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ali would destroy tyson. i dont know how people can say tyson is the best compared to ali. im going to tell yall how it'd go. it'd first be out side of the ring. ali obviously would get to tyson with all his shit talking. then they'd meet in the ring. ali would dance around tyson. none stop dancing i mean so much dancing it confuses tysons small mind. tyson woulld get really dizy so then with ali's accuracy he'd knock him out. or it'd be by decsion cause ali is so much faster than tyson.
@jsharps1000 Honestly, I am a supporter of both legends. Though from your perspective you don't give Tyson much credit at all. They are both tremendously skilled fighters and by the fact of your clearly one sided opinion your judgment is far from accurate because of the simple fact that you don't weigh they're skill sets up evenly.
@reyo88 lol your right i didn't think that comment threw. im sorry i never took an interest in tyson. i've seen some videos of tyson but i aint a tyson type of person. i just think ali's stratgy's would defeat tyson cause the fact he has power and probly cant run as far as ali can. but never know my fault though.
@jsharps1000 You are wrong.Ali had big problem with inside fighters.Just look on fights with Frezier and Norton.Now i will tell you something.Mike had speed and accuracy of Ali,Power of Foreman and Headmovment made by himself.In my opinion mike would destroy Muhamad.More dengerous for Mike Would be Foreman,not becouse he was better than Ali(he wasn't) just becouse in fights when fighters have same skill ,style make a fight.
@leoblaugrana tyson wasnt as good as joe on the inside, mike was more of a midrange fighter, he never smoothered his opponents punches, and he doesnt have the stamina or workrate of frazier. and he doesnt hit anywhere near as hard as foreman, he was more skilled but no where near as powerful. if he cant destroy tillis he isnt destroying ali
@messier991102 I agree that he didn't hit hard as foreman but not like 2x times ,Foreman was just a little stronger than Mike. But he was much better than joe in getting inside .He had better headmovement and footwork than joe(every expert tell you that).I can't tell you more cus i don't know what means words like''midrange"and "smoothered".I wish you can explain it to me.
@leoblaugrana foreman was alot physically stronger than mike, he also hit alot harder. alot of tysons opponents who werent afraid of him said that tysons power if overrated. tyson alos got manhandled in clinches, foreman threw people, thats why physically he is alot stronger. no tyson wasnt as good as joe on the inside at all. tyson preferred range becuause his best asset was combos, he needed range. he never dug his hea into opponents chests and dug to the body non stop like joe.
@leoblaugrana tyson struggled on the inside which is where he needs to be against ali. he struggled with tillis, joe would have killed tillis. his headmovement was better form a technical standpoint but joe actually had a higher slip ratio, he made his opponents miss punches more often. tysons headmovement was better for singular punches, but for a combos thrower like ali joes was better because he maintained aggression. his feet were faster but tyson alot of the times wa staggered wrong and
@leoblaugrana off balanced. joe cut the ring more efficiently, tyson always struggled with boxers, had holmes been 7 years younger tyson would never have hurt him. holmes made mike look ordinary until mike landed that uppercut in round 4. mike was an excellent combo thrower but he needed range to throw them and to beat ali you need to give him no room to move. his headmovement was great, but ali who threw 5 punch combos at lightening speed would give him trouble. also when joe was hit
@leoblaugrana he still came foward. when tyson was hit he would reset. this would hurt him against ali. joe came foward no matter what but tyson stopped and moved back when hit. tyson also doesnt have the stamina of joe or mental fortitude. tyson was more gifted than joe, but most of boxing is mentality an area in which tyson is lacking. he had major confidence issues. how would he respond to alis banter?
@messier991102 I think that mike could talk back with Ali.Mike is very wise but many ppl can't see that becouse of media which made of him fucken criminal ,stupid bustard what wasn't true.We are talking about what could happen if they stand against themselfs in prime.When Cus lived and Kevin trained him he was very confidence of himself.He was talking about that in every interview.It's not true that he go back when he get a hit.He go back only when he get stoned.
The difference between Ali and Tyson is that while Tyson was banging hookers, Ali would visit detention centers for young kids like he did with Mike himself.. thus inspired him to succeed along with thousands worldwide. Pretty much doubt anyone would follow the example Tyson set.
I think Ali was the best of his time and Tyson was the best of his time. Ali never fought anyone with Tyson's Style. Tyson was a Flurry punching powerhouse bully. If you put them in a fight it would be if Ali could adapt to this. If Tyson got on the inside would Ali's defense and counterpunching be able to save him? It's a tough call.
@dennbb Your a hater. Tyson was better than Ali. Ali could rope a dope for 24 rounds, it would not work on Tyson. Tyson's form and angles of his punches would break through any boxer's defense. Tyson had emotional problems throughout his career without D'amato. It's wrong to say Tyson was not a good technical fighter, he could end behind his opponent if they flinched.
anyone who says ali would win against tyson is taking a (mainstream) answer because hes the most famous boxer ever and was the greatest of his time anyone who knows boxing would know boxing is so more advanced these days ali would leave way to many openings for tyson to rock him tyson was also faster and more powerfull than ali. tyson wins by KO
@grimbomufc09 Still think Ali would win, he's to quick, Tyson needs to come in low, Ali would just pick him off with his iron jabs. Ali can throw a punch in 400 hundreths of a second, no one is that fast, also goerge foreman is much, much, much stronger than tyson, and Ali withstood a savage beating for at least 12 rounds AND won by K.O, I think that at some point tyson would do something illegal out of sheer frustration from Ali's superior skill, and loose, Ali wins..
@jackmcd277 You can't compare Foreman to mike.Foreman was slagger (slow,hard puncher like S.Liston)while mike was swarmer (inside fast power puncher).Mike was hybrid of Joe fraizier and Gorgi Foreman.Outside fighters(like Ali)have big problems with swarmes becouse they are so good in shorting distance.I think that George would be harder opponent to Mike than Ali.
@jackmcd277 tyson is probably faster than ali have you ever seen a heavyweight apart from ali throw combos as fast, accurate and powerful than tyson also look at tysons head movement its unbelievable. no one knows how it would end for sure but tyson isnt an easy fight for ali at all ali leaves himself open too much tyson hits ali with a deadly blow its game over for ali.
@westfielder he was just as fast have you seen his combos mixed with power and his head movement you think ali could pull of them combos tyson does with the same power cmon just because he does the ali shuffle doesnt mean hes super fast
@whisperkid1 tysons combinations were just as fast as ali watch videos you will clearly see and tyson was more powerfull but your right ali had more heart
@whisperkid1 tyson was just as fast as ali but is capable of putting a hell of a lot more power in the punches also look at tyson in his prime his head movement and speed was unreal for a heavyweight. ali was no where near a million times faster than tyson
@grimbomufc09 he was a million times faster, ever seen ali v cleveland williams ? No one would of beat that ali. He was unbeatable. taht performance against williams has been said as being the best ever performance. from a boxer, as he was quick powerful and untouchable. tyson could never beat that.
@whisperkid1 a million times faster you must be one of them ali ass lickers you have never watched tyson training or watched any of his fights in his prime he was unbelievably fast and if you think ali could hit harder than tyson then you are seriously deluded when tyson fought spinks boxing experts said he was in the best shape and could of beat anyone on that day
@grimbomufc09 I didnt say he was more powerful then tyson, ali would of beating the tyson who beat spinks, Ali v williams will have proved that- Ali was quick, And had fast hand speed and has a one of the greatest chins - which tyson did not seem to have. Ali would win by k.o As tyson would be frustrated at not being able to land or hurt ali. We never saw ali in his prime but we do know it would of been out of this world- Ali is greatest of all time for a reason.
And anyone that has some knowledge of boxing knows Tyson was in his prime when Buster Douglas KO'd him. And when he had those boring decisions against Tucker Smith that made his PR machine panic. Tyson didn't have 27 1st rd KO's it was more like 20 and against nobodies. Lamar Clark had 28 1st rd KO's and he couldn't beat Ali either. Tyson had awesome power and speed, He was NOT a good technical fighter. D'amato Turned him into a bigger Floyd Patterson. Liston hit harder than Tyson.
@dennbb He wasn't prepare good to this fight.Sparing partener ko him before that fight.His prime time (when Kevin Rooney train him).Technic=speed+accuracy+headmovement +chill in ring.He had it all.Larry holmes,berbrick,Spinks weren't nobodies.Ali had big problems with fighters whoes had style like tyson.I mean Joe and Norton.Mike was better version of Joe,That's why i think he could win with Muhamed by KO.I think that Ali couldn'stand Mike's bombs.
@StrivingFeesabiliah WTF are you talking about, have you seen tyson fight he does the whole, the father the son and the holy spirit thing before a fight.
@lufc339 LOL Spinks was an over the Hill lightheavy that was terrified of Tyson. How could anyone in their right mind think that a guy that was knocked out by Douglas, Struggled with the likes Smith, Tucker, and Tillis, and ducked Holyfield and Lewis while they wee in their primes. Another chump Tyson ass kisser that would suck his dick if he had a chance, heard from. PFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTT
Before Tyson parted with Kevin Rooney he was physically the greatest fighter of all time, his punches/combinations and head movement were perfect and he was the best fighter to ever use the cus d'amato peek-a-boo style. when he had the right people in his corner and the will too win, Evander holyfield and lennox lewis would have been knocked out by Tyson. by the time he went in the ring with both of them his Style and tactics had changed completely with the wrong people training him.
Ali would have frustrated Tyson...Mikes catches 3 punches walking in gets tied up....break...repeat repeat repeat repeat repeat......once Tyson couldn't ko you by round 5 he was just another figther
@shadows987987 tyson had more than power....maybe not after prison but before 88 he was the best fighter too ever use the cus damato peekaboo style, and would have torn Ali apart considering he was faster, stronger, and could use both hands far better than frazier
@shadows987987 Tyson had faster combinations, and with the original team Tyson, he was just as good psychologically as Ali and and even more confident in all his abilities, Ali was only confident in his speed, his famous rope a dope didnt work with Frazier, Tyson would have shut him down.
Tyson does not have the stamina, the heart, the determination, nor the emotions needed to do what Frazier did. Frazier was a true, fearless, warrior. With his team? That automatically makes Ali the better man. Tyson used to cry before his fights. He does not have Ali's confidence. Ali would break him down mentally and reduce him to a brawler. Also he did not have faster combos. It is only that he threw them more frequently than Ali.
People seem to forget that Ali dominated Frazier for the first half of the rounds and Frazier only beat him later because of his stamina, something Tyson does not have. Tyson could not KO James Tillis (because he actually fought back), how would he KO Ali? With Tyson it is always should have, could have and would have. There is a huge chunk in him.
@shadows987987 with Tyson it is always going to be should have, could have and would have, because he didn't do what Ali did and come back after a lay off and beat the top opponents who he faced, but you forget we are talking about who WOULD have won between prime Tyson and prime Ali, and the ball is very much in Tysons court as well as Ali's. Tyson never reached his potential and is physically better by a mile and Ali's stamina would be gone from Tyson precise body shots and head weaving
If there is one thing that Ali can take, it is body shots. I don't rate Tyson's raw power very highly, I rate his accuracy. You are right Tyson didn't do any of that. When he lost he couldn't get back up. Ali could and that is what makes him great: overcoming defeat. Boxing is more a thinking mans sport than a physical one. Tillis did show thathe could face Tyson though and Ali can do everything 10x better. How do you know Tyson never reached his potential?
@shadows987987 I don't know that Tyson never reached his potential, because everything we are saying here is opinion, how do you know that Ali could handle Tyson's body shots? he beat George foreman who had no accuracy swinging wildly, he beat Frazier and was copping out in the last round. Tyson had unbelievable power, look at the way he punches, and in his prime throws combinations of 5 and 6 punches ACCURATELY. Frazier couldn't use his right hand throwing one left hook? Tyson destroys Ali.
I actually rate Frazier's left hook much higher than Tyson's. Because he had perfect form. Ali never dodged Foreman's shots. He took most of them. I do think Ali reached his potential. He may have got a little better during the 3 year layoff. But I don't think it would have been by much. Tyson had good power, not unbelievable. Even fighters in Tyson's time punched harder than him. I don't see Tyson hitting Ali with 5-6 punch combos.
@shadows987987 Frazier didn't have perfect form, Tyson did, you cant argue that prime mikes form was perfect as his trainer was so strict, foreman's hits weren't hitting Ali clean, I should know I watched the fight yesterday, to say Tyson power was not unbelievable then your no less than an idiot, he could put forward more power in less time than any other fighter in history, and the whole point of the 5-6 punch combos is you cant avoid all of them, especially not Ali
Frazier had a hook that was picture perfect. It was just 'the moment'. Foreman didn't have to hit people on target to knock them out. Destroying lesser fighters doesn't quite make you an all-time great. Tyson had very poor Stamina, because he had a breathing problem. He did train hard, I agree there. Tyson did not have special power. His opponents have admitted that they have faced harder punchers, just not faster punchers.
@shadows987987 so was Tyson with both hands, the fact that foreman didnt need to hit other opponents on target too knock them out has nothing to do with what I was saying? I never said Tyson was an all time great we are not comparing records here we are comparing the two fighters in there primes?! Tyson had breathing problems when he was younger but his stamina was good, Tyson stopped training hard after he fired Rooney, I didn'tsay Tyson's punch was the hardest but no fighter with the speed/pow
@sonofaballer96 Tyson didn't train correctly and not in the same way Cus a Rooney trained him who new exactly how to train someone at the peek-a-boo style which was what made Tyson sensational, he wasn't the same fighter since the mike spinks fight after the firing of his trainer he got rocked for the first time against frank bruno, Tyson stopped being a smart fighter after 88 and just tried to plow through his opponents without the same tactics, head movements and combinations as he used to.
Why couldn't Ali avoid them? He had more raw speed than Tyson and his reflexes were naturally better. Tyson was an exciting fighter. This does not equal greatness. He had one of the best mentors and trainers in history though.
@shadows987987 Ali took massive hits from frazier and foreman, so he wouldnt avoid tysons punches, ali threw fast punches but they werent hard, he didnt move in the body and the torso like tyson and spring from the legs with bad intentions with every blow, they were more like fast arm punches too rack up the points, yes tyson was an exiting fighter and in 88 would have beaten a prime Ali.
Tyson-more powerful, ferocious, better defense/offense and just as quick in prime
@shadows987987 Tyson said this because he did think, he used to rely on his elusiveness and his speed not just his strength before he fired Kevin Rooney, he said a tough man will get hurt really badly in boxing, which is exactly what he did and after prison relied on mainly his punching power and aggressiveness too win fights, which is why he lost without a game plan against Holyfield and buster Douglas.
Tyson with Kevin Rooney in his corner is mentally as strong as Ali. Physically Ali no chance
I don't count the fights Ali had with Foreman and Frazier as his prime. He had lost most of his speed by then. Tyson could get his body into a punch that much is true. But using elusiveness and speed doesn't make you a smart fighter. A smart fighter is someone who can change their game plan and find a way to get back from losing. I count the use of the brain to be more important than the physical. That is why I think Ali would win.
Sure. I've been arguing back and forth on this video for 3 years now. And in that that I don't think I've changed anyone’s opinion and no one has changed mine.
@shadows987987 neither of our opinions are wrong, we just have different views, I used to be pro Ali with this match up but after 2 years of training mikes style and learning about his life and career I cant help but be biased to Tyson, and this subject will be debated forever as they are complete opposites in fighting style and each others worst nightmares. in their primes I think physically Tyson was the greatest, Ali mentally, Cus told Tyson his personality made him almost unbeatable.
@shadows987987 If Tyson was a smart fighter he would of beat Holyfield the 2nd time, I'm not saying he was dumb though and I've seen almost all his fights.
I don't think Ali would destroy Tyson. I think he would get a UD after a pretty decent fight, the same that I am pretty sure Tyson would not destroy Ali. Tyson could not destroy lesser fighters. Ali has never been knocked out. I can say that Ali was great, but Tyson never reached his so called potential. Ali did and that in itself is a skill.
@shadows987987 Tyson could destroy lesser fighters, because thats exactly what he did, and if tyson ever did get taken too the decision he still dominated every round. Tyson had better stamina than Ali in his prime, he just had the style that needed the stamina of a god, no one trained harder than mike before 88
I'm not saying Tyson couldn't beat Ali, I just see it is unlikely. Every heavy weight has the chance to beat another. And you are right about Foreman, he would have knocked out Tyson in the 2nd/3rd round. Quite a few sluggers would have.
I'm not saying Tyson couldn't beat Ali, I just see it is unlikely. Every heavy weight has the chance to beat another. And you are right about Foreman, he would have knocked out Tyson in the 2nd/3rd round. Quite a few sluggers would have.
@shadows987987 James tillis didnt fight back he ran away from tyson and you forget how young tyson was then and he has always said that fight was a learning curve for him and it was a confidence thing (as i said he never reached his potential, even though he could have wooped any heavyweight in history in the mike spinks fight), plus tyson dominated every round. as styles make fights the only fighter in history i can think of that would have beat prime Mike is george foreman
@leafsyo11 if someone is stupid enough to think ali would beat tyson, it would be in the later rounds....around round? you clearly know nothing about boxing or the 2 fighters on the video
@fuggetabodit anyone that knows squat about boxing would think Ali is better, but anyone who knows squat about Tyson would know that in his prime he would have knocked out Ali. you go by what's on their record, look at Tyson's career, he never hit his peak because of Don king and his skills degraded over the next 15 years of his career, but at the Mike Spinks fight and with Kevin Rooney in his corner Ali wouldn't have stood a chance.
if Frazier could do that much damage too Ali then Tyson would have destroyed him, with Rooney in the Tyson corner he was like a weapon commanding Tyson too rip perfect combinations with the perfect amount of slips and weaves, take away don king and Tyson takes the greatest of all time crown.
@thehitchrules who were Tysons 1st round Kos against ? Plus that is a biased conclusion. George Foreman had more 1st round Kos than Ali as well. Ali KO'd Foreman, and Poor George hit the canvas hard !
@thehitchrules Mike Tyson doesn't have the most first round ko's and Ali has average heavyweight punches, that's still hard. Ali beat George Foreman and he would destroy Tyson and even his best trainers who were like his family said he would beat him.
@thehitchrules So What if he did, George Foreman had 9 first round knock-outs and 15 or 16 second round knock-outs before he fought Ali.. You claim he won that fight?
@thehitchrules tyson gets worse as rounds continue, ali gets better, your statement means if ali survives first round, thats is tyson loses and ali wins :), which is wat would happen anyways
Everybody loved and love Ali for his character (me to).But everyone who have some knolege about boxing he will agree that tyson in his prime would destroy any oponent.Tyson isn't only about strength.He had everyting balance ,speed he was also great technical fighter.
@leoblaugrana actually no cuz we all no tyson wasnt stable so ali would mess with his mind and ali was 1000000000000 faster in his prime in speed and fastest puncher in history man........... ali floated like a butterfly and stinged like a bee thats y he is the greatest
@happy123456ification he wasn't stable out of the ring but when he came on ring he was focus and angry bad man.Ali was just a little bit faster than mike ,not like 1000000x faster ,just a little bit.But he would lose that speed by mike's bodies punches which were also so fuckin strong.Ali had strongest chin ever but i think he couldn't stand mike's hooks.So in my opinion mike was the greatest fighter of all time.Just look at fight with fraizer .He fought same like mike and almost won.
@happy123456ification prime mikes combinations were just as fast as Ali's and were 10 times harder coming straight up from the legs as his torso twisted madly. NO fighter in heavyweight history was able to do that. Ali could barely float round Frazier so he would have had chance against mikes speed.
@leoblaugrana Ali had personality, character and skill - techniques that had not been seen before. Tyson studied Ali and all the previous boxers techniques, so not too far fetched that he is better all new Prodigies will be exclaimed to be the greatest is it the way of progress.
@borys66 In your answer it's my answer.Why mike was the best?.Becouse he was special mix of all back champs.Hooks Louis,strength Foreman ,accuracy and speed Ali.But head movement man..he born with it.
@slugfestdude He wasn't same Mike after being in a jail.He lost his speed in hands and body.But i must agree that Holyfield in their first was a beast.But he stoned mike 2 times by his head in third round.He was shadow of himself in fight with Lewis.He told in interwiev that he fought only for money.
It's samke like saying that holmes and berbrick were beasts in fights with Ali.
Muhammad Ali is a faster attacker and is a more technical fighter, it has very adaptable strategic ability, Mike Tyson is faster to shun and in to lower and strikes with a lot of more violence, but he has never fought many ruonds as winner, Muhammad Ali him because he has developed more resistance in the duration of the matches and in to box,in more let's not forget not us that Muhammad Ali was a provoker while Tyson easily lost the control.Two greats.
@BoxeAndWrestling if you ook at he videos of ali and tyson on youtube it is very clear that tyson wud hav destroyed ali. to strong nd vicious for ali. people tink ali wu hav aggrevated and teased tyson but tyson wud still have battered ali hands dwn. tyson was the best boxerthat ever lived and will ever step into a ring.
@NoLimiToRise Tyson never fought anyone with Ali's mobility and reaction times and Ali had plenty of power ;) Tyson was a very good fighter however he mostly fought either has beens or Don King specials. Ali did it for many years more, against better opposition and in far more social and physically adverse situations. He would beat Tyson and the poems would have been even better :)
@SAFCpr - yeah but foreman didnt have a defense no where near as good as tyson and was no where near as fast as tyson thats mike's advantages on that 1
@SAFCpr yeah but tyson was like 100 times faster than foreman better head movement better accuracy tyson would rip ali to shreds in his prime ali leaves so many openings for his opponents to hit him and with the accuracy and power of tyson he would drop ali on his ass while hes trying to do an ali shuffle
@XSVterror18 and you think tyson would not be able to hit ali because of his jab tyson was an expert at getting inside fighters like ive said many times before ali would get too cocky and if tyson lands a powerfull punch on ali its game over
@grimbomufc09 tyson also hit ribalta with everything he had and he tkod him in 10 rounds. tillis who is a poor mans ali took tyson the distance and only was knocked down once and it was a flash kd. he was never hurt by tyson. mike had great power but never on the level of foreman liston or shavers. tyson is not koing ali
The best boxers Tyson fought was, Bruno, Larry holmes, Holyfield and Lennox. Tyson lost to Holyfield twice and Lennox.
Best boxers Ali fought was, Frazier, Foreman, Patterson, Cooper and Liston. Ali lost to Frazier but also beat him twice. The rest Ali beat with ease apart from Cooper in both fights.
Verdict: Muhammed Ali would wear him down and pick him of round by round to win the fight from a KO in the 8th
I like both they are both legendary fighters. but I've seen mike tyson fighting more than ali and tyson is way younger than ali so I have to say nobody wins they would have to fight for us to see.
People tend to animalise Tyson. He wasn't just some lunatic freak that was stronger/faster than everyone.The way he dodged/weaved/moved in the ring, got in on the inside and anticipated punches was sheer GENIUS. It's only that he made it look easy that people overlook it. Your physical attributes mean nothing in a fight unless you can utilise them, and Tyson, in his prime, utilised them in the best possible way, because he was a genius fighter.
Tyson's ability to throw punches with power and have quickness proves hes the best to step in the ring. With no disrespect to Ali, he was very good but did not throw hard punches compared to Tyson. His combination was remarkable but if Tyson laid a couple of open punches, which hes shown to be capable of doing, it would've been over for Ali.
@NoLimiToRise I have great respect for both fighters and i think it would be a very close fight if they both fought in their prime, but come on... ali took a fuck load of punishment off fighters like foreman, frazier... ken Norton broke ali's jaw early in the fight but ali kept taking punishment and still kept going to lose in a 12th round decision and to say that a couple of tysons punches would knock ali out is an insult and stupidly inaccurate as not once was he knocked out as a professional.
@cozmic24 throw ali in with tyson in his prime and it would be a clean ko. ali was great tyson was greater, tyson was only good for a short amount of time cuz his career came crashing down if only it hadnt all thanks to that bullshit conviction
@TheBoxingwarriors he never fought bums only bum is you how can u say he fought bums...just admit you hate tyson you dont have to bash him just cuz u hate someone
@TheBoxingwarriors you truly dont understand tyson, when you go from fukkin 400 million to 0 obviously thats gonna fuck your head up and your never gonna be the same person thats why he started going crazy and no a rematch with buster douglas would have been opposite
@TheBoxingwarriors tyson never even got a split decision in his prime never came close to losing how could he avenge a loss when nobody could beat him?
@TheBoxingwarriors wtf are u talking about dude tyson had everything u act like you have to be a god to beat ali dude frazier beat ali so did some other dude i forgot his name ali wasnt that good tyson was the best ever and you can say douglas beat tyson in his prime but everyone knows tysons prime ended when he left rooney you could see his defense was nothing when he fought bruno and ali would of gotten fkocked out if he trained for 2 weeks and then fought buster period
@TheBoxingwarriors ok shavers and foreman. Is shavers or foreman anyhere near as fast as tyson? no do shavers or froeman have a defense half as good as tyson no so whats your point? tyson was the fastest and most powerfull heavyweight in his time was ali no he was just fast
mike tyson is the greatest boxxer ever fact
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187mamapimpmafia 2 days ago
1:07 inhuman hand speed..good gracious. Tyson never had to deal with anything like that..
freshprince58 5 days ago
tyson would finish that fight in my opinion, i agree he'd be floating, but it be because tyson caught him lol
CamelonTegra 5 days ago
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Tyson couldn't knock out lesser fighters than Ali.
shadows987987 1 day ago
tbh even tho i heavent met either, i would much rather go in the ring with ali then tyson....tyson is a killer!
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alboooze 1 week ago
ali would destroy tyson. i dont know how people can say tyson is the best compared to ali. im going to tell yall how it'd go. it'd first be out side of the ring. ali obviously would get to tyson with all his shit talking. then they'd meet in the ring. ali would dance around tyson. none stop dancing i mean so much dancing it confuses tysons small mind. tyson woulld get really dizy so then with ali's accuracy he'd knock him out. or it'd be by decsion cause ali is so much faster than tyson.
jsharps1000 1 week ago
@jsharps1000 Honestly, I am a supporter of both legends. Though from your perspective you don't give Tyson much credit at all. They are both tremendously skilled fighters and by the fact of your clearly one sided opinion your judgment is far from accurate because of the simple fact that you don't weigh they're skill sets up evenly.
reyo88 1 week ago
@reyo88 lol your right i didn't think that comment threw. im sorry i never took an interest in tyson. i've seen some videos of tyson but i aint a tyson type of person. i just think ali's stratgy's would defeat tyson cause the fact he has power and probly cant run as far as ali can. but never know my fault though.
jsharps1000 1 week ago
@jsharps1000 You are wrong.Ali had big problem with inside fighters.Just look on fights with Frezier and Norton.Now i will tell you something.Mike had speed and accuracy of Ali,Power of Foreman and Headmovment made by himself.In my opinion mike would destroy Muhamad.More dengerous for Mike Would be Foreman,not becouse he was better than Ali(he wasn't) just becouse in fights when fighters have same skill ,style make a fight.
leoblaugrana 1 week ago
@leoblaugrana tyson wasnt as good as joe on the inside, mike was more of a midrange fighter, he never smoothered his opponents punches, and he doesnt have the stamina or workrate of frazier. and he doesnt hit anywhere near as hard as foreman, he was more skilled but no where near as powerful. if he cant destroy tillis he isnt destroying ali
messier991102 1 week ago
@messier991102 I agree that he didn't hit hard as foreman but not like 2x times ,Foreman was just a little stronger than Mike. But he was much better than joe in getting inside .He had better headmovement and footwork than joe(every expert tell you that).I can't tell you more cus i don't know what means words like''midrange"and "smoothered".I wish you can explain it to me.
leoblaugrana 1 week ago
@leoblaugrana foreman was alot physically stronger than mike, he also hit alot harder. alot of tysons opponents who werent afraid of him said that tysons power if overrated. tyson alos got manhandled in clinches, foreman threw people, thats why physically he is alot stronger. no tyson wasnt as good as joe on the inside at all. tyson preferred range becuause his best asset was combos, he needed range. he never dug his hea into opponents chests and dug to the body non stop like joe.
messier991102 1 week ago
@leoblaugrana tyson struggled on the inside which is where he needs to be against ali. he struggled with tillis, joe would have killed tillis. his headmovement was better form a technical standpoint but joe actually had a higher slip ratio, he made his opponents miss punches more often. tysons headmovement was better for singular punches, but for a combos thrower like ali joes was better because he maintained aggression. his feet were faster but tyson alot of the times wa staggered wrong and
messier991102 1 week ago
@leoblaugrana off balanced. joe cut the ring more efficiently, tyson always struggled with boxers, had holmes been 7 years younger tyson would never have hurt him. holmes made mike look ordinary until mike landed that uppercut in round 4. mike was an excellent combo thrower but he needed range to throw them and to beat ali you need to give him no room to move. his headmovement was great, but ali who threw 5 punch combos at lightening speed would give him trouble. also when joe was hit
messier991102 1 week ago
@leoblaugrana he still came foward. when tyson was hit he would reset. this would hurt him against ali. joe came foward no matter what but tyson stopped and moved back when hit. tyson also doesnt have the stamina of joe or mental fortitude. tyson was more gifted than joe, but most of boxing is mentality an area in which tyson is lacking. he had major confidence issues. how would he respond to alis banter?
messier991102 1 week ago
very very good comments, total agree
smokinlefthook 1 week ago
@messier991102 I think that mike could talk back with Ali.Mike is very wise but many ppl can't see that becouse of media which made of him fucken criminal ,stupid bustard what wasn't true.We are talking about what could happen if they stand against themselfs in prime.When Cus lived and Kevin trained him he was very confidence of himself.He was talking about that in every interview.It's not true that he go back when he get a hit.He go back only when he get stoned.
leoblaugrana 1 week ago
The difference between Ali and Tyson is that while Tyson was banging hookers, Ali would visit detention centers for young kids like he did with Mike himself.. thus inspired him to succeed along with thousands worldwide. Pretty much doubt anyone would follow the example Tyson set.
rydeoride 2 weeks ago
every one to there own, but lets just say it would be the best fight of all time.
TeamAcXa 2 weeks ago 2
@TeamAcXa Finally someone with a smart perspective.
reyo88 1 week ago
muhammad ali*THE GREATEST*
BezzyShow 2 weeks ago
RIP Angelo Dundee, I hope when i'm in heaven someday you can train me with ali :)
wysene181 2 weeks ago 6
@wysene181 its not only youre hope its mine to we can share it :D
BezzyShow 2 weeks ago
@blaxil329. Ali had finesse, Tyson would have to catch him first.
I can't say who'd triumph, but it'd definitely be fight of the century.
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WhatTheUkraine 2 weeks ago
I think Ali was the best of his time and Tyson was the best of his time. Ali never fought anyone with Tyson's Style. Tyson was a Flurry punching powerhouse bully. If you put them in a fight it would be if Ali could adapt to this. If Tyson got on the inside would Ali's defense and counterpunching be able to save him? It's a tough call.
jayman20ja 3 weeks ago
@jayman20ja ill tell u,tyson would definitely win,examine both of there moves closely
blaxil329 3 weeks ago
@dennbb Your a hater. Tyson was better than Ali. Ali could rope a dope for 24 rounds, it would not work on Tyson. Tyson's form and angles of his punches would break through any boxer's defense. Tyson had emotional problems throughout his career without D'amato. It's wrong to say Tyson was not a good technical fighter, he could end behind his opponent if they flinched.
JiveDG 3 weeks ago
@JiveDG Clueless mug, why would you compare a 30+ Ali with Prime Tyson.. Have you even seen Alis fights in black and white.
rydeoride 2 weeks ago
as much as i love mike tyson, alis the greatest ever period, as a boxer, as a man, hes also my idol too
chrissywissy321 3 weeks ago
anyone who says ali would win against tyson is taking a (mainstream) answer because hes the most famous boxer ever and was the greatest of his time anyone who knows boxing would know boxing is so more advanced these days ali would leave way to many openings for tyson to rock him tyson was also faster and more powerfull than ali. tyson wins by KO
grimbomufc09 3 weeks ago
@grimbomufc09 Still think Ali would win, he's to quick, Tyson needs to come in low, Ali would just pick him off with his iron jabs. Ali can throw a punch in 400 hundreths of a second, no one is that fast, also goerge foreman is much, much, much stronger than tyson, and Ali withstood a savage beating for at least 12 rounds AND won by K.O, I think that at some point tyson would do something illegal out of sheer frustration from Ali's superior skill, and loose, Ali wins..
jackmcd277 3 weeks ago
@jackmcd277 You can't compare Foreman to mike.Foreman was slagger (slow,hard puncher like S.Liston)while mike was swarmer (inside fast power puncher).Mike was hybrid of Joe fraizier and Gorgi Foreman.Outside fighters(like Ali)have big problems with swarmes becouse they are so good in shorting distance.I think that George would be harder opponent to Mike than Ali.
leoblaugrana 3 weeks ago
@jackmcd277 tyson is probably faster than ali have you ever seen a heavyweight apart from ali throw combos as fast, accurate and powerful than tyson also look at tysons head movement its unbelievable. no one knows how it would end for sure but tyson isnt an easy fight for ali at all ali leaves himself open too much tyson hits ali with a deadly blow its game over for ali.
grimbomufc09 3 weeks ago
@grimbomufc09 tyson was faster than ali!? please tell me you're joking!?
westfielder 3 weeks ago
@westfielder he was just as fast have you seen his combos mixed with power and his head movement you think ali could pull of them combos tyson does with the same power cmon just because he does the ali shuffle doesnt mean hes super fast
grimbomufc09 3 weeks ago
@grimbomufc09 tyson was never faster then ali, Ali would of smashed tyson, tyson did not have heart like ali had.
whisperkid1 1 week ago
@whisperkid1 tysons combinations were just as fast as ali watch videos you will clearly see and tyson was more powerfull but your right ali had more heart
grimbomufc09 1 week ago
@grimbomufc09 nah ali combinations were a million times faster but yes tyson were more powerful.
whisperkid1 1 week ago
@whisperkid1 tyson was just as fast as ali but is capable of putting a hell of a lot more power in the punches also look at tyson in his prime his head movement and speed was unreal for a heavyweight. ali was no where near a million times faster than tyson
grimbomufc09 1 week ago
@grimbomufc09 he was a million times faster, ever seen ali v cleveland williams ? No one would of beat that ali. He was unbeatable. taht performance against williams has been said as being the best ever performance. from a boxer, as he was quick powerful and untouchable. tyson could never beat that.
whisperkid1 6 days ago
@whisperkid1 a million times faster you must be one of them ali ass lickers you have never watched tyson training or watched any of his fights in his prime he was unbelievably fast and if you think ali could hit harder than tyson then you are seriously deluded when tyson fought spinks boxing experts said he was in the best shape and could of beat anyone on that day
grimbomufc09 6 days ago
@grimbomufc09 I didnt say he was more powerful then tyson, ali would of beating the tyson who beat spinks, Ali v williams will have proved that- Ali was quick, And had fast hand speed and has a one of the greatest chins - which tyson did not seem to have. Ali would win by k.o As tyson would be frustrated at not being able to land or hurt ali. We never saw ali in his prime but we do know it would of been out of this world- Ali is greatest of all time for a reason.
whisperkid1 5 days ago
@whisperkid1 watch the video of tysons 5 punch combo in under a second
grimbomufc09 1 week ago
And anyone that has some knowledge of boxing knows Tyson was in his prime when Buster Douglas KO'd him. And when he had those boring decisions against Tucker Smith that made his PR machine panic. Tyson didn't have 27 1st rd KO's it was more like 20 and against nobodies. Lamar Clark had 28 1st rd KO's and he couldn't beat Ali either. Tyson had awesome power and speed, He was NOT a good technical fighter. D'amato Turned him into a bigger Floyd Patterson. Liston hit harder than Tyson.
dennbb 3 weeks ago
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leoblaugrana 3 weeks ago
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@dennbb He wasn't prepare good to this fight.Sparing partener ko him before that fight.His prime time (when Kevin Rooney train him).Technic=speed+accuracy+headmovement +chill in ring.He had it all.Larry holmes,berbrick,Spinks weren't nobodies.Ali had big problems with fighters whoes had style like tyson.I mean Joe and Norton.Mike was better version of Joe,That's why i think he could win with Muhamed by KO.I think that Ali couldn'stand Mike's bombs.
leoblaugrana 3 weeks ago
MUHAMMAD ALI all the way.
VOICESINMYHEAD1 3 weeks ago 13
ALI RULES!
sc4rf27 3 weeks ago
muhhamed ali and mike tyson are both muslims thats why they were the best fighters ever in boxing!!!
StrivingFeesabiliah 4 weeks ago
@StrivingFeesabiliah WTF are you talking about, have you seen tyson fight he does the whole, the father the son and the holy spirit thing before a fight.
jackmcd277 3 weeks ago
@lufc339 LOL Spinks was an over the Hill lightheavy that was terrified of Tyson. How could anyone in their right mind think that a guy that was knocked out by Douglas, Struggled with the likes Smith, Tucker, and Tillis, and ducked Holyfield and Lewis while they wee in their primes. Another chump Tyson ass kisser that would suck his dick if he had a chance, heard from. PFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTT
fuggetabodit 4 weeks ago
2:30 The guy standing up is crazy...
electrix10 1 month ago
@electrix10 thats joe frazier, he would kill ali in a situation like that
messier991102 3 weeks ago
i feel bad for tysons punching bag, and anyones face who was in the way of his fists too,
slowem1 1 month ago
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Before Tyson parted with Kevin Rooney he was physically the greatest fighter of all time, his punches/combinations and head movement were perfect and he was the best fighter to ever use the cus d'amato peek-a-boo style. when he had the right people in his corner and the will too win, Evander holyfield and lennox lewis would have been knocked out by Tyson. by the time he went in the ring with both of them his Style and tactics had changed completely with the wrong people training him.
lufc339 1 month ago
Ali would have frustrated Tyson...Mikes catches 3 punches walking in gets tied up....break...repeat repeat repeat repeat repeat......once Tyson couldn't ko you by round 5 he was just another figther
renduke 1 month ago
Tyson really a nightmare
hofra01 1 month ago
@thehitchrules
Muhammad Ali : 2 first round knockouts
Mike Tyson : 23 first round knockouts
Earnie Shavers : 24 first round knockouts
Jack Dempsey : 26 first round knockouts
Shannon Briggs : 30 first round knockouts
I guess with your logic Briggs would crush them all ? But as we know even an old Ali beat Earnie Shavers lol
pfitzger2e1 1 month ago 14
Congratalation Muhhamad ali 70 year
R.I.P Joe freizer
sory my english bad
SpitfOll 1 month ago
TYSON!!!!
lufc339 1 month ago
@shadows987987 tyson had more than power....maybe not after prison but before 88 he was the best fighter too ever use the cus damato peekaboo style, and would have torn Ali apart considering he was faster, stronger, and could use both hands far better than frazier
lufc339 1 month ago
@lufc339
Tyson only punches harder than Ali and has a better defence. Every other advantage Ali has, including the most important one: a brain.
shadows987987 1 month ago
@shadows987987 Tyson had faster combinations, and with the original team Tyson, he was just as good psychologically as Ali and and even more confident in all his abilities, Ali was only confident in his speed, his famous rope a dope didnt work with Frazier, Tyson would have shut him down.
lufc339 1 month ago
@lufc339
Tyson does not have the stamina, the heart, the determination, nor the emotions needed to do what Frazier did. Frazier was a true, fearless, warrior. With his team? That automatically makes Ali the better man. Tyson used to cry before his fights. He does not have Ali's confidence. Ali would break him down mentally and reduce him to a brawler. Also he did not have faster combos. It is only that he threw them more frequently than Ali.
shadows987987 1 month ago
@lufc339
People seem to forget that Ali dominated Frazier for the first half of the rounds and Frazier only beat him later because of his stamina, something Tyson does not have. Tyson could not KO James Tillis (because he actually fought back), how would he KO Ali? With Tyson it is always should have, could have and would have. There is a huge chunk in him.
shadows987987 1 month ago
@shadows987987 with Tyson it is always going to be should have, could have and would have, because he didn't do what Ali did and come back after a lay off and beat the top opponents who he faced, but you forget we are talking about who WOULD have won between prime Tyson and prime Ali, and the ball is very much in Tysons court as well as Ali's. Tyson never reached his potential and is physically better by a mile and Ali's stamina would be gone from Tyson precise body shots and head weaving
lufc339 1 month ago
@lufc339
If there is one thing that Ali can take, it is body shots. I don't rate Tyson's raw power very highly, I rate his accuracy. You are right Tyson didn't do any of that. When he lost he couldn't get back up. Ali could and that is what makes him great: overcoming defeat. Boxing is more a thinking mans sport than a physical one. Tillis did show thathe could face Tyson though and Ali can do everything 10x better. How do you know Tyson never reached his potential?
shadows987987 1 month ago
@shadows987987 I don't know that Tyson never reached his potential, because everything we are saying here is opinion, how do you know that Ali could handle Tyson's body shots? he beat George foreman who had no accuracy swinging wildly, he beat Frazier and was copping out in the last round. Tyson had unbelievable power, look at the way he punches, and in his prime throws combinations of 5 and 6 punches ACCURATELY. Frazier couldn't use his right hand throwing one left hook? Tyson destroys Ali.
lufc339 1 month ago
@lufc339
I actually rate Frazier's left hook much higher than Tyson's. Because he had perfect form. Ali never dodged Foreman's shots. He took most of them. I do think Ali reached his potential. He may have got a little better during the 3 year layoff. But I don't think it would have been by much. Tyson had good power, not unbelievable. Even fighters in Tyson's time punched harder than him. I don't see Tyson hitting Ali with 5-6 punch combos.
shadows987987 1 month ago
@shadows987987 Frazier didn't have perfect form, Tyson did, you cant argue that prime mikes form was perfect as his trainer was so strict, foreman's hits weren't hitting Ali clean, I should know I watched the fight yesterday, to say Tyson power was not unbelievable then your no less than an idiot, he could put forward more power in less time than any other fighter in history, and the whole point of the 5-6 punch combos is you cant avoid all of them, especially not Ali
lufc339 1 month ago
@lufc339
Frazier had a hook that was picture perfect. It was just 'the moment'. Foreman didn't have to hit people on target to knock them out. Destroying lesser fighters doesn't quite make you an all-time great. Tyson had very poor Stamina, because he had a breathing problem. He did train hard, I agree there. Tyson did not have special power. His opponents have admitted that they have faced harder punchers, just not faster punchers.
shadows987987 1 month ago
@shadows987987 so was Tyson with both hands, the fact that foreman didnt need to hit other opponents on target too knock them out has nothing to do with what I was saying? I never said Tyson was an all time great we are not comparing records here we are comparing the two fighters in there primes?! Tyson had breathing problems when he was younger but his stamina was good, Tyson stopped training hard after he fired Rooney, I didn'tsay Tyson's punch was the hardest but no fighter with the speed/pow
lufc339 1 month ago
@lufc339 Tyson trained hard for Holyfield II and he recaptured the title without Rooney so he obviously trained hard.
sonofaballer96 1 month ago
@sonofaballer96 Tyson didn't train correctly and not in the same way Cus a Rooney trained him who new exactly how to train someone at the peek-a-boo style which was what made Tyson sensational, he wasn't the same fighter since the mike spinks fight after the firing of his trainer he got rocked for the first time against frank bruno, Tyson stopped being a smart fighter after 88 and just tried to plow through his opponents without the same tactics, head movements and combinations as he used to.
lufc339 1 month ago
@lufc339
Why couldn't Ali avoid them? He had more raw speed than Tyson and his reflexes were naturally better. Tyson was an exciting fighter. This does not equal greatness. He had one of the best mentors and trainers in history though.
shadows987987 1 month ago
@shadows987987 Ali took massive hits from frazier and foreman, so he wouldnt avoid tysons punches, ali threw fast punches but they werent hard, he didnt move in the body and the torso like tyson and spring from the legs with bad intentions with every blow, they were more like fast arm punches too rack up the points, yes tyson was an exiting fighter and in 88 would have beaten a prime Ali.
Tyson-more powerful, ferocious, better defense/offense and just as quick in prime
lufc339 1 month ago
@lufc339
Boxing: Thinking man's game < Tyson said this.
shadows987987 1 month ago
@shadows987987 Tyson said this because he did think, he used to rely on his elusiveness and his speed not just his strength before he fired Kevin Rooney, he said a tough man will get hurt really badly in boxing, which is exactly what he did and after prison relied on mainly his punching power and aggressiveness too win fights, which is why he lost without a game plan against Holyfield and buster Douglas.
Tyson with Kevin Rooney in his corner is mentally as strong as Ali. Physically Ali no chance
lufc339 1 month ago
@lufc339
I don't count the fights Ali had with Foreman and Frazier as his prime. He had lost most of his speed by then. Tyson could get his body into a punch that much is true. But using elusiveness and speed doesn't make you a smart fighter. A smart fighter is someone who can change their game plan and find a way to get back from losing. I count the use of the brain to be more important than the physical. That is why I think Ali would win.
shadows987987 1 month ago
@shadows987987 everything you say is true and so is what i'm saying so lets just agree too disagree.
lufc339 1 month ago
@lufc339
Sure. I've been arguing back and forth on this video for 3 years now. And in that that I don't think I've changed anyone’s opinion and no one has changed mine.
shadows987987 1 month ago
@shadows987987 neither of our opinions are wrong, we just have different views, I used to be pro Ali with this match up but after 2 years of training mikes style and learning about his life and career I cant help but be biased to Tyson, and this subject will be debated forever as they are complete opposites in fighting style and each others worst nightmares. in their primes I think physically Tyson was the greatest, Ali mentally, Cus told Tyson his personality made him almost unbeatable.
lufc339 1 month ago
@shadows987987 If Tyson was a smart fighter he would of beat Holyfield the 2nd time, I'm not saying he was dumb though and I've seen almost all his fights.
sonofaballer96 1 month ago
@sonofaballer96
I never said that Tyson was a smart figher. I agree that he is mentally weak.
shadows987987 1 month ago
@lufc339
I don't think Ali would destroy Tyson. I think he would get a UD after a pretty decent fight, the same that I am pretty sure Tyson would not destroy Ali. Tyson could not destroy lesser fighters. Ali has never been knocked out. I can say that Ali was great, but Tyson never reached his so called potential. Ali did and that in itself is a skill.
shadows987987 1 month ago
@shadows987987 Tyson could destroy lesser fighters, because thats exactly what he did, and if tyson ever did get taken too the decision he still dominated every round. Tyson had better stamina than Ali in his prime, he just had the style that needed the stamina of a god, no one trained harder than mike before 88
lufc339 1 month ago
@lufc339
I'm not saying Tyson couldn't beat Ali, I just see it is unlikely. Every heavy weight has the chance to beat another. And you are right about Foreman, he would have knocked out Tyson in the 2nd/3rd round. Quite a few sluggers would have.
shadows987987 1 month ago
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@lufc339
I'm not saying Tyson couldn't beat Ali, I just see it is unlikely. Every heavy weight has the chance to beat another. And you are right about Foreman, he would have knocked out Tyson in the 2nd/3rd round. Quite a few sluggers would have.
shadows987987 1 month ago
@shadows987987 James tillis didnt fight back he ran away from tyson and you forget how young tyson was then and he has always said that fight was a learning curve for him and it was a confidence thing (as i said he never reached his potential, even though he could have wooped any heavyweight in history in the mike spinks fight), plus tyson dominated every round. as styles make fights the only fighter in history i can think of that would have beat prime Mike is george foreman
lufc339 1 month ago
@leafsyo11 if someone is stupid enough to think ali would beat tyson, it would be in the later rounds....around round? you clearly know nothing about boxing or the 2 fighters on the video
lufc339 1 month ago
@fuggetabodit anyone that knows squat about boxing would think Ali is better, but anyone who knows squat about Tyson would know that in his prime he would have knocked out Ali. you go by what's on their record, look at Tyson's career, he never hit his peak because of Don king and his skills degraded over the next 15 years of his career, but at the Mike Spinks fight and with Kevin Rooney in his corner Ali wouldn't have stood a chance.
Ali-overrated as a boxer
Tyson- physically the Greatest
lufc339 1 month ago
if Frazier could do that much damage too Ali then Tyson would have destroyed him, with Rooney in the Tyson corner he was like a weapon commanding Tyson too rip perfect combinations with the perfect amount of slips and weaves, take away don king and Tyson takes the greatest of all time crown.
lufc339 1 month ago
@lufc339 Frazier was better then tyson, Fraizier had heart to do that to ali, Tyson never had heart. Ali would of smashed tyson.
whisperkid1 1 week ago
@whisperkid1 fuck debating, go look at a previous argument comment if you want a response to this.
lufc339 1 week ago
Tyson would win
i5Gamers 1 month ago
Muhammed Ali : 2 first round knock-outs.
Mike Tyson : 27 first round knock-outs.
Enough said
thehitchrules 1 month ago 11
@thehitchrules who were Tysons 1st round Kos against ? Plus that is a biased conclusion. George Foreman had more 1st round Kos than Ali as well. Ali KO'd Foreman, and Poor George hit the canvas hard !
mrcjrowe 1 month ago
@mrcjrowe Foreman 15 first round knock-outs. Who were his against also ?!
thehitchrules 1 month ago
@thehitchrules
WOW... Judging my KO percentage. Doesn't make any sense.
shadows987987 1 month ago
@shadows987987 ?? what ?
thehitchrules 1 month ago
@thehitchrules huh. not about the knock outs. its about skill
ollyrae 1 month ago
@thehitchrules Ali never Ko'ed.....Tyson Ko'ed 3 maybe 4 times ? Enough said
I mean seriously guys Mitch Green, Bone Crusher Smith, Razor Ruddock all went the distance and Ali wouldn't ? Yeaaa rightt !!!
Ali lands 9 unanswered punches in the 10th Ref stops it.
renduke 1 month ago
@renduke James Tillis also
sonofaballer96 1 month ago
@thehitchrules Mike Tyson doesn't have the most first round ko's and Ali has average heavyweight punches, that's still hard. Ali beat George Foreman and he would destroy Tyson and even his best trainers who were like his family said he would beat him.
sonofaballer96 1 month ago
@thehitchrules So What if he did, George Foreman had 9 first round knock-outs and 15 or 16 second round knock-outs before he fought Ali.. You claim he won that fight?
KokapeliTMG 1 month ago
@thehitchrules tyson gets worse as rounds continue, ali gets better, your statement means if ali survives first round, thats is tyson loses and ali wins :), which is wat would happen anyways
MrALItheGREATEST 1 month ago
@thehitchrules that has nothing to do with anything
cnceddie 1 month ago
Everybody loved and love Ali for his character (me to).But everyone who have some knolege about boxing he will agree that tyson in his prime would destroy any oponent.Tyson isn't only about strength.He had everyting balance ,speed he was also great technical fighter.
leoblaugrana 1 month ago 9
@leoblaugrana actually no cuz we all no tyson wasnt stable so ali would mess with his mind and ali was 1000000000000 faster in his prime in speed and fastest puncher in history man........... ali floated like a butterfly and stinged like a bee thats y he is the greatest
happy123456ification 1 month ago
@happy123456ification he wasn't stable out of the ring but when he came on ring he was focus and angry bad man.Ali was just a little bit faster than mike ,not like 1000000x faster ,just a little bit.But he would lose that speed by mike's bodies punches which were also so fuckin strong.Ali had strongest chin ever but i think he couldn't stand mike's hooks.So in my opinion mike was the greatest fighter of all time.Just look at fight with fraizer .He fought same like mike and almost won.
leoblaugrana 1 month ago
@happy123456ification prime mikes combinations were just as fast as Ali's and were 10 times harder coming straight up from the legs as his torso twisted madly. NO fighter in heavyweight history was able to do that. Ali could barely float round Frazier so he would have had chance against mikes speed.
lufc339 1 month ago
@leoblaugrana Ali had personality, character and skill - techniques that had not been seen before. Tyson studied Ali and all the previous boxers techniques, so not too far fetched that he is better all new Prodigies will be exclaimed to be the greatest is it the way of progress.
borys66 1 month ago
@borys66 In your answer it's my answer.Why mike was the best?.Becouse he was special mix of all back champs.Hooks Louis,strength Foreman ,accuracy and speed Ali.But head movement man..he born with it.
leoblaugrana 1 month ago
@leoblaugrana but he was not that strong to compete with holyfield and lewis who are the real fuckin beasts
slugfestdude 1 month ago
@slugfestdude He wasn't same Mike after being in a jail.He lost his speed in hands and body.But i must agree that Holyfield in their first was a beast.But he stoned mike 2 times by his head in third round.He was shadow of himself in fight with Lewis.He told in interwiev that he fought only for money.
It's samke like saying that holmes and berbrick were beasts in fights with Ali.
leoblaugrana 4 weeks ago
MUHAMMAD ALI=GREATEST OF ALL TIME
MIKE TYSON=GREATEST IN HIS TIME
hoerenzonen54 3 weeks ago
Muhammad Ali is a faster attacker and is a more technical fighter, it has very adaptable strategic ability, Mike Tyson is faster to shun and in to lower and strikes with a lot of more violence, but he has never fought many ruonds as winner, Muhammad Ali him because he has developed more resistance in the duration of the matches and in to box,in more let's not forget not us that Muhammad Ali was a provoker while Tyson easily lost the control.Two greats.
BoxeAndWrestling 1 month ago
@BoxeAndWrestling if you ook at he videos of ali and tyson on youtube it is very clear that tyson wud hav destroyed ali. to strong nd vicious for ali. people tink ali wu hav aggrevated and teased tyson but tyson wud still have battered ali hands dwn. tyson was the best boxerthat ever lived and will ever step into a ring.
johnnyhueston 1 month ago
@johnnyhueston I am not sure of it, Muhammad Ali was very fast to give fists, therefore it is very uncertain according to me.
BoxeAndWrestling 1 month ago
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He will be mine, in round nine, and I ain't lyin'.
He must fall in eight, to prove that I am great.
He wanted to go to heaven, so I took him in seven.
If he'd be in a word of fix, I cut it to six.
If he keeps talkin' jive, he will fall in five.
If he makes me sore, I'll get him in round four, like before, with Archie moore, on the floor.
If that don't do, we'll get him in two.
If he runs, we can get him in one.
If he don't wanna fight, he should keep his ugly self at home that night.
- Ali
brooklyn560 1 month ago
@NoLimiToRise Tyson never fought anyone with Ali's mobility and reaction times and Ali had plenty of power ;) Tyson was a very good fighter however he mostly fought either has beens or Don King specials. Ali did it for many years more, against better opposition and in far more social and physically adverse situations. He would beat Tyson and the poems would have been even better :)
trashcanman1967 1 month ago
People forget Foreman hit just as hard if not harder than tyson, and ali chopped him down.
SAFCpr 1 month ago
@SAFCpr - yeah but foreman didnt have a defense no where near as good as tyson and was no where near as fast as tyson thats mike's advantages on that 1
Dave16101991 1 month ago
@Dave16101991 true that. however me personally ali would out think tyson in the ring and make him fight his fight
SAFCpr 1 month ago
@SAFCpr yeah but tyson was like 100 times faster than foreman better head movement better accuracy tyson would rip ali to shreds in his prime ali leaves so many openings for his opponents to hit him and with the accuracy and power of tyson he would drop ali on his ass while hes trying to do an ali shuffle
grimbomufc09 3 weeks ago
@grimbomufc09 He left himself open because he could, and was still untouchable. Ali greatest of all time. End of story.
XSVterror18 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
@XSVterror18 and you think tyson would not be able to hit ali because of his jab tyson was an expert at getting inside fighters like ive said many times before ali would get too cocky and if tyson lands a powerfull punch on ali its game over
grimbomufc09 3 weeks ago
@grimbomufc09 tyson also hit ribalta with everything he had and he tkod him in 10 rounds. tillis who is a poor mans ali took tyson the distance and only was knocked down once and it was a flash kd. he was never hurt by tyson. mike had great power but never on the level of foreman liston or shavers. tyson is not koing ali
messier991102 3 weeks ago
6:55.........nuff said....
wattsr81 1 month ago
3:45 nuff said
SmOk3NDr0 1 month ago
mike tyson the best forever
3oHe1 1 month ago
lol gotta love the uniform ali was wearing 1:42 XD
hashimnasser1 1 month ago
ali was fighting in 1954??? wtf doesnt it mean 1964 0.33
hashimnasser1 1 month ago
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The difference is that,
The best boxers Tyson fought was, Bruno, Larry holmes, Holyfield and Lennox. Tyson lost to Holyfield twice and Lennox.
Best boxers Ali fought was, Frazier, Foreman, Patterson, Cooper and Liston. Ali lost to Frazier but also beat him twice. The rest Ali beat with ease apart from Cooper in both fights.
Verdict: Muhammed Ali would wear him down and pick him of round by round to win the fight from a KO in the 8th
5tonney 1 month ago
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5tonney 1 month ago
I like both they are both legendary fighters. but I've seen mike tyson fighting more than ali and tyson is way younger than ali so I have to say nobody wins they would have to fight for us to see.
meattheplaza 1 month ago
MUHAMMAD ALI
mrcjrowe 1 month ago
RIP 6:54
chrissywissy321 1 month ago
why did they never fight each other?
ultimerapid 1 month ago
@ultimerapid
Ali retired in 1981.Tyson's pro debut was in1985.That's why.
suriamarsuli 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
@ultimerapid
Are you being serious?
leadster88 1 month ago
@leadster88 yes
3oHe1 1 month ago
@ultimerapid Ali was an old man with Parkinsons
eviilhomerr 1 month ago
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People tend to animalise Tyson. He wasn't just some lunatic freak that was stronger/faster than everyone.The way he dodged/weaved/moved in the ring, got in on the inside and anticipated punches was sheer GENIUS. It's only that he made it look easy that people overlook it. Your physical attributes mean nothing in a fight unless you can utilise them, and Tyson, in his prime, utilised them in the best possible way, because he was a genius fighter.
Ali would have had no chance against him.
MrBrinks 1 month ago
Tyson's ability to throw punches with power and have quickness proves hes the best to step in the ring. With no disrespect to Ali, he was very good but did not throw hard punches compared to Tyson. His combination was remarkable but if Tyson laid a couple of open punches, which hes shown to be capable of doing, it would've been over for Ali.
NoLimiToRise 1 month ago
@NoLimiToRise I agree
StubbornMook 1 month ago
@NoLimiToRise I have great respect for both fighters and i think it would be a very close fight if they both fought in their prime, but come on... ali took a fuck load of punishment off fighters like foreman, frazier... ken Norton broke ali's jaw early in the fight but ali kept taking punishment and still kept going to lose in a 12th round decision and to say that a couple of tysons punches would knock ali out is an insult and stupidly inaccurate as not once was he knocked out as a professional.
seanrwpascoe 1 month ago
Happy Birthday Champ !
AntiTurtles 1 month ago
@TheBoxingwarriors dude u are disrespecting Forman, he annailated frazier twice(2:0) and u still put him behind
kkhunter87 1 month ago
How do you get Golden Gloves?? btw I live in Scotland UK
UsernameYouCantHate 1 month ago
@cozmic24 throw ali in with tyson in his prime and it would be a clean ko. ali was great tyson was greater, tyson was only good for a short amount of time cuz his career came crashing down if only it hadnt all thanks to that bullshit conviction
ranjot2010 1 month ago
@TheBoxingwarriors he never fought bums only bum is you how can u say he fought bums...just admit you hate tyson you dont have to bash him just cuz u hate someone
ranjot2010 1 month ago
@TheBoxingwarriors you truly dont understand tyson, when you go from fukkin 400 million to 0 obviously thats gonna fuck your head up and your never gonna be the same person thats why he started going crazy and no a rematch with buster douglas would have been opposite
ranjot2010 1 month ago
@TheBoxingwarriors he never came back cuz he went to jail and don bitch and the people around him never game him a chance
ranjot2010 1 month ago
@TheBoxingwarriors you the only fool ive met on here who said a boxers prime was when he wasnt boxing.
bill23138 1 month ago
@TheBoxingwarriors dude its impossible to have a prime when u arent boxing are u retarded?
bill23138 1 month ago
@TheBoxingwarriors but his prime stooped when rooney left him dumbass
bill23138 1 month ago
@TheBoxingwarriors tyson never even got a split decision in his prime never came close to losing how could he avenge a loss when nobody could beat him?
bill23138 1 month ago
@TheBoxingwarriors wtf are u talking about dude tyson had everything u act like you have to be a god to beat ali dude frazier beat ali so did some other dude i forgot his name ali wasnt that good tyson was the best ever and you can say douglas beat tyson in his prime but everyone knows tysons prime ended when he left rooney you could see his defense was nothing when he fought bruno and ali would of gotten fkocked out if he trained for 2 weeks and then fought buster period
bill23138 1 month ago
@TheBoxingwarriors ok shavers and foreman. Is shavers or foreman anyhere near as fast as tyson? no do shavers or froeman have a defense half as good as tyson no so whats your point? tyson was the fastest and most powerfull heavyweight in his time was ali no he was just fast
bill23138 1 month ago