i thought its supposed to shoot aroud 380 outta the box with .2's. Mine also shoots 470 and to be honest im kinda pissed because i cant use it at any fields. and my mags were not warm. whats up with that...?
Kwa intends their guns for police also so they made their guns to shoot high. To solve the fps i would order a danger werx flute valve for the mp7 or a RA tech Npas
I think that with a longer tightbore barrel the results would be even more dramatic. The barrel would hug the BB better and get a better seal around it, probably boosting FPS a bit more.
I thought power creep relied more on the fact that the heavier BB has a higher inertia, so it takes more gas to move it. This gives it more time in the barrel be thrusted forward by the gas as long as the gas doesn't reach equilibrium with the air. The shorter the barrel the greater the effect due to the higher pressure of gas dispersed in the barrel. Due to the higher inertia, it will retain more energy in flight and strike with more joules. Makes sense to me.
no power creep only works for small length barrel gas guns such as pistol.i saw it on google but for some reason it only worked on certain glock gas pistols.sorry couldnt give you more info and i forgot where i found it.
Glad to see you guys tested it out. Sorry for the confusion. When I learned of it, the person just called it power creep. Old habits die hard. :)
I think the same principle applies to AEG's, though its been awhile since i've reviewed the posts on the subject. Good luck, and looking forward to your next test results.
The reason the guy said this would work is wrong, all bbs are 6mm, unless you use 8mm bbs, so b/c a gas flows freely around the bb in the chamber actually causing less gas in the bb as the bb goes down the barrel, the longer it takes, the heavier it is, the less gas is actually in the barrel The actual reason for this is b/c to find the KE which is J, the equation is KE=mv^2, so as you increase the m, the KE goes up, btw I think your chrono is off, my results for the J were 2 J higher on average
@StephenBaumgarten Your forgetting that when your mass is increased, your velocity is also decreasing due to the extra amount of energy needed to get more mass to the same velocity, and since there is only a set amount of input energy. Your velocity will be decreasing, but as demonstrated by this video, not as much as the mass will be increasing.
@skater91411 Hmm, true, it's a strange phenomenon, like I posted on asf, I'm looking for someone to get the K and X of the spring in the gun, so I can find the PEs, then using the PEs and KE I could find Q, in a way to easier understand this.
This same effect will not occur with electric guns. The way to get a higher fps and more joules with a gas gun is pretty much to just get a longer barrel. Electric guns as you know, are different, getting a long barrel does NOT mean it with more fps or joules of energy. This is why tanaka m700's can shoot up to 750+ fps and a "VSR Hi-capa" can shoot up to 500 fps both using green gas or propane. Longer the barrel the more time it lets the gas expand and push the bb out even faster.
So in other words, an AEG would be puting out completly different numbers than this gun? Givin both have roughly the same fps to start with.
karma661 1 month ago
Is there anyway to counteract this problem? I was looking to get an mp7 but if this is a problem then I can't use it at my field.
hello5893 4 months ago
@hello5893 RA tech NPAS
forrest225 1 month ago
what gas do you use and did you modify it?
Rockstarx199 6 months ago
Well done btrules. (=
Arostyle380 7 months ago
i thought its supposed to shoot aroud 380 outta the box with .2's. Mine also shoots 470 and to be honest im kinda pissed because i cant use it at any fields. and my mags were not warm. whats up with that...?
nukacolamutant101 8 months ago
@nukacolamutant101
Kwa intends their guns for police also so they made their guns to shoot high. To solve the fps i would order a danger werx flute valve for the mp7 or a RA tech Npas
firefly1300 8 months ago
I think that with a longer tightbore barrel the results would be even more dramatic. The barrel would hug the BB better and get a better seal around it, probably boosting FPS a bit more.
Adman234videos 8 months ago
I thought power creep relied more on the fact that the heavier BB has a higher inertia, so it takes more gas to move it. This gives it more time in the barrel be thrusted forward by the gas as long as the gas doesn't reach equilibrium with the air. The shorter the barrel the greater the effect due to the higher pressure of gas dispersed in the barrel. Due to the higher inertia, it will retain more energy in flight and strike with more joules. Makes sense to me.
clich4 8 months ago
Your welcome! lol i love watching your videos man!
gamewiz0070 8 months ago
Even still,that gun shoots pretty fast with the .2's, didn't it?
LeviathanOps 8 months ago
Very cool
scortch30 8 months ago
Basically, the heavier weight maintains the energy transfer... Great vid, thanks for explaining it to us..
SHWELL11 8 months ago
weres the m14 video? ive been waiting for that one
NRairsoft10 9 months ago
no power creep only works for small length barrel gas guns such as pistol.i saw it on google but for some reason it only worked on certain glock gas pistols.sorry couldnt give you more info and i forgot where i found it.
jamiekenn25 9 months ago
Glad to see you guys tested it out. Sorry for the confusion. When I learned of it, the person just called it power creep. Old habits die hard. :)
I think the same principle applies to AEG's, though its been awhile since i've reviewed the posts on the subject. Good luck, and looking forward to your next test results.
btrules 9 months ago
the inertia of th heavier bb make sit harder hitting
AirsoftShizsAndGigs 9 months ago
Yay my comments in the video, cool
Xxsomebody1xX 9 months ago
@Xxsomebody1xX Haha yehhhh so is mine....but I'm wrong.
AirsoftForWinners 9 months ago
Most interesting airsoft video I've seen in the longest time.
Thanks again, Reed...!
ChainSniper 9 months ago
So the Mp7 is stock right?
iwilleaturbabies 9 months ago
Thats quite interesting. You never would think this would happen but it makes sense when you see it.
aderonn 9 months ago
reed you trying to tell us something with the advert for "it gets better"
voodooTHEpreacher 9 months ago
The reason the guy said this would work is wrong, all bbs are 6mm, unless you use 8mm bbs, so b/c a gas flows freely around the bb in the chamber actually causing less gas in the bb as the bb goes down the barrel, the longer it takes, the heavier it is, the less gas is actually in the barrel The actual reason for this is b/c to find the KE which is J, the equation is KE=mv^2, so as you increase the m, the KE goes up, btw I think your chrono is off, my results for the J were 2 J higher on average
StephenBaumgarten 9 months ago
@StephenBaumgarten Your forgetting that when your mass is increased, your velocity is also decreasing due to the extra amount of energy needed to get more mass to the same velocity, and since there is only a set amount of input energy. Your velocity will be decreasing, but as demonstrated by this video, not as much as the mass will be increasing.
skater91411 9 months ago
@skater91411 Hmm, true, it's a strange phenomenon, like I posted on asf, I'm looking for someone to get the K and X of the spring in the gun, so I can find the PEs, then using the PEs and KE I could find Q, in a way to easier understand this.
StephenBaumgarten 9 months ago
Interesting stuff, as you said.
I´ll try to test it at home with my GBB´s....
GBBR´s PoWa !
SPAINPJ 9 months ago
This same effect will not occur with electric guns. The way to get a higher fps and more joules with a gas gun is pretty much to just get a longer barrel. Electric guns as you know, are different, getting a long barrel does NOT mean it with more fps or joules of energy. This is why tanaka m700's can shoot up to 750+ fps and a "VSR Hi-capa" can shoot up to 500 fps both using green gas or propane. Longer the barrel the more time it lets the gas expand and push the bb out even faster.
nejimakana 9 months ago
Welcome back?
(Hopefully)
-Chairmanlao
ChairmanLao1911 9 months ago
This. Is. Insane. Would you please please please do this with some sort of gas sniper to give me a perspective of how much rape-age can be inflicted?
RepetitiveHistory 9 months ago