@hellerZauberer The sinew wrap provides support for the haft also, and more importantly, keeps the shaft from splitting behind the point on impact. I put a small sinew wrap on arrows back at the nock end for a similar purpose. On the rare occasion where one arrow hits the nock end of another that is in the target already, just small bit of sinew keeps the shaft from splitting all the way down (allowing repair of the damaged nock).
@aerodynamicband Look up "making hide glue". there are some very good videos out there on youtube. I, personally, prefer this for hafting knifes and points. Hide glue is better for Ulus and similar tools (my opinion; hope it helps).
you have to chew the sinew? see, to me that is kinda gross. it has came from a dead and bloody deer tendon. now i am not trying to critisize as i want to flintknap and make points. is there like any other way to soften the sinew with out chewing it?
Dude you don't have to chew sinew with your mouth. Thats just the way this guy prefers to it. You can just soak it in warm water for 20 minutes and u will achieve the exact same thing. Your just trying to make it moist and flexible. good luck
i use a loop as well but with the same piece of sinew. i see your using another piece for the loop. im kind of lost on how that is working. i will work with it and see if i can figure it out. a video on the looping your doing would be awesome. thanks so much for sharing. Grady B
have you ever used pitch instead. If not, try it, just gather it from a pine, heat it up in a tin until a thick mixture forms, not a watery one and just put it on.
That's exactly what I'm using. Pine pitch melted and mixed with crushed wood charcoal, and dry horse manure, gathered up on the stick, allowed to harden and then heated for use as needed.
@Paleoaleo You mix horse manure in with the pine sap & old coals from a wood fire? What does the manure do, for the mix. (not something I would want to taste). I am not putting down the mix. . . I just want to understand it.
@MrPicStuff hes not tasting the pitch glue he just uses it as an adhesive and what the charcoal and manure do is work as a flexibility and bonding agent to make the pitch more workable than straight sap
@Paleoaleo Hey, me too! At least the friends and family (not married yet). They all tollerate it pretty well for the most part. I suppose they just see it as part of my other 'eccentricities".
how hot does it have to be to melt the pitch could you use a lighter or a match or a candle cause i cant find canned heat in anystore and were exactly do you get the gelatin
I usually use one of those cheap, propane camp stoves, or just some coals from a campfire (or bbq) pulled off to one side. Supermarkets often have these sterno cans. They are pretty useful to have around.
you are verry skilled are those hand made arrows and how do you dry your sinew keep making vids there really good i have a cabin in the upper pinunisula of michigan and i will try some of thees things you teach thank you
Thanks for the kind words. I get the sinew already dried out from friends or in trades with others. I've seen other people dry it though...they string up some lines in an airy but covered place, and then hang the wet sinew from the lines - like a clothes line.
I live in northern Az and I find those stone atlatl points when i go hiking.A friend of mine found one of those foreshafts in a cave on private property along with some yucca sandals.I was wondering where do you purchase those points?I made my atlatl from oak and i take it with me when i go hiking.
Man, I'd love to make finds like that! On the stone points, I make them myself. I took up flintknapping some years back, and have a reasonable ability to chip points. It's quite addicting!
What if he hits a bale of straw? Or a gourd? Or a bag of sand? Ther're lots of things that those points would survive....but then again that isn't the point now is it?
Not necessarily! Some of this stone is amazingly tough. Especially the flint and chert. I've thrown atlatl darts and shot arrows with stone points to test them and to see how much abuse they would take before breaking. I was amazed how well they held up.
hey Paleoaleo, do you know if there is any advantages to making hide glue from scratch? because this "knox geletone" looks like a much easier substitute. the reason i ask is becuase i plan on making a sinew backed short bow and i want the most effective hide glue for the sinewing prosess.
If the pine pitch glue holds the point on (and i'm sure it does), what is the point of then wrapping it with sinew? Asthetics?
hellerZauberer 4 months ago
@hellerZauberer The sinew wrap provides support for the haft also, and more importantly, keeps the shaft from splitting behind the point on impact. I put a small sinew wrap on arrows back at the nock end for a similar purpose. On the rare occasion where one arrow hits the nock end of another that is in the target already, just small bit of sinew keeps the shaft from splitting all the way down (allowing repair of the damaged nock).
CoachTomPasLax 3 months ago
As I said, after chapter 1 vid, you know what you're doing, and I appreciate you making the vid! Have you written any HOW-TO e-books?
MrPicStuff 1 year ago
what can you use for natural hide glue? which part of an animal. the inside of the hooves?
aerodynamicband 1 year ago
@aerodynamicband Look up "making hide glue". there are some very good videos out there on youtube. I, personally, prefer this for hafting knifes and points. Hide glue is better for Ulus and similar tools (my opinion; hope it helps).
TheSonofgun666 6 months ago in playlist Traditional Weapon and Tool Making
Great video Tom
wagouche 1 year ago
Awesome video I love it
gimblee31 1 year ago
Why use sinew? The point would probably only hold for one shoot and it's a fore-shaft. Amazing videos!
T3hJones 2 years ago
you have to chew the sinew? see, to me that is kinda gross. it has came from a dead and bloody deer tendon. now i am not trying to critisize as i want to flintknap and make points. is there like any other way to soften the sinew with out chewing it?
jgree172 2 years ago
Dude you don't have to chew sinew with your mouth. Thats just the way this guy prefers to it. You can just soak it in warm water for 20 minutes and u will achieve the exact same thing. Your just trying to make it moist and flexible. good luck
st1rcrazy12 2 years ago
Yea, probably best not to chew the sinew - diseases and all that!
Paleoaleo 2 years ago
i use a loop as well but with the same piece of sinew. i see your using another piece for the loop. im kind of lost on how that is working. i will work with it and see if i can figure it out. a video on the looping your doing would be awesome. thanks so much for sharing. Grady B
bustedflakes 2 years ago
how do i get sinew ?
Gonamez 2 years ago
Here's a scenario- Could I use sinew from say, a raccoon or groundhog? Just wondering.
Str8JacketMafia 2 years ago
i love the stone age its way cooler than now i wish i was born in the olden days...
supnoob1 2 years ago 2
ye now you try to exercise your aweraness
make a bow or something and and the neibhour thinks you are crazy
one day i said: wtf you are looking man get back to your house.>:O
he said: instead of reading for school you are doing pointless things. >:(
myenglishsuck0123 2 years ago
i like what you are doing
DonLorenzo1994 2 years ago
have you ever used pitch instead. If not, try it, just gather it from a pine, heat it up in a tin until a thick mixture forms, not a watery one and just put it on.
ForkbeardSvein 2 years ago
That's exactly what I'm using. Pine pitch melted and mixed with crushed wood charcoal, and dry horse manure, gathered up on the stick, allowed to harden and then heated for use as needed.
Paleoaleo 2 years ago
@Paleoaleo You mix horse manure in with the pine sap & old coals from a wood fire? What does the manure do, for the mix. (not something I would want to taste). I am not putting down the mix. . . I just want to understand it.
MrPicStuff 1 year ago
@MrPicStuff hes not tasting the pitch glue he just uses it as an adhesive and what the charcoal and manure do is work as a flexibility and bonding agent to make the pitch more workable than straight sap
bullseyebowandarrow 6 months ago
u seem like a nice guy to have a conversation with
spasblad 2 years ago
Nice of you to say so! I like conversing with people...so if we ever meet, we'll have to chat it up a bit! Thanks again.
Tom
Paleoaleo 2 years ago
So amazing! Your wife should be proud that she has someone who would be able to provide for her if there was ever a catastrophe.
This sort of knowledge is worth more than all the money in the world in my opinion.
thanks for sharing with us!
EbolaV1rus 3 years ago 2
My wife thinks I'm out of my mind...as do most of my friends and family!
Paleoaleo 2 years ago 2
@Paleoaleo me too haha very informative man good job
smellanalan 1 year ago
@Paleoaleo Hey, me too! At least the friends and family (not married yet). They all tollerate it pretty well for the most part. I suppose they just see it as part of my other 'eccentricities".
hellerZauberer 4 months ago
Very cool, thanks for sharing!!!!
TreasureFiend 3 years ago
how hot does it have to be to melt the pitch could you use a lighter or a match or a candle cause i cant find canned heat in anystore and were exactly do you get the gelatin
oiuytrewwert 3 years ago
I usually use one of those cheap, propane camp stoves, or just some coals from a campfire (or bbq) pulled off to one side. Supermarkets often have these sterno cans. They are pretty useful to have around.
Paleoaleo 2 years ago
you are verry skilled are those hand made arrows and how do you dry your sinew keep making vids there really good i have a cabin in the upper pinunisula of michigan and i will try some of thees things you teach thank you
oiuytrewwert 3 years ago
hay it kinda looks like a solid peice of sinew and i must add verry beautiful arrow head
oiuytrewwert 3 years ago
Thanks for the kind words. I get the sinew already dried out from friends or in trades with others. I've seen other people dry it though...they string up some lines in an airy but covered place, and then hang the wet sinew from the lines - like a clothes line.
Paleoaleo 2 years ago
very impressive sir.YOU and sir DAVE CANTERBURY are my inspiration.keep posting inovative and informative videoes.i am looking farword for more
samurai291 3 years ago
Thanks! Nice of you to watch and offer encouragement (my wife would beg you not to do that though! LOL...)
Paleoaleo 3 years ago
I live in northern Az and I find those stone atlatl points when i go hiking.A friend of mine found one of those foreshafts in a cave on private property along with some yucca sandals.I was wondering where do you purchase those points?I made my atlatl from oak and i take it with me when i go hiking.
oceanduderz 3 years ago
Man, I'd love to make finds like that! On the stone points, I make them myself. I took up flintknapping some years back, and have a reasonable ability to chip points. It's quite addicting!
Paleoaleo 3 years ago
You sir are an artist. Keep the videos coming.
thanson77 3 years ago
that tip will break as soon as you shoot at anything other than an animal.
tkwndo55 3 years ago
What if he hits a bale of straw? Or a gourd? Or a bag of sand? Ther're lots of things that those points would survive....but then again that isn't the point now is it?
thanson77 3 years ago
Not necessarily! Some of this stone is amazingly tough. Especially the flint and chert. I've thrown atlatl darts and shot arrows with stone points to test them and to see how much abuse they would take before breaking. I was amazed how well they held up.
Paleoaleo 3 years ago
hey Paleoaleo, do you know if there is any advantages to making hide glue from scratch? because this "knox geletone" looks like a much easier substitute. the reason i ask is becuase i plan on making a sinew backed short bow and i want the most effective hide glue for the sinewing prosess.
joehavian 2 years ago
I wondered what the hide glue consisted of. Very cool use!
raindog951 3 years ago
Very cool.
WyattKaldenberg 3 years ago