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  • Could you please tell me qhat guitar interface do you use?

  • @neo69hk I record through Mackie Onyx Satellite

  • hey bro, nice video indeed....I was wondering whether I can get the 2 snare samples used in this video via pm.

  • Look Forward more mixing metal guitar video from you,

  • @neo69hk we've currently recording our upcoming release. I'll do a detailed mixing video when it's finished.

  • Wow! Tahnk you bye bye...

  • I see a lot of strange things:

    - the voice have the riverb and delay but don't see the activated send to another aux, why? did you recording with the effects?

    -You don't use compression but only the limiter, why?

    - why you use in cascade a lot of drummagog the last don't hide the first?

    The video is very wonderfull. thanks bye bye

  • @CubaseTutorialForum this is my mixing session. I recorded the vocals in a previous session, where I used compression and reverb + delay. These effects are printed on the track when I exported the vocals as two stereo tracks. Well, I used C4 and Blockfish compressors here and there, but I like to use L1 on this stage of mixing. I used lot of drumagogs to blend many snare sounds. The previous sound will only hide when the blend knob is at 100 %.

    Thanks!

  • @CubaseTutorialForum If you think that session looks strange, you should see mine. I guess we all find our own ways around the recording process.

  • its a bit dry..it needs some more bass IMO..the rest is really good

  • @ArtificialFlavaFTB2

    i knew your comment was a few months back and you may of found a set up that works for you but here, this video has a set up of free plug ins and could be close to a sound you are/were looking for.

    /watch?v=wRarzUr8wDE

  • what plug in is that on i think it says 'bass faster' track that has the peavy 6505 and RIR? nice mix over all! im trying to set up a home studio but just lacking in knowledge/plug ins for getting a variety of guitar sounds, i guess once ive got some decent plug ins it'll just be playing around with them.

  • It's interesting that you fed one guitar amp simulator (SoloC) into another (8505). What was the reason for doing that? It doesn't seem like an obvious thing to do :D.

  • @uniquenessandwonder you should never treat a virtual amp like a real thing, because they usually act differently. Sometimes weird setups get the sound you want. This time boosting with another preamp seemed to work.

  • Hey awesome music and recording quality!! ..i have two question:

    did you made a mastering session after this mixing?if yes, what kind of master?what plugins used? thank you man you and your band rocks!!!!!

  • @drakensoul85 you can see my master channel @ 6:17 in this video. I actually mastered the tracks on a different session, but those are the exact plugins and settings I used.

  • hey, amazing songs! look forward to see you guys playing live, quickie techie question, did you use much compression to the guitar tracks? and did you do this post-recording or compress whilst recording? i'm just starting out recording my music on cubase and dont have too much technical knowledge. cheers! jenny

  • @MsDragonbeats thanks! I used a tiny amount of L1 limiter when mixing. Heavy distortion guitars rarely need any compression at all.

  • Whats voxengo? Ive been looking for a plugin that can give me a nice heavy djent sound if anyone could lead me in a direction

  • @ArtificialFlavaFTB2 Voxengo is a company which offers a bunch of great plugins. But there's no single plugin to get the sound you want. It's up to your guitar, pickups and your playing style. Just play super tightly and all you need is some gear or software what ephasizes it.

  • Hey man,do you have maybe a video where you focus on your guitar only? For instance ,you bypass all the effects and let us hear only the DI sound ,then you add effect by effect ,which allows to audition the impact of every effect seperately?

  • @Huyasee Good idea! I've been giving some Cubase-lessons lately, where I build up my signal chain from zero. I might do a video similar to that in the near future.

  • @Ronixis please do this way. focus on your guitar tracks and how eq those guitars and show us how do you get your INSANE tone from amp sims and impulses in cubase.

  • very good quality and mixing, but i do have to say that it does sound too digital for me... People say you cant hear the difference between some of these virtual amps and real miked up ones, but I can.

    would've benefited from the use and miking of real instruments... but great clarity either way.... just too digital sounding to me..

  • @Buhzie15 I agree that real cabs miced with real mics sound better. But to achieve great sound you need to have 1) great mics 2) great cabinet and amp 3) good sounding quiet room 4) lot of experience on how to mic stuff. When we recorded this, I didn't have any of those available! I'm 100 % sure that I'd have had far worse results by micing up my shitty Marshall combo in my bedroom full of noise :D ...if I could have used studio and professional gear, it would have been a different story.

  • @Buhzie15 ...and you know, using digital plugins is easy and cheap. I really like the fact that I can get pretty convincing results in a non-studio environment. It's not as good as the real thing, but for me it's good enough for a zero-budget recording. But thanks for the great comment and good feedback!

  • @Ronixis totally man... sounds like dream theater but with balls and a good singer. haha... are the drums midi programmed? or just drumagogged?

  • And 2nd question : I own Yamaha Pacifica electric guitar ,and guitar tone is my weakest spot . Since you obviously know thing or two bout recording guitars , shoud i record(or monitor) my D.I guitar sound FLAT and do all the tweaking with plugins ?(Since my SoundCard doesnt have preamps ,i use my Ibanez Amp to amplify the direct signal,and the output goes to my soundcard - so the right way is to tweak the Bass Mid High knobs to zero,or all the way up?..) Thanks in advance

  • @Huyasee I'd try to capture the guitar DI-signal as transparent as possible. Best way to do this is to record through a soundcard with instrument input (sometimes stated as Hi-Z input). If you want to record the signal through a regular line-in, you need a DI-box. Otherwise the impedance of the guitar signal and soundcards input wont match, which will result in the loss of

    high frequencies.

  • @Ronixis Thanks

  • Great sounds dude!Really proffesional! I have a question : You said that you recorded your guitar DI ,and then made all the proccesing with plugins . However,you monitored your guitar sound via your real guitar amp,so how did you manage to record a clean D.I signal while monitoring with your real amp?

  • Hey great vocals in here!

    What microphone did you use for them?

    Cheers

  • @drakensoul85 Thanks! Shure SM57 with a pop-filter.

  • Great video.

  • WOW! That is some stunning audio quality!!! Better than many metal bands in terms of clarity! You guys have style similar to that of Haste The Day and In Flames. Absolutely awesome!!

  • by keeping the drums tastefully kinda dry, you managed to make the arrangement more creamy and explosive. Cool

  • Awesome!!! Can you send me via PM your snare and kick samples?

    Many thanks!!

  • @MayaHatter pm sent

  • @Ronixis Please bro can i have those samples too via PM? Thanks!!!

    I have a question about your guitars. i saw there are four tracks, so the question is : are them simmetrical or have you delayed three of them to enhace the stereo effect?

    Thank you so much again !!

  • @drakensoul85 PM sent. The guitar tracks aren't delayed. We did a different take for every track, so we recorded guitars 4 times. Nothing is copied.

  • What interface did you use to DI your guitar tracks? There seems to be no impedance or buzzing on your guitar tracks... did you use a ground lift or some type of hardware noise reducer?

  • @ZachAtk1 I used Mackie Onyx Satellite. It's powered by the firewire port, so I guess that lowers the odds of getting unwanted hum on your tracks. I also try to keep distance to my pc and monitors when tracking. Using noise gate plugins before and after the amp sim helps too.

  • about how much did this plug ins cost you ? it sounds way too good to be free haha things are sounding really good keep up the good work !!!

  • @opgangsta1193 well there's some limiters, compressors and eq:s I used that aren't free. Yeah, and Steven Slate drums. I'm pretty sure you could get same results with freeware alternatives, I'm just used to work with these plugins. I really don't want to calculate how much all of this has cost, too much work =D

  • Thanks a lot for sharing this!! How did you got that amazing guitar sound? do you get that vocals with only a sm57? Thanks a lot!

  • @HeilTheOperator Yeah, the vocals are just SM57 with a pop-filter in front. You can see the complete guitar chain at 7:17 on this video. We just recorded plain di-tracks and used amp simulator plugins.

  • How come all your tracks are in stereo?

    Do you doubletrack and then export each instrument as stereo and re-import?

  • @hahallur this is my "mixing session". First I recorded all my tracks mono in two sessions (1. guitars, bass, keyboards 2. vocals). Then I panned and leveled everything the way I liked it, and exported everything to stereo tracks.

    I dont want to deal with billion single tracks when I'm mixing and automating stuff. Also, if I mix in a different session, I have more cpu and ram available for plugins.

    Guitars are quad tracked. Bass is one take on three tracks (revalver, pod and di).

  • So I checked out your music and this is probably my favorite song so far. Your music is really amazing, You guys sound as good as a band that put out plenty of albums already.

    It's really cool that you got it to sound that good with VSTs because that's what I'm using to work on my music.

  • @ShimmySystem thanks, I really appreciate it!

  • Tosi mahtavaa musaa. Diggaan just tota teidän tyyliä. Harrastelen itekki kotistudioilua, ja siks erityisesti kiinosti tää video. Minkälaisella tietokoneella pyörität tuota määrää plukkareita ja VSTi:a? Ite ku oon käytännössä vain kitaristi-basisti-kiipparisti niin joudun vääntään rummutkin midiäkirjottamalla ja VSTi:n kautta soundit sit.. Tahtoo vaan itella ainakin koneesta loppua tehot ku kitarat+bassot+synat+ rummut prosessoidaan erilaisilal plukkareilla + vsti:t päälle.

  • @0Waldema0 tälläset speksit on koneessa: Asus P5Q, Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3,16 ghz, 4 GB DDR2, Mackie Onyx Satellite firewire interface.

    Ei ihan riitä hönkä pyörittämään kaikkea kerralla. Äänitin ja miksasin kolmessa eri sessiossa: 1. DI-instrumentit, 2. laulut, 3. miksaus (videossa pyörivä sessio). Eli vähempikin teho riittää jos on valmis luopumaan siitä että ajaa jokaista plugaria ja VSTi:tä reaaliajassa.

  • @Ronixis Juu, kyl tuossa myllyssä näyttäs vähän enemmän olevan tehoja ku mun nykyisessä, joten oon joutun kallistumaan just tuomoseen erisessio nauhotuksiin. Ja itellä tosiaan tällä hetkellä Line 6 Pod studio ux2. Se ei oo kyl kovin kummonen.. Onko tuo hyväki interface toi Mackie? Oon suunnitellu semmosen Intel i5 pohjasen järjestelmän kasaamista kotistudion sydämeksi, ehkä joskus vois sit siirtyä mäkkiinki:D Mut joo oli hyvä ku esittelit noi sun plukkarit, sai paljo taas itelle hankintalistalle

  • @0Waldema0 no problem! ihan ok interface on toi mackie. toimii arkikäytössäki ihan hyvin. pakko kyl aika paljon nostaa näytetaajuutta jos haluaa tollasta määrää plugareita pyörittää. mutta se nyt johtuu ihan koneenki tehoista.

  • amazing !!!

  • Very impressive skills and work! :) I like very much your singin' :)

  • @Granyonky Thanks! I really appreciate it!

  • hey man, very decent stuff here. congrats! hey i saw you used the voxengo elephant. do you know how to set the release to auto? i just got the vst, thanks!

  • @alfrenium Thank you! For all I know, there's no auto setting on Elephants release.

  • This is really great! I have a question though: Are the guitar tracks DI tracks? and what software or program do you use to monitor the guitar while recording? :)

  • @ImbowProductions Thanks. That's right, guitars are plain DI-tracks. I actually monitored the guitars through my real amplifier when recording. I guess it was easier to get the right feeling that way, rather than monitoring with the amp-sims we used. You can see the guitar chain @ 7:18.

  • How are you doing the drums? recording, programing, triggering? Are you using Drumagog? Thanks

  • YO GREAT VID GREAT SOUND I AM NOT A BIG RAP FAN IM MORE IN THE DANCE GENRE HOUSE ELECTRO HARSTYLE ETC I LIKE EVERY GENRE OF MUSIC BUT COULDNT COME AROUND 2 COUNTRY OR TRADITIONAL ROCK AND ROLL BUT AFTER SEEING THIS VIDEO AND HERING THIS SOUND YOU CHAGED MY MIND WERE CAN I FIND THIS SONG

  • @JUKETASTRAFE3 Thanks! You can download the songs at our myspace-site. The link is on the description :)

  • excelent work...

  • and one question ~ how do you direct the guitar to the computer ~? what interface do you use . or just direct to your sound card ~??~

  • @neo69hk I record direct to Mackie Onyx Satellite firewire interface.

  • oh ~ thank you ~ and i want to say ` your song really great ~ hope one your band will be band big ~you guy's deserve to be ~~

  • @neo69hk I really appreciate it! Thank you!

  • GREAT GREAT GREAT!!!!! What a production!!! You are amazing!!! do you mind if i ask what pc you use?? How many ghz your cpu is, cause when the transport panel came out i saw the cpu meter was really low!! GREAT JOB!!!!!!

  • @djmorhellas Thanks man!

    Specs:

    Asus P5Q

    Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3,16 ghz

    4 GT DDR2

  • You use nick crow 8505 amp sim to recoard your guitar sound ~?

  • @neo69hk That's right! You can see the whole guitar chain at 7:18

  • Hey there, this is the most amazing video on YouTube. To me (on my way learning the mixing tricks) is also extremely useful. Hats off . . .

    The songs are just great and you guys have an icredibly professional sound as well. Great job ! ! !

    One question: can I find the kick and snare sounds for drumagog somewhere ? ? They are both amazing. Your help would be greatly appreciated.

    Rock on ! !

  • @MaestroMusic77 the kick sample is the "brain kick" I found at Andy Sneap forum at some point. The snare samples are "Paramore snare" and some samples I snatched of a Stam1na record :D ...I'll PM you links so you can download.

  • AWESOME BRUTAL. PERFECT.. AMAZING RECORDING PROCESS.. great songs,, thanks for this video Guys...

  • @TENACER Thank you for subscribing, Tenacer :)

  • I really like the bass sound. The distortion is really cool.

    Can you tell us what you used to record the bass ?

  • @Pitacle2009 we used a really cheap ESP LTD bass with active mics (I think it was F-104). There is three tracks of bass: 1. DI (no processing), 2. DI with amp simulator (revalver) and 3. POD XT track. You can see all the details at 7:55 on this video.

  • @Ronixis Yes, I saw the end of the video after I wrote my comment.

    You did a great job for the bass. I really love that kind of tone. Keep on your good work.

  • What a wonderfully intimate view on this process. your band is amazing.  this was helpful. thanks for the EP you Scandinavian love child

  • Holy crap, "Chains" is orgasmically amazing, especially the solo. :O

    Do you have tabs for your meticulously crafted piece of art by any chance?

  • @sssShawnnnn We have the tabs, and we'll probably upload them all online soon. By the way, every track is now online.

  • Thanks Ronixis! I found them on the Sneap forum yesterday. Again, thank you for the free EP! I'll wait patiently for the tabs.

  • TODAY IS THE DAY OF THE EP RELEASE!!!!!!!! :D I am stoked.

  • Only 3 more days until the EP release! :D

  • @sssShawnnnn yup! We finally got our CDs today.

  • best ;-)

    please, can you upload your green gate in megaupload or rapidshare link?

  • @gemy87 just write "greengate vst" to google and you can download it for free

  • hello ! the sound is very cool and the music too, 4 the voice what's your plugin's ? comp ? and how you recording the guitars ?

  • @ortaofficial

    Vocal tracks are recorded with SM57 and a pop-filter. Every vocal track has Blockfish compressor with "close-up vocals" preset. Lead and backing vocal group tracks have L1 limiter and vocal compressor, as you can see in the video.

    Guitars are recorded through the instrument-input of my Mackie Onyx Satellite.

    You can see the detailed settings of guitar tracks at 7:12 of this video.

  • Did you use any eq on the vocals at all? They sound ridiculously amazing to be only compressed.

  • Thanks sssShawnnnn! There's no eq on vocals at all

  • This shit kicks ass like bob saget in a jacuzzi.

  • props to you. that is awesome, and how nice of you to release the EP for free :) i'll be sure to grab it as soon as its out as long as you give updates

  • Thanks a lot for sharing! The guitar tone and vocals sound amazing. :O What else did you use on the guitar from 3:12 and 3:16 beside what's shown? I've been using TSE X30, but I haven't managed to get a tone that godly.

  • Thanks sssShawnnnn :) The guitar chain is: TSS Tube Screamer -> SoloC -> Nick Crow 8505 -> Lepou LeCab (s-preshigh impulse) -> C4 -> GreengGate -> EQ There's four tracks of rhythm guitars. You can see the detailed settings of guitar tracks at 7:12 of this video.
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