Kathy Martin seems like a really sweet person, but she's misinformed. She should not be insulted or called a "yahoo," but I also understand why Tom's frustrated that the quality of science education suffers.
and thier beliefs (as shown here) rather than present their own "facts" for subject for debate. ck out Maluina Lak of the Univeristy of Rennes in France study of Translucent Amber pics of insects "100 million yrs old"
but there is no change in the insects found there. futher more if an insect cant change in 100 million years how long does it take will you. thats a hell of alot of environmental change
as you can read it points out that the insects found in the amber belong to the modern order of insects, meaning modern insects descended from. Another example creationists like to mention is the thought to be extinct coelacanth, but what creationists fail to mention is it likes several amphibian like features today that are found in the fossils
Insects (or anything else) don't NEED to change if they "got it right" Cockroaches are a perfect example of evolution making a hardy and extremely annoying bug that doesn't need to change.
Oh my another good ol' "naturalist" resorting to name calling and labeling. The cheapest and lowest form of intellectual debate, who says creationist are ignorant when it is he who is ignorant because he categorizes everyone who doesn't believe in evolution theory as a creationist when this is not the case. There are MANY scientist(some intelligent disign supporters some not) who don't think evolution is an inteligent scientific standpoint to take.
lol. You have Read Origin of the Species right? YOu honestly don't understand how abiogenesis dove tails into the theory of evolution? Darwin wrote it did, this obviously shows how little you know. Please, unless you are going to put a little effort into I don't have time.
Look I'll save us both a lot of time. I know all your arguments backwards and forwards. I know the evolution theory probably better than you. I read Darwin, Dawkins, Gould, etc. You'll never even consider my point or have an original thought. Why bother. You are not interested in answers or understanding. What's the point?
"I know the evolution theory probably better than you"
Oh really? Is that why you made this absurd statement: "Evolution=World/mankind/life spontaneously creating itself out of nothing and for millions of years against all laws of science.. "
You may or may not have read it, but one thing is certain - you sure as hell don't understand it.
Your fundamental arguement here is you are comparing religious creationism/ID to evolutionary science. Like it or not, evolution is a science, and science and religion are not the same thing.
One word of advice, next time you "read" an article on evolution, creationist/ID websites such as discovery institute, Christian answers, and answers in genesis don't count as credible sources.
stvnhthr you seem to think very highly of your own intellect. It seems to me that you think just because you've read some well known evolution published resources that it some how makes you immensely qualified in the subject of scientific origins...why?
p.s. Remember that evolution is just a theory not fact, therefor putting you on the same plain as any other theory trying to explain our orgins, so get off you high horse. Begin objectively looking at the theory of evolution, creation, intelligent disign, catastrophicism, etc and go where SCIENCE leads not evolutionary biased leads.
So..this video shows the ignorance of evolutionists, since they clearly aren't attacking Intelligent Design, but going after Creationists. I thought the Dodo video was supposed to be a counter ID video; then why does it make evolutionists look so ill informed?
The genesis account uses poetic devices to describe the Genesis account. Could be 7 days or 7 million, we'll never know for sure. Still you are so off track I thought you wanted to discuss science not Creationism.
WHat you engage in is selective ignorance. You believe in parts of the bible literally and ignore the parts that makes little sense. If you want to blatantly say Genesis is a metaphor, then you should say the entire bible is a metaphor. Everything from the gospels to revelations are metaphors, and not literal accounts of what happened/will happen.
Evolution=World/mankind/life spontaneously creating itself out of nothing and for millions of years against all laws of science reorganized itself into a higher order.
Impossible. Ages of all the descendents are unknown. This is a trick question that only the most unread of evolutionists use. Again do a little research so you stop embarrassing yourself.
Oh no? The bible claims the descendents lived to be hundreds of years old. Don't forget that the bible also says the ORDER of creation...including whales being created before birds.
hey atheist, why not interview me and not that old woman.
Pempengc00gle 2 years ago
ill interview you
FusilliJerry89 2 years ago
then interview me...
Pempengc00gle 2 years ago
Atheistic evolutionist are very quick to call other idiots who do not accept their position!!
markpianoman 2 years ago
"Not enough transitional stages".
LOOOOOL.
ha. Good job America.
TehMuffni 3 years ago
Hah! If I had a dime everytime an Atheist's main argument is, "You're stupid!"
Insulting peoples intelligence appears to be their most used argument.
virindi73 3 years ago
Kathy Martin seems like a really sweet person, but she's misinformed. She should not be insulted or called a "yahoo," but I also understand why Tom's frustrated that the quality of science education suffers.
ShellyD999 3 years ago
He's not directly calling her a "yahoo".
leydensjar 3 years ago
Yeah, that's true. I'm just saying I don't think personal attacks are helpful. Understandable, maybe, but not helpful.
ShellyD999 3 years ago
i have debated many evolutionist and athist.
and what i have found that they attack people
and thier beliefs (as shown here) rather than present their own "facts" for subject for debate. ck out Maluina Lak of the Univeristy of Rennes in France study of Translucent Amber pics of insects "100 million yrs old"
but there is no change in the insects found there. futher more if an insect cant change in 100 million years how long does it take will you. thats a hell of alot of environmental change
lizaleon 3 years ago
kendall-bioresearch(.)co(.)uk/fossil(.)htm
as you can read it points out that the insects found in the amber belong to the modern order of insects, meaning modern insects descended from. Another example creationists like to mention is the thought to be extinct coelacanth, but what creationists fail to mention is it likes several amphibian like features today that are found in the fossils
ReligiouslyAtheist 3 years ago
Insects (or anything else) don't NEED to change if they "got it right" Cockroaches are a perfect example of evolution making a hardy and extremely annoying bug that doesn't need to change.
malcolmeat 3 years ago
Man created god 2000 years ago while on LSD
macomoto 3 years ago
That's a generalization. I've seen just about everybody attack every other belief system there ever was.
TehMuffni 3 years ago
Most women and especialy older women are creationists in the USA.Most blacks are creationists .About 70% of republicans are also.
flyingscience 4 years ago
Oh my another good ol' "naturalist" resorting to name calling and labeling. The cheapest and lowest form of intellectual debate, who says creationist are ignorant when it is he who is ignorant because he categorizes everyone who doesn't believe in evolution theory as a creationist when this is not the case. There are MANY scientist(some intelligent disign supporters some not) who don't think evolution is an inteligent scientific standpoint to take.
Markennz 4 years ago
I've seen a lungfish crawl out of the water.
macman13 4 years ago
lol. You have Read Origin of the Species right? YOu honestly don't understand how abiogenesis dove tails into the theory of evolution? Darwin wrote it did, this obviously shows how little you know. Please, unless you are going to put a little effort into I don't have time.
stvnhthr 4 years ago
"abiogenesis dove tails into the theory of evolution"
Apparently you've never read the Origins of Species.
Evolution deals with organisms that already exists.
Darwin DID write about transitional life forms, which we have found.
Please don't make up facts to support your crumbling arguement.
Intranetusa 4 years ago
Look I'll save us both a lot of time. I know all your arguments backwards and forwards. I know the evolution theory probably better than you. I read Darwin, Dawkins, Gould, etc. You'll never even consider my point or have an original thought. Why bother. You are not interested in answers or understanding. What's the point?
stvnhthr 4 years ago
"I know the evolution theory probably better than you"
Oh really? Is that why you made this absurd statement: "Evolution=World/mankind/life spontaneously creating itself out of nothing and for millions of years against all laws of science.. "
You may or may not have read it, but one thing is certain - you sure as hell don't understand it.
Intranetusa 4 years ago
Your fundamental arguement here is you are comparing religious creationism/ID to evolutionary science. Like it or not, evolution is a science, and science and religion are not the same thing.
One word of advice, next time you "read" an article on evolution, creationist/ID websites such as discovery institute, Christian answers, and answers in genesis don't count as credible sources.
Intranetusa 4 years ago
stvnhthr you seem to think very highly of your own intellect. It seems to me that you think just because you've read some well known evolution published resources that it some how makes you immensely qualified in the subject of scientific origins...why?
Markennz 4 years ago
p.s. Remember that evolution is just a theory not fact, therefor putting you on the same plain as any other theory trying to explain our orgins, so get off you high horse. Begin objectively looking at the theory of evolution, creation, intelligent disign, catastrophicism, etc and go where SCIENCE leads not evolutionary biased leads.
Markennz 4 years ago
Hahaha, intelligent design is a scientific theory! Show me how it is testable, reproducible and falsifiable!
lbenitez7 3 years ago 4
Evidence of God's designing is ALL AROUND us.... just look at your hand....or your eye....etc.
You should read Dr. Norm Geisler's and Frank Turek's book entitled "I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist."
Billions of years of mutations could never even produce an ameobe...much less a human eye or hand.
markpianoman 2 years ago
So..this video shows the ignorance of evolutionists, since they clearly aren't attacking Intelligent Design, but going after Creationists. I thought the Dodo video was supposed to be a counter ID video; then why does it make evolutionists look so ill informed?
stvnhthr 5 years ago
Intelligent IS creation! The intelligent designer is the god of the bible!
malcolmeat 5 years ago
So the world was created in 7 days 6000 year ago?
That's what the bible says.
Intranetusa 4 years ago
odd, could you please point to the verse with the 6000 year fact? Or are you just repeating the ignorance of others?
stvnhthr 4 years ago
Are you telling me the bible doesn't say the world was created in 7 days? It's in genesis.
Go reread your bible/koran or whatever your fundie preacher uses.
Intranetusa 4 years ago
The genesis account uses poetic devices to describe the Genesis account. Could be 7 days or 7 million, we'll never know for sure. Still you are so off track I thought you wanted to discuss science not Creationism.
stvnhthr 4 years ago
"we'll never know for sure."
WHat you engage in is selective ignorance. You believe in parts of the bible literally and ignore the parts that makes little sense. If you want to blatantly say Genesis is a metaphor, then you should say the entire bible is a metaphor. Everything from the gospels to revelations are metaphors, and not literal accounts of what happened/will happen.
Intranetusa 4 years ago
> I thought you wanted to discuss science
Okay, let's talk science...
Well...
There's not much to discuss, is there?
garouHH 4 years ago
Maybe if you typed it in all CAPS your ignorance would come across more forcefully.
stvnhthr 4 years ago
Creationism = World/mankind/life directly created by a higher power
Intelligent Design = World/mankind/life directly created/designed by a higher power
Intranetusa 4 years ago
okay,we'll play your game...
Evolution=World/mankind/life spontaneously creating itself out of nothing and for millions of years against all laws of science reorganized itself into a higher order.
stvnhthr 4 years ago
"okay,we'll play your game...
Evolution=World/mankind/life spontaneously creating itself out of nothing..."
No, that's called "abiogenesis." That's another branch of biology. And "laws of science" do not contradict evolution.
Well, this obviously shows you know little about science.
Intranetusa 4 years ago
" with the 6000 year fact"
Add up the descendents of Adam and Eve.
Intranetusa 4 years ago
Impossible. Ages of all the descendents are unknown. This is a trick question that only the most unread of evolutionists use. Again do a little research so you stop embarrassing yourself.
stvnhthr 4 years ago
Oh no? The bible claims the descendents lived to be hundreds of years old. Don't forget that the bible also says the ORDER of creation...including whales being created before birds.
Please reread your bible.
Intranetusa 4 years ago