I guess viruses, bacteria, mutations, and natural disasters also declare the glory of God. The teleological argument and the argument from design is flawed.
@KingJamesBible, Do you understand Christian theology? God is all knowing right? So since God knew Adam and Eve would disobey God by being deceived by the talking snake to eat the fruit from the forbidden tree, why did God place the forbidden tree and the talking snake in the garden in the first place? That's like me placing a magical poisonous berry in a child's playpen while I had the direct foreknowledge that the child would be poisoned.
@Nash The relationship between Man and God is liken to a man and women marrying. Would you marry someone BEFORE you tested them so that THEY WOULD KNOW?
God does things for OUR sake, he already knows.
Nevertheless, God made a way to ESCAPE
Heb.2:3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation;..
Heb.7:25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.
@Nashhinton Those bad things were caused by sin, not God. A result of our God-given power of free choice. When we choose to turn from God, who is light, goodness, happiness and life, we automatically get the opposite - darkness, evil, sadness and death. It is not God's fault - we get what we have chosen.
@3rdangelsmsg, Yes but God is the one who cursed Adam and Eve for committing a crime that God fully planned. In other words, God's omniscience of knowing that Adam and Eve would be deceived by a talking snake to eat fruit from a tree that God created + God incompetently decides to create the forbidden tree in the garden anyway, fully knowing that Adam and Eve would be deceived because of God's omniscience= God is a complete moron. If God does exist, to me it's evidence of bad design.
"You and I dont have to defend this Book (the bible), you and I dont have to defend a Lion. If you open the cage the Lion will defend himself"
I do feel the responsibility to defend it though. Because people with fight against it tooth, nail and blood. Not so much other faiths, but all these non believers and deniers. They dont want there to be a God, they dont want there to be a retribution and a final Judgement. Thats all, they are living in denial. I feel pitty for them more than anger
A circle is a simple shape of Euclidean geometry consisting of those points in a plane that are a given distance from a given point, the centre. Wikipedia
A plane is flat.
The earth is not a circle with someone sitting above it like the men who wrote the bible said.
@gregrutz because scientists were not reading their Bible.
Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle (not flat) of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that STRETCHETH OUT THE HEAVENS as a curtain, and SPREADETH THEM OUT as a tent to dwell in:
When science does actually find something true it ALWAYS lines up with the book.
@KingJamesBible Never taken a science class and now you show you have never taken a math class either. I can draw a circle on a flat piece of paper, they are 2D, FLAT !
The men who wrote the bible thought the world was flat, everyone did.
Science found out the earth is millions of years old and there was no global flood, stop lying or you will go to hell.
@gregrutz no dummy, if you draw a circle on paper it is NOT FLAT, that ink makes for another dimension. It may be small (even miniscule) BUT IT'S THERE none-the-less scientifically speaking. You like science? don't you? then you KNOW I am correct. Show me one verse that says the earth is flat. Just one will do ok?
@gregrutz and I suppose you think God sitting on the erath is like sitting on a piece of paper? seriously even IF you don't believe in God or believe the Bible is his word how could you possible conclude that circle reference in Isaiah is Flat? Someone told you this? You certainly did not conclude that on your own.
@KingJamesBible Isaiah 40 : 22-24 “He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth,
1. Math says circles are flat.
2. How do you sit ABOVE a sphere, which way is up from the earth?
3. Read the first page of the bible and tell me the men who wrote it didn't think the earth didn't move.
''Seperate the light from the dark" Light is a Boson in the Standard Model of the atom, the force carrier for the Electromagnetic Force. When did God make the other Intermediate Vector Bosons?
@gregrutz A circle can only be considered flat IF it is drawn on paper. The earth is not drawn on paper.
If you look at everything God made (as opposed to what MAN makes) there are no straight lines, man uses straight lines, God does not. If it was flat, technically you could look at it from an angle that would make it look straight. sorry, this is not God's design and it is NOT flat. Still looking for that verse that says the earth is flat. Have any or just puppeting what you were told?
@gregrutz According to the Bible a circle is MORE than 2 dimensions, why anyone would come to the conclusion that a circle (the Bible does not say PLANE) in describing the earth, is flat, is beyond comprehension.
If you want to do the right thing, then for the next two years only research what is wrong with evolution and you'll have a different outlook on the whole debate. You see, all (or almost all) of us have been thoroughly schooled in the myth of evolution, because it was shoved down our throughts in public school. On the other hand, most haven't had a fair opportunity to understand what is so wrong with evolution. Try to do some honest research before you support one side of the debate.
#1 The moon is not a light. Any reason why your God doesn't know this?
#2 Yep...a billion trillion stars...with a trillion trillion planets. How arrogant and ignorant does one have to be to declare "all this is just for us!"
#3 How delusional does one have to be to believe any of these stars will come crashing down on earth like the bible claims?
There may be real God(s)...but they are not found in bronze age myths.
@TheHigherVoltage 1) God certainly knows that it does NOT shine but REFLECTS the sun's light. Job 25:5 Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not; yea, the stars are not pure in his sight.
2) Everything was made for HIM, not us. Revelation 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, (that would include stars) and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
@KingJamesBible (1) Job 25:5 is describing how even the moon and stars are unworthy in God's eyes. It does not change the statement in Genesis, how the moon is a light.
(2) "Everything was made for HIM, not us." And then you quote Rev. Funny then how I can search the bible for "Behold I made for YOU" and find shitloads of things God supposedly made for us, not himself.
Contradiction? Yep. Will you be able to acknowledge it? not likely.
@TheHigherVoltage The moon is a light, it's just not the source of the light. You skipped the first half of the verse and only looked at the second half (another truth) Job 25:5 Behold even to the moon, and IT shineth not, Show me one verse that says everything was made for us? I'll help you out. It's not there.
@KingJamesBible "The moon is a light, it's just not the source of the light."
The moon is not a light. A reflector of light is not a light. You might as well be calling a mirror a light.
"Show me one verse that says everything was made for us?"
My point about "all this for us!" was illustrate the stupidity of a story that claims this entire universe was made so humans could be tested by an invisible overlord.
Can you point to a verse that says stars are 'the sons of god'?
@TheHigherVoltage God is never called an "overlord". That sounds like satan talking, something from a Hellywood movie. God did not make the entire universe so that he could "test" anything. He made everything for his good pleasure. I can't prove (some) stars are the sons of god from scripture but they are connected since angels certainly are connected with stars and they are spoken of synonymously in Job.
@KingJamesBible I would agree no real God is an overlord, however, Yahweh - definitely an imaginary overlord - not much different than Zeus.
And I really don't know wtf you're talking about with stars = 'sons of god'. Stars are naturally formed, gigantic nuclear fusion reactors. The have a life cycle based on how much hydrogen they accumulated before pressure-ignition, and all stars eventually explode into a super nova when that fuel runs out. There's nothing supernatural about them at all.
The letter 'J' wasn't even invented till the 14th century. The word/name "Jesus" didn't even exist till then.
"Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the NAME of the Lord shall be saved."
Matthew 7:1 "21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven."
Just one of thousands of point-blank irreconcilable contradictions in the babble.
@TheHigherVoltage In case you hadn't noticed, this is the 21st century. I'm interested in the name GOD GAVE US for the 21st century in the universal language (English) of his word (King James Bible). If I was a Hebrew speaking / writing / reading man who put his faith in Jesus Christ (as the messiah) and I used the Hebrew word... then I'm sure God would accept that... but I'm NOT! and neither are you. Not a contridiction, a clarification.
@KingJamesBible oh? God renamed himself? Any reason why? I mean, he kept most of the other characters names intact...Adam, Eve, Noah, Abraham... So why did he change his own name? Boredom? or bullshit?
And why did you avoid addressing the contradiction I pointed out? Actually, never mind. Tell me : how do you convince yourself that anyone who speaks a 'magic word' suddenly earns a magical afterlife? Faith? Or did you have to wrestle with the stupidity of the claim before believing it?
@TheHigherVoltage Getting saved it a bit more than just saying some words, it's a matter of the heart
Romans 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and IN THY HEART: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe IN THY HEART that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Only uttering words and not believing in your heart is what constitutes a hypocrite.
@KingJamesBible .'believe in your heart'??? The heart is a muscle that pumps blood. That's it. Seems kind of childish...and a verifiable lie...to claim the heart is capable of believing anything.
I'm still curious about your stance on 'stars'. You claim these are also suppose to be beings. Once again, we know that stars are natural, and have life cycles based on their fuel supply before exploding. How are they suppose to be supernatural?
even your own scientist believe you can feel and know things trough your heart, and even use the term' i know and believe in my heart that She (his wife) loves me, so the statement you make is not even what your own so called scientists believe sorry
@KingJamesBible (3) You're all kinds of delusional with this one. Job 38:7 differentiates the stars AND the sons. Yet, you claim the stars ARE the sons. Big difference dude.
And wtf? holy-wood? It's HOLLYWOOD - and has nothing to do with religion. It was named after a resort home. Los Angeles? Really? So, every city named from a religious myth makes it mean something? Look up the origin of Thursday...guess that makes Greek mythology real too?
@TheHigherVoltage Genesis1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: HE MADE THE STARS ALSO. This happens on day 4
Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. This is the context of Job 38:7 WHEN the foundations were laid (BEFORE day 4) and those "stars" (also known as sons of god) SANG together and shouted for joy.
It is so obvious that the Creator created the most marvelous sceneries on this planet and beyond & created incredible life on this planet too. Thanks for that awesome video showing how God moves in the most spectacular ways.
The bible just shows the arrogance of Christians to assume that the entire universe was made just for them. Its going to be such a great day when we discover life outside of our biosphere. Its just a matter of time. The verse you quoted should actually read " The heavens declare the stupidity of men who assume that existence is a gift to them from 'god'. The firmament sheweth just how pathetic you must be if you believe some magic force made it"
@TheFlyingSpaget Mr.flying Spaget the universe was created for Jesus (God) not people. " All things were through him and for Him, Colossians 1:9-20. And if you want to be a respectable academic, you must be open minded, loose your disdainful, arrogant attitude. and take on humility or at least try to. ..you can do it. Mr. Spaghetti your loved.
@TheFlyingSpaget yes finally someone with knowledge! if god created us wouldnt he have to do it out of nothing? n if he did who created that other nothingless that created us? just questions that cant be answered n never will! only the dead will see the end if we rot or our souls just wander the universe looking 4 another shell!!
@TheFlyingSpaget Yet, everyone else would rather not own up to any kind of god. they want to believe that the whole Universe came from nothing. I was just wondering, if I sealed off a room and created a vacuum, could I start my own universe just by letting it be? also, DNA, when my "Universe" starts, where does the information come from that will start life on it? can information really start randomly? is there really no purpose? either way, I'm praying for you, and know that God loves you.
@gregrutz Well pretty much everyone has been guessing since no one was there. Once you start talking about something that you can't observe or test, you've left science and went to religion. and that's exactly what evolution is. A state protected religion. either way, vacuum or not, I don't really care. the point was, how on God's green Earth did we get all of this order and design from chaos? Also, God didn't make the universe for christians. Christ came 2,000 years ago. he made it for everyone
@gregrutz first of all "God's green earth" is a saying. and how are you so positive that the earth was that old? Evolution is far from science since no one has been able to test it. were you there when the earth started? don't tell me that you found out because of carbon dating because that was proven wrong years ago. if you really take the time to look at the evidence the earth is 6,000 years old.
@AmmerBros Geologists knew the earth was million of years old before radiometric dating was invented. Carbon 14 is just one of many radiometric dating methods.
Evolution has been Observed and tested.
Were you there when Jesus rose from the dead?!?
Carbon dating has not been proven wrong, it is used all the time to date Egyptian artifacts to 6000 BC
Read a Geology book to find out how old the earth is. 4,545 million years old.
You think you can prove all of science wrong like Kent Hovind?
@TheFlyingSpaget another thing, when you say Universe, do you know what it means? its a Latin word meaning: Uni-single verse-spoken sentence. Guess what, we live in a single spoken sentence. "and God said let there be light."
@AmmerBros ''Let there be Light! '' Light is a Boson in the Standard Model of the atom, the force carrier for the Electromagnetic Force. When did God make the other Intermediate Vector Bosons?
@gregrutz God is far above us. we will never be able to comprehend him with our finite minds. like I said to someone else before. your argument has to assume God in order to deny him. its like denying air. you have to breath it in to say it doesn't exist! and don't shift the burden of proof. Evolution needs to be proven because there is no solid evidence to support it. it's a dead theory and a tax funded, state protected Religion.
@gregrutz haeckels embryos were a fake he drew, no one has ever found a "missing link" that's why they're called that. they're missing. the geologic column was made up and that's where evolutionist get their dates. carbon dating doesn't work. petrified trees are found in layers of rocks in the vertical position connecting many of them, proving those layers dont represent millions of years. all of the "proof" points to a catastrophic flood.
I guess viruses, bacteria, mutations, and natural disasters also declare the glory of God. The teleological argument and the argument from design is flawed.
Nashhinton 1 month ago
@Nashhinton no, the Bible SAYS the *heavens* delacre the glory of God. Do you have a hard time understanding plain english?
"bacteria, mutations, and natural disasters" are the results of Sin, which you would know if you read the very first few chapters of the Bible.
KingJamesBible 1 month ago
@KingJamesBible, Do you understand Christian theology? God is all knowing right? So since God knew Adam and Eve would disobey God by being deceived by the talking snake to eat the fruit from the forbidden tree, why did God place the forbidden tree and the talking snake in the garden in the first place? That's like me placing a magical poisonous berry in a child's playpen while I had the direct foreknowledge that the child would be poisoned.
Nashhinton 1 month ago
@Nash The relationship between Man and God is liken to a man and women marrying. Would you marry someone BEFORE you tested them so that THEY WOULD KNOW?
God does things for OUR sake, he already knows.
Nevertheless, God made a way to ESCAPE
Heb.2:3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation;..
Heb.7:25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.
KingJamesBible 1 month ago
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Nashhinton 1 month ago
@KingJamesBible, (continued), So technically it was God's own incompetent wrong doing that caused diseases, viruses, and natural disasters.
Nashhinton 1 month ago
@Nashhinton Those bad things were caused by sin, not God. A result of our God-given power of free choice. When we choose to turn from God, who is light, goodness, happiness and life, we automatically get the opposite - darkness, evil, sadness and death. It is not God's fault - we get what we have chosen.
3rdangelsmsg 1 month ago
@3rdangelsmsg, Yes but God is the one who cursed Adam and Eve for committing a crime that God fully planned. In other words, God's omniscience of knowing that Adam and Eve would be deceived by a talking snake to eat fruit from a tree that God created + God incompetently decides to create the forbidden tree in the garden anyway, fully knowing that Adam and Eve would be deceived because of God's omniscience= God is a complete moron. If God does exist, to me it's evidence of bad design.
Nashhinton 1 month ago
@3rdangelsmsg Light is the Boson for the electromagnetic force.
gregrutz 1 day ago
The size of the stars was estimated by scientists, earth man thought the planets were stars.
At least he shows the sun provides the energy for life so we are not violating the 2nd Law.
gregrutz 2 months ago
''And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night''
The moon is not a light, it reflexs light. The moon is out in the day half the time. The sun is just a star.
gregrutz 2 months ago
@gregrutz yes, we know the moon reflects light and if you compared scripture with scripture you would know that.
Job 25:5 Behold even to the MOON, and IT SHINETH NOT; yea, the stars are not pure in his sight.
The account in Genesis is telling you that at nght, your light from above will be RULED by the moon, that's still true.
KingJamesBible 2 months ago
@KingJamesBible '' The stars are not pure in his sight'' WHAT?
No wonder you have to study the bible. Do you ever listen to yourself?
gregrutz 2 months ago
@gregrutz you underestimate the PUREness of God... apparently.
It's not a matter of listening to me, it's listening to the Bible (which is what is quoted) you are having a problem with.
KingJamesBible 2 months ago
"You and I dont have to defend this Book (the bible), you and I dont have to defend a Lion. If you open the cage the Lion will defend himself"
I do feel the responsibility to defend it though. Because people with fight against it tooth, nail and blood. Not so much other faiths, but all these non believers and deniers. They dont want there to be a God, they dont want there to be a retribution and a final Judgement. Thats all, they are living in denial. I feel pitty for them more than anger
verminslayer 2 months ago
A circle is a simple shape of Euclidean geometry consisting of those points in a plane that are a given distance from a given point, the centre. Wikipedia
A plane is flat.
The earth is not a circle with someone sitting above it like the men who wrote the bible said.
gregrutz 2 months ago
IF the Bible was so educational, why didn't we know the universe was expanding until Scientists discovered it.
It is Big, so gawd musta dun it!
LOL
gregrutz 3 months ago
@gregrutz because scientists were not reading their Bible.
Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle (not flat) of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that STRETCHETH OUT THE HEAVENS as a curtain, and SPREADETH THEM OUT as a tent to dwell in:
When science does actually find something true it ALWAYS lines up with the book.
KingJamesBible 3 months ago
@KingJamesBible Never taken a science class and now you show you have never taken a math class either. I can draw a circle on a flat piece of paper, they are 2D, FLAT !
The men who wrote the bible thought the world was flat, everyone did.
Science found out the earth is millions of years old and there was no global flood, stop lying or you will go to hell.
gregrutz 3 months ago
@gregrutz no dummy, if you draw a circle on paper it is NOT FLAT, that ink makes for another dimension. It may be small (even miniscule) BUT IT'S THERE none-the-less scientifically speaking. You like science? don't you? then you KNOW I am correct. Show me one verse that says the earth is flat. Just one will do ok?
KingJamesBible 2 months ago
@KingJamesBible Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth.
Yes you are correct, we live in a 3 D world and to draw something it has to be 3 D, scientifically speaking.
According to MATH, a line is 1 dimentional and and a circle is 2 dimentional. >> FLAT
I forgot, you have never read a math book either. Are you home schooled?
Read the first page of the Bible and tell me it was not written by men who though the earth was the center of everything, and flat.
gregrutz 2 months ago
@gregrutz and I suppose you think God sitting on the erath is like sitting on a piece of paper? seriously even IF you don't believe in God or believe the Bible is his word how could you possible conclude that circle reference in Isaiah is Flat? Someone told you this? You certainly did not conclude that on your own.
KingJamesBible 2 months ago
@KingJamesBible Isaiah 40 : 22-24 “He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth,
1. Math says circles are flat.
2. How do you sit ABOVE a sphere, which way is up from the earth?
3. Read the first page of the bible and tell me the men who wrote it didn't think the earth didn't move.
''Seperate the light from the dark" Light is a Boson in the Standard Model of the atom, the force carrier for the Electromagnetic Force. When did God make the other Intermediate Vector Bosons?
gregrutz 2 months ago
@gregrutz A circle can only be considered flat IF it is drawn on paper. The earth is not drawn on paper.
If you look at everything God made (as opposed to what MAN makes) there are no straight lines, man uses straight lines, God does not. If it was flat, technically you could look at it from an angle that would make it look straight. sorry, this is not God's design and it is NOT flat. Still looking for that verse that says the earth is flat. Have any or just puppeting what you were told?
KingJamesBible 2 months ago
@KingJamesBible A circle is flat because according to math it is in a plane. A plane is in 2 D. Ever here of a sphere? They are round like the earth.
gregrutz 2 months ago
@gregrutz According to the Bible a circle is MORE than 2 dimensions, why anyone would come to the conclusion that a circle (the Bible does not say PLANE) in describing the earth, is flat, is beyond comprehension.
KingJamesBible 2 months ago
@KingJamesBible Well according to math a circle is flat.
Read the first page of the bible and tell me it was not written by men who thought the earth was the canter of everything.
gregrutz 2 months ago
If you want to do the right thing, then for the next two years only research what is wrong with evolution and you'll have a different outlook on the whole debate. You see, all (or almost all) of us have been thoroughly schooled in the myth of evolution, because it was shoved down our throughts in public school. On the other hand, most haven't had a fair opportunity to understand what is so wrong with evolution. Try to do some honest research before you support one side of the debate.
CoopersQuill 3 months ago
#1 The moon is not a light. Any reason why your God doesn't know this?
#2 Yep...a billion trillion stars...with a trillion trillion planets. How arrogant and ignorant does one have to be to declare "all this is just for us!"
#3 How delusional does one have to be to believe any of these stars will come crashing down on earth like the bible claims?
There may be real God(s)...but they are not found in bronze age myths.
TheHigherVoltage 4 months ago
@TheHigherVoltage 1) God certainly knows that it does NOT shine but REFLECTS the sun's light. Job 25:5 Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not; yea, the stars are not pure in his sight.
2) Everything was made for HIM, not us. Revelation 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, (that would include stars) and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
KingJamesBible 4 months ago
@TheHigherVoltage 3) Job 38:7 When the morning STARS sang together, and all the SONS of God shouted for joy?
The stars that fall are the sons of God. BTW: Ever heard of los angeles (angels), Ca.? Where in HOLY-Wood they have the "stars"
KingJamesBible 4 months ago
@KingJamesBible (1) Job 25:5 is describing how even the moon and stars are unworthy in God's eyes. It does not change the statement in Genesis, how the moon is a light.
(2) "Everything was made for HIM, not us." And then you quote Rev. Funny then how I can search the bible for "Behold I made for YOU" and find shitloads of things God supposedly made for us, not himself.
Contradiction? Yep. Will you be able to acknowledge it? not likely.
TheHigherVoltage 4 months ago
@TheHigherVoltage The moon is a light, it's just not the source of the light. You skipped the first half of the verse and only looked at the second half (another truth) Job 25:5 Behold even to the moon, and IT shineth not, Show me one verse that says everything was made for us? I'll help you out. It's not there.
KingJamesBible 4 months ago
@KingJamesBible "The moon is a light, it's just not the source of the light."
The moon is not a light. A reflector of light is not a light. You might as well be calling a mirror a light.
"Show me one verse that says everything was made for us?"
My point about "all this for us!" was illustrate the stupidity of a story that claims this entire universe was made so humans could be tested by an invisible overlord.
Can you point to a verse that says stars are 'the sons of god'?
TheHigherVoltage 4 months ago
@TheHigherVoltage God is never called an "overlord". That sounds like satan talking, something from a Hellywood movie. God did not make the entire universe so that he could "test" anything. He made everything for his good pleasure. I can't prove (some) stars are the sons of god from scripture but they are connected since angels certainly are connected with stars and they are spoken of synonymously in Job.
KingJamesBible 4 months ago
@KingJamesBible I would agree no real God is an overlord, however, Yahweh - definitely an imaginary overlord - not much different than Zeus.
And I really don't know wtf you're talking about with stars = 'sons of god'. Stars are naturally formed, gigantic nuclear fusion reactors. The have a life cycle based on how much hydrogen they accumulated before pressure-ignition, and all stars eventually explode into a super nova when that fuel runs out. There's nothing supernatural about them at all.
TheHigherVoltage 4 months ago
@TheHigherVoltage Yahweh? What's that?
Philippians 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a NAME which is ABOVER EVERY NAME:
Philippians 2:10 That at the NAME of JESUS every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the NAME of the Lord shall be saved.
KingJamesBible 4 months ago
@KingJamesBible "That at the NAME of JESUS "
The letter 'J' wasn't even invented till the 14th century. The word/name "Jesus" didn't even exist till then.
"Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the NAME of the Lord shall be saved."
Matthew 7:1 "21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven."
Just one of thousands of point-blank irreconcilable contradictions in the babble.
TheHigherVoltage 4 months ago
@TheHigherVoltage In case you hadn't noticed, this is the 21st century. I'm interested in the name GOD GAVE US for the 21st century in the universal language (English) of his word (King James Bible). If I was a Hebrew speaking / writing / reading man who put his faith in Jesus Christ (as the messiah) and I used the Hebrew word... then I'm sure God would accept that... but I'm NOT! and neither are you. Not a contridiction, a clarification.
KingJamesBible 4 months ago
@KingJamesBible oh? God renamed himself? Any reason why? I mean, he kept most of the other characters names intact...Adam, Eve, Noah, Abraham... So why did he change his own name? Boredom? or bullshit?
And why did you avoid addressing the contradiction I pointed out? Actually, never mind. Tell me : how do you convince yourself that anyone who speaks a 'magic word' suddenly earns a magical afterlife? Faith? Or did you have to wrestle with the stupidity of the claim before believing it?
TheHigherVoltage 4 months ago
@TheHigherVoltage Getting saved it a bit more than just saying some words, it's a matter of the heart
Romans 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and IN THY HEART: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe IN THY HEART that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Only uttering words and not believing in your heart is what constitutes a hypocrite.
KingJamesBible 4 months ago
@KingJamesBible .'believe in your heart'??? The heart is a muscle that pumps blood. That's it. Seems kind of childish...and a verifiable lie...to claim the heart is capable of believing anything.
I'm still curious about your stance on 'stars'. You claim these are also suppose to be beings. Once again, we know that stars are natural, and have life cycles based on their fuel supply before exploding. How are they suppose to be supernatural?
TheHigherVoltage 4 months ago
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Faithfull7 3 months ago
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@TheHigherVoltage
even your own scientist believe you can feel and know things trough your heart, and even use the term' i know and believe in my heart that She (his wife) loves me, so the statement you make is not even what your own so called scientists believe sorry
Faithfull7 3 months ago
@KingJamesBible (3) You're all kinds of delusional with this one. Job 38:7 differentiates the stars AND the sons. Yet, you claim the stars ARE the sons. Big difference dude.
And wtf? holy-wood? It's HOLLYWOOD - and has nothing to do with religion. It was named after a resort home. Los Angeles? Really? So, every city named from a religious myth makes it mean something? Look up the origin of Thursday...guess that makes Greek mythology real too?
TheHigherVoltage 4 months ago
@TheHigherVoltage Genesis1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: HE MADE THE STARS ALSO. This happens on day 4
Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. This is the context of Job 38:7 WHEN the foundations were laid (BEFORE day 4) and those "stars" (also known as sons of god) SANG together and shouted for joy.
KingJamesBible 4 months ago
''Stars are big, so God dun it.'' That's a good one. LOL
gregrutz 4 months ago
nice video - incredible universe
flowersofparadise 5 months ago
It is so obvious that the Creator created the most marvelous sceneries on this planet and beyond & created incredible life on this planet too. Thanks for that awesome video showing how God moves in the most spectacular ways.
starsapphires 5 months ago
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starsapphires 5 months ago
The bible just shows the arrogance of Christians to assume that the entire universe was made just for them. Its going to be such a great day when we discover life outside of our biosphere. Its just a matter of time. The verse you quoted should actually read " The heavens declare the stupidity of men who assume that existence is a gift to them from 'god'. The firmament sheweth just how pathetic you must be if you believe some magic force made it"
TheFlyingSpaget 6 months ago
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dfpolitowski2 6 months ago
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@TheFlyingSpaget Mr.flying Spaget the universe was created for Jesus (God) not people. " All things were through him and for Him, Colossians 1:9-20. And if you want to be a respectable academic, you must be open minded, loose your disdainful, arrogant attitude. and take on humility or at least try to. ..you can do it. Mr. Spaghetti your loved.
dfpolitowski2 6 months ago
@TheFlyingSpaget yes finally someone with knowledge! if god created us wouldnt he have to do it out of nothing? n if he did who created that other nothingless that created us? just questions that cant be answered n never will! only the dead will see the end if we rot or our souls just wander the universe looking 4 another shell!!
XxNoName69xX 5 months ago
@TheFlyingSpaget Yet, everyone else would rather not own up to any kind of god. they want to believe that the whole Universe came from nothing. I was just wondering, if I sealed off a room and created a vacuum, could I start my own universe just by letting it be? also, DNA, when my "Universe" starts, where does the information come from that will start life on it? can information really start randomly? is there really no purpose? either way, I'm praying for you, and know that God loves you.
AmmerBros 5 months ago
@AmmerBros The Big Bang was not an explosion of matter into a vacuum, guess again.
gregrutz 4 months ago
@gregrutz Well pretty much everyone has been guessing since no one was there. Once you start talking about something that you can't observe or test, you've left science and went to religion. and that's exactly what evolution is. A state protected religion. either way, vacuum or not, I don't really care. the point was, how on God's green Earth did we get all of this order and design from chaos? Also, God didn't make the universe for christians. Christ came 2,000 years ago. he made it for everyone
AmmerBros 4 months ago
@AmmerBros ''God's green earth''. You need the watch the start of this video, the earth is blue.
The order comes form the forces of nature which has been here 13 Billion years.
Scientists don't guess or use faith.
gregrutz 4 months ago
@gregrutz first of all "God's green earth" is a saying. and how are you so positive that the earth was that old? Evolution is far from science since no one has been able to test it. were you there when the earth started? don't tell me that you found out because of carbon dating because that was proven wrong years ago. if you really take the time to look at the evidence the earth is 6,000 years old.
AmmerBros 4 months ago
@AmmerBros Geologists knew the earth was million of years old before radiometric dating was invented. Carbon 14 is just one of many radiometric dating methods.
Evolution has been Observed and tested.
Were you there when Jesus rose from the dead?!?
Carbon dating has not been proven wrong, it is used all the time to date Egyptian artifacts to 6000 BC
Read a Geology book to find out how old the earth is. 4,545 million years old.
You think you can prove all of science wrong like Kent Hovind?
gregrutz 4 months ago
@TheFlyingSpaget another thing, when you say Universe, do you know what it means? its a Latin word meaning: Uni-single verse-spoken sentence. Guess what, we live in a single spoken sentence. "and God said let there be light."
AmmerBros 4 months ago
@AmmerBros ''Let there be Light! '' Light is a Boson in the Standard Model of the atom, the force carrier for the Electromagnetic Force. When did God make the other Intermediate Vector Bosons?
gregrutz 4 months ago
@gregrutz God is far above us. we will never be able to comprehend him with our finite minds. like I said to someone else before. your argument has to assume God in order to deny him. its like denying air. you have to breath it in to say it doesn't exist! and don't shift the burden of proof. Evolution needs to be proven because there is no solid evidence to support it. it's a dead theory and a tax funded, state protected Religion.
AmmerBros 4 months ago
@AmmerBros argument has to assume God in order to deny him.
I don't assume God, there is nothing to deny.
The burdun of proof is with the one making the claim.
''don't shift the burden of proof.'' ROFL
Evolution was proven 150 years ago and the proof just keeps getting better.
And scientists understand enough about light to know it does not need to be seperated from darkness
gregrutz 4 months ago
@gregrutz haeckels embryos were a fake he drew, no one has ever found a "missing link" that's why they're called that. they're missing. the geologic column was made up and that's where evolutionist get their dates. carbon dating doesn't work. petrified trees are found in layers of rocks in the vertical position connecting many of them, proving those layers dont represent millions of years. all of the "proof" points to a catastrophic flood.
AmmerBros 4 months ago
@AmmerBros You sound like a kent hovind video. full of crap.
1. Heackel fudged the drawing, the point still holds up
2. They found the transitional fossils.
3.the geologic column is everywhere, you can see it at the Grand Canyon.
4.Carbon 14 works well, so do the radiometric dating methods they use on fossils.
5.Tree get buried too, so what? They were buried quickly or they would have rotted. No one said all the layer take millions of years.
6. What flood? no evidence for one at all.
gregrutz 4 months ago
we are so small
3BALL4 6 months ago
Awesome thanks for making this video
TheInterpreterOfTime 7 months ago
And what would it all look like without a god? Why, exactly as it appears right now.
entwood 9 months ago
@entwood What would this all look like without random chance? Why, exactly as it appears now!
MurryFolt 8 months ago
Our God and Father is stunningly fabulous! How awesome he is. How can we not praise and glorify his holy name. Thank you Father in Jesus Christ name!
kaybiscus 11 months ago
thank you for this
igotJesus88 1 year ago