I hate the big arm movements of the snare line. Here is a good rule of thumb: if a highschool band can do it, then you shouldn't. Corps percussion should be playing from beyond playing.
i disagree. high school lines can do buzz rolls. so does that mean corp lines cant do them? corp is about entertaining the crowd, not ramming as many notes as possible.
I marched a top three competitive corps snare line. We were all there to play at a level that was unattainable in high school or college lines. Why would I have paid $1,500 to be in a corp if I could get the same experience for free.
Younger people always want the standards to be lowered so that you can participate. I suggest practicing twenty hours a week for many years so that the caption head doesn't have to include mundane odditities to distract the audience from your mediocre playing.
i never said that. all i mean is that everything doesnt have to be crazy hard. it would suck if corps got really easy. music is not playing as man notes as possible. it sounds good, but you need to change it up.
So... japanese taiko drumming should be looked down upon? It's written as such because the show demanded it. Taiko drumming is not so much as ramming in a ton of notes as it is general effects and presence. This is just one part of the show..
If you don't understand why the big arm movements are there, then you should take a gander at some taiko drumming videos.
So... japanese taiko drumming should be looked down upon? It's written as such because the show demanded it. Taiko drumming is not so much as ramming in a ton of notes as it is general effects and presence. This is just one part of the show..
If you don't understand why the big arm movements are there, then you should take a gander at some taiko drumming videos.
Hey man, if your calling jim casella an amatuer than you are dumb im not sure how many times he took SCV to the top. it was at least twice though. so Dont say crap unless you know what you're talking about
Yes, but they end on the left side. If they ended on the right, it'd be a more powerful and suitable ending to such an intense, high-energy break. Like I said, it's no big deal, but it might add a little more "umph" to the ending.
...he means that the right hand has more space for hitting the drum...look at the end of the vid...notice the players right hand...doesnt that look awkward? prolly not getting the same amount of sound and power that it would normally get if the player was on the other side...just a thought
I don't think it was the best choice, musically, to lose the idiomatic style at 0:20 and go straight to typical, average battery feature. Especially that triplet roll -- it is so out of place. Kuhn always wrote for the bigger musical picture. That's why he was great. I miss the old staff.
Also, traditionally, taiko drummers stand on the right side of the drum, not the left side, to get maximal range of the right hand. Not a big deal, but I'd expect Casella to do a little more research on that.
Actually, scratch what I said about the shime. If you're talking about the metallic sound, it's probably a sound plate. It's reminiscent of an instrument that we called a "cannon" at my old dojo, which is basically a big metal cylinder, played on its side.
So, Iguana, you have revealed the existence of our team of double agents again, eh? Ha!
But no matter -- our plans are beyond your puny ability to thwart them. By the time you escape your mother's basement, we will have turned your precious "Cavaliers" into...
yawn...the blue devils do the blue devils better than this. lol....cavies has truly lost all originality. nicely performed though, then again, its not that challenging.
uh, yeah, right....after winning championships and percussion more than any other corps since 1972, we will just take your little 25 yrs old naive opinion. strange how their entire corps relies on their musical nuances, expression, colors and timbres that always win them the MUSIC caption. If you have a personal disregard for BD, then say so, but dont make ridiculous comments that seasoned, experienced EXPERTS refute.
Arguing with such confused logic would be a waste of time, so for the sake of both of us, I'm going to let you have the last word on this one. Yes, the Blue Devils are superior. They only play loudly when the music dictates such an occasion. You are supreme master of DCI and the internet. Congratulations.
And by the way, I'm 15, not 25. Age means nothing, supreme master.
Age means more than you think...obviously experience and wisdom go hand and hand, do they not?
Regardless. Dev's get a bad rap, mostly due to David Glydes horrid writing (I have never liked his writing for the battery)...but they absolutely DO play with musical nuance, expression and sensitivity. THEY ALL DO or rest assured, it hurts the overall music caption and score.
They're actually far less tilted than they were last year. Take a look at some close-up pictures. Probably this way so they can more easily do matched grip.
I hate the big arm movements of the snare line. Here is a good rule of thumb: if a highschool band can do it, then you shouldn't. Corps percussion should be playing from beyond playing.
mathproof 3 years ago
i disagree. high school lines can do buzz rolls. so does that mean corp lines cant do them? corp is about entertaining the crowd, not ramming as many notes as possible.
paradiddle1389 3 years ago 5
I marched a top three competitive corps snare line. We were all there to play at a level that was unattainable in high school or college lines. Why would I have paid $1,500 to be in a corp if I could get the same experience for free.
Younger people always want the standards to be lowered so that you can participate. I suggest practicing twenty hours a week for many years so that the caption head doesn't have to include mundane odditities to distract the audience from your mediocre playing.
mathproof 3 years ago
i never said that. all i mean is that everything doesnt have to be crazy hard. it would suck if corps got really easy. music is not playing as man notes as possible. it sounds good, but you need to change it up.
paradiddle1389 3 years ago
Well, I agree with this statement. I would encourage you to view the Bluecoats 2008 drum solo: amazing.
mathproof 3 years ago
i have. its crazy. that bass part is sick. i play bass and i know the time and effort that goes into making that sound good.
paradiddle1389 3 years ago
I marched a top three line from 1987-1989; so, there is nothing unique about your experience.
mathproof 3 years ago
i never said it was unique. i just said it takes alot of effort to make a bass part sound good.
paradiddle1389 3 years ago
We are in complete agreement. My favorite bass line is SVC 1987.
mathproof 3 years ago
So... japanese taiko drumming should be looked down upon? It's written as such because the show demanded it. Taiko drumming is not so much as ramming in a ton of notes as it is general effects and presence. This is just one part of the show..
If you don't understand why the big arm movements are there, then you should take a gander at some taiko drumming videos.
TienFoo 2 years ago
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So... japanese taiko drumming should be looked down upon? It's written as such because the show demanded it. Taiko drumming is not so much as ramming in a ton of notes as it is general effects and presence. This is just one part of the show..
If you don't understand why the big arm movements are there, then you should take a gander at some taiko drumming videos.
TienFoo 2 years ago
good sound quality
TheChand2010 3 years ago
illinos right? i was there
rdavidr 3 years ago
I bet the staff has accomplished more than you ever will in you life. They and these percussionist are very good at what they do, unlike you. Jerk
philipsmagnavox09 3 years ago 2
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wow...nothing but rehashing other people's creative ideas...no wonder Cavaliers will never win percussion with this amateur staff.
JessOnTheRun 3 years ago
Hey man, if your calling jim casella an amatuer than you are dumb im not sure how many times he took SCV to the top. it was at least twice though. so Dont say crap unless you know what you're talking about
CMHSQuadz09 3 years ago
jessontherun just goes around and talks shit about a bunch of different drum corps. needless to say hes a douche
mbprince21 3 years ago
so sexy!!!
CrazySnareJerrick93 3 years ago
taiko drums?
woohoo
arneil5 3 years ago
hey DrumlineArchives, watch the video, they are on the right
FromSeguin 3 years ago
Yes, but they end on the left side. If they ended on the right, it'd be a more powerful and suitable ending to such an intense, high-energy break. Like I said, it's no big deal, but it might add a little more "umph" to the ending.
DrumlineArchives 3 years ago
archives, they end on the right of the drum. its your left they end on, but since the drum faces the opposite way, ur left becomes the drum's right
loto127 3 years ago
...he means that the right hand has more space for hitting the drum...look at the end of the vid...notice the players right hand...doesnt that look awkward? prolly not getting the same amount of sound and power that it would normally get if the player was on the other side...just a thought
pregimentx129 3 years ago
Exactly. I'm talking house right/left. Everyone else is talking stage right.left.
DrumlineArchives 3 years ago
I don't think it was the best choice, musically, to lose the idiomatic style at 0:20 and go straight to typical, average battery feature. Especially that triplet roll -- it is so out of place. Kuhn always wrote for the bigger musical picture. That's why he was great. I miss the old staff.
Presonance 3 years ago
agree
bassqueslu 3 years ago
yeah alot of schools and corps use brake drums
FromSeguin 3 years ago
this is at ISU right?
pinkless101 3 years ago
Also, traditionally, taiko drummers stand on the right side of the drum, not the left side, to get maximal range of the right hand. Not a big deal, but I'd expect Casella to do a little more research on that.
DrumlineArchives 3 years ago
whats the name of the instruument playing straight 16th notes in the begining until :20
tmakjoe123 3 years ago
Shime daiko. It's similar to the drums that the Blue Devils start out on, but I think this one uses rope tension. Devs drums use metal tension.
DrumlineArchives 3 years ago
Actually, scratch what I said about the shime. If you're talking about the metallic sound, it's probably a sound plate. It's reminiscent of an instrument that we called a "cannon" at my old dojo, which is basically a big metal cylinder, played on its side.
DrumlineArchives 3 years ago
i think the metal sound is a hoeblade...as my friend called it. he's the fat guy on marimba in the Cavies pit.
JBtenors08 3 years ago
it sounds like a brake drum to me, but im not sure. i don't know if other schools use them, but mine does.
ummmbeastly 3 years ago
this is nice!
Jaydzil 3 years ago
Taiko druming is amazing two world champions came to my high school and performed as well as tought us how to play
lordchaos220 3 years ago
I believe Scott Johnson writes for the battery and has since 1994.
multibuddhaneo 3 years ago
...for blue devils, not cavies
thaiguy20fromla 3 years ago
Your retarted and don't know what your talking about. Don' talk again.
ldkman 3 years ago
No. Scott Johnson writes for the money.
He shops for the batteries.
ikshields 3 years ago
That was really cool! Reminds of "fight club" from Frameworks 2002.
vorjohann68 3 years ago
ok that was freaking sweet!!!
cavalierfan2008 3 years ago
Kamps, those drums are more crooked than the politicians in Washington. They never switched back to flat drums.
madcowdrummer 3 years ago
They're less crooked than last year at least.
c2dinc 3 years ago
The drums, or the politicians?
ikshields 3 years ago
Hahahaha...drums. Definitely not politicians! They never get less crooked.
c2dinc 3 years ago
The cavaliers have been infiltrated by double agents. The Kuhn-Campbell years were the best!
multibuddhaneo 3 years ago
So, Iguana, you have revealed the existence of our team of double agents again, eh? Ha!
But no matter -- our plans are beyond your puny ability to thwart them. By the time you escape your mother's basement, we will have turned your precious "Cavaliers" into...
TRRR-OOPERS!!
BOOOOOO-ha-ha-HAAA!
ikshields 3 years ago
yawn...the blue devils do the blue devils better than this. lol....cavies has truly lost all originality. nicely performed though, then again, its not that challenging.
JessOnTheRun 3 years ago
Blue Devils are extremely overrated. They have one dynamic: fucking LOUD. This allows for little to no musical expression.
papermariocut7 3 years ago
uh, yeah, right....after winning championships and percussion more than any other corps since 1972, we will just take your little 25 yrs old naive opinion. strange how their entire corps relies on their musical nuances, expression, colors and timbres that always win them the MUSIC caption. If you have a personal disregard for BD, then say so, but dont make ridiculous comments that seasoned, experienced EXPERTS refute.
JessOnTheRun 3 years ago
Arguing with such confused logic would be a waste of time, so for the sake of both of us, I'm going to let you have the last word on this one. Yes, the Blue Devils are superior. They only play loudly when the music dictates such an occasion. You are supreme master of DCI and the internet. Congratulations.
And by the way, I'm 15, not 25. Age means nothing, supreme master.
papermariocut7 3 years ago 4
Age means more than you think...obviously experience and wisdom go hand and hand, do they not?
Regardless. Dev's get a bad rap, mostly due to David Glydes horrid writing (I have never liked his writing for the battery)...but they absolutely DO play with musical nuance, expression and sensitivity. THEY ALL DO or rest assured, it hurts the overall music caption and score.
JessOnTheRun 3 years ago
lmao
vtownhood 3 years ago
This is a very good point, and addresses one of the essentials of making music effectively.
I would only recommend one minor refinement of your thesis:
Try having it not be WRONG next time.
Just a thought. ;)
ikshields 3 years ago
Their snares aren't tilted and it's only for these few seconds of the show, and it's aweomse
kamps31 3 years ago
i was there!
cdawg2010 3 years ago
I really enjoy the concepts that are being portrayed, but playing matched grip on a tilted snare just doesn't make sense. hmmm...
Trotsky91 3 years ago
"matched grip on a tilted snare just doesn't make sense"
Would adjusting the snare to a flat position then "re-tilting" them during a show make more sense?
wsubrent 3 years ago
They're actually far less tilted than they were last year. Take a look at some close-up pictures. Probably this way so they can more easily do matched grip.
c2dinc 3 years ago
I would just tilt my head so the drum looks straight, then fall down.
Works for me...
ikshields 3 years ago
ya!! Go Cavies!
drumin4gsus09 3 years ago