Dervish Rituals - Iran

[mirarostodo]

Fakirism is totally un-Islamic. What these simple folk do is completely disaprooved by main stream Islam. If you are a Real Muslim you do not harm yourself with knives or whips(fakir) or hit or bled yourself(Shia Matam) for any reason for so ever. (Shia Muslim Imams never slap or lacerate their bodies because the religion forbids them of doing so and it is "beneath them"-attitude-, they leave those acts to the simple mindless folk).

[LordParsi]

What this racist British is saying is utterky wrong. ''Lock the women inside homes''? Muslims do not do that. I am a proud Parsi and even I think this is wrong.

[rumcent]

@Assyrianmaster iranian does not equal persian. persians are a distinct ethnic group within iran, like the kurds, turks and arabs. the shah was trying to make everyone be persian, thats why the minorities in iran were all for the revolution.

[XCallMeJane]

Three hours dancing =_=

[vidaripollen]

they are called Parsis and Irani s in india.an successful and peaceful minority in this country.

[hengwin]

Kurdish women always enjoyed more freedom than their Muslim counterparts? While the first part of the statement is true, what does the speaker think Kurds are? Iranian Kurds are 96% Sunni muslims.

[danyalalyasa]

I love Iranian women ,i would like to marry one ,

[lancetop]

hilarious how the Iranian man says god said Islam is the only religion, or something like that. EVERY religion claims it is the only correct one. Why religion is so destructive.

[BmArthas]

This is a stupidity... a shame for you... you betrayed the first and the last religion - Islam, and you turned on a wrong way...

[whirler88]

bloody western media! can they make any kind of video about iran without political propaganda?!

[Jeffyrobs]

Pahleeeveee? wtf

[hengwin]

"Kurdish women [...] enjoyed more freedom than their Muslim counterparts" - what does the filmmaker think Kurds are? Iranian Kurds are mostly Sunni muslims.

[kurdishleader]

Kurds are bravesr nation in the world, we only fear Allah! There was more than 20 ancient nations in Middle-East, 90% of them vanished but Kurds did not, out population is 50 million and out culture still exists!

[LordoftheJamesClan]

okay, kurds are offically weirder than sauds now.

[kurdatheist]

@LordoftheJamesClan

This is a very small minority..... Kurds are generally more liberal... But stuff like this exist all over the world

[jjonad]

They are not Sunni as far as I know. Too off the beaten track for these practises for the Orthodox Islam. They are I think all relics of Zaroastrian religion or may be even before...

[guguflica]

why they live for?...i would kill iranians for fun.

[BenjiPars]

@Assyrianmaster

ure the first assyrian that i heard respect my cuntry, I live in sweden all the syrian and assyrian people are rasist and fachist and generally black hearts

[BeamSurfer]

sufis are soo crazy,,,,,,, i'm not being a sufi, just a normal sunni.

[HiddenPr0phet]

according to the usa everyone of the 9/11 attackers were sunni's ....and you are calling the sufi's crazy?

stop knocking your brothers and sisters.....the shiie..and sufis dont want TERROR!

IRAN WAS THE ONLY ISLAMIC NATION TO PROTEST AFTER 9/11 SAYING DEATH TO TERRORIST!! i love my sunni brothers and sisters ...but they have really hurt islam...with there acts.

[BeamSurfer]

@Assyrianmaster your not Persian, we're just Iranian humans.

[Caracalla23]

@Assyrianmaster Tell that to the Bahai or those who try to convert to Christianity.

[BeamSurfer]

@Caracalla23 shiites ancestor worship. hope israel kicks iran's ass soon.

[lita534]

this kind of people should be executed where ever you find them to be new adolf hitler hey ruining sunni islam the filthy evil animals

[BeamSurfer]

@lita534 i personally like israel better than iran (except for the expulsion palestinians) cause Iran is a SHIIITE country full of shit!

[Muuujahideen]

this are NOT MUSLIMSSSSS

THIS IS SATANIC

[nadimrob]

@Assyrianmaster be afraid of ALLAH subhanehu we teala

[fp470]

OMG this is not real ISlam! Real islam is dictated to the masses by only those wise and holy men in Arabia, the whores of the Saudi Monarchy who control the wahabbi radicals ( agroup who innovated themselves into existence in teh 1800s to be the self appointed Islam police) and who sponsor semi-radical and some debated terrorist fronts so the world conforms to their view of Islam only and in turn keeping the Saudi monarch in charge of Mecca and Medina?

Think for yourselves Muslims

[melis6775]

They are Psychos OMG ...Idiots..This is not real Islamm !!!!!!!

[Caracalla23]

@melis6775 What is REAL Islam??? It seems to me that Islam was a very diverse religion and adapted to local tribal customs. In Indonesia some Muslims will pray to Allah and to the spirits of their ancestors.

[OhMaDayzz]

Coool, my dad is also a Sufi/Dervish from Iran :))))

[bima58]

this ist not islam...!!!

[Caracalla23]

@bima58 They think they're Muslims.

[Caracalla23]

@bima58 Some Muslims in Indonesia prey to Allah and to the spirits of their ancestors.

[runescape3976]

@bima58 yea this is not islam

[beiibyy]

thats fucking crazy

[RaphaelMusic]

this is nooooooooooooooooooooootttt dervish

[MrNorthcold]

@Assyrianmaster cfuk off man fake Assyrian u are not real.

every fuckin idiot knows assyrian are semtic-Aramic racially u ignorant azzhole

[MrNorthcold]

@Assyrianmaster Are You sure, You are an assyrian?

You asshole ignorant written here " All iranian are persian " even Assyrian? Armenina? Turkmens? Jews?

[mirarostodo]

"Man, I got a terrible headache today, me brains' are all mooshed up".

[upholdsunnah]

This is not islam...

[BenjiPars]

@upholdsunnah

u have no idea what islam is to begin with, Thiis just proffs what human been can do with his / her spiritual energy given by god. Ure just lost cheap, And i guess ure an arab, and they are not really famous for their intellect , good luck,. Dont judgde u wont get judged.

[nadimrob]

this is not islam!!!!!!!!!! prophet mohammed never did anything like this

[msg06769]

the ritual had nothing to do with islam stupid reporter

[marifirufai]

.

Bidad,

Rifailere iftira ediyorlar.

Irakli veya iranli bir cesit insan bunlar.

Tariki Rifaiye,yi bu sekilde bilenler,

yanlis biliyorlar.Bu tür bir ibadet yoktur

islam dininde.

[italianmuslim]

they are not muslims sunni they look alawites

[Manooshka1]

british sure know how to divide a nation

[Mehrpascal]

Hi Toppink,

Well,I dont know where you do live and who you are,but the only thing I know,is that you never have heard about respect.If Darvish belive in what they do thats their business not yours,the best thing for you is that you open your own eyes first and look aroud ,learn respect people as they are not as you want them to be.

Live and let live.

[Toppnik]

This is sick. Those people obviously have a mental problem. And it is said to see how some people can be primitive. There is a world outside, there is science, people who work on medical, engineer who's making your life better and safetly...and what are you doing? You doing wrong and sick things like stupid bastards...Come on, wake up...There is no God You belive. There is no such a bad God who want to people make pain for Him.

[Melleina]

Everyone has the right to their own beliefs. I dont agree with what they are doing but so as long as they do not harm other creatures then i have no problem.

[narimanonarini]

fuck you the kurds love Iran

[Naraku111]

The Kurds love Kurdistan

[iranovich2]

Darvish and sufi were the movement against [islam-arab] invasion of Iran.

[7jem331]

Amazing stuff. I guess they are Rifai dervishes.

[ADIMM0]

This is not Islam. Islam does not allow bodily ham to the body. Get your facts right you uneducated idiots. These people have gone away from the straight path. Islam does not say dance to gain enlightenment. THIS IS NOT PART OF ISLAM

[fiernocht]

this is a part of islam.. this is fact..

[quinbrady]

So you are discounting judeo mythology as non-historical too? By your definition it must discounted. There has been untold millions spent and thousands of lives (during Cruasades) lost trying to find the relevant archeology to no avail; 'Solomon's Temple' still eludes. Kevin, Columcille & Aodh definitely practised trancelike meditative states as well as scourging & it was a feature of the Pelagian era in the isles. Neither Christianity of that era nor early Islam would have passed modern muster.

[irishxxkelt]

Solomon's temple was destroyed and it was rebuilt after the Persian allowed the Jews to return home. The Temple Mount still stands.

[quinbrady]

That's hilarious

[irishxxkelt]

This is actually Satanic and they don't know it!

[quinbrady]

Not really sure how you come up with that. I've studied a lot of Celtic mythology and it is full of the same kind of esoteric practises. Druid's entered into divination trances, and warriors were encouraged to learn pain dissociation to enable surgery on their wounds. Saints Columcille, Kevin, Killian, Aodh & ofcourse Brigid were all known to have practised scouring and pain-based meditation. The notion of something being 'Satanic' is a very recent, post-reformationist, puritanical construction.

[irishxxkelt]

Mythology means not actual historical. As for the Irish saints they may have mortified the flesh but trance was not a part of it.

[fiernocht]

mythology actually means the study of the stories related to man and the gods, factual or not. and as all stories yes a lot has been embellished over time. and yes meditation was a part of the irish saints practices as well as any deeply religious catholic and jewish practice.

study the history of religions, my friend.

[molezay]

Satanic is the religion which permits child girl marriage at age of 9 years or people who commit suicide bombe .this is a spirituel work as do monks in asia.

[Manooshka1]

@molezay  YES YES YES

[apophthegmata]

Dervishs are not muslim nor are their roots, they're purely Iranian... as if those arab lizzard-eater could ever reach an intellectual level HAHAHA funny joke

Every good Muslim hates Dervishs because of their Ahurian Spirit

[vahishta09]

@apophthegamata:

where the hell you get this nonsense bowlsheat and who the hell you are?

man stop pitting in the air because it will directly back on your hidden face !

[sybertime2000]

با دختران بازداشتی با شدتی تجاوز نموده‌اند که منجر به ایجاد جراحات و پارگی در سیستم تناسلی آنان گردیده است. افرادی به پسرهای جوان زندانی با حالتی وحشیانه تجاوز کرده‌اند به طوری‌که برخی دچار افسردگی و مشکلات جدی روحی و جسمی گردیده‌اند و در کنج خانه‌های خود خزیده‌اند."

[leslietrav]

Oh, by the way, please call me Lee. My friends do.

[seanamico]

God damn this religion of Arab animals.

Islam demise is coming thank god & at least it will become shit religion that it is in Iran & people will get rid of this shit religion in Iran.

Iranians have had enough of Arab animal religion & law.

[leslietrav]

Islam has its strange Sufi rituals and Shia pilgrimages and is diverse as the number of people practicing. Haven't you ever met a Muslim person who was a beautiful person?

I think that some of the Islam which is spreading to the west is fake but some of it is a better way of life, by far, than the converts had before.

[seanamico]

I have yet met a decent, respectable Muslim that follows Islam. I have never met a Muslim that is religious and follows Islams teachings and is a decent person.

[leslietrav]

seanamico, sorry you have never met any good Muslims. When I was in the hospital with serious injuries, it was a very kind Muslim woman who helped me get better and cared for me. I will never forget her. She was the first one to read Quran to me.

When I was new in my city, it was a Muslim woman who helped me find my way around. She never tried to force Islam on me, but I became interested because I had to know the secrets of her inner beauty.

[seanamico]

Les, that is not what I said. I said I have yet met a Muslim that is very religious that is decent or I would trust. Half my family is still Muslim.

You may think theyre intent was not to get you into Islam but it is a tactic as many others use, it is all about timing & trust, they need your trust first before they can manipulate you into the introduction of Islam.

[leslietrav]

seanamico...the two Muslim women that I talked about were quite religious, carrying and reciting Quran, wearing the hijab, no, no, I know they were not trying to manipulate me. They could not care less to turn me into a Muslim, rather, I was attracted to their spirits. I am sure they would have treated anyone else the same as they treated me. I don't believe there was ever a plot to make me a Muslim--I was always the one with the interest and curiosity.

[ultradestruction]

The news reporter is an idiot for not speaking in details regarding this video.

Dervish is a sufi ritual.

Sufism is inner-mystical thought that has been within both Shi'ite/Sunni Islam as well as outside Islam.

Some Radical 12er Shi'ites & Many Salafi Sunnis consider Sufism as a heresy.

[magemaatikko]

Lol, do they also pierce women's clitoris in Iran? I would like to see that in the video also.

[seanamico]

Piercing womens clitoris is a barbaric African & some Arab nations teachings.

[rokabililily]

Ya.Allah shows His power in everything...

[namlaofeel]

even though i am muslim ...but this rituals seems too strange for me

[JihadAgainstTheHater]

it's a sufi ritual

[emperatoor1]

me too

[xeritin]

their life is terrible, they need Jesus Christ to get saved and go to heaven.

Dictator Ahmadinejad is insane person!!!

[creamgetthamoney]

go f urself with ur jesus christ

[ghassanp]

You are the insane one believing in a children's fairy tale of a god born of a virgin woman, its laughable.  The age of colonization and white-washing people with your Jesus Christ is passed. Go save yourself!

[emperatoor1]

what does it have to do with ahmadinejad???????

[dd1857]

stupid fools do yoga..easier way to get supernatural powers...and lasting powers... if supernatural powers you want

[IranWantsDivorce]

wow what shit translation - also kurds are real iranians - we love them, fuck the retard arab mullahs that raped our country and devided us...and atleast their version of islam allow women way more freedom and people can dance - fuck islam either way tho - they need to drop islam like rest of iran like before arabs and their shit religion came to our noble land!

[adamamida]

Mudbloods.

[mirarostodo]

Cool! Better yet, watch one of these fakirs drink a glass of water afterwards to see if they leak through their punctures... (:|

[xOxKurdParstxOx]

All i say is FUCK Persia and persians

[sedahedonja]

????????????????

[Fred2287]

There is no deference between KURDISH and IRANINAN they are same race, Stupid

This FUCKING MULLAHS wants us to be deferent.

So the reason that MULLAHS dont like dervish is they dont

Want to have competition because

Dervish relief that how fake MULLAHS ISLAM is in fact that Islam

That mullahs represent is a demonized or ISLAME SHEITANI

I am telling you that all mullahs are pure demons.

FUCK ALL MULLAHS.

FUCK KHAMENEI.

[feesabeal]

Kurds are original iranain the medes. I am Zanganah Kurd and at the same time Iranian. If Kurds need to be with any of the 4 countries, they need to be with Iran.

[farukim]

ıslam bu degılkı

[1234javaad]

this is a cool video but he makes a couple of mistakes. First thouhg most kurds are sunni many are shia. Second Kurds are recognized as a minority in Iran (there is even a stste funded Kurdish TV station). Third the Kurds are an Iranian ppl who speak an Iranian language. Fourth he claims that dervishes are specific to Kurds. Fifth he calls the dervishes "Islamic Mystics" which is an orientalist category as "mystic" is a christian word.

[testthisisonlyatest]

I agree with you up until the last point. Mystic is a Greek term, or at least a term originating with pre-Christian Greek mystery religions. It refers to a person who strives for a personal experience with the divine, usually through a set of rituals. Thus, a dervish is a mystic by the common definition of the word.

[1234javaad]

I think you are conflating the meaning of the word "mystic" with that of "gnostic". The "Gnostic" seeks unmediated personal knowledge of the divine. "Mystic" has wholly different contations. And none of them, ancient or modern, are as accurate as describing what is going on as actually doing some research and using the language and culture of the ppl one is filming, instead of just thinking that everything that neone in the world does is like something europeans have already done.

[TheRoyalLoyal]

Its very intresting, because they are Sunni, but still they hang the pucture of Imam Ali (aelihi salam)

[SaracenWarrior]

The REAL traditional Sufi Orders follow the Shariah and Tasawwuf regardless if they are Sunni/Shia. Any group that says otherwise is a Pseudo-Sufi/Dervish movement that is based on false information created by those who wish to destroy true Sufism/Dervish.

sufimaster dot org

[SaracenWarrior]

REAL DERVISH/SUFI IS A MUSLIM. If they are not Muslims, they are not Sufi / Dervish.

sufimaster dot org

[Eleusha]

That's wrong what he sayed darwishes are not only sonni muslems, some another part are shia and totaly darwishes have ther own religon, they are not folowing Islam totaly.but it's lot's of diffrent Kind.