@IFistTHeInnocent Wow, what an intelligent statement. Did you know that there are BBJ competitions with no striking? Also, please upload a video of you competing so we can see how fighting a resisting opponent should look. Maybe you can teach me something. I'm always willing to learn even after over 40 years in the martial arts.
@sifupr Maybe I can teach you something, I've been practicing brazilian jiu jitsu for 3 years. Its about fighting smarter, not impractical stances and predetermined stylistic punches.
@TokyoMystify It's 41 years and I'm not bragging. Just stating a fact. Tengo alumnos en Farjardo y Humacao y voy a PR para dar seminarios. Donde tu eres en la isla? Mi plan es pasar a PR de manera permanente. Tal vez podemos hacer frente a la próxima vez que visite.
IMO competition is very different from self defence...
There is no judge that stops the fight on the streets - and you get no trophies when you win - except a destroyed human being with a cracked skull.
Instead of growing the confidence trough waving arms in a competition - I think its better to train methodical to a high standard - then gradually increase tempo - and variations as you master each situation. These guys had very little wing coming out - why bother competing at such a level?
@Tequn9q That's exactly what I'd expect of someone who can't or won't fight. So you either get into street fights or you compete. Competing makes more sense. You never know your capabilities until you've been hit really hard and have to continue.
@Kos45 Thanks. I take the negative responses as a result of people not having fought competitively. It used to bother me now I just laugh and tell them to compete, then upload a video so that we can learn how fighting should be done. I'm willing to learn something different.
@sifupr sifu , you were a student of ducan leung am ii correct? ,sifu duncan leungs wing chun is the best for application in sparring , and from the videos of apllied wing chun , i see a whole array of diffrent wing chun techniques being used effectively , sigung leung 's is so effective that his students fight profrsssional thay muay thay price fighters . Now my question is , altough your students also fight with succes , why do i see only chainpunching ,front kick , and shin block ?
leung ting wing tsun is a poor excuse of mma type fighting. it might win in these type of competitions where everyone is poorly trained but it will not work against people who are properly trained.
by the way, what happend to your famous bong lap technique at 1:30? it seemed to have worked great (sarcasm)
the only reason he dropped the guy, with a hook, is because he "gambled" and won the lottery...any real wing chun guy would have shot straight in if you took your hands off your center
@YoungCrs I've had personal issues with other Sifus so I understand you. Leung Ting and my Sifu had issues a while back. This crap has to stop. I know that youtube is a public forum and my censoring people's posts goes against my grain, but there are young people who view this channel and they shouldn't be subjected to foul language or other childish posts. So please don't trash Leung Ting or any WC SifuT here.
@sifupr well sir, with all due respect, your template response does not directly prove your skill what so ever. the only thing it shows is that you like to brag. okay, #1. you trained with 6 different "masters" in which you have had "personal issues with" ha ha ha ha ha ha i'm going to leave it at that. #2 you learned cantonese, which i'm sure that made you a better fighter (sarcasm) #3 you fought full contact and you train WC fighters...this is where it gets interesting...
@sifupr mainly because a student's skill is a reflection of the teacher's experience and skill. judging by the way your students fight, at best, its ehhhhh. put him in an mma gym and he would have sharper hooks, throws, and ground game. don't get me wrong, a win is a win, no doubt. but you have to ask yourself, is that really wing chun? is that a reflection of drill training? chi sao training? or is it just an all out brawl, where one does what ever it takes to win?
@sifupr of course winning in a fight is a good thing but not at the cost of efficiency, directness, and simplicity. having CONTROL is a sign of mastery of not only one's self but one's martial art. if thats not the purpose of training wing chun then why train it at all? why not train mma instead if you are going to ignore what wing chun has to bring to the table? I admit i might not have as many years of training as you do, but I do have enough training to be able to see the flaws
@YoungCrs Any fighter makes mistakes, even pros. The way to correct your mistakes is to test what you do outside of the class room. That's what they are doing.
@sifupr in not only myself but also in others. I have not only seen but also felt my sifu in action to be able to decipher true wing chun...which in the most basic form: is attacking your opponenet, if your opponenet puts something in your path you simply move it out the way in order for your next attack to go through and in wing chun's case the most efficient attack is the straight punch
@sifupr like i said, wing chun in the most basic explanation is attacking. if your opponents hands aren't up, no problem, punches go straight through. but if his hands are up or blocking the path of your punches, you simply move them out the way for your punches to go through. of course there are the small details that make this style of in-fighting work like: facing, two hands on top, making your opponent wrong, taking position, etc.
@sifupr if you read ALL of my comment you would have read "the only hook i am aware of is in the biu jee form, and the biu jee form is usually used for emergency situations where rules/principles must be broken in order to survive" if you are AWARE of any other hooks in the previous forms please point them out...HISTORY has nothing to do with PRACTIACAL application in today's MODERN style of fighting. and to add on to that, the most important thing my sifu has taught me is to train what works
@sifupr and abandon what doesn't therefore enabling adabtibilty to adversity.
i don't mean to trash any other sifu but i call it like i see it. i've seen leung ting's videos, i've seen his many students, i've even talked to his sihings, many, in fact all of his sihings that i've talked to, have no respect for that lieing money hungry business man, keyword here, business man, not fighter. But at the end of the day i'm going to do what do and you are going to do what you do, but the only thing
@sifupr "ask"? haha, not sure what that is suppose to mean, but ok...i didn't directly say anything about a specific sifu, i was merely pointing out their style of fighting is not what i would call wing chun because it does not follow any of the soul principles of wing chun, therefore not wing chun. if it sounded like i was talking trash about another sifu, that was not my intention and i apologize.
@YoungCrs Ok, I've probably done WC the same or similar to what you do during my 41 years in WC. You reply to me shows me that you don't know all you think you do. Yip Man's Sifu's Sifu. Leung Jan. Created a version on Wing Chun that doesn't have SNY.CK, or Bil Jee. It's called Gu Lo Wing Chun. So my question to you is since the famous Leung Jan taught it would you consider it legitimate? My point is that just because you aren't familiar with a version of WC doesn't make it wrong.
@sifupr i understand that leung jan had the wing chun of his time and we have the wing chun of our time. over the generations people (mainly sifus) have tweaked the system, they have learned from their sifus, based on their experience. Each sifu has a different interpretation of the concepts of wing chun therefore each lineage will look different. At the end of the day, if we aren't continuing to evolve then the system will become lost. that is all i am saying.
@sifupr i'm trying to say through previous comments and this comment is that: you should not live in a fantasy world thinking what worked a hundred years ago will work in today's modern world. wing chun, like any fighting style, is always evolving. if you choose to fall victim to natural selection, then that is entirely your choice. good day.
this is good Wing Chun I see here and I trained for a many years Leung Ting WingTsun. Don't know what some guys comment about. There are hooks, round techniques many stances, offline footwork etc in Yip Man Wing Chun, also.
@jomushin7 the only hook i am aware of is in the biu jee form, and the biu jee form is usually used for emergency situations where rules/principles must be broken in order to survive...the reason you don't use hooks in normal situations is because it takes longer to reach the opponent than a straight line would. with wing chun being a close distance style strikes like the straight punch is one of the main strikes for a reason....but hey, to each his own
@YoungCrs I see comments from people like you so often that I've made a template response. It's too long for youtube so here's the shorthand without dissing anyone. Me: doing Wing Chun since 1970 with four direct students of Yip Man and in two non Yip Man WC styles. Learned to speak Cantonese in order get WC terms. Fought in full contact events with WC and still training WC fighters. You?
@YoungCrs The key words in your original posts were "(that) I am aware of". Yet you made an uneducated statement about what you "think" WC is. I say uneducated because you wrote from a position of the limited understanding you have of Wing Chun. I've been doing WC for 41 years and I'm still learning historical things about WC that many don't know. Young man, don't just believe what you Sifu says. I don't. I'm intelligent enough to research for myself.
I think looking at this you can see the guy is very very good at fighting . personally I would trust my shapes more this isnt easy to do and in line with a previous comment is why wing chun people sometimes are portrayed wrongly. WC wasnt designed to be brute force use your opponents energies and understand body structures and positions to give you the open line of attack, Personally too many fighters forget this beginners concept and use brute force to compensate for poor technique.
@Cal1skater Without knowing all the many different WC lineages including non-Yip Man lineages you can't speak for all WC. I'm sure you're aware of a WC system with no forms. You can't say it's not WC because Gu Lo WC was developed by Yip Man's Si-Gung.
@sifupr Here I am again. Watching these videos I am really not impressed of the fighting. Maybe you know how we roll in Holland and our Muay Thai and MMA. This would be punished directly cuz its more uncontrolled fighting than really knowing how to fight. So my question is did the guy trained for this and what WC technique did he use. Also did he move the outside and did paksao lapsao ect. To me it was a WC stance and then he was boxing but without really knowing how to box. Sorry for my comment
@minasz This was their very first amateur competition. So I hope you aren't expecting professional performances. Please got to WC techniques in lei tai to see the WC techniques. You have commented on many of the videos I've posted. Since youtube won't allow urls to be posted here. There is a Yahoo group where members are required to upload a clip of themselves doing something. I'm sure you have not problem joining and posting clips that we can all learn from.
@sifupr My question is not about if it their first or 10th fight. Cuz I see they didnt compete a lot. But my question is why dont I see wing chun techniques. Or did i miss them. About me. Ok Ill upload one of my fights here on youtube. And yes there are many great fighters, but in another video comment you were discussing and sharing that the person or we should watch THIS video clip to see how WC works in a fullcontact fight. Thats why I m asking. I alwayz want to learn.
Saying "what they are doing is not wing chun" is like saying "what lyoto machida does is not karate." Wing Chun in any lineage will emphasize the application of concepts over specific techniques in any situation. For those of you upset that this doesn't resemble the wing chun you see in Prodigal Son or in the Ip Man movies, know that it often will not under pressure. Besides, these guys have the balls to prove themselves and their art in competition. All technicalities aside, that's what counts.
@sazami2 the name of the fourth song is "100 techniques" by shynobi. It's an instrumental of a fairly unknown song, and as far as i know the artist can only be found on youtube. the rest of the songs i have no idea :P
Bong Sao Wu sao (together) for me, seems the most practical for anything being thrown at you. It really doesn't matter what's thrown at you, you can use this from any angle.
Getting closer! Good work! I think there will be a tipping point when someone with enough athleticism and guts shows that WC works. Once people SEE that it can work it will open a flood gate. Fighting is all about commitment and courage and it's hard to have that when WC guys are getting whipped all over you tube. Videos like this will help burst that mental barrier.
This is not Wing Tsun or Wing Chun is like street fight without technique, i'm agree with the guy above commenting that a medium boxer coul beat any of this participant fighters.
It is WC. Just not the WC you do. BTW do you compete to test your skills? If not your comments are of no value. If you do compete please contribute something here so that we can all get better.
Yes it was, it's the only video I've seen where I actually see wing chun, or even kung fu for that matter. Notice the entrance technique, the sweeps is a wc tech., front kick, chain pucnes, although not all were chain; you can see a bong sao / wu sao defense. I have to say it's hard to keep to technique with adrenaline running through you.
Good point. You can't do perfectly choreographed techniques against someone bent on wrecking you. The only way to test is a technique will really work is to test it against a resisting opponent who is really trying to hurt you. Our guys were testing the bong sau round punch attack and our raised leg entry. Which they did.
What you see on video doesn't quite show you what some1 can do. I worked out w/Tim Weber in past, if he were fighting a boxer, he'd strike boxers arms into their own face because they hold arms to close to their face,he'd also bust up his arms via strikes.The front kick can be used similar to Teep in Muay Thai to keep a boxer away than U can sweep the leg.Boxers R too limited w/what they have in their arsenal. But Adrenaline can get the best of anyone & tech. can go out the window at times.
Wing Chun has round punches and uppercuts. They are in many lineages forms. I hope you see the bong round punch entries. The simultaneous blocks, etc. It is impossible to like like choreographed fighting when someone is trying to knock you head off.
Ok then. If Wind Chun has round punches like hooks, then there you go, there hooks. I never saw hook punches in the Wing Chun in as much as I know about Wing Chun. But, I am not Wing Chun expert either. Either way, the guys in this vid look good and I would want to fight them.
I'm no expert, but I keep hearing from people that there really weren't any non-straight punches in WC until pretty recently. Although it's good to see that the ridiculousness of the simultaneous blocking delusion is starting to become apparent! Keep it up, you are certainly the cream of the crop of The Chun.
You dont see many people using kung fu patterns in these comps good to actually see people using Kung fu movements I seen bong sau alot of wing chun in these clips.
is this wing chun or boxing?
volikoto 1 month ago
@volikoto There are two different Wing Chun students in yellow fighting people from other styles.
sifupr 1 month ago
Some Wing Chun theory here: Wing Chun (TWC) Central line theory
sifupr 1 month ago
looks like a bunch of retards blindly throwing punches. How can you have a competition with no ground fighting?
IFistTHeInnocent 4 months ago
@IFistTHeInnocent Wow, what an intelligent statement. Did you know that there are BBJ competitions with no striking? Also, please upload a video of you competing so we can see how fighting a resisting opponent should look. Maybe you can teach me something. I'm always willing to learn even after over 40 years in the martial arts.
sifupr 4 months ago
@sifupr Maybe I can teach you something, I've been practicing brazilian jiu jitsu for 3 years. Its about fighting smarter, not impractical stances and predetermined stylistic punches.
IFistTHeInnocent 4 months ago
@IFistTHeInnocent Please do. I'm in NYC and South Jersey. Where are you located?
sifupr 4 months ago
@sifupr Lol Jersey, that explains it. I'm on the opposite side of the country.
IFistTHeInnocent 4 months ago
@IFistTHeInnocent Actually, I'm from Detroit and moved to Brooklyn. I do plan on traveling to LA soon to do some training. Are you near LA?
sifupr 4 months ago
@sifupr 40 years, yet here you are, bragging on youtube.
TokyoMystify 3 months ago 2
@TokyoMystify It's 41 years and I'm not bragging. Just stating a fact. Tengo alumnos en Farjardo y Humacao y voy a PR para dar seminarios. Donde tu eres en la isla? Mi plan es pasar a PR de manera permanente. Tal vez podemos hacer frente a la próxima vez que visite.
sifupr 1 month ago
IMO competition is very different from self defence...
There is no judge that stops the fight on the streets - and you get no trophies when you win - except a destroyed human being with a cracked skull.
Instead of growing the confidence trough waving arms in a competition - I think its better to train methodical to a high standard - then gradually increase tempo - and variations as you master each situation. These guys had very little wing coming out - why bother competing at such a level?
Tequn9q 6 months ago
@Tequn9q That's exactly what I'd expect of someone who can't or won't fight. So you either get into street fights or you compete. Competing makes more sense. You never know your capabilities until you've been hit really hard and have to continue.
sifupr 6 months ago
I cant wait for my si fu to beat the hell out of me.
I just love this Martial art.
lolBAkeLOL 6 months ago
twc fight for point
0311huy 7 months ago
Very interesting comments... Youtube is just saturated with armchair commandos, and the like.
Great videos regardless. Can't wait to train with you again, Sifu.
Kos45 8 months ago
@Kos45 Thanks. I take the negative responses as a result of people not having fought competitively. It used to bother me now I just laugh and tell them to compete, then upload a video so that we can learn how fighting should be done. I'm willing to learn something different.
sifupr 8 months ago
@sifupr sifu , you were a student of ducan leung am ii correct? ,sifu duncan leungs wing chun is the best for application in sparring , and from the videos of apllied wing chun , i see a whole array of diffrent wing chun techniques being used effectively , sigung leung 's is so effective that his students fight profrsssional thay muay thay price fighters . Now my question is , altough your students also fight with succes , why do i see only chainpunching ,front kick , and shin block ?
vinni614 3 weeks ago
@vinni614 Yes, I was a student of Duncan's. I first learned to fight with Duncan's WC but I prefer William Cheung's Wing Chun.
sifupr 3 weeks ago
leung ting wing tsun is a poor excuse of mma type fighting. it might win in these type of competitions where everyone is poorly trained but it will not work against people who are properly trained.
by the way, what happend to your famous bong lap technique at 1:30? it seemed to have worked great (sarcasm)
the only reason he dropped the guy, with a hook, is because he "gambled" and won the lottery...any real wing chun guy would have shot straight in if you took your hands off your center
YoungCrs 8 months ago
@YoungCrs I've had personal issues with other Sifus so I understand you. Leung Ting and my Sifu had issues a while back. This crap has to stop. I know that youtube is a public forum and my censoring people's posts goes against my grain, but there are young people who view this channel and they shouldn't be subjected to foul language or other childish posts. So please don't trash Leung Ting or any WC SifuT here.
sifupr 8 months ago
@sifupr well sir, with all due respect, your template response does not directly prove your skill what so ever. the only thing it shows is that you like to brag. okay, #1. you trained with 6 different "masters" in which you have had "personal issues with" ha ha ha ha ha ha i'm going to leave it at that. #2 you learned cantonese, which i'm sure that made you a better fighter (sarcasm) #3 you fought full contact and you train WC fighters...this is where it gets interesting...
YoungCrs 8 months ago
@sifupr mainly because a student's skill is a reflection of the teacher's experience and skill. judging by the way your students fight, at best, its ehhhhh. put him in an mma gym and he would have sharper hooks, throws, and ground game. don't get me wrong, a win is a win, no doubt. but you have to ask yourself, is that really wing chun? is that a reflection of drill training? chi sao training? or is it just an all out brawl, where one does what ever it takes to win?
YoungCrs 8 months ago
@sifupr of course winning in a fight is a good thing but not at the cost of efficiency, directness, and simplicity. having CONTROL is a sign of mastery of not only one's self but one's martial art. if thats not the purpose of training wing chun then why train it at all? why not train mma instead if you are going to ignore what wing chun has to bring to the table? I admit i might not have as many years of training as you do, but I do have enough training to be able to see the flaws
YoungCrs 8 months ago
@YoungCrs Any fighter makes mistakes, even pros. The way to correct your mistakes is to test what you do outside of the class room. That's what they are doing.
sifupr 8 months ago
@sifupr cool
YoungCrs 8 months ago
@sifupr in not only myself but also in others. I have not only seen but also felt my sifu in action to be able to decipher true wing chun...which in the most basic form: is attacking your opponenet, if your opponenet puts something in your path you simply move it out the way in order for your next attack to go through and in wing chun's case the most efficient attack is the straight punch
YoungCrs 8 months ago
@YoungCrs There is WC with no forms. So what is the true WC?
sifupr 8 months ago
@sifupr like i said, wing chun in the most basic explanation is attacking. if your opponents hands aren't up, no problem, punches go straight through. but if his hands are up or blocking the path of your punches, you simply move them out the way for your punches to go through. of course there are the small details that make this style of in-fighting work like: facing, two hands on top, making your opponent wrong, taking position, etc.
YoungCrs 8 months ago
@sifupr if you read ALL of my comment you would have read "the only hook i am aware of is in the biu jee form, and the biu jee form is usually used for emergency situations where rules/principles must be broken in order to survive" if you are AWARE of any other hooks in the previous forms please point them out...HISTORY has nothing to do with PRACTIACAL application in today's MODERN style of fighting. and to add on to that, the most important thing my sifu has taught me is to train what works
YoungCrs 8 months ago
@sifupr and abandon what doesn't therefore enabling adabtibilty to adversity.
i don't mean to trash any other sifu but i call it like i see it. i've seen leung ting's videos, i've seen his many students, i've even talked to his sihings, many, in fact all of his sihings that i've talked to, have no respect for that lieing money hungry business man, keyword here, business man, not fighter. But at the end of the day i'm going to do what do and you are going to do what you do, but the only thing
YoungCrs 8 months ago
@YoungCrs I respect your opinion but I would like to "ask" you to refrain from trashing ANY WC/VT/WT person on this channel.
sifupr 8 months ago
@sifupr "ask"? haha, not sure what that is suppose to mean, but ok...i didn't directly say anything about a specific sifu, i was merely pointing out their style of fighting is not what i would call wing chun because it does not follow any of the soul principles of wing chun, therefore not wing chun. if it sounded like i was talking trash about another sifu, that was not my intention and i apologize.
YoungCrs 8 months ago
@YoungCrs Our WC is different from what you do.
sifupr 8 months ago
@sifupr haha you don't have to tell me
YoungCrs 8 months ago
@YoungCrs Wow, we agree on something. lol What do you think of a WC system with no forms at all? Is it legitimate?
sifupr 8 months ago
@sifupr it depends, what do you define as form? no snt/ck/bg? no structure? no technique? or are you just trying to sound all mystical? haha
YoungCrs 8 months ago 2
@YoungCrs Ok, I've probably done WC the same or similar to what you do during my 41 years in WC. You reply to me shows me that you don't know all you think you do. Yip Man's Sifu's Sifu. Leung Jan. Created a version on Wing Chun that doesn't have SNY.CK, or Bil Jee. It's called Gu Lo Wing Chun. So my question to you is since the famous Leung Jan taught it would you consider it legitimate? My point is that just because you aren't familiar with a version of WC doesn't make it wrong.
sifupr 8 months ago
@sifupr i understand that leung jan had the wing chun of his time and we have the wing chun of our time. over the generations people (mainly sifus) have tweaked the system, they have learned from their sifus, based on their experience. Each sifu has a different interpretation of the concepts of wing chun therefore each lineage will look different. At the end of the day, if we aren't continuing to evolve then the system will become lost. that is all i am saying.
YoungCrs 8 months ago
@sifupr i'm trying to say through previous comments and this comment is that: you should not live in a fantasy world thinking what worked a hundred years ago will work in today's modern world. wing chun, like any fighting style, is always evolving. if you choose to fall victim to natural selection, then that is entirely your choice. good day.
YoungCrs 8 months ago
@YoungCrs I agree.
sifupr 8 months ago
this is good Wing Chun I see here and I trained for a many years Leung Ting WingTsun. Don't know what some guys comment about. There are hooks, round techniques many stances, offline footwork etc in Yip Man Wing Chun, also.
jomushin7 10 months ago
@jomushin7 the only hook i am aware of is in the biu jee form, and the biu jee form is usually used for emergency situations where rules/principles must be broken in order to survive...the reason you don't use hooks in normal situations is because it takes longer to reach the opponent than a straight line would. with wing chun being a close distance style strikes like the straight punch is one of the main strikes for a reason....but hey, to each his own
YoungCrs 8 months ago
@YoungCrs I see comments from people like you so often that I've made a template response. It's too long for youtube so here's the shorthand without dissing anyone. Me: doing Wing Chun since 1970 with four direct students of Yip Man and in two non Yip Man WC styles. Learned to speak Cantonese in order get WC terms. Fought in full contact events with WC and still training WC fighters. You?
sifupr 8 months ago
@YoungCrs The key words in your original posts were "(that) I am aware of". Yet you made an uneducated statement about what you "think" WC is. I say uneducated because you wrote from a position of the limited understanding you have of Wing Chun. I've been doing WC for 41 years and I'm still learning historical things about WC that many don't know. Young man, don't just believe what you Sifu says. I don't. I'm intelligent enough to research for myself.
sifupr 8 months ago
not even concentrate on the tech is just person trying to punch each other,where is the trapping body munipulating.that not smart .
gato667a 10 months ago
@gato667a Please look here: WC techniques in lei tai
sifupr 10 months ago
i think it's don't wing chun
TheMaXistayla 1 year ago
@TheMaXistayla Thanks for your comment. Please type this in: WC techniques in lei tai
Our WC is obviuosly different from yours.
sifupr 1 year ago
i like his wing chun and his use of the Bong Sau. Screw the haters. This guy is good
randyds5 1 year ago
I think looking at this you can see the guy is very very good at fighting . personally I would trust my shapes more this isnt easy to do and in line with a previous comment is why wing chun people sometimes are portrayed wrongly. WC wasnt designed to be brute force use your opponents energies and understand body structures and positions to give you the open line of attack, Personally too many fighters forget this beginners concept and use brute force to compensate for poor technique.
Cal1skater 1 year ago
@Cal1skater Without knowing all the many different WC lineages including non-Yip Man lineages you can't speak for all WC. I'm sure you're aware of a WC system with no forms. You can't say it's not WC because Gu Lo WC was developed by Yip Man's Si-Gung.
sifupr 1 year ago
@sifupr Here I am again. Watching these videos I am really not impressed of the fighting. Maybe you know how we roll in Holland and our Muay Thai and MMA. This would be punished directly cuz its more uncontrolled fighting than really knowing how to fight. So my question is did the guy trained for this and what WC technique did he use. Also did he move the outside and did paksao lapsao ect. To me it was a WC stance and then he was boxing but without really knowing how to box. Sorry for my comment
minasz 10 months ago
@minasz This was their very first amateur competition. So I hope you aren't expecting professional performances. Please got to WC techniques in lei tai to see the WC techniques. You have commented on many of the videos I've posted. Since youtube won't allow urls to be posted here. There is a Yahoo group where members are required to upload a clip of themselves doing something. I'm sure you have not problem joining and posting clips that we can all learn from.
sifupr 10 months ago
@sifupr My question is not about if it their first or 10th fight. Cuz I see they didnt compete a lot. But my question is why dont I see wing chun techniques. Or did i miss them. About me. Ok Ill upload one of my fights here on youtube. And yes there are many great fighters, but in another video comment you were discussing and sharing that the person or we should watch THIS video clip to see how WC works in a fullcontact fight. Thats why I m asking. I alwayz want to learn.
minasz 10 months ago
@minasz Our WC is different from most people are used to seeing.
sifupr 8 months ago
@sifupr i guess, without having to type those long paragraphs, is what i was trying to point out.
YoungCrs 8 months ago
Saying "what they are doing is not wing chun" is like saying "what lyoto machida does is not karate." Wing Chun in any lineage will emphasize the application of concepts over specific techniques in any situation. For those of you upset that this doesn't resemble the wing chun you see in Prodigal Son or in the Ip Man movies, know that it often will not under pressure. Besides, these guys have the balls to prove themselves and their art in competition. All technicalities aside, that's what counts.
TheHibernator 1 year ago 2
thanks sifupr i will be waiting for your reply...thanks again !
greetings from greece wong shun leung wt ! ! !
sazami2 1 year ago
name of the songs???
sazami2 1 year ago
@sazami2 I'll ask the lady that did the video. I'd like to know myself. :-)
sifupr 1 year ago
@sazami2 the name of the fourth song is "100 techniques" by shynobi. It's an instrumental of a fairly unknown song, and as far as i know the artist can only be found on youtube. the rest of the songs i have no idea :P
bobafettfan9080 1 year ago
@bobafettfan9080 Thanks, one of our students put the vid together and I never knew the name of the song. :-)
sifupr 1 year ago
0:28 and onward.. my favorite piece the attack to the sweep
walking1way 1 year ago
Bong Sao Wu sao (together) for me, seems the most practical for anything being thrown at you. It really doesn't matter what's thrown at you, you can use this from any angle.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
Getting closer! Good work! I think there will be a tipping point when someone with enough athleticism and guts shows that WC works. Once people SEE that it can work it will open a flood gate. Fighting is all about commitment and courage and it's hard to have that when WC guys are getting whipped all over you tube. Videos like this will help burst that mental barrier.
BongSao1979 1 year ago
They are using the central line. Our WC isn't like the "popular" WC.
sifupr 2 years ago
oh rite its prob just the camra angle thats making me think that there not
bedboundmonkey 2 years ago
you ARE right. Central line is different from centerline.
sifupr 2 years ago
didn't know that, what's the difference between the two?
bedboundmonkey 2 years ago
This is not Wing Tsun or Wing Chun is like street fight without technique, i'm agree with the guy above commenting that a medium boxer coul beat any of this participant fighters.
krisnasan 2 years ago
It is WC. Just not the WC you do. BTW do you compete to test your skills? If not your comments are of no value. If you do compete please contribute something here so that we can all get better.
sifupr 2 years ago
This is not Wing Chun
Chabinna 2 years ago
Yes it was, it's the only video I've seen where I actually see wing chun, or even kung fu for that matter. Notice the entrance technique, the sweeps is a wc tech., front kick, chain pucnes, although not all were chain; you can see a bong sao / wu sao defense. I have to say it's hard to keep to technique with adrenaline running through you.
WingThaiJ 2 years ago
I noticed some elbow techniques. Also the punches are direct.
To all the people saying it looks too much like western boxing - look more closely.
This is full contact Wing Chun.
DippShits 2 years ago 2
wing chun gard is bad,you can see in this video ,so wing chun need box gard;)
myhosh21 2 years ago
I don't know what you do but that is the TWC guard.
sifupr 2 years ago
A medium-level boxer would have ripped him apart.
albatrossdumale 2 years ago
This was their first fight. Do you have any clips of you fighting?
sifupr 2 years ago
what does it matter whether they fight or not?
1Jedthered 2 years ago
Good point. You can't do perfectly choreographed techniques against someone bent on wrecking you. The only way to test is a technique will really work is to test it against a resisting opponent who is really trying to hurt you. Our guys were testing the bong sau round punch attack and our raised leg entry. Which they did.
sifupr 2 years ago
nice
truestyleoutlaw 2 years ago
watch our sparring, if u feel like leaving a comment do so!
jesusxtoo 2 years ago
What you see on video doesn't quite show you what some1 can do. I worked out w/Tim Weber in past, if he were fighting a boxer, he'd strike boxers arms into their own face because they hold arms to close to their face,he'd also bust up his arms via strikes.The front kick can be used similar to Teep in Muay Thai to keep a boxer away than U can sweep the leg.Boxers R too limited w/what they have in their arsenal. But Adrenaline can get the best of anyone & tech. can go out the window at times.
WingThaiJ 2 years ago
Great video....informative comments. Thanks for posting!
mcul2112 2 years ago
Are knees illegal in this competition? Is this like Sanda fighting?
ookamiwarrior 2 years ago
Knees are legal in this event.
sifupr 2 years ago
This is cool! keep up guys!
wingchunbingfa 3 years ago
Chyeaah BRO!! nice job kakeater
whitezy9 3 years ago
I see a lot of hooks and cross's. Not that that's a bad thing, but I don't see Wind Chun.
mdigitalman 3 years ago
Wing Chun has round punches and uppercuts. They are in many lineages forms. I hope you see the bong round punch entries. The simultaneous blocks, etc. It is impossible to like like choreographed fighting when someone is trying to knock you head off.
sifupr 3 years ago
Ok then. If Wind Chun has round punches like hooks, then there you go, there hooks. I never saw hook punches in the Wing Chun in as much as I know about Wing Chun. But, I am not Wing Chun expert either. Either way, the guys in this vid look good and I would want to fight them.
mdigitalman 3 years ago
I'm no expert, but I keep hearing from people that there really weren't any non-straight punches in WC until pretty recently. Although it's good to see that the ridiculousness of the simultaneous blocking delusion is starting to become apparent! Keep it up, you are certainly the cream of the crop of The Chun.
Kenyawn 3 years ago
In some Wing Chun lineages there is a hook punch and an uppercut punch in the forms and that wasn't a recent development.
sifupr 3 years ago
Which lineages specifically? And where are you interpreting them in the forms?
MstislavSienkievich 2 years ago
The first and second place winners are from Sifu William Cheung's lineage. The other fighters are from different CMA systems world wide.
sifupr 2 years ago
Look for Yip Man, Yiu Kay Wing Chun, Wong Shun Leung vids and you'll see uppercuts and round punches in Chum Kiu and Biu Jee forms.
sifupr 2 years ago
Correction, it is probably Wind-Chun, just not exactly Wing Chun.
Just playing, these guys have spunk; and that's a lot more that can be said for most.
narayanr 2 years ago
holy shit.
nice fucking Wing Chun...
Technocian 3 years ago
You dont see many people using kung fu patterns in these comps good to actually see people using Kung fu movements I seen bong sau alot of wing chun in these clips.
georgeee1 3 years ago
Badass Tim
jkrye18 4 years ago
Great job SiFu, you trained the boys good.
satori111 4 years ago
Shifu*
Raildog111 4 years ago
Wing Chun is a Southern system from Cantonese speakers so Sifu is correct.
Shifu is Mandarin.
sifupr 3 years ago
oh, thx for clarification
Raildog111 3 years ago