Great second question - but it falls down in the fact that after the answer is given, be it yes or no, you wipe the persons memory so they carry on as before. It's a moral question, but as the child grew up, before they died did they do good/great things? Bill Gates if off to Hell but is a great philanthropist!
As for questioning why God would chose to allow billions to do this the answer could be that it's better to have 1 in 100 or 1000 souls reach heaven than have no one there, 'freewill'?!
Welcome back, sir. Interesting video. Sometimes we accept an answer because it works at the time. (Or it doesn't, which could prove fatal, or to force you to find a new one.) Dissatisfaction seems to come from doubt. Loved the last question. I still remember the rage I supressed at coming to that realization. The words would be similar to, "I'm crap, you made me that way, and you blame me! Couldn't you just skip making me?". Then, I'd shut my mind off to escape the rage. Alter focus.
Everyone has children knowing there is a good chance that the child will suffer some form of rape, persecution or despair... then die a miserable death, maybe suicide.
Is everyone who has children amoral?
also, human free will has yet to be
determined or understood.
Perhaps every action, thought is predestined to happen. Ur free only in theory. At best, ur free to run around a tiny little box in ur head as u watch what happens 2 u.
All forms of certainty is masturbatory consolation.
"Everyone has children knowing there is a good chance that the child will suffer some form of rape, persecution or despair... then die a miserable death, maybe suicide.
Is everyone who has children amoral?"
No. Because parents don't have children thinking that they will suffer from rape, misery, or suicide. Parents have children expecting that they will not suffer.
In addition. Parents who CAN anticipate the possibility that their child will suffer (such as women suffering from Huntington's or women who know they are positive for the BRCA1 Cancer gene) go through great pain and careful consideration before having children.
We can't predict the future. But an omnipotent God should be able to. This is why my argument stands: you are more moral than the God of the Bible.
@DrixDZanth Realizing this is an old video, I still want to reply. Christians want for a good god, but in the Hindu, there is a god who is the Destroyer. This Destroyer's purpose is to cause hate, devastation, pain, etc. So if Shiva (the destroyer) is in power, then all destruction, confusion, lack of belief, atheism, IS the will of god.
ronaldec7, the way the bible is supposed to be perceived is as the word of "God" sent to the Prophets and written down by them for the edification and education of others by church leaders. Look at how it is *used*. The church leaders use it to put words into the mouth of "God" for their own purposes. This becomes even more obvious when you study the history *of* the bible. It's similar to the way "History is written by the winners of the wars, not the losers."
Great analogy with the baby in a TV. It really personalizes the argument. No would be the only acceptable answer, unless you really couldn't know the future.
The sad thing is they have convinced themselves that god's ways are unfathomable. They have closed the door and locked the key from the outside. It would need a sledgehammer to get them out.
It's a defense mechanism. They've decided that, just in case someone comes up with a question they can't answer, they can reply with an impossibility of knowledge so they're preconceived notions aren't challenged.
I have often ask the question. Why does God only choose certain people for heaven. Why America, why not the native Americans. What about anyone who lived before Christ. Or what about anyone who lived after without a chance of knowledge about him. It seems the Christian faith or any faith for that matter is "pigioned holed" to a certain location, time and people, but preaches otherwise. Having said that I most confess I am not an atheist, perhaps a deist, but the Bible can't be the word of God.
"Certainty is absurd..." really gets to the heart of the matter.
I suspect that is why I see religion as so absurd.
believers seem to be so certain in their beliefs.
I don't anyone can be that certain about anything.
They mistake their "certain" feelings of a specific reality for certainty of that reality.
gjsterp 1 year ago
"Doubt is not an agreeable condition, but certainty is an absurd one."
oober349 2 years ago
Great second question - but it falls down in the fact that after the answer is given, be it yes or no, you wipe the persons memory so they carry on as before. It's a moral question, but as the child grew up, before they died did they do good/great things? Bill Gates if off to Hell but is a great philanthropist!
As for questioning why God would chose to allow billions to do this the answer could be that it's better to have 1 in 100 or 1000 souls reach heaven than have no one there, 'freewill'?!
vidiviciveni 2 years ago
And its nice to know I'm not the only atheist that meditates. Oh those silly Christians, they think they have a monopoly on inner peace. ahahahahhah
I've found the same feeling can be achieved by playing guitar, dancing, or even playing the last level on Mario 64.
RobotzAreAwesome 2 years ago
Allright, just like Emenim, Drix is back!
RobotzAreAwesome 2 years ago
Good to see you posting again.
TheKingOfFresno 2 years ago
Welcome back, sir. Interesting video. Sometimes we accept an answer because it works at the time. (Or it doesn't, which could prove fatal, or to force you to find a new one.) Dissatisfaction seems to come from doubt. Loved the last question. I still remember the rage I supressed at coming to that realization. The words would be similar to, "I'm crap, you made me that way, and you blame me! Couldn't you just skip making me?". Then, I'd shut my mind off to escape the rage. Alter focus.
RichardRoy2 2 years ago
good to have you back!
LasraelLarson 2 years ago
Ah ha!!! :))) The man is back...I really enjoy your videos drix.
friendlydiplomat 2 years ago
Everyone has children knowing there is a good chance that the child will suffer some form of rape, persecution or despair... then die a miserable death, maybe suicide.
Is everyone who has children amoral?
also, human free will has yet to be
determined or understood.
Perhaps every action, thought is predestined to happen. Ur free only in theory. At best, ur free to run around a tiny little box in ur head as u watch what happens 2 u.
All forms of certainty is masturbatory consolation.
tbgx1 2 years ago
"Everyone has children knowing there is a good chance that the child will suffer some form of rape, persecution or despair... then die a miserable death, maybe suicide.
Is everyone who has children amoral?"
No. Because parents don't have children thinking that they will suffer from rape, misery, or suicide. Parents have children expecting that they will not suffer.
DrixDZanth 2 years ago
In addition. Parents who CAN anticipate the possibility that their child will suffer (such as women suffering from Huntington's or women who know they are positive for the BRCA1 Cancer gene) go through great pain and careful consideration before having children.
We can't predict the future. But an omnipotent God should be able to. This is why my argument stands: you are more moral than the God of the Bible.
DrixDZanth 2 years ago
@DrixDZanth Realizing this is an old video, I still want to reply. Christians want for a good god, but in the Hindu, there is a god who is the Destroyer. This Destroyer's purpose is to cause hate, devastation, pain, etc. So if Shiva (the destroyer) is in power, then all destruction, confusion, lack of belief, atheism, IS the will of god.
LilaDeGr8 1 month ago
Some very good points, Drix. Once again, you point out what many of us have been saying: We are more moral than the "god" believers worship.
rationalmuscle 2 years ago
Wow, just wow!
Ow, btw... welcome back Drix, missed you alot, the Friday Fallacies and Badasses in Science. Really fun
Strawedify 2 years ago
ronaldec7, the way the bible is supposed to be perceived is as the word of "God" sent to the Prophets and written down by them for the edification and education of others by church leaders. Look at how it is *used*. The church leaders use it to put words into the mouth of "God" for their own purposes. This becomes even more obvious when you study the history *of* the bible. It's similar to the way "History is written by the winners of the wars, not the losers."
RyuDarragh 2 years ago
Great analogy with the baby in a TV. It really personalizes the argument. No would be the only acceptable answer, unless you really couldn't know the future.
loveisallneed 2 years ago
great to have you back. looking forward to some new videos.
xtcx2e 2 years ago
Thanks
DrixDZanth 2 years ago
Great questions... fantastic video, as always.
vickmackey24 2 years ago
thanks :)
DrixDZanth 2 years ago
The sad thing is they have convinced themselves that god's ways are unfathomable. They have closed the door and locked the key from the outside. It would need a sledgehammer to get them out.
Shalek 2 years ago
locked it'
Shalek 2 years ago
It's a defense mechanism. They've decided that, just in case someone comes up with a question they can't answer, they can reply with an impossibility of knowledge so they're preconceived notions aren't challenged.
BlodhArget 2 years ago
Hey, the doctor is back!
BohemianBlasphemy 2 years ago
It is great to see you back.
Hope all is going well with your studies.
bobster451 2 years ago
I have often ask the question. Why does God only choose certain people for heaven. Why America, why not the native Americans. What about anyone who lived before Christ. Or what about anyone who lived after without a chance of knowledge about him. It seems the Christian faith or any faith for that matter is "pigioned holed" to a certain location, time and people, but preaches otherwise. Having said that I most confess I am not an atheist, perhaps a deist, but the Bible can't be the word of God.
ronaldec7 2 years ago
You should thank ProfMTH who gave you a shoutout for reaching 1000 subs.
Akatam0t0ma 2 years ago
Yup, I'm going to make a video on this subject.
DrixDZanth 2 years ago
Yay, welcome back! :-D
Akatam0t0ma 2 years ago
Welcome back.
Alpha1Bravo1Charlie1 2 years ago
Yo, welcome back!
Acoustics7 2 years ago