@Korefox4 SOPA is just plain stupid. I mean, why ban something that people watch and read? They could just make sure no one under eighteen can watch this.
This just proves how superficial our society has become (which always seems to find a way to shock me.) Now the media is aiming directly at girls in elementary school, teaching them how to be sluts.
@strawberrytaichou Not really. All 4 are rendered during the episodes about the size of a 13 year old just like in Homestuck, (heck even Panty is sometimes shown with a beavertooth like Jade), so reverse rendering, imagining them already high school age and fully developed, ain't a bad thing. (shrug) Heck most art of Homestuck characters is drawn as if they were teenagers anyway.
Did anyone else notice that as the series went on, Scanty ended up with her fangs as her top canines and Kneesocks ended up with hers as her bottom ones?
Anyone else find Scanty and Kneesocks a bit like Jessie and James from Pokemon? Because they're little pet guy could go "Meowth, that's right!" and it'd fit perfectly.
Saw a kneesocks cosplayer once. I asked her how long it took her to paint herself red. She said 2 hours. Then I look at her horn and ask if she was horny. She laughed XP
I saw this on another site and feel in instantly in love. This anime is cute, and crazy, the songs are sweet and wild, and it make want to see more i can't wait !!!!!
@Nux1100 serously pple need hop off spelling and grammers dick dis is online it dose not mater if u use spelling and grammer as long if it make sense and pple can nderstand it if pple cant understande it den ur suposed to ask wat dey wrote so hop off my dick and stop saying i need to spell or need a little gramer caz u need to stop troling my unQie style of typing
@MissIkuNagae the comic book style iis good but wen panty/stalking/scanty/kneesocks turn into anime they turn realy sexy witch turns me on but wen dey go back to der uniQue comic book style im turned off im not saying anything bad bout the show its just i like wen dose 4 girls turn to anime but the show is very good yes but the most parts that i like r wen dos girls turn anime this is wat i say in my mind wen i see sa dem go to anime (got damn dere all sexy fucking damn dey got grete bodies)
@TheYellowSpaceCadet dude no 1 cares dis is online it dosent matter bout spelling and gramer at least u didnt say anyding bout my spelling caz i would say ur another low life fuck who always depend on spelling but ur but it looks like ur another low life fuck who cares bout grammer u can understand my typing so i dont need no fucking grammer so hope off my dick u fucking lamo so pple stop troling my spelling i dont need spelling or gramer caz dis is online so 1 mind ur fucking business 2
@REDDD20o91 Unique? It's called incorrect and makes you look retarded. Not to mention, how am I trolling? I'm being honest. Trolling is when you annoy/ruin something on purpose...
@TheYellowSpaceCadet i now call pple who troll my typing caz to many pple do it and its very annoying caz i only type like dis online not real life wat do have to say dat in every single youtube video caz if i have to i will and dat a impossibl task so pple like u have to stop trolling my typing its very annoying its my typing is called ps3 and xbox360 typing god pple r slow 4 not nowing dis well some pple anyway
@MissIkuNagae but wen they turn back to dere comic book style i say my mind in ttears (ah man dere sexy transfermations over )(sigh)den i dont dink dere sexy any more untill i see dem transform they got great bodys not dat i was staring or anything -_-''' heh heh heh heh heh every time i see dis it almost gets me a nose bleed and only 1 show gets me nose bleeds shin k. its a yuri anime dat im watching dat shoe always gives me nose bleeds
@MissIkuNagae if u have a computer dat makes it realy realy slow so u can see certain things u can see pantys boobs i have dat compute so i can see any perverted ding in slow mo any time i so luky
@MissIkuNagae ooooooooooookkkkkkkkkkkk if u dont beleave me oh well dats ur problem but im going to watch hentai and porno in slow mo i laugh my ass off every time i hear i agirl go uuuuuuhhhhh slow mo itss halarious
@MissIkuNagae wat ur not goin coment back i might as well say some hate shit bout this show if ur not goin to comment bck i hav nothing to do i just want to reply back to pples coment dat haz nothing to do wit my spelling ad grammer
no how many times i see dis vid i hate dere comic book look dere anime look is much much much mmmmmmmmmmmmuuuuuuuuuucccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhh sexier then dere comic look
Don't you get it? Panty & Stocking have stripping poles and they're angels and Scanty & Kneesocks don't and they're demons? They are each others counterpart. They wear,do,speak the opposite from the original. Makes sense.
Don't you get it? Scanty & Kneesocks are Panty & Stockings counterparts. They are the opposite of what they are and do. By the way, the reason why Scanty is wearing two panties is because they can transform into two guns. Similar power to Panty. If Panty wants two guns, Stocking will take hers off and give it to Panty for extra power. Just like when Stocking takes off her other stocking to have two katanas (japanese swords).
hahaha facepalm lol
missharumomo 1 day ago
does anyone know what the demon sisters say in japanese? just curious and a friend asked what the hell they saying.
kagemisuto 1 day ago
I have to say, this is really over the top this is. lol.
Sephigroth 1 day ago
What...is...this show?!
Sephigroth 1 day ago
@Sephigroth panty and stocking with garterbelt
sharosudo 1 day ago
im going to kill my friend for even telling me to watch this. his blood will be on the ground... hehehehe. but it still seems like its a good anime
LOLILOVEANIMEHEHE 5 days ago
@LOLILOVEANIMEHEHE why would you wanna kill your friend for showing you an amazing anime... logic >_>
LandscapeManX 3 days ago
These songs aren't backwards, they are two different songs.
Panty and Stocking use Fly away now, and Scanty and Kneesocks use I want you.
MarcusHedgehog97 5 days ago
The songs are just backwards for the two different teams. Angles VS. Deamons.
MegaRacerx69 5 days ago
lmao
rashiddavis1 1 week ago
0:37 Fcking scanty =_=lll
nyanna1710 1 week ago
I would give someone 10 million fucking dollars to play ths vid at a best buy and put it on loop
Forza3driftking 2 weeks ago
o.e . . . . Fuck my life.
TehxStorm 2 weeks ago
That's just so weird I'm not gonna bother.
KatieScraper 3 weeks ago
So y was this in my suggestions? O_o
AdamChan318 3 weeks ago 7
is the song in the backround for scanty and kneesocks
fly away backwardS?
sailormoonashley 3 weeks ago 3
@sailormoonashley Could be. But it isn't
Kaare136 3 weeks ago
My babies-3
TheDiegoq 4 weeks ago
Wait a minute... Scanty wears 2 pairs of panties?! That's against the RRRRRUURRRRRRUS!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheEpicWerehog620 4 weeks ago
@Korefox4 SOPA is just plain stupid. I mean, why ban something that people watch and read? They could just make sure no one under eighteen can watch this.
thespecificallyvague 1 month ago
BLACK AND N FROM BLACK ADVENTURES OH GOD.
poisonFacade 1 month ago
SOPA stated this would be on their list of things to censor. I'm going to miss crazy videos like this if it gets passed.
Korefox4 1 month ago
lolwut?
docfeelgood777 1 month ago
Meh. I prefer Scanty and Kneesocks' badass weapons, combined with the appearance of Panty and Stocking.
machinimamarlon 1 month ago
0:09 - "gay porn"
WTF???
JOYGOL 1 month ago
anime show that's on the edge between hentai and smut. Ecchi? No such thing in a show like this.
mjmegaplay 1 month ago
.... what?
mattbru2 1 month ago
Demon sisters are much much much BETTERrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
TerrorbladeCooking 1 month ago
ummmmmmm, wtf is this@_@?
ChiiVocaloid 1 month ago
I always feel so weird for watching this.
sumofty 1 month ago
Only PSG can be both Badass and Perverted at the same time...
.......................and that's why I love it so much.
megamanrocks99 1 month ago 5
DAMN! I dont know at who i look! I know! I will look at the middle of the video! It works...
Gabressan 1 month ago
I like this series but even I have to say, wtf Japan, your just getting wierder and wierder
ezone36 1 month ago
Woah **
Shofy199 1 month ago
Weird, but by moral alignments i will pick up Demons (Lawful Neutral), not Angels (Chaotic Neutral). Body-wise they are kinda on equals.
Nemo7The7Pirate7 1 month ago
hawt damn xD
Tyris1013 1 month ago
W.T.H. :D
Tarzan726 1 month ago
we now know that scanty wears two pairs of panties at all times
blargharghful 1 month ago
@blargharghful Sure. :3 Two pairs. X3
kitsunefire1 1 month ago
no japanese hentai striptese??? lame....
ymmy18 2 months ago
here's my respones "WHAT THE HELL",what did i just missed
pyrorevolution69 2 months ago
You know how in normal anime transformations they magically put their clothes on? P+S take their clothes off! XD
CyclopsMonabeckman 2 months ago 132
@CyclopsMonabeckman
As it should be :D
DashebleLink 2 months ago
....
kingdomEXE 2 months ago
0:36 ow my god, wtf?
finfafen 2 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
0:46 scanty and kneesocks are wearing black clothes
0:47 scanty and kneesocks are wearing school uniforms
....o_o
PoisoningOrchid 2 months ago
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PoisoningOrchid 2 months ago
repent.
stusader 2 months ago
Panty or Stocking? Stocking definetely
Scanty or Ms Kneesocks? Kneesocks is way hotter :D
meborez 3 months ago
Really!?!?!? How wears 2pairs of undiez????
roze529 3 months ago
@roze529 scanty does
evongalo 3 months ago
@roze529 Actually alot people do...girls that is, id know coz i am one XD
nowayimdeadlol 3 months ago
@roze529 well if you have you period its save to wear 2 pairs xDDD yes i now... TMI
KuraikoLee 2 months ago
lmao nice xD
heathfiedler 3 months ago
If u in trouble try to remove your panty and hit the bad ass with it
hyperRPM 3 months ago 80
THEIR PERSONALITIES ARE LIKE INO AND HINATA OF NARUTO. LOL.
AnneStudio 3 months ago
This just proves how superficial our society has become (which always seems to find a way to shock me.) Now the media is aiming directly at girls in elementary school, teaching them how to be sluts.
piratequeen11 3 months ago
@piratequeen11 dude, troll much. It's not society's fault. maybe kids should actually be raised right.
MatthewDeBrittania 3 months ago 9
@piratequeen11 Except PSG wasn't made for little girls.
The transformation scenes, if anything, are done in parody of anime that takes itself seriously.
CrookedSmirk 1 month ago 2
@piratequeen11 This wasn't meant for children dude
YingofDarkness 1 month ago
wearing two thongs bust be uncomfortable.
LiLNetworker 3 months ago
I don'-WHAT IS GOING ON?!
Voidaken 3 months ago
QUICK SOMEONE TELL ME THE NAME OF THIS SONG!
WonkaWonkaWoot 3 months ago
@WonkaWonkaWoot just search 'fly away now panty and stocking OST full' in the youtube search bar :)
MsRyuuKoi 3 months ago
@WonkaWonkaWoot If you mean the Demon Sisters, it's either "Theme of Scanty and Kneesocks" or "I Want You".
geminidrake 3 months ago
@WonkaWonkaWoot Both song names:
Panty and Stocking Theme, or Fly Away.
Scanty and Kneesocks Theme, or I Want You.
andrerock5 3 months ago
I have absolutely no fucking idea what i just watched
jesse6669 3 months ago 6
@jesse6669 Two angels just pulled off their panties/stockings and turned them into weapons, followed by two demons do the same thing.
TheDoctorofOdoIsland 2 months ago
who watches this shit o.O?
Tarion666 3 months ago
@Tarion666 Me..=.=
YGolover13 3 months ago
Whats the song i LOVE IT!!
aquamarine12a 3 months ago
I can now sleep happily and wake up exhausted.... O_O
runeguy221akaredguy2 3 months ago
Every rule
xenomorph1287 4 months ago
LOL Pokemon back
titanicdargon1912 4 months ago
Demons don't need stripper poles to be sexy :P
Maeve2011 4 months ago
on the angel i chose Panty,
on demon sister i chose Kneesocks.
not much
Testimonialisation 4 months ago
@Testimonialisation Same here...not sure why.
narutardtedr 4 months ago
@Testimonialisation me too! :D -high five-
dancergal633 3 months ago
Am I the only one who thinks there should be a bra?
LolitaDaisu 4 months ago
*Drools* I think I like the demons so much more.
UhmAreYouDeadYet 4 months ago
SHE SO HOT & SEXY!!!!!!!!!!!
NoHaPPy555 4 months ago
Sailor Moon did it soooo fucking wrong.
3bdooTube 4 months ago
Jade and Rose / Scourge Sisters Terezi and Vriska transformation HD
....That would be the best thing ever. Godbless Homestuck.
It fits so well its SCARY!
9753matt 4 months ago
@9753matt Is it bad that I can imagine that?
strawberrytaichou 4 months ago
@strawberrytaichou Not really. All 4 are rendered during the episodes about the size of a 13 year old just like in Homestuck, (heck even Panty is sometimes shown with a beavertooth like Jade), so reverse rendering, imagining them already high school age and fully developed, ain't a bad thing. (shrug) Heck most art of Homestuck characters is drawn as if they were teenagers anyway.
9753matt 4 months ago
i just want the song x-x
narutosonic1213 4 months ago
@narutosonic1213
Fly Away by Teddyloid
Austin21926 3 months ago
too bad there most likely won't be another season... since the manga and anime ban in tokyo :'(
VCYouShow 4 months ago
WHAT?! OMFG THEY CANT CANCEL IT!
xXMidnightxDemonXx 4 months ago 2
i wish I could turn my Boxershorts into a bazooka o__O
OMGKefKong 4 months ago
Wait a sec how there's moregirls watching this video than boys?
Hmm I guess that part of D City Rock was right girls are full time horny too. :P
SammEater 4 months ago
wtf...
JashinGirl 4 months ago
雙槍和二刀流!
Hsuyihui 4 months ago
I adore them <З
Nyaka212 4 months ago
I had a dream I was transforming like this, and woke up without...
The nice warm knee-highs I wore to sleep.
kingdom0aerith 4 months ago
Did anyone else notice that as the series went on, Scanty ended up with her fangs as her top canines and Kneesocks ended up with hers as her bottom ones?
hamstergirl591 4 months ago
I sometimes take my panties off so it can magically transform into a gun. Apparently people think I'm playing with my own panties.
IllegalTragedy 4 months ago 6
what is this crazy anime.....or cartoon
TheSeeingman 4 months ago
@TheSeeingman
It's Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt.
JengaPerv 4 months ago
songs are nice...
MajorShepard 4 months ago
1:01 Pokemon moment
titanicdargon1912 5 months ago 139
@titanicdargon1912 Lol. Team rocket style.
flowXehtXebirt 4 months ago
@titanicdargon1912
Meowth, that's right! >:3
AmunRa1 4 months ago
@titanicdargon1912 Pokemon BW subway masters?
DraceEmpressa 3 months ago
@titanicdargon1912 How?!
aquamarine12a 3 months ago
Fastener is so cute <3
Kneesocks is darn sexy O.o
XxSailorCapricorn 5 months ago
I don't know what it is but I think Kneesocks is prettier...it could be that tooth of Scanty's..I dunno, it just sorta creeps me out o.o
xoGhostInTheMirror 5 months ago
Scanty has shiny boobs... o 3o
xoGhostInTheMirror 5 months ago
*Nose bleeds* GAWD...MY...OH....
Hexrina 5 months ago
Anyone else find Scanty and Kneesocks a bit like Jessie and James from Pokemon? Because they're little pet guy could go "Meowth, that's right!" and it'd fit perfectly.
DarkHaxxorz 5 months ago 68
Whenever I watch this I never look at Stocking because I'm too busy watching Panty pet her boobs .__.
woofwoofyoyo 5 months ago 5
panties are weapons too
KappaMummy 5 months ago
I want to make sweet lesbian love to all four of them.
naranxas 5 months ago
Saw a kneesocks cosplayer once. I asked her how long it took her to paint herself red. She said 2 hours. Then I look at her horn and ask if she was horny. She laughed XP
MissyMissKitty 5 months ago 4
My computer stopes at 00:39!!! Grosssssss
SuperSuperawsomeness 5 months ago
I saw this on another site and feel in instantly in love. This anime is cute, and crazy, the songs are sweet and wild, and it make want to see more i can't wait !!!!!
oneartform01 5 months ago
the funny thing about this is that this has ruined many childhoods for everyone XD
ultmawolf 5 months ago
@ultmawolf not for me though, personally i think that Paheal ruined my childhood.
AnitSonichuAntiCWC 5 months ago
o boy i wish i could do that with my underwear yerr
empoliem7 5 months ago 98
Did anyone else notice the one Demon Sister is pulling off two pantys?
TheArtofThings 5 months ago
@TheArtofThings Well,She does have two guns...
helloman4545 5 months ago
@TheArtofThings yea its called a Scanty i think check wiki or definition some where
ChirayuKhotchasanee 5 months ago
eu....eu....gostei disso
hiruzen200 5 months ago
I love Scanty and Kneesocks and am not ashamed in saying so.
jigsaw213 5 months ago
That is just akward,wanna watch cuz Gainax made it
CroSSGuardXX 6 months ago
1:02 Vagina.
ZENxAeropolis 6 months ago 6
So...HORNY.
capnquack 6 months ago
what is this i dont even what the fuck i have the weirdest boner
thomasdfghj1 6 months ago
I'm sorry, but what is this? It may very well be the most amazing thing I've ever seen.
UnholyJesus181 6 months ago
...Why don't you guys learn a little grammar?
Nux1100 6 months ago 4
@Nux1100 serously pple need hop off spelling and grammers dick dis is online it dose not mater if u use spelling and grammer as long if it make sense and pple can nderstand it if pple cant understande it den ur suposed to ask wat dey wrote so hop off my dick and stop saying i need to spell or need a little gramer caz u need to stop troling my unQie style of typing
REDDD20o91 6 months ago
wen u see panty and stocking anime version its all sexy but wen dey go back to dere ugly comic book stiyle dere way beter looking as anime girls
REDDD20o91 6 months ago
@REDDD20o91
The comic book style is unique, colourful and well animated, mind you.
MissIkuNagae 6 months ago
@MissIkuNagae the comic book style iis good but wen panty/stalking/scanty/kneesocks turn into anime they turn realy sexy witch turns me on but wen dey go back to der uniQue comic book style im turned off im not saying anything bad bout the show its just i like wen dose 4 girls turn to anime but the show is very good yes but the most parts that i like r wen dos girls turn anime this is wat i say in my mind wen i see sa dem go to anime (got damn dere all sexy fucking damn dey got grete bodies)
REDDD20o91 6 months ago
@REDDD20o91 Grammar please?
TheYellowSpaceCadet 6 months ago
@TheYellowSpaceCadet dude no 1 cares dis is online it dosent matter bout spelling and gramer at least u didnt say anyding bout my spelling caz i would say ur another low life fuck who always depend on spelling but ur but it looks like ur another low life fuck who cares bout grammer u can understand my typing so i dont need no fucking grammer so hope off my dick u fucking lamo so pple stop troling my spelling i dont need spelling or gramer caz dis is online so 1 mind ur fucking business 2
REDDD20o91 6 months ago
@TheYellowSpaceCadet stopo trolling over my uniQe style of typing
REDDD20o91 6 months ago
@REDDD20o91 Unique? It's called incorrect and makes you look retarded. Not to mention, how am I trolling? I'm being honest. Trolling is when you annoy/ruin something on purpose...
TheYellowSpaceCadet 6 months ago
@TheYellowSpaceCadet i now call pple who troll my typing caz to many pple do it and its very annoying caz i only type like dis online not real life wat do have to say dat in every single youtube video caz if i have to i will and dat a impossibl task so pple like u have to stop trolling my typing its very annoying its my typing is called ps3 and xbox360 typing god pple r slow 4 not nowing dis well some pple anyway
REDDD20o91 6 months ago
@MissIkuNagae but wen they turn back to dere comic book style i say my mind in ttears (ah man dere sexy transfermations over )(sigh)den i dont dink dere sexy any more untill i see dem transform they got great bodys not dat i was staring or anything -_-''' heh heh heh heh heh every time i see dis it almost gets me a nose bleed and only 1 show gets me nose bleeds shin k. its a yuri anime dat im watching dat shoe always gives me nose bleeds
REDDD20o91 6 months ago
@MissIkuNagae the anime dat gives me nose bleeds is called shin koihime its the best yuri show ive ever seen in my life
REDDD20o91 6 months ago
@MissIkuNagae if u have a computer dat makes it realy realy slow so u can see certain things u can see pantys boobs i have dat compute so i can see any perverted ding in slow mo any time i so luky
REDDD20o91 6 months ago
@REDDD20o91
I'm sure you do~!
o 101 u da lukiest, oky den hav fun wit dat 1010101
MissIkuNagae 6 months ago
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@MissIkuNagae ooooooooooookkkkkkkkkkkk if u dont beleave me oh well dats ur problem but im going to watch hentai and porno in slow mo i laugh my ass off every time i hear i agirl go uuuuuuhhhhh slow mo itss halarious
REDDD20o91 6 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@MissIkuNagae wat ur not goin coment back i might as well say some hate shit bout this show if ur not goin to comment bck i hav nothing to do i just want to reply back to pples coment dat haz nothing to do wit my spelling ad grammer
REDDD20o91 6 months ago
no how many times i see dis vid i hate dere comic book look dere anime look is much much much mmmmmmmmmmmmuuuuuuuuuucccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhh sexier then dere comic look
REDDD20o91 6 months ago
the demon sisters sound like they have pink as their music
nkmoneymaker 6 months ago
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@LightningMaster467 Don't deny it, you think so too Jiffy.
Nux1100 6 months ago
I ily stockings haaaaaaaaair!!
makichitani 6 months ago
Don't you get it? Panty & Stocking have stripping poles and they're angels and Scanty & Kneesocks don't and they're demons? They are each others counterpart. They wear,do,speak the opposite from the original. Makes sense.
MidnightMist241 6 months ago
Don't you get it? Scanty & Kneesocks are Panty & Stockings counterparts. They are the opposite of what they are and do. By the way, the reason why Scanty is wearing two panties is because they can transform into two guns. Similar power to Panty. If Panty wants two guns, Stocking will take hers off and give it to Panty for extra power. Just like when Stocking takes off her other stocking to have two katanas (japanese swords).
MidnightMist241 6 months ago
I looove Stocking she is so cuuuute
makichitani 6 months ago
lol dude why do the angels have poles and the demons dont?
555sharp 6 months ago 5
DAMMIT! Cant. Fucking. Watch. Two things. AT THE SAME TIME!! Trying so hard!
solusumbra 6 months ago 3
I like stocking on the angel side and on the demon side i like kneeesocks.
parakiss00 6 months ago
@parakiss00 same here
mirizal123 6 months ago
FUCK the demons are sexiest sorry angels xD
MegaMrkitty 6 months ago
Why does she wear 2 pairs of underwear
theprinceofprussia 6 months ago
@theprinceofprussia They can turn their undergarments into weapons. So more underwear=more weapons.
ChoujiMan 6 months ago 3
I wish I could turn my underwear into a gun...
TheSquidPro 7 months ago 188
@TheSquidPro XD
thefan162 6 months ago
@TheSquidPro What about socks into swords? :O
Or are you just into firearms? owo
Personally I would take both.
scionofthearchdragon 5 months ago
@TheSquidPro I wish I could turn my guns into underwear...
E57es 4 months ago
@TheSquidPro
that way if your about to get raped you could always shoot him in the face.
TheGermanbrick 4 months ago
Funny thing is, I don't need the subtitles .-.
I've watched these so many times that I know exactly what they say.
frankcurtis96 7 months ago
i absolutely adore scanty & kneesocks' designs.
audreyfggt 7 months ago
the animation for their transformation should stay like that no damn bad cartoon ass stuff
cozsful 7 months ago
If they did a gender-bender boy style strip tease, Yaoi fangirls would go wild. Maybe even a few boys, too.
Ya never know. :D
TalesofGirl4ever 7 months ago 269
@TalesofGirl4ever BEST. IDEA. EVURRR ;3
1234Sophii 7 months ago
@TalesofGirl4ever LOL, but if they gender- bend, I wonder how the boxer guy would take of his boxer xDDD
anaco654 6 months ago
@TalesofGirl4ever Boys will either laugh, barf or meh. Gays will go wild.
kenjiharimaCU 6 months ago
@TalesofGirl4ever THAT'S SO FUNNY, because someone's done one with Sasuke and Itachi from Naruto to Panty and Stocking's transformations. XDD
vallin55amaya 6 months ago
@TalesofGirl4ever "Brief, what are you doing!?"
EltarPrince 5 months ago
@TalesofGirl4ever Im a fan boy and I would *O*