll go with you through the valleys
Every burden he will share
Any time, anywhere, Jesus will be there
He'll go with you through the valleys,
Every burden he will share
Any time, anywhere, Jesus will be there
bhaash 2 years ago
Please,Could someone note the lyrics to me?
He goes so low that I can't understand. And I did not find on web.
TwinLescaux 2 years ago
with the bass in my headset itfeels like my brian is rattleing. . . i had to turn it so far down i had to listen really hard to hear him lol. so i just gave up and took out my headphones ad listened that way.
000ChibiCookie000 2 years ago
@000ChibiCookie000 Im hearing the bass guitar and his voice combined and its vibrating my brain cause I feel a rattling on the inside of my skull!
ChrisisBass13 2 years ago
@ChrisisBass13 LOL!! Yes sir I know the feeling!! lol...My subwoofer is seriously cuttin' up over here.
bigmrclean 2 years ago 2
@bigmrclean im sure if he were here in person it would not be so impressive being the note produced dont have a lot of volume to them. well the ability of being able to yes but not the volume.
electrified302 2 years ago
SH*****T! Never thought that was possible!
jimbap242 2 years ago 2
Between 1956-1963 nobody could touch JD. Live or recorded.There was no mics to cup. You had to lean in and sing. Nobody has been able to sing as he did as of yet. He sang lower than London live or recorded.
Nashville35 2 years ago 14
my dad has read the book by JD many times and saw the "show down" i guess you could say between JD and London it was awesome he says i wish we could have been there to see it!
RonsGurl82488 1 year ago
I'm listening to this with my Skullcrushers and damn the bass just tickles my ears lol.
onimusha542 2 years ago 3
i agree if you mean consistent by getting out in front of a "live audience" and battling another bass man on man. London paris was really the only other bass i know that even tried to take jd on. again i'm not saying he was the best, only the lowest with a live audience competing head to head with other basses. i also did not think jd had the best sound, but i thought he hit the low note without searching for it remarkably well. someone can correct me but he also wrote hundreds of songs.
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J.D. had to cup the mic with his hands to make it sound louder... i would hardly call him a singer... listen to Isaac from the fairfield Four if you want to hear a bass singer.....
revskull 2 years ago
ARE YOU KIDDING MEEEEEEE???!!!!! That's INSANE! WOW!
Wheelsgr 2 years ago 2
Does anone know the title of this song?? Or to get it. Thanks so much.
ERHALT1 2 years ago
I believe the title is mentioned already, and he also sings it right at the start...ANYTIME. Gee whiz, read.
Shadesofblue1988 2 years ago
JD was a low bass but I thought he was gruff sounding. I also thought London Parris had a smoother and better sound.
gloriajean61 2 years ago
agreed... to me, it always sounds like he has to "wisper" the lowest notes...
revskull 2 years ago
i need to find the lyrics to this song so i can sing itQ
DEFFY1 2 years ago
no one was lower than jd period. i remember back when they had the challenge of the bass singers at the sgm concerts in 50's and 60's and most of the basses wouldn't even challenge jd and he won them all, this was live and not in some studio when well rested. he had throat problems in mid life and had to take off singing for awhile which is when richard sterban took his place, and when he came back he was never the same quality. younce was my favorite singer, but jd was consistently the lowest.
paledin3 2 years ago 3
True, he's not the lowest anymore, however he's still probably the most consistent.
Shadesofblue1988 2 years ago 3
I highly doubt it was vocal fry. You cant fake a voice like that. He was truly one of the most gifted singers who ever lived!
cowtippingrocks 2 years ago 4
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It is vocal fry, he use it at some points you can hear it
mttm06 2 years ago
How the hell is that vocal fry?
Shadesofblue1988 2 years ago
Actually...I can hear it too now at certain points.
Shadesofblue1988 2 years ago
Ole J.D. is still giving singing lessons, man what a thrill . Alas, I believe I see Paul David Kennamer stirring around in the back as he goes to fetch J.D. a glass of water to cool his monsterous pipes !
miltmonkey 2 years ago
this is not vocal fry... it's Strohbass :)
JD Sumner rocks! :D
Blackwargreymon 2 years ago
This is actually his modal register.
Jouwl 2 years ago
1) mmm.. I really think this is a glottal phonation with restricted air stream... in other words Creaky voice.
This creaky voice can be vocal fry (or slow down the voice like you usually say) or strohbass. Strohbass register is actually alot like falsetto for the lowest notes. It basically uses a tense, depressed larynx to emit extremely low pitches--up to about a 5th below the person's regular range limit.
Blackwargreymon 2 years ago
As I understand it, the reverse falsetto reaches down to 1/3 of the lowest modal frequency.
I've heard J.D. speak and it's very, very low. I can't find the video right now but it's on youtube somewhere, called "Best bass vocals" or something where he talks at the end, and it's damn low.
I can agree that it sounds a bit fryish in Wayfaring, but in this video, it's much softer - I really can't imagine it to be anything else but modal.
On the other hand his C#1 in Rainbow of Love is terrible...
Jouwl 2 years ago
reverse falsetto?... you mean a falsetto inhaling air?... wow... I didn't know that was possible in low falsetto. I can do that with high falsetto. jejejeje... evereyday one can learn something new :)
I listened to that songs (Rainbow of Love and One By One) and they are great :D
well... I really believed that this is fry and strohbass... but if you say that J.D. talks so damn low in his modal voice...
I'm don't know what to think
But I'm sure of 1 thing..
J.D. Sumner is a beast and rock :D
Blackwargreymon 2 years ago
*ROCKS!! :p
Blackwargreymon 2 years ago
By reverse falsetto I meant that the vestibular folds, instead of vibrating at double or triple the modal frequency, they vibrate at 1/2 or 1/3 the modal frequency. This is strohbass, or whatever you want to call it. PDK uses it, I'm not sure if he breaths in our out though, I've heard people say both.
I've been looking for the video where he talks but haven't found it sorry, :/
Jouwl 2 years ago
there is a fantastic clip of him speaking in this video. I'll post the link
watch?v=7HPUryHzCcQ
Piano451 2 years ago
2) The primary difference between vocal fry and strohbass is that strohbass can be used to actually sing words on pitches.
Besides... I've readed that J.D. didn't sound as super low when he spoke. He used to talk with a "normal" voice...
Blackwargreymon 2 years ago
Also in "One By One", it's very smooth.
Jouwl 2 years ago
3) In the clip "JD Sumner - Wayfaring Stranger" on youtube... you can see that he clearly need to get close to the mic in order to sound well in the lower tones (sorry for my english, I'm doing my best xD). This demostrates that J.D. couldn't sing those low low notes in his modal voice (or full voice)... because it's resonance and power decreases a lot when singing in the 2nd and 1st octaves...
Blackwargreymon 2 years ago
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Blackwargreymon 2 years ago
I think this video is awsome.JD,George Yaunce and Tim Reiley are my favs.Ising bass also but cant hardly get the lowest note JD can hit.Thnx for the video
on2wheels1992 2 years ago
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I'm not sure why people like J.D so much, his voice isn't particularly clear, he's pitchy here and there, and the songs he sings are mostly religious hence crap.
Sorry.
Jouwl 3 years ago
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Hmm I'd like to correct myself - this performance was actually better than his average quality. I actually enjoy this , despite the religious lyrics.
Jouwl 3 years ago
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However, I still think his vibrato ruins everything, it gets pitchy and the note vanishes.
Vibrato fail.
Jouwl 3 years ago
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Stop thumbing me down, faggots.
You know I'm right.
Also, the D1 is awesome.
Jouwl 2 years ago
i met jd sumner and he was and is still the best he was my friend until the end of his life
raw771 3 years ago 3
What a thrill to hear the world's best bass singer....BAR NONE... Most of today's so called "Bass Singers" couldn't carry J.D.'s jockstrap.
miltmonkey 3 years ago 4
Three words: Paul David Kennamer.
bootytooter 3 years ago 5
wow...
vanney15 3 years ago
ROFLCOPTERMAOBBQQLMAO Best male singer ive ever heard, He could be santa claus =D
ForFackSake 3 years ago 5
I've never heard a bass singer who seems to have such an easy time reaching low notes. But then again, JD's speaking voice sounded like a G1 or something.
Bravilor 3 years ago 3
JD with out a doubt is a legend. I can sing pretty low, and not acually met anyone who can sing lower but Jd with any trouble can sing at least an half octive lower. That makes him a legend alone, you will probably never meet anyone who can do what he was able to do.
electrified302 3 years ago 2
Cougar3333 is right on!!! JD was/is the best bass in Gospel history. He wrote hundreds of songs, got the Guinness record, sang bass for the Blackwood Bros., Stamps Quartet, which he owned, Masters V, backup for Elvis, etc., etc.
knowMusicMan 3 years ago
You basses can't sing as deep, didn't sing with elvis. Don't trash our singers and we want trash yours.
Cougar3333 3 years ago
Operatic basses sing the lowest that is possible with enough volume to overcome an orchestra.
MusashiTzu 3 years ago
Yeah an orchestra playing the rite of strings during a fortissimo passage xDDDDDDDDD
reberto 3 years ago
Its not about what notes you can hit, its how you hit them. Counter tenor to bass profondo doesnt matter, its if the singer has volume, power, diction, dynamics legato etc. Thats what makes a great singer.
MusashiTzu 3 years ago
you can think what you want, I like JD better than the baritones you are suggesting. Real bass.
Cougar3333 3 years ago
Real basses dont use vocal fry, they can sing deep in full voice. And if you think the best bass is the lowest one,you have a pretty narrow view of music. But whatever, I'm over it.
MusashiTzu 3 years ago
this is why music is good because you have your views and i have mine. I don't think this is vocal fry. I have heard a lot of gospel basses and most of them do fry, i will agree with you their, thats usually the last note or 1 deep note of a song. He sings down their the whole time. Enjoyed the discussion though and maybe i do have a narrow view but to say he is not a real bass. JD is a monster bass he is one of the deepest singers to walk the earth. Do not insult his legacy .
Cougar3333 3 years ago 3
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Have you watched the video in the related videos toolbar here called "JD & the Stamps - Ole Brother Noah". It shows JD singing without a microphone, and yeah, he has a fine bass voice. I like it a lot. So yeah I agree he is a legend. But do you also notice he is singing no where near as low as he is here (and higher than Paul Robeson). And do you also notice his timbre is totally different? And do you notice his voice has no crackeling in that range? The reason - he is using vocal fry in anytime
MusashiTzu 3 years ago
this is not vocal fry he hits the notes, vocal fry would be somebody faking a noise to hit this. You can't fry and sound this good trust me.
Cougar3333 3 years ago
you can with a microphone, thats why his voice has that "crackling" quality.
MusashiTzu 3 years ago
I know what you can do with a microphone because i sing bass alway to to Ab 1, but he is not frying this notes. The reason his voice is crackling is because he smoked. The volume and the hitting of the note are clearer than that of a vocal fry
Cougar3333 3 years ago
agian, a microphone is giving him this volume. If you think I dont know what I am talking about just look at my channel, I know more than a thing or two about bass voices. Tenderness6 also agreed with me about the vocal fry here, and he is a classically trained bass singer (see his comment below). But using fry is common for gospal basses, if you wanna here a real bass try opera, choral octivists or someone like Paul Robeson.
MusashiTzu 3 years ago
Ok i am pretty sure jd sumnner sings a lot deeper bass and can but out more volume in the deeper register. Those two are different breeds of basses. Jd is a basso profondo and roberson is more of a baritone bass. I also studied music in college and i must say yes Paul has a nice voice, but he isn't a deep bass like jd. Yes he has a deep voice and can probably sing down to about C2 or B1 but hey jd constantly sings C2 and lower down to C1 in his songs.
Cougar3333 3 years ago
Singing that deep anyone would need a mic and I am sure Paul since he is a real bass could sing this song better just as deep. HA i bet he could hit half the notes.
Cougar3333 3 years ago
You friend who was classically trained also called JD a baritone, haha nice one. HEy I am sure Paul Robeson is a counter tenor too hey.
Cougar3333 3 years ago
He said baritone making use of a vocal fry (to become a low bass). The best bass isnt the one who can hit the lowest notes anyway. But compare JD to Vladimir Miller, he can get into this super low range WITHOUT a microphone. Bottom line, if you wanna here a true bass, your wasting your time with gospal singers. Give me a microphone and I match all these notes (even though I'm a baritone), but take it away and I couldnt match Robeson.
MusashiTzu 3 years ago
you couldn't match this notes, you probably can't sing past c2 maybe you can, but listen jd sumner did accomplished more in music than vladimir miller and how do you know how loud jd can sing when he is low did you ever hear him in person. I been the opra route it offers music for basses who can't sing deep, gospel music not only gives u a chance to worship, but to sing comfortably. Don't trash my kind of music because I can start trashing what I think of you puny opra basses
Cougar3333 3 years ago
I hope you can match roberson's notes bc they are not deep at all. I like to see you sing this song so I can laugh at you bc I don't think you could sing the first note
Cougar3333 3 years ago
please, go ahead. But I wouldnt trash any music, all has something to offer, this does, but it wont tell you anything about true bass singing. Operatic basses dont sing as low as this, but they do project over orchestras. I dont know how loud JD could sing else where, but here, where he uses vocal fry, it couldnt prject into the next room without a microphone. How do I know that, try a vocal fry yourself and you will see. But do you even know who vladimir miller is? and have you ever heard him?
MusashiTzu 3 years ago
Well, Miller is still quite a young man, his career is far from over, so he still can accomplish a lot in life. But JD and Miller are into very different kinds of music. Miller is a Russian basso profondo from Sibiria singing russian folk songs and religious orthodox hymns. It's rather unfair to compare them. I gotta say I like them both. It is possible you know!
uglymoon78 3 years ago
Show me a clip where he isnt using vocal fry and is in this range. And I know what a vocal fry sounds like. Obviously you dont, plus, classically trained people agree with me.
MusashiTzu 3 years ago
Yeah but who listens to them? why not listen to the music on here or click the x in the corner. Why bring your negativity to this page? You seem to keep coming back, do you like the singing or just need to be right? Go away already.
rrmaniii 3 years ago 2
This is the best song sung by JD in my opinion.
benwrong46 3 years ago
wowoowwoowo I JUST LOVE JESUS SOOOOOOOO MUCH AND THANKU FOR POSTING JD ,,,,RIP MOTHER AND DADDY
loitalove 3 years ago
Beautiful song with beautiful vocal by the legendary J.D. Sumner! You're such an inspiration to all up an coming bass singers! R.I.P J.D. (:
Bass35744 3 years ago
But Vocal frys are pretty useless really, take away the microphone and you couldnt hear this guy in the same room!
MusashiTzu 3 years ago
But that goes for most bass-singers. Because of the low frequency it's harder to produce a good volume. Just try to shout out in a low voice. Nearly as loud as when you should with a higher voice (that's also why sirens are pitched high).
tcbworld 3 years ago
I totally agree with you. He is a baritone doing vocal fry; I know that I am not making friends but I sang bass airs myself and I am familiar with many, many bass singers from the past and they have quite a different timbre.
Tenderness6 3 years ago
"..The vocal fry register is the lowest vocal register and is produced through a loose glottal closure which will permit air to bubble through with a popping or rattling sound of a very low frequency. The chief use of vocal fry in singing is to obtain pitches of very low frequency which are not available in modal voice. This register may be used therapeutically to improve the lower part of the modal register and is not used that often in singing, but (...) male quartet pieces"
tcbworld 3 years ago
This is called (if I spell it right) frye singing; so not actually bass singing
Tenderness6 3 years ago
not really true. The last part of a word (like in "...Any-where..") made by lowered by 'using' vocal fry. But as soon as there are sentences or more than one word, it's actual singing.
You can look up 'fry' in wikipedia for more info on this.
tcbworld 3 years ago