Welfare Destroys Black People (At home and Abroad)

[LaurMitMom]

I don't totally agree with everything you say; however, you have several great points that I agree with. I'll have to check out some of your other videos.

[mrkjsmooth16]

welfare isn't really the issue. the issue I believe is black women's general disposition to black men. mexican women take welfare too but do they belittle the mexican man for his shortcomings? There are more poor whites in America than the entire population of blacks. this demagoguery against welfare and blacks will inadvertently hurt other people more than us. The point about Africa and foreign is more realistic.

[missysmithy25]

this because when she goes out into the world to date a man, she is looking for a man that typically reminds her of her father, not of Lil Wayne or 50 cent. But because 70% black kids are born into single parent homes, a lot black girls, especially when they're young, are looking for the thugs like Lil Wayne because he notion of masculinity has been over-exaggerated by the black men in the media whose roles, for the most part are stereotypical. Sad reality...

[rrff7755]

@missysmithy25 your comment's really interesting and clever. i'd like to ask, in your opinion, is a patriarchal family system with a bread winning father essential and most desirable within a family? is the lack thereof amongst the key problems for black people? i noticed (if i understand correctly) that you implied that black women reject submission too much. I've always found the idea of being submissive to ones husband very disturbing, but is there a rightful place for marital submission?

[missysmithy25]

@rrff7755 No not necessarily. I don't think that a patriarchal system is the only desirable system for a family unit. I don't think that there is anything wrong with having two bread winners in a household. However, I do believe that there exists a specific social contract between men and women- not one that is underpinned by radical patriarchy where the wife must act in an obsequious manner; but rather one that is aligned with our fundamental, instinctual biological urges.

[missysmithy25]

@rrff7755 For example, a mothers instinctive need to nurture and the fathers instinctive need to provide and protect are biological endowments. But some black

Women seem to disregard and misunderstand this and it has to do with the reality that a lot of these women were raised in households where their mother made ALL decisions. So when they encounter a man who wants to nurture and provide he may feel suffocated and emasculated by her impulse to control things.

[missysmithy25]

@rrff7755 This is why some black men would say that some black woman are controlling, aggressive, domineering and dominating. There are other cultural and social dynamics that come into play as well but that was the gist of it.

[rrff7755]

@missysmithy25 really interesting, thank you.

[missysmithy25]

If both parents are present and are fulfilling their roles that are predetermined by biological urge and then again reinforced by a patriarchal system, then the children have a solid representation of how they should be and act. The black boy would have a lucid understanding of manhood and would not have to resort to hip hip/ destructive african american culture to find an answer to this. And also the black daughter would not have a warped hyper-masculine interpretation of manhood.

[missysmithy25]

feminine and masculine tones of behaviour. This is why many black women think that 'submission' is a curse word. this also where some of the other stereotypes of black women being aggressive, dominating and domineering come into play. On a fundamental level, the conventional black family unit is upside down. the fact of the matter is, it is necessary for both the father and mother to be in household as they are both crucial to the social, moral, behavioural development of the children.

[missysmithy25]

But the problem is when these boys get older there are going to be certain aspects of manhood that these they don't have and because they grow up seeing only mom making decisions, they are going to comfortable with female leadership. Thus the matriarchal system repeats itself. As the black girls, they believe that it is right for a woman to be the head of the household and make decisions because she grew up witnessing her mother exhibiting both 

[missysmithy25]

what can be done to augment the culture? Gish, i dont know where to start. I guess the first thing to do is to empower black boys. There seems to be a warped sense of masculinity among young black boys and of course this is based off of the hip hop culture. Because 70% of black kids are born into single parent home with only mommy being there, black boys do not have a man to teach them manhood so they look elsewhere to find that example.

[nigerachy1]

Dude, you're talking out of your ass.

[rrff7755]

@AmanJohnX using economics, you're basing everything you know about the most EFFICIENT way to use money and gain profit and applying it to society. is capital growth the most important thing for society? it might be for you, but to other people, equity, education, healthcare etc. are more important aims, especially in a world where resources are limited and material growth is not sustainable. we're not all too stupid to understand the economics, we just care about people too. generosity IS good.

[AmanJohnX]

@rrff7755 Awkward silence. I HATE when peopel misunderstand me, you seem to a lot - I NEVER said money was good, I'm not saying things should be the most efficient, I'm saying things should be just and ethical...my whole LIFE about more than material things - YOU are making the FALSE assumption that being generous helps education and healthcare, these are NOT important or ETHICAL aims of the government.

[rrff7755]

@AmanJohnX ...economics doesn't reason that minimum wage is unethical or unjust, it reasons that it's inefficient. so why are you favouring abolishing minimum wage? and it's not a false assumption that government investment in education and healthcare is unhelpful AT ALL, all the best systems worldwide are in socialist or communist countries. these are not important or ethical goals for government AS FAR AS YOU ARE CONCERNED but elsewhere worldwide, people don't agree and they're succeeding.

[rrff7755]

@AmanJohnX and i'd still love for you to address my other question - the main point of which was "even if you believe poorer people shouldn't get as good education or healthcare because they haven't worked as hard, would you say the same applies to their children?"

[swpdisciple]

@AmanJohnX There are so many incorrect assumptions here that I don't even know where to start. Why are you using black people essentially in tandem with welfare and the poor? Did you know that the govt spends less than .5% of GDP on welfare? And black people are less than 40% of those on welfare. The only correct assumption I heard was that entitlements hurt black people following the Civil RIght's act of 1964, but that's more complicated than you outlined. I have an economics degree btw...

[budyhead2]

I think you yourself is misguided. There is no such thing as a right or wrong system. Political and Economical systems are "Social Constructs", they are designed and built by humans and as such are both correct and incorrect at the same time. Neither Socialism, Capitalism or Libertarianism are better or worse than the other. For every con in each of these system a Pro exists and vice-versa.

Blanket statements like "Countries in Africa has no private ownership", ruins your credibility

[AmanJohnX]

@budyhead2 It is a blanket statement because it is true. Have you seen the research? Okay, we can play sociology games and say everything is a construct, our genders, our attitudes, our beliefs, but what ruins your credibility is your idea that systems are not better or worse...of COURSE they are, if you have a goal...if your goal is inefficiency, socialism is your way...if your goal is prosperity, at least monetarily, then reality shows economic freedom is the answer.

[AmanJohnX]

@budyhead2 I hate having to put up with crap like this. Right now I have 8 brothers and sisters living in Tanzania under a crappy government, a government my father is a part of...it bothers me to know that my own blood suffers b/c less economic freedom IS worse than economic freedom...only people who have the luxury to sit behind a computer can say one is not better than the other.

[rrff7755]

As i've studied economics i understand the reasoning for minimum wages. when you draw out the graphs, etc. it's plain to see that minimum wages are less efficient, but the question of how it effects workers in the real world is a different altogether. people can barely live off the money they earn working full time at minimum wage, if it was removed or lowered, all that would happen is exploitation and people having to work an unhealthy amount just to live.

[AmanJohnX]

@rrff7755 People can barely live BECAUSE there is a minimum wage...if it was taken away, people could earn MORE money...less people would work part time as MOST people who have minimum wage do.....these people rob people who actually NEED the money of decent wages. 

[rrff7755]

@AmanJohnX so what do you expect would actually happen to the demand, supply and price of labour? i would have expected that in the us economy, typical minimum wage jobs would increase and unemployment would fall, but nearly all of those people would be working at a wage lower than the existing minimum wage - a wage most couldn't live off. what do you reckon?

[rrff7755]

@AmanJohnX also, i'd really love it if you answered my other question. i think it's really the key opposing argument to yours and i'm really interested to hear what you think about it. really enjoying your videos at the moment aman :)

[loickandtinie]

one of ur best and videos ever!

[missysmithy25]

but once again, there is a cultural side and financial incentive to this as well. some black kids who have the fundamental requirements that are necessary to have a minimum wage job choose not to because some believe that selling drugs is simply more lucrative. And working of minimum wage is not 'fast money.'

[missysmithy25]

I dont really understand how young black kids would not qualify for a minimum wage job. Most minimum wage job do not require educational qualifications such a high school diploma. For example, you don't need a high school diploma to be a cashier or a stock boy at a grocery store. Maybe you meant to say that some black kids from the ghetto do not have the basic requirements of reading and writing at a particular grade level. for instance, a 17 year old boy reading at a grade 4 level

[AmanJohnX]

@missysmithy25 Poor black kids can't compete with middle class white kids....businesses choose to locate their businesses in areas where, though wages are equal (minimum) they can get better workers...middle class. Anyways, there are way too many reasons why MW is not desirable.

[missysmithy25]

and also, you cannot simply have a society where there there is no monetary standard for employment such as minimum wage. Although paying someone for one dollar an hour is not immoral, poverty would flourish. Relative poverty to be specific. Relative poverty is the problem in North America; not absolute poverty. The objective of minimum wage is to establish a even playing field.

[JIYkp]

I'm pretty sure that different forms of government and levels of involvement work better at separate stages in a country's economic and political development. I think the problem lies in the transition between governments as countries grow.

[AmanJohnX]

@JIYkp Give them private property, and let them move from manufacturing to more service oriented jobs like they did in Thailand ...I think it's thailand.

[rrff7755]

for example, goods with positive externalities like education and healthcare are horrbily under supplied in free market conditions. the best school and healthcare systems are in communist and socialist economies. profit is not the appropriate motive in these markets. even if you believe poorer people don't deserve as good education or healthcare because they haven't worked as hard, would you say the same applies to their children?

[Tregnier52]

@rrff7755 Excellent point. 

[missysmithy25]

@rrff7755 i agree with you completely. profit is not the right motive to use for healthcare and education.

[rrff7755]

you're not discussing any of the opposing points and i'd be interested to see what you have to say about them. 

[missysmithy25]

@orlanduce Ya I agree with you. Those are some major problems in the black community that need to be rectified

[orlanduce]

@missysmithy25 thanks

[orlanduce]

i beg 2 differ bro. what about crack, air jordans, gin & juice, SWAG, grey goose. they've been hurting us for generations.

[Tregnier52]

@orlanduce Good point!

[kazooga1234]

ron paul will also get rid of the entitlement programs that helped you out

[kazooga1234]

ron paul doesnt know anything he believes if we have no cops that people will just do what they are supposed to and thats not true at all without the EPA and FDA we wont have safe food or medicines without the FDA we wont know what the side effect to meds are let alone what meds are comptable with eachother and without the EPA enjoy having lakes on fire again and then the gold standered that was a major part in the Great Depression it will make MORE people on welfare and starve to death

[kazooga1234]

ecnomic freedom doesnt work because we wont have jobs in america like whats happening now because its the government that creates jobs and bill clinton has proven that with how many jobs he created and since then we have only lost jobs for the most part because corporations dont want to make jobs and the government doesnt have the moeny to make jobs and then there are people who think more tax cuts will solve no jobs but that just makes it so THERE ARE EVEN LESS JOBS

[kazooga1234]

@nostradamn81 except that he doesnt even realize that america is last with the econmy and every single country is doing better then america with health care (in the devoloped countrys) and every single country also live longer then americans except for cuba but they live just as long with much much less pay then america

[rrff7755]

@kazooga1234 spot on. if america is the most libertarian out of all developed nations with the least socialist economic policy, why is it doing so much worse than the rest of us?

[kazooga1234]

@rrff7755 its because in america libertarian just means more extreme republican and the republicans moto is kill all now the libertarians (like ron paul and i think its only ron paul) says to stop the wars but everything else he wants to do will kill everybody and other countrys like get rid of the EPA and go on the gold standard what will kill people in america only are getting rid of the entitlement programs and getting rid of the FDA as well as many other things

[AmanJohnX]

@rrff7755 LMFAO - America is NOT the most libertarian nation! Why are people SO limited? Why are people SO quick to think they now stuff? Kazooga perennially says the same garbage like a propagandist, I get way too many messages to pay attention. they ALWAYS misunderstand my fundamental arguments.

[AmanJohnX]

@rrff7755 Kazooga always defines things by the people who follow the idea and not the idea....this is the type of person who would confuse being a Christian with Christianity. someone who cannot think beyond these limits is not someone I'm going to really get into it with. I make my points clear in my video, if people still can't keep up after the dozenth video about government, and can't learn for themselves, then I'm not going to keep wasting my time.

[kazooga1234]

when i do research on real qualified econmists they say we should do something like single payer or the public option because it does keep costs down and they do say that japan has the best health care system and that canada is doing much better then america and that AMERICA IS LAST WITH ITS ECONMY

[kazooga1234]

corporations also are making more money after taxes and the minimum wage is to just make sure people are getting a fair amount of money if we dont have that then we have slave labor and it doesnt matter if they are white or black and the minimum wage jobs were created because we dont want people to be that desperate for people to be paid 1 cent an hour and not be able to afford anything and it has nothing to do with blacks and i would love your links that prove what you are saying

[kazooga1234]

the thing is corporations do have the money to do that and the CEOs are making millions of dollars for themselves and that shouldnt be allowed either and the minimum wage has gone down in the years not up like the lies say it has gone down 60% if not more

[iinventedthequestion]

Ron Paul 2012

[kazooga1234]

minimum wage has gone down so much and it was started to help people and make sure that their was a fair percentage of money going out to make sure that it wasnt slave labor for ANYBODY and if we get rid of minimum wage then we will once again have people working for pennys and we cant allow that to happen and if anydboy says that it wont they are a morons because i can easily prove that with links

[kazooga1234]

what you are saying is woman who have a baby and cant leave the bed for more then 5 mins a day shouldnt have help because there are many people who have health problems like that and TYT did a story naming all the health problems people are just born with and cant afford the medical cost on their own and the only way to bring down the prices of pills is to have single payer or better yet alan graysons public option where if people dont want to pay for the government health care then they wont

[kazooga1234]

@kazooga1234 and it would be states can also opt out but right now since we dont have a public option we need to have welfare because abortion is also not get able in a decent amount of states right now PUTTING BABYS ON WELFARE and its not peoples fauts that THERE ARE NO JOBS

[missysmithy25]

3) I know there are women out there who purposely get pregnant to receive government assistance. It's disgusting to see that some women look at welfare as a career opportunity. But at the end of the day, I don't think that the child should suffer at the expense of their parents making bad choices.

[missysmithy25]

2) and there are people who make poor decisions because of the lack of economic consequences. But is that the fault of the children that their parents made those decisions? If the innocent children are already at an economic disadvantage because of their parents' detrimental behavior then maybe welfare is a appropriate role for the government and maybe it is justifiable.

[missysmithy25]

Aman, I watched your video twice and something else occurred to me. In addition to the legitimate roles of government you said they should "do a few things for kids because they don't have a choice." But, isn't welfare predominantly geared towards women with children? I agree that welfare provides disincentives in achieving personal economic stability

[flexolos]

great video but if you can, please tell us all your sources in the description you do mention some in this video and i'm sure you get your data from many different books or articles but still

what you are saying is questionable and if someone is saying sth questionable he has to provide sources.

I think we all agree that what you are saying souds like it would make sense, but we cant proove it without your sources.

[AmanJohnX]

@flexolos Just watch the channel LibertyPen, for me trying to find sources about minimum wage being bad, would be like asking someone to give them the sources for how they know the alphabet. sorry, I'm actually just really tired, but seriously, you'll do better if you just watch the youtube channel LibertyPen.

[flexolos]

@AmanJohnX ok thx for the advice

[NothinRhymesWitJacob]

AMAN, could you do a video on Solitude vs Community. Thank you !

[TheKaitn]

how come welfare splits up a black family but not a white? and why is it so hard for a black kid to stay in and finish school?

[TheWeakMinded]

@TheKaitn So far as I have seen and studied, much of the problem is attributed how society acts. Yes, I know many more issues exist and some of which are much deeper. Socitey pushes emphasis into stereotypes and people attempt to fit them. Bieng "Cool or "hard" are more promoted in black culture (via tv, movies, etc). Also, much of what a person grows up with will never leave them with out a concentrated effort. If ou grew up "ghetto", you must make an effort not to act as such.

[st3jace]

@AmanJohnX thanks for opening this up Aman. I always learn something new when I watch your videos.

[st3jace]

@missysmithy25 I used to get made fun of all the time because I use proper english and don't sag my pants so I know where you're coming from. Thanks for enlightening our history. This is a great topic.

[missysmithy25]

I remember when i was at work conversing with some of my colleagues and one them asked, 'what are you majoring in at university?' I said, 'mathematics.'

She said, 'You must really smart.'

And then, my black male colleague said, 'Ya, for a black person.'

Stuff like that pisses me the hell off. Its so sad... SMH

[cobainbride]

@missysmithy25

indeed

[missysmithy25]

so, although I agree that economic freedom is necessary and beneficial to the black community, an augmentation of African American culture is crucial for the betterment of the race as a whole.

[AmanJohnX]

@missysmithy25 How do we change the culture? I'm proud of you, btw.

[missysmithy25]

7)I can think of two black men off the top of my head who sell drugs because they think its 'cool.' these are part of the harsh realities of black culture. You have black people who maintain that education is the 'white way.' You have a lot of black girls who love the 'bad boys' and 'thugs' and wouldn't even look twice at a black guy who 'talks like he's white.' I can't tell you how many times I've been called 'white washed' just because of I talk. Its a real problem.

[missysmithy25]

6)Other communities seem to have one role as to how there men are suppose to be which is somewhat congruent with a patriarchal system- that is the provider. In the black community there is two. One that is based off of the dominated patriarchal society and the other which is the 'bad boy, thug, culture' This culture has become very very destructive because it glorifies the drug trafficking, prostitution and a like.

[missysmithy25]

5)Ever since the civil rights movement, the economics was removed from the black community. Many black men lost their jobs and this created a role reversal in black households where black women were now the bread winners. For some reason this pattern is still among us. The black community has adopted somewhat a matriarchal system where black women are mainly raising the kids and black men are either absent or dysfunctional in about 70% of the cases.

[missysmithy25]

4) You also talked about the lack qualifications that prevent blacks from having certain job opportunities which in turn relegates them to engage in unproductive and/or illegal activities. I agree with this completely. However it needs to be acknowledged that there is a destructive cultural mentality associated with this. I do not think that education among the black community is appreciated as much as it is in others; or at least among young black boys.

[AmanJohnX]

@missysmithy25 isn't part of the mindset the result of circumstances? Clearly before they were doing well, and now the culture is depraved? What changed? Government policies among other things.

[missysmithy25]

3) Black people were proud to see themselves as 'equal' in the sense that they were now able to go into white stores, movie theatres, libraries etc; something that they were forbidden to do before. Today, when I look at the black community in comparison to others, black businesses are virtually non-existent. The Tulsa Oklahomas no longer exist. There is no economic network with black people. Thats a problem.

[missysmithy25]

2) On average, one dollar circulated this community about 87 times before it left it. But a race riot ensued and the entire community was literally burnt down to the ground in merely a few hours leaving thousands of blacks homeless. But back to social integration. Although social integration is progressive, it hindered the black community because black businesses suffered.

[missysmithy25]

Aman excellent video. As we go back in history we will see that during the civil rights movement black people focused more so on social integration NOT economic integration. It should be said that the black community was much better off during the Jim Crow era when blacks had no choice but to defend and support themselves. Look at Tulsa, Oklahoma for example. This black town was so wealthy and dependent it was called 'Black Wall Street.'

[ChuKhanh]

lol "at home"

[CrysGilbert]

This was great! u make me think.

[toywitme2009]

dead on the money

[Xone7]

The overwhelming majority of people on welfare are WHITE.

[AmanJohnX]

@Xone7 Yes, but that means nothing, it's about what proportion of each race is on welfare....the proportion of black people on welfare relative to the proportion of white people on welfare is much much greater. 

[Xone7]

@AmanJohnX Why should race play a role if the system is universally wrong to begin with?

[AmanJohnX]

@Xone7 the System is universally wrong, with concentration of my wrongness on particular races. which is why race plays a role

[Xone7]

@AmanJohnX I justthink that some politicians love to play the race card when they talk about welfare abuse in order to garner support from their racist constituencies. That turns me off so badly.

[Xone7]

@AmanJohnX Arent most people on welfare children, elderly, or disabled? Shouldnt there be some social safety net for human beings in America? I love the dialouge that you provide my friend!

[kazooga1234]

@AmanJohnX what you dont understand as well is that blacks are still being paid less and woman who are black are being paid the least amount

[kazooga1234]

@Xone7 ya and people always blame it on the blacks but its just a lie the republicans say and its mainly because of birth problems as well so they cant even do anything on their own

[Xone7]

What about CORPORATE WELFARE?

[AmanJohnX]

@Xone7 Corporate welfare is the result of the welfare state....in capitalism that would NEVER happen, it's against the very definition of capitalism. The same people that think government should make us have healthcare can think their same principles for justifying the government in bailouts and unjust wars overseas.

[Xone7]

@AmanJohnX I agree with you here!!

[Xone7]

@AmanJohnX I do think its ok if a corporation borrows public dollars (ie Detroit auto companies) in order to save jobs if the money is paid back.

[kazooga1234]

@AmanJohnX no its not the corporation welfare is just them using the loopholes created so they can take the governments money and screw over the people who cant work because of health problems since birth

[kazooga1234]

@Xone7 nobody cares about that when it can help screw over the poor and middle class wolf-pac(dot)com to get money out of poltics

[TheOriginalNightHawk]

Future president? :) 

[kazooga1234]

@TheOriginalNightHawk only if you want somebody who doesnt look at how well other countrys are doing like canada they live a hell of a lot longer then we do and they have single payer and they pay a lot less as well doesnt it prove that single payer works extremely well

[TheOriginalNightHawk]

@kazooga1234 well thats why i said future president lol silly buns

[kazooga1234]

@TheOriginalNightHawk and i was saying that he wouldnt be at any time because he doesnt even understand that canadas health care system as well as every single countrys health care system is working better then americas and they all have some type of universal health care system most countrys have single payer and even cuba pays a hell of a lot less for health care and live as long as we do and every place as lives much longer then we do

[TheOriginalNightHawk]

@kazooga1234 Theres many ways to build a chair. Your way isint the only one.

[kazooga1234]

@TheOriginalNightHawk fine then tell me why is it that other countrys are doing much better then us in health care and we are the ONLY COUNTRY NOT USING THE GOVERNMENT FOR HEALTH CARE

and how do you want to make health care cheaper by not using the government because i am not the only one that wants to know so does alan grayson

[JaceJohanson]

I second the Ayn Rand suggestion. Phenominal stuff. "Atlas Shrugged," "The Fountainhead," and "Anthem" are all must-reads for someone with this type of mind.

I'll suggest as well, push the hypothesis further: is government actually necessary AT ALL? Can not everything the government is SUPPOSED to offer be offered better, cheaper, faster, and to more people, when handled without the blanket threat of imprisonment and violence if you don't want the service or product? Wha' d'ya think?

[BigHavener86]

very well said my friend!

[RoboTyphoon1403]

Everything you stated in your video is spot on, and I wish more people could agree. The three things I hate in today's society are taxes, health care, and welfare, because they are all corrupt and unjust, and I KNOW I'm not the only one fed up with it. I wouldn't be surprised to see something very drastic happen in the next fifteen years with how our government handles those three issues, whether it be a public revolt or anything else, things need changing, and it will happen one way or another.

[TYTHAARTIST]

yeah it promotes laziness.... only people that get a pass for me are severely disabled people.

[MRSketch09]

If you were going to say welfare is not the governments responsibility, may as well just said "Its not governments responsibility to redistribute wealth" because in a nutshell, that's what the welfare program does.

Also have you read "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn rand, I'm making my way through this beast (its an easy read for the most part).. just HUGE.. at least when I am used to 200 pg books.

Also, what you were talking about, black people.. and politicians playing that card, class-warfare?

[jerrylittlemars]

amen amen amen. I learned about this in economic too! I wish they would make THAT mandatory in high schools, instead of History and other mindless crap. That way people can get their heads out their ass, follow the money, and fix this corrupt system!

[AmanJohnX]

@jerrylittlemars YES...but idk if teachers even know this stuff! LOL you should be a teacher, get these kids minds right!

[woofuuckimswaggedout]

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