That static sound is a wierd one. I'd bet that there is something wrong with the pickups or electronics, or shielding. I really doubt that the static has anything to do with the neck its self. Wood, Binding and finish are all non-conductors. As for all the photos of broken headstocks you showed. I bet every on of them were a result of impact too. Woods don't usually just break without a little help. And your G string sustained fine both ways in this vid.
Gibson has ALWAYS been a machine made instrument as far as their classic models go. I personally did repairs on a J200 flag ship acoustic that was par with many Chinese cheap crap guitars. The headstock laminate and binding were coming off, among other major issues with fit and finish. The guitar cost $4800 and was far worse than a $400 guitar. The neck needed resetting too, Gibson did nothing. This is their SOP. Plek'd? Try plucked! I buy Jap copies now. Screw Juzeckiwiz or what ever his name.
so many dumb comments...here let me help. 1.dont buy gibson :) they are crap now 2. dont buy from guitar center(think about how many people have played that guitar that day?... buy from a small town guitar shop where less people have played it. or buy it online music 123 gave me no probs with my 2k guitar :)
Adjust the truss rod (that's gotta be partly why), the action, and put new strings on, perhaps that'd fix your problem, as far as your bill goes, they shouldn't have to pay for your stupidity, if I was spending that on a guitar i'd be eyeballing that bill, and I don't give a damn if you played this model before, your first rule to buying a guitar is to play the EXACT guitar you will be receiving, as for the headstock breaking, just be careful with the mother fucker and you should have no worries
@BIGBABYZIP I have a 1977 Les Paul I love. The binding is not the best fit or finish, but 3 piece neck+2 on the HS,. 3 piece top with a single slab of wood for the bridge and TP studs just makes sense. The ski jump volute on the neck helped with the 50s-60s headstock breakage/cracking problems. The neck joint is my only complaint. Mine was the Kahler NAMM demo guitar, but I also have had many other LPs. I keep this one as it was an X-Mas present. I have the card from "Kahlers" and a PP Kahler.
@BIGBABYZIP The deluxes with the minibuckers are cool as can be. I am seeking a MIJ Elitist Sheraton I. I have the MIJ ES 335 and like it a lot. I have had the MIJ Elitist Sheraton and it was a screamer when used with some preamp gain. I put 1980 Shaws in the Es 335 CTS pots and real vintage POI caps. It is almost as sweet as my mom's 335, and a bit less than her 330 (Casino with Gibson on the headstock) both 1960 model year as well as her H Bird custom 1960 slim neck. She knew Johnny Smith.
He probably bought the guitar without trying it because he never anticipated that a Gibson could be defective. They're supposedly the holy grail of guitars, right? Imagine my surprise when I buy a $2000 LP only to find (among other things) that the locking tuners jam every time I change strings. Gibson's quality control is total shit nowadays. If only the guitar magazines who are supposed to be our watchdogs would call them out for that fact, rather than continuing to feed the hype machine.
Ed Roman is a fucking tool, and should his massive dead greyed imfeebled and balding severed head roll over and crush this asshole, his house, and the shitty electric ground in it that's causing this non-issue I would call that as much of a curiosity as anyone leaving Guitar Center without checking first the receipt, or letting any GC fuckwad stamp the receipt.
In CA by the way, you got 30 days to return ANYTHING. GC has been successfully sued many many times over this cuz it's state law.
Wait - You bought it on a CREDIT CARD, signed for it, and didn't notice the price difference? You were "led to believe" the case was included? You were not "made aware" it was a "no return, no exchange" item? Total, TOTAL bullshit. I'm no fan of GC, but you have nothing more than "buyer's remorse." As far as the neck design, seems like Gibsons from the '30, '40's and up have held up just fine, thank you, if they haven't BEEN DROPPED. You're a mook, period.
This guys are kind of missing the point. U dont buy a Les Paul becouse of scientific facts of physics, u buy it for is intrinsic iconic and esthetic value. Like an old car, u buy it becouse u have passion for it. Also I never heard nobody sounding better becouse he (or she), owns a more "perfect then a gibbo" guitar, as I never heard nobody sounding better becouse that person uses a Gibson. Guitars are not used in labs, they are pretty basic stuff. For me Is the player that makes the difference
Seems like all of these "issues" should've been observed right off the bat...begs the question - why'd you buy the thing in the first place? Such a "bad design"...must be why no one has used Les Paul's. Besides the issues are so minor. the neck fret noise is a ground issue, most likely at the bridge. You can hear there is a ground issue when he takes his hands off the strings. "Dead" G string...um, huh? Maybe nome nut work is in order. All of which you could have made a point of BEFORE buying it
this is why ed roman is now producing guitars in a closet some were out west.. hes a soap opera complainer, a rip off artist and in general a bad business person. His guitars are not well made and when flaws are pointed out to him because your paying in excess of 3 grand for his guitar your met with the old "you dont know what your talking about". And this dweeb is one of eds workers. have a great life ed i told you that you were gonna be out of business soon and it happened. karmas a bitch
Call him and he WILL tell you that your guitar is a piece of shit and that all the guitar brands suck except for his rip off brands. His wannabe Ibanez are equal or less than the Ibanez GIO. He makes rip offs of IBANEZ, PRS, B.C. Rich And wayyyyy more. APPROVE THIS COMMENT
I agree that is what I hear all over the internet, wish we can see solid proof of al these so we can justify all that crap going on in internet and confront him.
also long as headstock isn't same you can copy guitars' body that is known rule to luthiers.
We need to prove that he is doing stupid shit and hope we can.
now as for gibson, its not just fall and break. it can wear and tear easily then others that is all..
custom guitars are better then factory built guitars, because you can choose what you want. but he do have good luthier but what he does is stupid indeed because people did say he did scam.. scamming is dumb to me. That is why i try to use better custom shops then something that is unknown like Ed Roman's
re: my post below. Being a beginning guitarist, it took me a little while to figure out that was totally unacceptable. I had to sell the guitar salvage to some guy for 500 bucks (can't believe someone bought it).
I wouldn't be against buying a gibson again, but it would be by going through a bunch of old used ones on a rack.
There are too many makers who make better guitars for less. Does ed still sell Dean USA stuff? I wonder how that is compared to 8 years ago when I got my usa hardtail.
Way back when I was a college student, I sold two saxes to come up with the cash for a '61 reissue SG. It had been filed almost to death at the lower frets to try to cover up poor workmanship - the surface of the neck was half of a figure 8 (S shaped). It was brand new, at an authorized dealer.
Neck was dead muffled in some spots, despite the filing they did at the factory.
Gibson sucks, so does guitar center. Dumb down all the buyers and make them pay tons for mediocre production stuff.
yeah but you know that for all the reapir shops.. the guitar that had breakage of neck were mostly SGs and Les Pauls.. I am not too sure if its Gibson but I saw lots of LP and SGs in repair shop with broken necks or head stocks that is.
@Fakestar0x Yeah, I own a Les Paul and have never had a problem with it. Someone I know who played for years professionally and now teaches guitar has played Gibson guitars (most of them Les Pauls) for a long time and never had this sort of problem.
That said, I agree that the SG is not a good guitar. I liked the neck on one of them I played, but the body was awful. Not well balanced, didn't stay in tune, generally felt like a LP cut in half.
@Fakestar0x Correction. The guy mentioned he had seen it, but only when people treated their instruments like crap. (i.e. dropped them) Frankly, I have no intent on dropping my guitar on it's head stock any time soon, so I don't think i'll have that issue.
I am not much of Les Paul fan myself but it is good guitar and all but those things you talk of can happen to les pauls as well... it happens to all guitar brands... because accidents happen when they are shipped or being built in factory...(I worked at factory and I know people who work in factories are humans and even machines can have problems from time to time and accidents happen once in a while.)
@Fakestar0x Exactly. If you cause alot of stress on any guitar, it will break at the neck. It's not like it magically breaks at some point, all guitars have a weak spot there. You need to keep up the maintenence on your instrument to keep in in "fighting shape" and it rings true for all guitars.
Lots of guitars do have weak spot but far as design for Gibson necks, I am confident that Gibson Les Paul and Sg's weak spots are the headstock... because they are more angled then any other guitar's headstocks.
I am not saying it was your friend who sucked at maintenance but if it was in guitar center for example and if they happend to drop the guitar it's the guitar center empolyee who sucked at it and maybe it can be factory or when it was shipped who knows.
@Fakestar0x I'm not going to say they are not more angled, that's definatly true. But if you drop any guitar on the headstock, it won't be good for it no matter who the manufacturer is.
ofcorse that any guitar being dropped is bad I am just saying durability of headstock is weaker for guitars with lots of angle then none at all.
But the reason why Les paul and SG is one of the guitar with breakage @ headstock area is due to idiots who hit their guitar's headstocks imo, it's really not guitar's fault at all.
@Fakestar0x Yeah, and that makes sense. The angle just makes it weaker. Even still, it seems strange that some people tell me that Gibson's ALWAYS break when really it only happens when you put more stress than should ever be put on a guitar headstock. Yeah, the angle may seem like a design flaw, but all you gotta do is take care of it. :)
Now for a stress issues, it can't always be a person's fault either and can be a factory flaw of Gibson also, I have never seen a guitar without factory flaw honestly...
However I can say another thing too, Gibson and Fender can be overrated due to how they were the first ones to do it... (there might have been ones that were before them but as far as we know they made the electric guitars popular back then).
people do drop it at factories and during derivery it isnt just manufacture's fault but can be factory w orker's or derivery guy's fault but we have no control over it!
Gibson doesn't suck but they sure are overpriced is what i can say
I don't want to spend just 1k+ more for LP that just have 3 degrees more angle then Epi's and have better pickups.. because u can always change pickups later.
if you are playing on stage Name of brand is good idea to have.
@Fakestar0x If they drop it then, it isn't my problem because then they won't try to sell it.
Gibson's may be overpriced new, but I have only bought one used instrument in my life. (And it was a bass, not a guitar.) My LP Studio (1996 before they fucked the design by chambering them) was a decent price, and works for what I play. (Rock and blues.)
Also, for the record, the only Epiphone I would ever want to play is the LP Custom.
I agree, but since we got off topic lets get on topic with this vid response, I can say it's that guy's fault because he didnt test out the guitar before he bought it... we all test out the guitar before we buy it orelse we wont know whats wrong with it.
I made similar mistakes with jackson and fender guitar which had flaws. he bought it, like ed roman says himself he has to live with it. it is stupid that he posts video that says things suck. he wont get business done.
@Fakestar0x I couldn't agree more. This guy should have plugged it in once, mistakes like these would have been really obvious right away. I guess I really can't hate on Guitar Center here, because a fool and his money were parted...
@FenrirLupus I have a hand-assembled PartsCaster with Sperzel lockers and it stays in tune and they are only 12:1. That's not the issue. Gibsons have wanky necks and lousy cut nuts and that causes more tuning issues than the tuners.
Anybody that buys a Gibson is a fucking moron including this guy. I don't feel sorry for him. He should have read the receipt before he left the store.
Frankly, if I had $3000 burning a hole in my pocket, I'd have a custom ax made by Ed or build a Warmoth.
@FenrirLupus Agiles blow the nuts off of any Gibson. Their workers are trained by real luthiers and not a single guitar leaves the factory without passing numerous quality control tests. Hell the fretwork alone is better than any Gibson ever put in a box for shipment.
@minpinful Gibson guitars are NOT 'the best'. The BEST, is a truly hand-built LUTHIER-built instrument, not some corporate mass-produced copy of a once great guitar. Gibsons are CNC machined and only ASSEMBLED by hand. Their bridges are made of Zinc alloy pot metal crap... instead of pure Aluminum like the originals. Quit being a brand worshiper! For the price of a Jimmy Page No. 2, you could buy TWO Jet Guitars which, in every way, shape and form, blow the doors off ANY Gibson.
well one thing.. gibson guitars hasn't been updated for it's design on les paul for almost 40 years now... it's just people love to play old stuff that good musicians use.. good musicians can sound good with crap guitar or good guitar so yeah.... guitar is just more of body design then anything... rest u can customize at shops..
guys he might have played the same model somewhere else and he saw it at a good price in guitar center and got real excited about it so he bought it. I mean who would predict that a Gibson would have this many issues. i'd be pissed as hell too if i bought a guitar and it was broke and i couldn't return it i'd be going ape shit to get my money back
@MrGuitarcovers10 your right on the money here! you never really know what a guitar, amp or whatever performs like untill you get it home & run it through your setup..99% of the time sales staff blame any odd/static noises on the lighting in the store (we've all heard this!!!) plus there's always some ass crankin an amp so you don't get to hear what your demo'ing properly....we put our trust in big name store's because they generaly offer a better service...this guys been stung!!
Thank's for post this,people should know these details before buy any Les Paul guitar..Les Paul's was alrite in 60's to 80's.. I bought a Jackson RR5 Pro series for $1,299 with neck thru body construction,very cheaper than a Les Paul guitar that comes with a set neck and most of them comes with old pickups and you have to pay more than $2,000 for a Les Paul
People purchase guitars ALL THE TIME without trying them out first. What about ALL INTERNET sales? Fact of the matter is, if I'm buying a second or third hand used guitar, or cheap no-name brand, sure I'm gonna try it all out. When you buy a GIBSON LES PAUL, you should never ever expect that somehow, because of the consumer's lack of prudence, you just might wind up with a guitar like this. LOL.
This instrument is a complete JOKE, DTPA claim in TX should be NO PROBLEM for your attorney.
@LouieDragna you seem to comment enough to make me believe you work for guitar center (or you are a huge fanboy) and are just trying to bash this poor mans claims and insinuate that this problem never happened.....pretty good defense strategy id say. My advice to you is to stay off the internet until you grow up.
That static sound is a wierd one. I'd bet that there is something wrong with the pickups or electronics, or shielding. I really doubt that the static has anything to do with the neck its self. Wood, Binding and finish are all non-conductors. As for all the photos of broken headstocks you showed. I bet every on of them were a result of impact too. Woods don't usually just break without a little help. And your G string sustained fine both ways in this vid.
bigvelvetdog 3 weeks ago
a good luthier could easly fix these issues for 200 bucks
xb5jb7 3 weeks ago
I want a dirty blonde to suck my dick and fuck me
xb5jb7 3 weeks ago
Easy fixes......bring it to a good guitar repair shop or a great luthier and stop bitching.
xb5jb7 3 weeks ago
Gibson has ALWAYS been a machine made instrument as far as their classic models go. I personally did repairs on a J200 flag ship acoustic that was par with many Chinese cheap crap guitars. The headstock laminate and binding were coming off, among other major issues with fit and finish. The guitar cost $4800 and was far worse than a $400 guitar. The neck needed resetting too, Gibson did nothing. This is their SOP. Plek'd? Try plucked! I buy Jap copies now. Screw Juzeckiwiz or what ever his name.
Satchmoeddie 1 month ago
guitar center sucks. put them out of business and buy elsewhere
g11rfe87 1 month ago
Such rip offs
gitaarspelerke 2 months ago
so many dumb comments...here let me help. 1.dont buy gibson :) they are crap now 2. dont buy from guitar center(think about how many people have played that guitar that day?... buy from a small town guitar shop where less people have played it. or buy it online music 123 gave me no probs with my 2k guitar :)
bobdethlock 2 months ago
Adjust the truss rod (that's gotta be partly why), the action, and put new strings on, perhaps that'd fix your problem, as far as your bill goes, they shouldn't have to pay for your stupidity, if I was spending that on a guitar i'd be eyeballing that bill, and I don't give a damn if you played this model before, your first rule to buying a guitar is to play the EXACT guitar you will be receiving, as for the headstock breaking, just be careful with the mother fucker and you should have no worries
assymcgee1 2 months ago
The 70's Gibsons are the best. 5 pc. neck, wider headstock and a volute. I have a 71 deluxe.
BIGBABYZIP 3 months ago
@BIGBABYZIP I have a 1977 Les Paul I love. The binding is not the best fit or finish, but 3 piece neck+2 on the HS,. 3 piece top with a single slab of wood for the bridge and TP studs just makes sense. The ski jump volute on the neck helped with the 50s-60s headstock breakage/cracking problems. The neck joint is my only complaint. Mine was the Kahler NAMM demo guitar, but I also have had many other LPs. I keep this one as it was an X-Mas present. I have the card from "Kahlers" and a PP Kahler.
Satchmoeddie 1 month ago
@BIGBABYZIP The deluxes with the minibuckers are cool as can be. I am seeking a MIJ Elitist Sheraton I. I have the MIJ ES 335 and like it a lot. I have had the MIJ Elitist Sheraton and it was a screamer when used with some preamp gain. I put 1980 Shaws in the Es 335 CTS pots and real vintage POI caps. It is almost as sweet as my mom's 335, and a bit less than her 330 (Casino with Gibson on the headstock) both 1960 model year as well as her H Bird custom 1960 slim neck. She knew Johnny Smith.
Satchmoeddie 1 month ago
He probably bought the guitar without trying it because he never anticipated that a Gibson could be defective. They're supposedly the holy grail of guitars, right? Imagine my surprise when I buy a $2000 LP only to find (among other things) that the locking tuners jam every time I change strings. Gibson's quality control is total shit nowadays. If only the guitar magazines who are supposed to be our watchdogs would call them out for that fact, rather than continuing to feed the hype machine.
psyoptica 3 months ago
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ED you are a tool.. and this reject from 1960 is a major tool also.. both of you please go back to giving cheap blow jobs in dark alleys ...
espltdguitarlover 3 months ago
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espltdguitarlover 3 months ago
Ed Roman is a fucking tool, and should his massive dead greyed imfeebled and balding severed head roll over and crush this asshole, his house, and the shitty electric ground in it that's causing this non-issue I would call that as much of a curiosity as anyone leaving Guitar Center without checking first the receipt, or letting any GC fuckwad stamp the receipt.
In CA by the way, you got 30 days to return ANYTHING. GC has been successfully sued many many times over this cuz it's state law.
PoofDuddy 4 months ago
Why is Ed Roman buying Gibsons if his guitars are the best?
aaronbeltrancabron79 5 months ago
Ed Roman is a con artist.
ahub2010 5 months ago
Wait - You bought it on a CREDIT CARD, signed for it, and didn't notice the price difference? You were "led to believe" the case was included? You were not "made aware" it was a "no return, no exchange" item? Total, TOTAL bullshit. I'm no fan of GC, but you have nothing more than "buyer's remorse." As far as the neck design, seems like Gibsons from the '30, '40's and up have held up just fine, thank you, if they haven't BEEN DROPPED. You're a mook, period.
GeoJ 5 months ago
ground it
adding mass to the headstock doesn't hurt it at all
OliOsbourne 6 months ago
This guys are kind of missing the point. U dont buy a Les Paul becouse of scientific facts of physics, u buy it for is intrinsic iconic and esthetic value. Like an old car, u buy it becouse u have passion for it. Also I never heard nobody sounding better becouse he (or she), owns a more "perfect then a gibbo" guitar, as I never heard nobody sounding better becouse that person uses a Gibson. Guitars are not used in labs, they are pretty basic stuff. For me Is the player that makes the difference
SoundWavesSurfer 6 months ago
This is why you play a guitar BEFORE you buy it.
feo130 7 months ago 3
could someone please explain the G string situation? Whats the deal with the mass and the back of the truss rod portion?
no pun intended.
ShapeShiftTheWorld 7 months ago
Wow you and Ed Roman are pathetic, i hope GC and gibsons lawyers crush you.
TorbjornRJ 8 months ago
Robert ,you sir, are an idiot.
TheFuckingEnd 8 months ago 2
Seems like all of these "issues" should've been observed right off the bat...begs the question - why'd you buy the thing in the first place? Such a "bad design"...must be why no one has used Les Paul's. Besides the issues are so minor. the neck fret noise is a ground issue, most likely at the bridge. You can hear there is a ground issue when he takes his hands off the strings. "Dead" G string...um, huh? Maybe nome nut work is in order. All of which you could have made a point of BEFORE buying it
barthur08 8 months ago
Yeah say all you want about Ed Roman but this has nothing to do with his crappy guitars.
This is just (another) typical Guitar Center rip-off.
And the problem with his Gibson is easily solved. I had the same shit on my Peavey Vandenberg which has a totally different neck.
I sorted it out by changing the nut. It has nothing to do with the wood or the angle of the neck.
And that scratching noise, just take some light sandpaper and sand the binding, problem solved!
MrDunkJunk 9 months ago
this is why ed roman is now producing guitars in a closet some were out west.. hes a soap opera complainer, a rip off artist and in general a bad business person. His guitars are not well made and when flaws are pointed out to him because your paying in excess of 3 grand for his guitar your met with the old "you dont know what your talking about". And this dweeb is one of eds workers. have a great life ed i told you that you were gonna be out of business soon and it happened. karmas a bitch
espltdguitarlover 9 months ago
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kesx 8 months ago
Ed roman Are you still selling the musicman rip offs
Mrsfatblackchick 1 year ago
@Mrsfatblackchick They're called replicas.
thommytaranto 11 months ago
Call him and he WILL tell you that your guitar is a piece of shit and that all the guitar brands suck except for his rip off brands. His wannabe Ibanez are equal or less than the Ibanez GIO. He makes rip offs of IBANEZ, PRS, B.C. Rich And wayyyyy more. APPROVE THIS COMMENT
MRtruthful777 1 year ago 2
@MRtruthful777
I agree that is what I hear all over the internet, wish we can see solid proof of al these so we can justify all that crap going on in internet and confront him.
also long as headstock isn't same you can copy guitars' body that is known rule to luthiers.
We need to prove that he is doing stupid shit and hope we can.
now as for gibson, its not just fall and break. it can wear and tear easily then others that is all..
I prefer PRS though Gibson is overrated.
Fakestar0x 1 year ago
@MRtruthful777
custom guitars are better then factory built guitars, because you can choose what you want. but he do have good luthier but what he does is stupid indeed because people did say he did scam.. scamming is dumb to me. That is why i try to use better custom shops then something that is unknown like Ed Roman's
Fakestar0x 1 year ago
ED ROMAN STILL SUCKS!!!!
MRtruthful777 1 year ago
re: my post below. Being a beginning guitarist, it took me a little while to figure out that was totally unacceptable. I had to sell the guitar salvage to some guy for 500 bucks (can't believe someone bought it).
I wouldn't be against buying a gibson again, but it would be by going through a bunch of old used ones on a rack.
There are too many makers who make better guitars for less. Does ed still sell Dean USA stuff? I wonder how that is compared to 8 years ago when I got my usa hardtail.
daw162 1 year ago
Way back when I was a college student, I sold two saxes to come up with the cash for a '61 reissue SG. It had been filed almost to death at the lower frets to try to cover up poor workmanship - the surface of the neck was half of a figure 8 (S shaped). It was brand new, at an authorized dealer.
Neck was dead muffled in some spots, despite the filing they did at the factory.
Gibson sucks, so does guitar center. Dumb down all the buyers and make them pay tons for mediocre production stuff.
daw162 1 year ago
@FenrirLupus
because people either drop their guitars, keep old strings, and just people suck at maintenance.
Bridges to wear and tear.
Fakestar0x 1 year ago
@rocknrollguru23
yeah but you know that for all the reapir shops.. the guitar that had breakage of neck were mostly SGs and Les Pauls.. I am not too sure if its Gibson but I saw lots of LP and SGs in repair shop with broken necks or head stocks that is.
Fakestar0x 1 year ago
@Fakestar0x Yeah, I own a Les Paul and have never had a problem with it. Someone I know who played for years professionally and now teaches guitar has played Gibson guitars (most of them Les Pauls) for a long time and never had this sort of problem.
That said, I agree that the SG is not a good guitar. I liked the neck on one of them I played, but the body was awful. Not well balanced, didn't stay in tune, generally felt like a LP cut in half.
rocknrollguru23 1 year ago
@Fakestar0x Correction. The guy mentioned he had seen it, but only when people treated their instruments like crap. (i.e. dropped them) Frankly, I have no intent on dropping my guitar on it's head stock any time soon, so I don't think i'll have that issue.
rocknrollguru23 1 year ago
@rocknrollguru23
I am not much of Les Paul fan myself but it is good guitar and all but those things you talk of can happen to les pauls as well... it happens to all guitar brands... because accidents happen when they are shipped or being built in factory...(I worked at factory and I know people who work in factories are humans and even machines can have problems from time to time and accidents happen once in a while.)
Fakestar0x 1 year ago
@Fakestar0x Exactly. If you cause alot of stress on any guitar, it will break at the neck. It's not like it magically breaks at some point, all guitars have a weak spot there. You need to keep up the maintenence on your instrument to keep in in "fighting shape" and it rings true for all guitars.
rocknrollguru23 1 year ago
@rocknrollguru23
Lots of guitars do have weak spot but far as design for Gibson necks, I am confident that Gibson Les Paul and Sg's weak spots are the headstock... because they are more angled then any other guitar's headstocks.
@FenrirLupus
I am not saying it was your friend who sucked at maintenance but if it was in guitar center for example and if they happend to drop the guitar it's the guitar center empolyee who sucked at it and maybe it can be factory or when it was shipped who knows.
Fakestar0x 1 year ago
@Fakestar0x I'm not going to say they are not more angled, that's definatly true. But if you drop any guitar on the headstock, it won't be good for it no matter who the manufacturer is.
rocknrollguru23 1 year ago
@rocknrollguru23
ofcorse that any guitar being dropped is bad I am just saying durability of headstock is weaker for guitars with lots of angle then none at all.
But the reason why Les paul and SG is one of the guitar with breakage @ headstock area is due to idiots who hit their guitar's headstocks imo, it's really not guitar's fault at all.
Fakestar0x 1 year ago
@Fakestar0x Yeah, and that makes sense. The angle just makes it weaker. Even still, it seems strange that some people tell me that Gibson's ALWAYS break when really it only happens when you put more stress than should ever be put on a guitar headstock. Yeah, the angle may seem like a design flaw, but all you gotta do is take care of it. :)
rocknrollguru23 1 year ago
@rocknrollguru23
Now for a stress issues, it can't always be a person's fault either and can be a factory flaw of Gibson also, I have never seen a guitar without factory flaw honestly...
However I can say another thing too, Gibson and Fender can be overrated due to how they were the first ones to do it... (there might have been ones that were before them but as far as we know they made the electric guitars popular back then).
Fakestar0x 1 year ago
@rocknrollguru23 They break when they fall.
daw162 1 year ago
@daw162 So don't drop it. Pretty sure that's Guitar care 101.
rocknrollguru23 1 year ago
@rocknrollguru23
people do drop it at factories and during derivery it isnt just manufacture's fault but can be factory w orker's or derivery guy's fault but we have no control over it!
Gibson doesn't suck but they sure are overpriced is what i can say
I don't want to spend just 1k+ more for LP that just have 3 degrees more angle then Epi's and have better pickups.. because u can always change pickups later.
if you are playing on stage Name of brand is good idea to have.
Fakestar0x 1 year ago
@Fakestar0x If they drop it then, it isn't my problem because then they won't try to sell it.
Gibson's may be overpriced new, but I have only bought one used instrument in my life. (And it was a bass, not a guitar.) My LP Studio (1996 before they fucked the design by chambering them) was a decent price, and works for what I play. (Rock and blues.)
Also, for the record, the only Epiphone I would ever want to play is the LP Custom.
rocknrollguru23 1 year ago
@rocknrollguru23
I agree, but since we got off topic lets get on topic with this vid response, I can say it's that guy's fault because he didnt test out the guitar before he bought it... we all test out the guitar before we buy it orelse we wont know whats wrong with it.
I made similar mistakes with jackson and fender guitar which had flaws. he bought it, like ed roman says himself he has to live with it. it is stupid that he posts video that says things suck. he wont get business done.
Fakestar0x 1 year ago
@Fakestar0x I couldn't agree more. This guy should have plugged it in once, mistakes like these would have been really obvious right away. I guess I really can't hate on Guitar Center here, because a fool and his money were parted...
rocknrollguru23 1 year ago
'You mean the kids that work there misled you?...
Thirdgen83 1 year ago
At least Gibson's frets stay glued on, eh Ed?
LessthanJake14 1 year ago
@FenrirLupus I have a hand-assembled PartsCaster with Sperzel lockers and it stays in tune and they are only 12:1. That's not the issue. Gibsons have wanky necks and lousy cut nuts and that causes more tuning issues than the tuners.
Anybody that buys a Gibson is a fucking moron including this guy. I don't feel sorry for him. He should have read the receipt before he left the store.
Frankly, if I had $3000 burning a hole in my pocket, I'd have a custom ax made by Ed or build a Warmoth.
DarthKazi 1 year ago
@FenrirLupus Agiles blow the nuts off of any Gibson. Their workers are trained by real luthiers and not a single guitar leaves the factory without passing numerous quality control tests. Hell the fretwork alone is better than any Gibson ever put in a box for shipment.
DarthKazi 1 year ago
@minpinful Gibson guitars are NOT 'the best'. The BEST, is a truly hand-built LUTHIER-built instrument, not some corporate mass-produced copy of a once great guitar. Gibsons are CNC machined and only ASSEMBLED by hand. Their bridges are made of Zinc alloy pot metal crap... instead of pure Aluminum like the originals. Quit being a brand worshiper! For the price of a Jimmy Page No. 2, you could buy TWO Jet Guitars which, in every way, shape and form, blow the doors off ANY Gibson.
DarthKazi 1 year ago
well one thing.. gibson guitars hasn't been updated for it's design on les paul for almost 40 years now... it's just people love to play old stuff that good musicians use.. good musicians can sound good with crap guitar or good guitar so yeah.... guitar is just more of body design then anything... rest u can customize at shops..
Fakestar0x 1 year ago
hi....i'm with you on this, did they step up 'n' replace the guitar yet???
ilovemywah 1 year ago
guys he might have played the same model somewhere else and he saw it at a good price in guitar center and got real excited about it so he bought it. I mean who would predict that a Gibson would have this many issues. i'd be pissed as hell too if i bought a guitar and it was broke and i couldn't return it i'd be going ape shit to get my money back
MrGuitarcovers10 1 year ago 5
@MrGuitarcovers10 your right on the money here! you never really know what a guitar, amp or whatever performs like untill you get it home & run it through your setup..99% of the time sales staff blame any odd/static noises on the lighting in the store (we've all heard this!!!) plus there's always some ass crankin an amp so you don't get to hear what your demo'ing properly....we put our trust in big name store's because they generaly offer a better service...this guys been stung!!
ilovemywah 1 year ago
Thank's for post this,people should know these details before buy any Les Paul guitar..Les Paul's was alrite in 60's to 80's.. I bought a Jackson RR5 Pro series for $1,299 with neck thru body construction,very cheaper than a Les Paul guitar that comes with a set neck and most of them comes with old pickups and you have to pay more than $2,000 for a Les Paul
djgalantdjomax1 1 year ago
People purchase guitars ALL THE TIME without trying them out first. What about ALL INTERNET sales? Fact of the matter is, if I'm buying a second or third hand used guitar, or cheap no-name brand, sure I'm gonna try it all out. When you buy a GIBSON LES PAUL, you should never ever expect that somehow, because of the consumer's lack of prudence, you just might wind up with a guitar like this. LOL.
This instrument is a complete JOKE, DTPA claim in TX should be NO PROBLEM for your attorney.
cpenga 1 year ago
gibson guitars suck period. just cause page plays one doesn't mean dick
2003JL 1 year ago
@LouieDragna you seem to comment enough to make me believe you work for guitar center (or you are a huge fanboy) and are just trying to bash this poor mans claims and insinuate that this problem never happened.....pretty good defense strategy id say. My advice to you is to stay off the internet until you grow up.
johnnysitarphillips 1 year ago 3
What you need to do is get a Quicksilver.
I have two Les Pauls that I keep for sentimental reasons.
I have three Quicksilvers.
tsmith01220 1 year ago 2
That guitar does not deserve the Gibson logo.
MishuTaste 1 year ago