Have you ever considered Word of God could mean "word about God"? What leads you to believe God wrote any of this? Men wrote all of it. Besides, these are legends and allegories. Do you keep slaves? Stone disobedient children? Force women to keep their hair long? Eat shrimp? Funny how you pick and choose, but ignore perspective. Are men threatened by women, that they feel they have to control them? How can you take the bible literally without turning off a large portion of your brain??
After looking at the Real Life Ministries website, I couldn't help but notice the distinct absences of any women in any leadership capacity in this organization.
Why is that?
And what are Putman's theological education and credentials?
Maybe because they are following Gods word? 11A woman must learn in silence, in keeping with her position. 12I don't allow a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. Instead, she should be quiet. 13After all, Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14Besides that, Adam was not deceived. It was the woman who was deceived and sinned. 15However, she and all women will be saved through the birth of the child, if they lead respectable lives in faith, love, and holiness.
@tylerjames003 I just looked at your profile; you don't read???? There's a huge problem right there. You may not even know what perspective is, or what it means. How about historical and cultural context? You desperately need to educate yourself, or get used to being laughed at, unless you enjoy derision. Please be aware that there are many alternatives to megachurch, fundamentalist, simplistic ideologies. Get reading, kiddo. Start in a library, and use your time better than pen tapping!
@Trillidotia funny how u dont address the question at all and just start coming at me with insults..tells alot about your character to be honest.. knowing gods word in ur head is really impressive to the world but knowing it in ur heart is something totally different..mayb youll take back ur jabs once u understand the heart part of gods word.. and btw my profile is mad old and i just like putting up pen tapping vids becuz i enjoy doing it thanks for stalkin me quick though haha.. one love my man
@tylerjames003 You asked a question? Where? I'll answer if you ask.
This supposition that the bible is "god's word"; what is that based upon? What makes you believe that your god had anything to do with what these men wrote? Because THEY said so? I've read it, the whole thing (not all at once!) and much of it's pretty disturbing, contradictory and violent. If that was truly this misogynistic god's own words, he's certainly not deserving of worship.
If anyone has not seen these philosophies lived out, they should seek to. I have many friends brought to Christ through this church. I understand that only a glimpse may cause one to criticize, but remember "Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things," Ph 4:8 NIV. Jim is a blessing to many, so it's true he'll be persecuted, 2Tim 3:12.
Unless you guys don't go to this church then you better stop talking because they raise money to:
1. make it better and help out those in need in the community
And 2. They help build houses and churches ALL over the globe! It help alot of people out and I'm proud to be a part of this church. And I'm 14 and I know all of this stuff, so why don't you?
Why don't these folks find something better to do than try to bring down RLM. After all thats what the purpose of all this is. Right? You think you should be able to see financial records? Are you a member? And my guess is that the guy with the audio of jim fixing to have him removed was an angel right? Sounds like in the video we didnt hear the whole story because I'm guessing that he was being rude is why jim was going to have him removed from the office
Church is a team sport as long as you are "in charge"! There are no leaders in church just rulers or Nicolatians. The modern church is man run and Christless that's why I'd never be under a clergyman.
2000 years and no one has every thought of what he's written in his book? A jock who has an IQ of what, pulled things out of scripture that 2000 years of REAL scholars didn't? Or did they? It's been found that "CELL Churches" are a product of Social CULTS, so how does "small groups" differ? History proves nothing is new; alot is recycled lies and unscriptual garbage that has been rejected by more ethical, moral, scriptural generations.
What do you guys think of censoredbeliever and all of those audio recordings and financial junk? Is the church at fault, or is this Chris guy just a nut?
Im a nut for JESUS; a bible thumper, a JESUS "freak". God does not delight in a so called pastor LYING and DECEIVING so MAN can make desciples of THEMSELVES.
Recording and exposing a LIAR, does not make one a nut. BLINDLY following an organization that wont willfully show their finacial records to anyone, just may. Following an org that appears no different from the World, just might too. How does RLM differ from the world? of those asked, not one answer.
Who Is this guy talking too?? Is he reading CUE cards. He dosent even look at the guy interviewing him. If this church is so great why wont they show their finances to anyone? There IS taped Proof that they won't.
What are they hiding?????? The IRS code says they have to. So why won't they??????????????????????????????????
Google .. Real Life Ministries and A Day In Paradise Lost for the first blog in a series of three.
Numerous controversies surround this ministry. Visit the above link with your Bible in hand. Jim Jones followers hung close and drank the koolaid. A Congressional team visited the compound and found bent and broken syrniges - evidence that not all wanted to die.
Jesus spoke of a time when believers would no long indure sound doctrine. Would you like to escape their fate?
nice that Baker Publishing is taking the time to promote your book Jim! Not a far leap to believe that residules might be a motivation on their part. As I stated in my blog, this video is nothing more that a marketing tool. It is far from unbiased!
RLM rox i go to that church and it rox. the recovery really works, the highschool group is awesome and the service is what i look forward to every week!
Small groups work great to CONTROL, just like cell groups. It's great; you get comfee in your group, make great close friends, then if you question anything, the leadership can threaten to have people speak horrible things of you to your new great close friends...Oh, yeah small groups are great. How about that accoutability for the leadership? listen to the videos that I posted; you'll see. Is this book a "do as I say not as I do".RLM seems to have a constant shortage of volenteers? No team?
Have you ever considered Word of God could mean "word about God"? What leads you to believe God wrote any of this? Men wrote all of it. Besides, these are legends and allegories. Do you keep slaves? Stone disobedient children? Force women to keep their hair long? Eat shrimp? Funny how you pick and choose, but ignore perspective. Are men threatened by women, that they feel they have to control them? How can you take the bible literally without turning off a large portion of your brain??
Trillidotia 8 months ago
After looking at the Real Life Ministries website, I couldn't help but notice the distinct absences of any women in any leadership capacity in this organization.
Why is that?
And what are Putman's theological education and credentials?
Trillidotia 8 months ago
@Trillidotia
Maybe because they are following Gods word? 11A woman must learn in silence, in keeping with her position. 12I don't allow a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. Instead, she should be quiet. 13After all, Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14Besides that, Adam was not deceived. It was the woman who was deceived and sinned. 15However, she and all women will be saved through the birth of the child, if they lead respectable lives in faith, love, and holiness.
1 timothy 2
tylerjames003 8 months ago
@tylerjames003 I just looked at your profile; you don't read???? There's a huge problem right there. You may not even know what perspective is, or what it means. How about historical and cultural context? You desperately need to educate yourself, or get used to being laughed at, unless you enjoy derision. Please be aware that there are many alternatives to megachurch, fundamentalist, simplistic ideologies. Get reading, kiddo. Start in a library, and use your time better than pen tapping!
Trillidotia 8 months ago
@Trillidotia funny how u dont address the question at all and just start coming at me with insults..tells alot about your character to be honest.. knowing gods word in ur head is really impressive to the world but knowing it in ur heart is something totally different..mayb youll take back ur jabs once u understand the heart part of gods word.. and btw my profile is mad old and i just like putting up pen tapping vids becuz i enjoy doing it thanks for stalkin me quick though haha.. one love my man
tylerjames003 8 months ago
@tylerjames003 You asked a question? Where? I'll answer if you ask.
This supposition that the bible is "god's word"; what is that based upon? What makes you believe that your god had anything to do with what these men wrote? Because THEY said so? I've read it, the whole thing (not all at once!) and much of it's pretty disturbing, contradictory and violent. If that was truly this misogynistic god's own words, he's certainly not deserving of worship.
Trillidotia 8 months ago
If anyone has not seen these philosophies lived out, they should seek to. I have many friends brought to Christ through this church. I understand that only a glimpse may cause one to criticize, but remember "Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things," Ph 4:8 NIV. Jim is a blessing to many, so it's true he'll be persecuted, 2Tim 3:12.
ALoverOfTruth 1 year ago
Unless you guys don't go to this church then you better stop talking because they raise money to:
1. make it better and help out those in need in the community
And 2. They help build houses and churches ALL over the globe! It help alot of people out and I'm proud to be a part of this church. And I'm 14 and I know all of this stuff, so why don't you?
potatoelady 1 year ago
this church is a go0od church! i go here alot!
runescape543213 1 year ago
Why don't these folks find something better to do than try to bring down RLM. After all thats what the purpose of all this is. Right? You think you should be able to see financial records? Are you a member? And my guess is that the guy with the audio of jim fixing to have him removed was an angel right? Sounds like in the video we didnt hear the whole story because I'm guessing that he was being rude is why jim was going to have him removed from the office
MrKickstartmyheart 2 years ago
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tmcam2 2 years ago
Church is a team sport as long as you are "in charge"! There are no leaders in church just rulers or Nicolatians. The modern church is man run and Christless that's why I'd never be under a clergyman.
Pfsif 2 years ago
EVERYTHING God OFFERS is FREE!
So why are pastors SELLING out? Writing books selling coffee, trinkets ,shirts coffee cups,bible study books in church ?
Simple they are running a business not a house of god.
godlov933 3 years ago
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godlov933 3 years ago
This pastor SAYS if you don't give to the building fund they will have NO room for you in the new CHURCH. What??? How is that Biblical?
godlov933 3 years ago
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When Pastors go BAD they write a book. Church a team sport? Jesus is not a game.
Jesus IS LIFE. Not physical Life or death but SPRRITUAL LIFE OR DEATH. So how is that a sport?
godlov933 3 years ago
2000 years and no one has every thought of what he's written in his book? A jock who has an IQ of what, pulled things out of scripture that 2000 years of REAL scholars didn't? Or did they? It's been found that "CELL Churches" are a product of Social CULTS, so how does "small groups" differ? History proves nothing is new; alot is recycled lies and unscriptual garbage that has been rejected by more ethical, moral, scriptural generations.
censoredbelver 3 years ago
What do you guys think of censoredbeliever and all of those audio recordings and financial junk? Is the church at fault, or is this Chris guy just a nut?
kodiak152 3 years ago
The guy is an absolute nut!
periwinkle1979 3 years ago
Would that make you a LIBELLER?
Im a nut for JESUS; a bible thumper, a JESUS "freak". God does not delight in a so called pastor LYING and DECEIVING so MAN can make desciples of THEMSELVES.
Recording and exposing a LIAR, does not make one a nut. BLINDLY following an organization that wont willfully show their finacial records to anyone, just may. Following an org that appears no different from the World, just might too. How does RLM differ from the world? of those asked, not one answer.
censoredbelver 3 years ago
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kodiak152 2 years ago
That's a comment of someone that follows Jesus or Jimbo?
censoredbelver 3 years ago
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kodiak152 2 years ago
Who Is this guy talking too?? Is he reading CUE cards. He dosent even look at the guy interviewing him. If this church is so great why wont they show their finances to anyone? There IS taped Proof that they won't.
What are they hiding?????? The IRS code says they have to. So why won't they??????????????????????????????????
godlov933 3 years ago
Google .. Real Life Ministries and A Day In Paradise Lost for the first blog in a series of three.
Numerous controversies surround this ministry. Visit the above link with your Bible in hand. Jim Jones followers hung close and drank the koolaid. A Congressional team visited the compound and found bent and broken syrniges - evidence that not all wanted to die.
Jesus spoke of a time when believers would no long indure sound doctrine. Would you like to escape their fate?
mountainviewid 3 years ago
nice that Baker Publishing is taking the time to promote your book Jim! Not a far leap to believe that residules might be a motivation on their part. As I stated in my blog, this video is nothing more that a marketing tool. It is far from unbiased!
mountainviewid 3 years ago
RLM rox i go to that church and it rox. the recovery really works, the highschool group is awesome and the service is what i look forward to every week!
Skate4anarchy 3 years ago
Great to see RLM on YouTube.
Excellent message Jim & Lance.
Bought the book! Right on!
Small-Groups really work.
6-yr "Lifer"
God bless you!
sterrellzzzzzzz 3 years ago
Small groups work great to CONTROL, just like cell groups. It's great; you get comfee in your group, make great close friends, then if you question anything, the leadership can threaten to have people speak horrible things of you to your new great close friends...Oh, yeah small groups are great. How about that accoutability for the leadership? listen to the videos that I posted; you'll see. Is this book a "do as I say not as I do".RLM seems to have a constant shortage of volenteers? No team?
censoredbeliever 3 years ago