The Christian Faith; The Atheist's Faith - by freetaught

[MultiSimplify]

It seems to me that "faith" is, ordinarily, meant to highlight a distinctive way of holding belief i.e. an unverifiable private assertion (unverifiable by appeal to logic or public evidence). Your post seems to confuse common-use language by making such faith a property of all belief, thus, eliminating the distinction between a justified and an unjustified belief.

[Atheistblindchick]

It's sad when someone does not want to learn, to know. It's such an innate part of a human being when they are born, that it's sad that a person should lose it. (cont)

[Atheistblindchick]

As for faith, I think that this word is one of the most ugly words in our vocabulary. I would use trust as an atheist, not faith, since this, to me, is associated with a belief despite a lack of evidence. Trust to me is more a category of faith, if you will, based on evidence or repeated experience (ie I trust that the sun will come up, I trust you won't tell everyone something I told you in confidence).

[theqmogvlogs]

I am not sure about the distinction but I admit I have faith in many things: Faith that my kids will talk to me if they have a problem, faith that all the medical stuff I am going through will be at least partially resolved, faith that my partner loves me despite how we fought last night, faith this ice on my back will help, faith that my company is doing the "right" or ethical things it claims... I just came to this question: Is any of that faith or is it just hope? I don't really know.

[freetaught]

@theqmogvlogs Hey, S...Qmog. Long time no talk. You seem quite fortunate to be surrounded by such good things. Well done. Hope has many uses, I think, but I don't think my feelings of love, let's say, were ever dependent upon hope, though I did hope to experience it for as long as possible. Just ouf of curiosity, which part of my suggestion did you find to be most doubtful? By the way, how was the sound for you?

[theqmogvlogs]

@freetaught The suggestion we hold some forms of faith is not doubtful to me at all. The distinction you make however went over my head to say the least, it could be due to my current "can't think about/deal with too much" which I would not count among my "good things" but it is what it is. I would likely understand it more if I saw it in text. The sound was just fine by me though, I am not fond of "loud" anyway.

[TheOats]

The volume is WAY to low!

[freetaught]

@TheOats, I was worried about this. Thank you. I'll private the video later on and re-address this topic on another day.

[TheOats]

@freetaught No problem.