Age as True Community

[natmanprime]

the flip side of knowing that death is our ultimate fate is that we also have the ability to postpone it indefinitely.

both abilities come from the same brain, in fact they're the same ability, the ability to project in abstraction

and so we retain our prelapsarian innocence of death

PS the difference between innocence and ignorance is that ignorance is willful innocence.

ignore-ance geddit ? ; )

thas why ignorance is no plea before the law,

but innocence IS.

so willful ignorance=tautology

[randyhelzerman]

I'm trying to give you a fair shake here; in your sidebar to a response to me you say this is one of your videos in which you present original ideas... I may just be a bit slow today, but what was one of those original ideas? Some of us are different ages from others, but yet, some of us are the same age as others? help me out here, might be above my head....

[Professoranton]

I guess the point is that we common break people in to groups and categories of identity that stress the division and the difference but we all are the community of the aging. Age seems like it's in the world but it is a relations. It is a position that is not chosen and one that we all share. It could be a rally point of common ground.

[randyhelzerman]

We're all getting older, so we all shoud be nice to each other?

[Professoranton]

Recognize our common plight despite apparent differences. and yeah nice might be good too.

[randyhelzerman]

Always a good idea, but i'm still kinda scratching my head as to the originalilty thereof.

[Professoranton]

How do you think people define community?

[randyhelzerman]

Are you asking "what is the definition of community" or "on what basis do people typically form communities" or something different?

[randyhelzerman]

Try dating a 19-year-old and you'll find that age is as exclusionary of a discrimination as any other we make :-)

[EpifanesEuergetes]

When I was younger I was much older than I'm now.

[Loreleila]

This is great. Thanks for attaching it.

I'd like to say something intelligent but I keep tripping over my own sense of paradox. :)

[notonewhit]

Aristotle said that old age possessed no redeeming value.

Senectus ipsa morbus est: old age is itself a disease.

"It is just as neurotic in old age not to focus upon the goal of death as it is in youth to repress fantasies which have to do with the future." (Jung)

[zezt]

haha what I often experience is, i will see people most likley MUY age and yet i SEE them as old people! Ie, I am seeing them as i saw 'old people' when i was younger, and then it suddenly dawns, SHIT they are the rock n roll generation

of course this happens when i look at 'straight' older people ;)

[robbwindow]

The topic of age in reaction to the extract you sent and what you said which is good and interesting is very good. Ageing for me like responsability is often quite tricky. I like what your saying it makes a lot of sense. But the thought of age says 2 me, you need 2 grow up. I find this if I'm honest quite difficult 2 absorb, if I'm really honest I like being young but in actual fact most stereotypical observations would class me as middle aged, 2 me that sounds old, but to be old is 2 unpopular.

[0ThouArtThat0]

"Among all my patients in the second half of life ... there has not been one whose problem in the last resort was not that of finding a religious outlook on life." C. G. Jung

[jedimasterbooboo]

I have read this quote with three different meanings now depending on what emphasis I place myself on certain words or phrases, please parse this for me? It seems to me that ironically, a lot of projection is required to reading Jung. Help.

[0ThouArtThat0]

I can only tell you what I think he means, which is that each stage in the general course of life (birth, infancy, childhood, adolescence, functional adulthood, responsible adulthood, etc.) is related to a particular psychological mood, at least among his patients. Those in the second half of life seemed more interested in religious--that is moral and spiritual--matters, than economic or material well-being (which was probably the focus in early adulthood and hopefully had been secured).

[jedimasterbooboo]

Thanks!