The slap moves the buttons into one bulk to one side, the board has lines and dots on it so measurements are possible which you can clearly see at 3:13, finally its just quick calculation as well- it's a difficult trick.
Derren claims he never uses "plants". He has his own techniques for sure. Re. "slowing down time" there was a famous female pianist who claimed to be able to do this when sight-reading difficult music.
Or perhaps he begins with a guesstimate, as he seems to continue counting the buttons for a several seconds after his initial prediction. He knows the area of the tray and the size of the buttons. Surely with enough practices, he could tell at a glance 50+ from 70+...
Well, if it was me I would put some sort of weight sensor into the table - notice that it's easy with this kind of table, you have to check what is the weight of table after she covers the table. Do the math and voila.
@mtoh81 yeah I was going to say the same thing. Scale in the table with a transmitter going to him. Oftentimes people will take making a mistake to make it seem more real.
The fact that the helper has to hold the tray instead of keeping it on the table makes this quite a likely scenario.
The real magic here is that at 1:15 he puts his microphone down on the table behind him and keeps walking, yet clearly he is still using a microphone. AMAZING.
There are very simple explanations for most of this that fit. I am not saying these are the answers, but they are possibilities. The video we see on the over head is not genuine. Its pre-recorded, shes a plant, they are talking along with the video, not with the actual buttons on the tray. The monkey thing, hardly random. Very playable. I know a very well known magician, on TV, he has a staff of 40. most are plants.
no joke with this one or tricks. He Has a photogarhpic memory hes memorizes books in half an hour just by takeing mental pictures in his mind and recalling them
I think I've got it. The frame holds certain amount, in which there will likely only be a layer of one, or at the most, a layer of two buttons. Derren can gauge the level of the buttons based on it's comparison to the inner walls of the frame.
Now comes in the reason for the slap. In order to slap AND hold the frame at the same time, the frame will be held side to side rather than up and down. Because of the, the buttons should shift to one corner as a result of the HARD slap or movement...
There is only one thing wrong with what I just said.....Where is the damn scale!!!! Perhaps the table top is the scale and is disguised as a table....Either way D B is incredibly talented and very entertaining!!!!!!
Also, if you took any of those items off the scale, the scale would tell you how many were left on after you took some off. I think this is how he does this particular trick. By weighing the bowl, one button along with the black cloth and resetting the scale back to zero no matter how many you took out the scale will tell you how many are left. If you have 100 buttons in the bowl and you randomly take out 30 DB will know that there are 70 buttons in the bowl so there must be 30 on the tray.
At my old job we had an electronic scale that could count how many nuts or bolts or whatever that we put on the scale. What you had to do was put only one piece onto the scale so the scale could be calibrated to the exact weight, you also had to reset scale back to zero with the 1 item still on there. After that then you could put however many of those items you wanted to and the scale could weigh in ounces or pounds and give you an exact piece count to tell you how many you put on the scale.
he does it with uncoloured coffeebeans aswell! ... so possibly color for the stage to be sure it works out the first time ... by the way - this is a typical compulsive neurotic
I forgot to say that the woman took a extra button and drop it on the tray. He couldnt hear that, but Derren Brown will get the message through his earpiece from one of his staff, if something is going on he cant control.
A man would normally grasp a bigger amount (because he has bigger hands). The reason why they are coloured, is so he can see very quickly, how many of a certain colour that has been taken, thats why he changed his mind about the amount.
If you are taking a handful of these buttons and drop them on the tray it has a special sound. A handful of 25 buttons has another sound than 22, so if you have trained the trick for a while you will be able to hear the different sounds. What you also have trained, is that a normal size hand will automatic grasp a certain amount around maybe 22 - 25 buttons, thats why he should see her hands when she entered the stage, simply to measure them being normal size hands for a woman.
I would quess there are as many people backstage as there are colors available. Then, they all only count their own color, add it up and notify Derren through earpiece, or sign at the opposite side of the podium. He then stops and corrects his estimate. The initial estimate is probably based upon a scale underneath the bowl, they do a little math backstage and signal Derren in some way...
@pietorski Nah, what he does is way easier than you think if you know how to read body language. Hes not trying to be a psychic, he will say that himself that it is all trickery.
@SomaLFM What does body language have to do with this trick??? I will correct myself though and claim that it is all done with a scale underneath the bowl. So as you said.... just a trick, no mental powers.
@pietorski@pietorski your theory is more outlandish than the theory of this being real. This stuff is actually nowhere near as impossible as you think, it is trickery, its not psychic and he will say that himself, its just a trick and can be done quite easily
She is an accomplice the number of buttons left is easier to count than the number she has transferred. she can see this in the fairly flat bottomed container. Notice she tilts her head and eyes during the slapping routine - this may indicate the number. Also notice she uses her hands to cover up the number of buttons she removes, so if she takes three instead of two it is very hard to tell, so she may be compensating for Darren's bad guess.
Maybe table contains scales and weights remaining buttons. The lady slaps Derren because he needs her to look in opposite direction then he. At that moment crew can signal him resulting count.
Salvatorek, read TheWasteProject's comment, it explains it.
It's all in the colours of the buttons. One blue button represents 10 buttons, so you just have to count the dark blues, multiply by 10 and then estimate the last couple of buttons that are left.
That's why Derren changed his mind on whether it was 63 or 66 and then 76 or 77.
Deren gets a close count and she helps making it exact.
@koldtoft : look closely or download the video. I had to watch it several time to see what is happening but two buttons (orange one) are stacked and she starts with two but ends with three
the buttons are colored. look at the dark blue ones. its the law of average. they are well mixed. 1 blue one for every 10 buttons. so 7 blue ones is 70, then a few more than that. you can count that in a flash. then just train to work out where within 10 the buttons are. I think anyway.
@TheWasteProject That's a really good observation. But at the same time, if you're guessing within ten buttons, then your rate of success is only 1/10, or 10%. the probability that he guessed correctly on two occasions is then 1/10 X1/10 = 1/100, or 1% at the most. With a 1% probability, it is highly statistically unlikely that he is correct on both guesses. do you think something else might be at work here? or any other explanations? I'm extremely interested, that's for sure...
@freestyleskierfasho this is what I think. I dont know how the trick is done, but notice how he asked the lady if he could look at her hands. He was probably looking at the size of her hands because each time time she grabbed a handful of buttons. He doesnt look at her, but he can hear how many times she reaches in and takes out buttons. He probably studied different hand sizes with how many buttons can be taken out in a single handful. Also he obviously knows how many buttons are in the bowl.
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High speed zoom camera from above takes a picture of the buttons, moving does not matter. Computer easily counts the buttons with an image recognition algorithm. Staffers tell him the count to an earpiece in his ear.
It's MUCH simpler than that...looking at her hands when she comes on stage and counting, by ear, how many handfuls she puts on the tray gives him an almost exact approximation of the number. It's all presentation from thereon :)
Also, he does not wear an earpiece during the show. Just thought you might want to know that.
nah it was only 2 if u watch closely, kinda looks like 3 but if u keep pausing and rewatching and look at what colors are there prior to her pulling them away and then see which ones are gone only 2 were taken
I dont want to comment about all of Derren's tricks.Some of them look really convincing.But this one is not one of them.From the 1st look,She seemed to be a stooge.The way she was counting,didnt look fair.
If I were a magician, I'd use scales,yeah. The cloth is only added later. I'm not going to say it's impossible to count them all that fast, but why bother when you can do the same thing with a much simpler and easier solution?
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The story he gives is that as a kid in school, he was bullied, and his classmates would tip his stuff on the floor, all over the place and whilst he was bending down to pick them up, they'd kick him and rough him up.
Basically he says that he would count all his personal effects that had been tipped onto the floor to detract him from their blows, and from that, he learned how to count things super fast without a quick glance. And having a photographic memory would help.
yeah and whats really sad is that you bought it. that was just to distract you from what he was really doing which was actually very simple. notice how the buttons are different colors this is a case of simple probability the dark blue buttons represent 10 buttons so he counts those up which can be done very fast and then estimates how many others may be in the tray.
Blue can't be 10. There were 7 blue the first time and 8 the 2nd.
Aside from that if there is a 1 blue button out of every 10 buttons then there is only a 10% chance of grabbing a blue button with any given handful approximately.
Quite often you will end up grabbing too many or too few blues. That is probability. You cannot throw down a challenge like this TWICE on probability without a huge chance of being proven wrong.
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he calculated how much she can take in her hand then listens when she drops them so he will know how much is on the tray thats why he checked he hands first
I do not know how he does it, but I think it is something to do with the colours. There are lots of different colours, and maybe he has trained his brains to see colours in different ways. Like there were 10 blues + 12 yellows = 22. And he got very good photographic memory... or something.
Derren Brown shows us very awesome tricks. I really hope he will do more in the future.
hey lifeofbob. yes, you're totally spot on. I just finished his book and he's VERY interested in (not unlike Richard Dawkins) in encouraging you to seek veracity and find the deceit in illusions, mysticism, New Age, mediums, psychics, all that bs. His show is astounding tricks I think precisely because he's not concealing the fact that he's tricking everyone! But he does it with INCREDIBLE efficacy. And his underlying message is to seek truth (and to unravel hoaxes) cool!
Look at 3:16 It looks like she takes three buttons and counts them as two. There is one yellow and what looks like two oranges. It's easier to see earlier in the video that there are two oranges because they overlap. Just me?
ya know if Derren just throws in some wrong numbers to wow the audience. Think about it. If he got it bang straight off, then they would know that it's magic, which is illusion based on trickery & misdirection. If he fumbles they think he's fallible, but genuine, and that's where the magic is.
"The audience knows the truth: the world is simple. It's miserable, solid all the way through. But if you could fool them, even for a second, then you can make them wonder..." - Angiers, The Prestige
cnt u just believe it, he is an amazing man! every trick he has ever done in his life cannot b a trick!!!! he just has exeptional talents!!! also, the woman cnt b in on it as he picks a random person out of the adience, who is my grandma by the way!!!!
He only has to put a scales under the bowl where all the buttons started in.. Its not that hard and he has all the time in the world to think about those tricks. He does it for a living. hellow?
I love Derren, he's an awesome showman... but its silly that people accept that he's telling the truth about how he does his "tricks"... even though half his tricks involve him being an admitted "liar", and con man.
Trusting that Derren is being honest about how his tricks work is as absurd as trusting that David Copperfield used actual magical powers to make the statue of liberty disappear.
It makes no difference that this is live, because magicians work live also.
Quite right, hossrex. So many gullible people post on Derren's videos, thinking what they see is some genius psychologist at work, not merely a skilled conjurer.
for it to be a weighing device, the buttons would have to be the exact same size. just a little variation in between each button would easily add up for derren to be around 2 off
I concur that weighing is the logical tool. Harbor Freight sells a scale that can be calibrated to count, for under $20. Ah, but then to have the results displayed somewhere else that he can observe. Still, some good technology. But technology none the less.
deadmanavir, he is just pretending to be agitated as part of his misdirection routine to distract the audience from thinking about how the trick was really done.
Yea, first you weigh all the buttons and find out how much it is, then you divide by the total amount of buttons to find the weight of one button. So then by knowing the weight of that bowl after she takes the buttons out of it, it is possible to calculate how many buttons are left, so they know how many she took ok? then when she slaps him notice he holds his cheek as though it hurt? thats cos he has a microphone hidden in his sleeve. Thats how he is told the amount of buttons from backstage
oh its ok wikipedia is it? Oh sorry, my mistake, i should done my research then. it MUST be true being on wikipedia. The fact anyone can change what is says on wikipedia is irrelevant LOL
Thats because they know the weight of buttons in that bowl on the table, the one she takes them out of right? so when she takes out the buttons the weight in the bowl drops, by knowing how much it dropped by they can easily work out how many buttons she took out, easy :)
WOW!!!!on wikipedia!!!thats definitely a reliable source. It`s not like anyone can change the site or something, cause that would just be silly.......
Continued from previous comment...--- It doesnt make it much harder when the try is moving as the buttons will moves and slide with each other as the tray moves on its own. so its more or less the same difficulty as before. continues in next comment...---
continued from last comment...--- Combined with the fact he knows roughly how many buttons are in a handfull (he can hear how many handfulls are dropped) and his photographic memory, he can tell how many are on the tray. continued in next comment...---
continued from last comment...---Then counts them in his head. This is why it takes him a few seconds. Derren also askes them to put a few "handfulls" on the board. Most people will put a few handfulls like he says but the odd person may put half a handfull maybe. contined in next comment...---
God you lot. This is not fake at all. All you people saying 'oh its obvious its a 'weighing device' or he covers his ear and has the number read out to him. Think about it its bullshit lol. Derren has proved before that he has a photgraphic memory. He sees the tray of buttons and instaly 'takes a picture' in his head. continues in next comment...---
The colour of the buttons aided in his recognition of the patterns presented on the tray. Hearing the sound of the buttons is also a part of recognition of patterns. Added to some psychological tricks, how is this not training of the right brain unless this performance is 100% rigged?
wait dude.. it cant be a weighing device in the table, because he tells you the right number even before they go to the table. and it doesn't make sence that he OR she took more buttons on a sertain pull because it seems very imposible to count even a small number of those button accuaratley in a very little time. it only took about 20 seconds for them to count all of them... this shit blows my mind!
The trick consists of three things. 1.) training, not of actual counting, but estimating amounts by what you see. The colors obviously help a lot. 2.) hearing the sound of dropping buttons and 3.) the clap in the face. As crazy as it may sound that last thing sort of determines whether it's 66 or 67.
I forgot the 'bump in the back' thing. That also matters a lot. Mainly to check whether the rough estimate is any good. More buttons means someone will be more careful when bumping into his back. It's a great trick. It's not fake for sure, as you can do an experiment yourself and find out that estimating amounts this way works rather well actually.
I think he just looks for the dark purple ones, and multiplies and hopes to play the odds, i bet there is an equal amount of every color button, and his odds were a little of the first time which is why he changed the number, he started to count as soon as she put it on the table which is why he stalled.
everybody that "sees" her take 3 buttons at 3:04 just wants to see something like that to easily explain how derren did this. but even then he would have only been 1-2 off. the mind sees what it wants.
no she defenitely took 3 sometimes and im not even a cynic. i like DB but this one was fake. she didnt have to take 3 but some1 else already explained how its done.
sometimes she took three at a time; more than once I thought I saw that happening, but I guess it was too much of a riot to see through that; If I'm mistaken, then I'm mistaken...
The slap moves the buttons into one bulk to one side, the board has lines and dots on it so measurements are possible which you can clearly see at 3:13, finally its just quick calculation as well- it's a difficult trick.
foolsgetby 2 months ago
Derren claims he never uses "plants". He has his own techniques for sure. Re. "slowing down time" there was a famous female pianist who claimed to be able to do this when sight-reading difficult music.
Or perhaps he begins with a guesstimate, as he seems to continue counting the buttons for a several seconds after his initial prediction. He knows the area of the tray and the size of the buttons. Surely with enough practices, he could tell at a glance 50+ from 70+...
cmelodicminor 7 months ago
4:43 hahaha no way her face.. she hit him hard
pimpmymail 1 year ago
Well, if it was me I would put some sort of weight sensor into the table - notice that it's easy with this kind of table, you have to check what is the weight of table after she covers the table. Do the math and voila.
mtoh81 1 year ago 5
@mtoh81 yeah I was going to say the same thing. Scale in the table with a transmitter going to him. Oftentimes people will take making a mistake to make it seem more real.
The fact that the helper has to hold the tray instead of keeping it on the table makes this quite a likely scenario.
MsHojat 1 month ago
The real magic here is that at 1:15 he puts his microphone down on the table behind him and keeps walking, yet clearly he is still using a microphone. AMAZING.
dj1123 1 year ago
@dj1123 nubhead, he has his own microphone to his jacket, you foool!
MeandmagiC 1 year ago
@MeandmagiC ...ugh...
dj1123 1 year ago
There are very simple explanations for most of this that fit. I am not saying these are the answers, but they are possibilities. The video we see on the over head is not genuine. Its pre-recorded, shes a plant, they are talking along with the video, not with the actual buttons on the tray. The monkey thing, hardly random. Very playable. I know a very well known magician, on TV, he has a staff of 40. most are plants.
gaijinass 1 year ago
no joke with this one or tricks. He Has a photogarhpic memory hes memorizes books in half an hour just by takeing mental pictures in his mind and recalling them
purpleblake 1 year ago
@purpleblake LOL !!!
pimpmymail 1 year ago
I think I've got it. The frame holds certain amount, in which there will likely only be a layer of one, or at the most, a layer of two buttons. Derren can gauge the level of the buttons based on it's comparison to the inner walls of the frame.
Now comes in the reason for the slap. In order to slap AND hold the frame at the same time, the frame will be held side to side rather than up and down. Because of the, the buttons should shift to one corner as a result of the HARD slap or movement...
vintagegeisha 1 year ago
There is only one thing wrong with what I just said.....Where is the damn scale!!!! Perhaps the table top is the scale and is disguised as a table....Either way D B is incredibly talented and very entertaining!!!!!!
veinsocket 1 year ago
Also, if you took any of those items off the scale, the scale would tell you how many were left on after you took some off. I think this is how he does this particular trick. By weighing the bowl, one button along with the black cloth and resetting the scale back to zero no matter how many you took out the scale will tell you how many are left. If you have 100 buttons in the bowl and you randomly take out 30 DB will know that there are 70 buttons in the bowl so there must be 30 on the tray.
veinsocket 1 year ago
At my old job we had an electronic scale that could count how many nuts or bolts or whatever that we put on the scale. What you had to do was put only one piece onto the scale so the scale could be calibrated to the exact weight, you also had to reset scale back to zero with the 1 item still on there. After that then you could put however many of those items you wanted to and the scale could weigh in ounces or pounds and give you an exact piece count to tell you how many you put on the scale.
veinsocket 1 year ago
its like he's using steroids he slow-mo while he's counting
14yeyo41 1 year ago
Does anyone know what show this is from? Is there a full version?
TheWontrob 1 year ago
he does it with uncoloured coffeebeans aswell! ... so possibly color for the stage to be sure it works out the first time ... by the way - this is a typical compulsive neurotic
counting-behavior ...
raef235ahjx 1 year ago
@Rookmang and Yoda ..dont forget yoda!
aspenaspen 1 year ago
how the fuck does he do that?
TheGilhooligan 1 year ago
I forgot to say that the woman took a extra button and drop it on the tray. He couldnt hear that, but Derren Brown will get the message through his earpiece from one of his staff, if something is going on he cant control.
globe255 1 year ago
A man would normally grasp a bigger amount (because he has bigger hands). The reason why they are coloured, is so he can see very quickly, how many of a certain colour that has been taken, thats why he changed his mind about the amount.
globe255 1 year ago
If you are taking a handful of these buttons and drop them on the tray it has a special sound. A handful of 25 buttons has another sound than 22, so if you have trained the trick for a while you will be able to hear the different sounds. What you also have trained, is that a normal size hand will automatic grasp a certain amount around maybe 22 - 25 buttons, thats why he should see her hands when she entered the stage, simply to measure them being normal size hands for a woman.
globe255 1 year ago
I would quess there are as many people backstage as there are colors available. Then, they all only count their own color, add it up and notify Derren through earpiece, or sign at the opposite side of the podium. He then stops and corrects his estimate. The initial estimate is probably based upon a scale underneath the bowl, they do a little math backstage and signal Derren in some way...
pietorski 1 year ago
@pietorski Nah, what he does is way easier than you think if you know how to read body language. Hes not trying to be a psychic, he will say that himself that it is all trickery.
SomaLFM 1 year ago
@SomaLFM What does body language have to do with this trick??? I will correct myself though and claim that it is all done with a scale underneath the bowl. So as you said.... just a trick, no mental powers.
pietorski 1 year ago
@pietorski your theory is more outlandish than the theory of this being real.
SomaLFM 1 year ago
@pietorski @pietorski your theory is more outlandish than the theory of this being real. This stuff is actually nowhere near as impossible as you think, it is trickery, its not psychic and he will say that himself, its just a trick and can be done quite easily
SomaLFM 1 year ago
Rainman means the devil or satan, lucifer, etc. And Derren here presents many many masonic and satanic signs in his tricks
haloisback 1 year ago
@haloisback oh come on
rushianokun 1 year ago
@haloisback what masonic signs? ... i didnt spot any? Is he a mason you say? ... can you tell me where you saw masonic signs please?
raef235ahjx 1 year ago
cool derren is awsome, he doesent try to fake anything hes not , he explaines most trick later
initabath 2 years ago
She is an accomplice the number of buttons left is easier to count than the number she has transferred. she can see this in the fairly flat bottomed container. Notice she tilts her head and eyes during the slapping routine - this may indicate the number. Also notice she uses her hands to cover up the number of buttons she removes, so if she takes three instead of two it is very hard to tell, so she may be compensating for Darren's bad guess.
chrisc62 2 years ago
Maybe table contains scales and weights remaining buttons. The lady slaps Derren because he needs her to look in opposite direction then he. At that moment crew can signal him resulting count.
tblesa 2 years ago 2
Its a good trick.. obviously the slapping has nothing to do with it, but it was pretty weird that he wanted to get slapped so hard! lol
geniusjas87 2 years ago
and why the blue represnts 10???
why?
Salvatorek 2 years ago
She clearly is cheating...look at 3:16 she grabs 3.
adrastos9 2 years ago
She do not grab 3, she touch 3 but only grabs 2. I could explain how this is done if you like :)
koldtoft 2 years ago
how
Salvatorek 2 years ago
Salvatorek, read TheWasteProject's comment, it explains it.
It's all in the colours of the buttons. One blue button represents 10 buttons, so you just have to count the dark blues, multiply by 10 and then estimate the last couple of buttons that are left.
That's why Derren changed his mind on whether it was 63 or 66 and then 76 or 77.
frankovich213 2 years ago
no the 3rd one stops. It's the red one seperated from the remainder off to the side over there
Lattenkiste 2 years ago
you are absolutely right. She is an accomplice.
Deren gets a close count and she helps making it exact.
@koldtoft : look closely or download the video. I had to watch it several time to see what is happening but two buttons (orange one) are stacked and she starts with two but ends with three
Melpheos1er 2 years ago
She leaves the buttons closest to him till last. He picks out 6 of those and stalls. He then makes sure she takes those last.
Kepahl 2 years ago
OK SLAP ME! QUICK TAKE THE CLOTH OFF!
Sounds like a session with a dominatrix.
JacKn1feSugarTrucK 2 years ago 3
i saw 67
mertentang 2 years ago
if you pay close atention, the lady is taking 3 at a time as some points of the firts attempt
jewtownsfinest 2 years ago
the buttons are colored. look at the dark blue ones. its the law of average. they are well mixed. 1 blue one for every 10 buttons. so 7 blue ones is 70, then a few more than that. you can count that in a flash. then just train to work out where within 10 the buttons are. I think anyway.
TheWasteProject 2 years ago 21
you are right my friend. at least, that's how i do this trick with my friends...
versusthemayor 2 years ago
@TheWasteProject well what happens if a blue is covered by another button, then hes off by 10
Nordb0nk 1 year ago
@TheWasteProject That's a really good observation. But at the same time, if you're guessing within ten buttons, then your rate of success is only 1/10, or 10%. the probability that he guessed correctly on two occasions is then 1/10 X1/10 = 1/100, or 1% at the most. With a 1% probability, it is highly statistically unlikely that he is correct on both guesses. do you think something else might be at work here? or any other explanations? I'm extremely interested, that's for sure...
freestyleskierfasho 1 year ago
@freestyleskierfasho this is what I think. I dont know how the trick is done, but notice how he asked the lady if he could look at her hands. He was probably looking at the size of her hands because each time time she grabbed a handful of buttons. He doesnt look at her, but he can hear how many times she reaches in and takes out buttons. He probably studied different hand sizes with how many buttons can be taken out in a single handful. Also he obviously knows how many buttons are in the bowl.
theosisza 1 year ago
@theosisza That's an interesting Idea. Maybe even a combination of the two methods to approximate?
he was dead on, though. impressive either way
freestyleskierfasho 1 year ago
@TheWasteProject if u watch some of his other videos he sais he can slow down time and take photo memorys he just done that i recon
haste1000 1 year ago
@TheWasteProject JUST train?
peepdeepful 1 week ago
@TheWasteProject ooooo smart
linenlines 1 week ago
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He is skipping numbers while counting. He says them fast so that it sounds natural. ;)
Uber1nsane 2 years ago
ur wrong
sethweb500 2 years ago
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Idiots. The table with the buttons is a scale. The difference in weight is how you get the answer. He's then fed the answer.
doobie7777 2 years ago
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High speed zoom camera from above takes a picture of the buttons, moving does not matter. Computer easily counts the buttons with an image recognition algorithm. Staffers tell him the count to an earpiece in his ear.
linagee 2 years ago
But it would be weird if this trick used sophisticated technology instead of psychological tricks, unlike all his other acts.
gusphraba 2 years ago 3
It's MUCH simpler than that...looking at her hands when she comes on stage and counting, by ear, how many handfuls she puts on the tray gives him an almost exact approximation of the number. It's all presentation from thereon :)
Also, he does not wear an earpiece during the show. Just thought you might want to know that.
bablouche 2 years ago 2
exactly what i was thinking
aarperry 2 years ago
That is just... stupid!
D3w10n 2 years ago
So... the bowl is on a scale. Nice performance, good trick.
ghuegel 2 years ago 2
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he is devil... he is not a human..
ravishethwala 2 years ago
No, he's not human.. he's a god :)
2dark2die 2 years ago
ha ha
ravishethwala 2 years ago
the lady can brag for the rest of her life that she slapped derren brown!
snalijafri 2 years ago 5
took 3 at 5:39
cml89 2 years ago
nah it was only 2 if u watch closely, kinda looks like 3 but if u keep pausing and rewatching and look at what colors are there prior to her pulling them away and then see which ones are gone only 2 were taken
bacardee 2 years ago
real or fake this was entertaining....bravo derren..bravo
GameANDTheory 2 years ago 6
I dont want to comment about all of Derren's tricks.Some of them look really convincing.But this one is not one of them.From the 1st look,She seemed to be a stooge.The way she was counting,didnt look fair.
Stringfreak 2 years ago
Because we've had jack of Hollywood
bradpamp 2 years ago
yep, scales under both the tray and table - mic in his ear - done this one - beauty
bradpamp 2 years ago
ya cuz the cloth wouldn't interfere at all...
I don't get why people just can't understand that this is possible...
GeRmAnIaNhAcKeR 2 years ago
The cloth was removed for a couple of seconds, thats enough, belive me.
To have such skills he has to be autistic (sevancé)
I dont get why poeple just believe everything
posteingang01 2 years ago
Derren says there is no such thing as a photographic memory.
usernamepasswordG 2 years ago
If I were a magician, I'd use scales,yeah. The cloth is only added later. I'm not going to say it's impossible to count them all that fast, but why bother when you can do the same thing with a much simpler and easier solution?
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YesImAnAnimeFan 2 years ago
That's funny, I managed to miss the first minute and a half of the video. O_o Idiot.
culturedjam 2 years ago
The story he gives is that as a kid in school, he was bullied, and his classmates would tip his stuff on the floor, all over the place and whilst he was bending down to pick them up, they'd kick him and rough him up.
Basically he says that he would count all his personal effects that had been tipped onto the floor to detract him from their blows, and from that, he learned how to count things super fast without a quick glance. And having a photographic memory would help.
Sad story, really.
culturedjam 2 years ago
yeah and whats really sad is that you bought it. that was just to distract you from what he was really doing which was actually very simple. notice how the buttons are different colors this is a case of simple probability the dark blue buttons represent 10 buttons so he counts those up which can be done very fast and then estimates how many others may be in the tray.
noahraymond24 2 years ago
Blue can't be 10. There were 7 blue the first time and 8 the 2nd.
Aside from that if there is a 1 blue button out of every 10 buttons then there is only a 10% chance of grabbing a blue button with any given handful approximately.
Quite often you will end up grabbing too many or too few blues. That is probability. You cannot throw down a challenge like this TWICE on probability without a huge chance of being proven wrong.
Lattenkiste 2 years ago
scales under the bowl
piersh 2 years ago
Nope
funincluded 2 years ago
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DigiDrone23 2 years ago
she sure slaps hard.
rolfch1p 2 years ago
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he calculated how much she can take in her hand then listens when she drops them so he will know how much is on the tray thats why he checked he hands first
r060t 2 years ago
Very cool trick. Derren really is a genious.
I do not know how he does it, but I think it is something to do with the colours. There are lots of different colours, and maybe he has trained his brains to see colours in different ways. Like there were 10 blues + 12 yellows = 22. And he got very good photographic memory... or something.
Derren Brown shows us very awesome tricks. I really hope he will do more in the future.
RANKAISIA 2 years ago 7
She forgot her monkey
Murch0Seven 2 years ago 3
people that have doubt about darren brown's feats are simply too lazy and skeptical of the capacity of their OWN mind.
Darren brown is so charged for this one.
johntkucz 2 years ago
am I wrong, or isn't Derren pro-skepticism? He wants you to question what's real and what isn't.
lifeofbob 2 years ago 28
hey lifeofbob. yes, you're totally spot on. I just finished his book and he's VERY interested in (not unlike Richard Dawkins) in encouraging you to seek veracity and find the deceit in illusions, mysticism, New Age, mediums, psychics, all that bs. His show is astounding tricks I think precisely because he's not concealing the fact that he's tricking everyone! But he does it with INCREDIBLE efficacy. And his underlying message is to seek truth (and to unravel hoaxes) cool!
johntkucz 2 years ago 4
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XxXRangerXxX 1 year ago
@lifeofbob i think he would be sceptic about that statement....
just kidding
yes he is
alwinovich 1 year ago
i see alot of people say he must've been reading off a scale...well where is that scale, i didn't see one :)
i honestly think it's more probable that derren is such a wacko that he really can count them with just one good look...wouldn't surprise me.
filip000 3 years ago
Which ever way you look at it, noone can deny that Derren Brown is an absolute LEGEND !
Love him !
xXxXxcozzaxXxXx 3 years ago 3
agreed. he's awesome.
johntkucz 2 years ago 2
Look at 3:16 It looks like she takes three buttons and counts them as two. There is one yellow and what looks like two oranges. It's easier to see earlier in the video that there are two oranges because they overlap. Just me?
chaz2290 3 years ago
ya know if Derren just throws in some wrong numbers to wow the audience. Think about it. If he got it bang straight off, then they would know that it's magic, which is illusion based on trickery & misdirection. If he fumbles they think he's fallible, but genuine, and that's where the magic is.
"The audience knows the truth: the world is simple. It's miserable, solid all the way through. But if you could fool them, even for a second, then you can make them wonder..." - Angiers, The Prestige
KevorkienMD 3 years ago 3
He talks so fast and is so persuading that she cant do anything else than nod :P
cajus22 3 years ago
cnt u just believe it, he is an amazing man! every trick he has ever done in his life cannot b a trick!!!! he just has exeptional talents!!! also, the woman cnt b in on it as he picks a random person out of the adience, who is my grandma by the way!!!!
chillstar2 3 years ago
Yeah oreyt faggot.
myvoiceknowskungfu 3 years ago
what?
He only has to put a scales under the bowl where all the buttons started in.. Its not that hard and he has all the time in the world to think about those tricks. He does it for a living. hellow?
Dennio83 3 years ago
Derren's tricks are not as cheap as that it's the colors of the buttons that does it.
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LovelyYTRocks 2 years ago
well, your obviosly a nice person... NOT!!! why did u hav 2 swear??
chillstar2 2 years ago
its obvius he counted them all cause he stoped counting out loud for a few second then he changed idea on both times
tigros2 3 years ago
He didn't change his mind on the second time.
Petrikau 3 years ago
No but he was between 76 and 77.
myvoiceknowskungfu 3 years ago
okay, 1 effing number is not a BIG difference, is it?
ccdevilleh 3 years ago
Just saying.. He didn't pick ONE number straight away you fucking idiot.
myvoiceknowskungfu 3 years ago
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Watch the lady's hands while she counts, she often pick them of in 3 and counts it as a 2.. fake!
didriksa 3 years ago
I love Derren, he's an awesome showman... but its silly that people accept that he's telling the truth about how he does his "tricks"... even though half his tricks involve him being an admitted "liar", and con man.
Trusting that Derren is being honest about how his tricks work is as absurd as trusting that David Copperfield used actual magical powers to make the statue of liberty disappear.
It makes no difference that this is live, because magicians work live also.
Its all just a show.
hossrex 3 years ago 4
Quite right, hossrex. So many gullible people post on Derren's videos, thinking what they see is some genius psychologist at work, not merely a skilled conjurer.
jdb47games 3 years ago
for it to be a weighing device, the buttons would have to be the exact same size. just a little variation in between each button would easily add up for derren to be around 2 off
crashbandicoot62 3 years ago
I concur that weighing is the logical tool. Harbor Freight sells a scale that can be calibrated to count, for under $20. Ah, but then to have the results displayed somewhere else that he can observe. Still, some good technology. But technology none the less.
ivarhusa 3 years ago
that was my first thought... scales definately...
gtq838 3 years ago
man derren on crack
winter602 3 years ago
why is he so aggitated ?
deadmanavir 3 years ago
because its a hard trick and he got it right on stage?
thegoonist 3 years ago
deadmanavir, he is just pretending to be agitated as part of his misdirection routine to distract the audience from thinking about how the trick was really done.
jdb47games 3 years ago 2
i don't think he is pretending , you can easily tell when someone is "pretending" and when someone is really agitated.
deadmanavir 3 years ago
It depends on how good they are. He is a psychologist, and that is what he is good at.
unknownhuman1 3 years ago
He's clearly pretending to be agitated but it's a good trick nonetheless.
gojaggiesgo 3 years ago
Yea, first you weigh all the buttons and find out how much it is, then you divide by the total amount of buttons to find the weight of one button. So then by knowing the weight of that bowl after she takes the buttons out of it, it is possible to calculate how many buttons are left, so they know how many she took ok? then when she slaps him notice he holds his cheek as though it hurt? thats cos he has a microphone hidden in his sleeve. Thats how he is told the amount of buttons from backstage
Retsam19 3 years ago
stop talking shit
tommyenglish1 3 years ago
oh its ok wikipedia is it? Oh sorry, my mistake, i should done my research then. it MUST be true being on wikipedia. The fact anyone can change what is says on wikipedia is irrelevant LOL
haggard04 3 years ago
if they had something weighing it on the table... how does he get the number before the tray even touches the table?
jamandky 3 years ago
Thats because they know the weight of buttons in that bowl on the table, the one she takes them out of right? so when she takes out the buttons the weight in the bowl drops, by knowing how much it dropped by they can easily work out how many buttons she took out, easy :)
Retsam19 3 years ago
Derren is so awesome!
rhymemachine36 3 years ago
first time she puts 3 hands second time 4 hands..
gogec1 3 years ago
Ppl saying it was a weighing device are correct, this was announced, you can even check it on wikipedia.
Retsam19 3 years ago
what are the links?
clanOT 3 years ago
WOW!!!!on wikipedia!!!thats definitely a reliable source. It`s not like anyone can change the site or something, cause that would just be silly.......
stringbeans18 3 years ago
Wikipedia is referenced, and anyway we all know he isn't a real savant so it has to be a trick, so what's the problem?
Retsam19 3 years ago
go watch more videos
tommyenglish1 3 years ago
lol ok then, NO DOUBT BRUV!!!!, why dont people belive this is real? Is it that hard to believe?
haggard04 3 years ago
yes im afraid its very hard to believe,question is why the heck do you believe,i mean ,come on..
nathanlulu 3 years ago
continues from last coment...---I have seen this tour twice. My sister was the girl who was 'chosen' with the monkey to slap him. Its not a fake.
Jeez, know it all kids these days...
haggard04 3 years ago
Continued from previous comment...--- It doesnt make it much harder when the try is moving as the buttons will moves and slide with each other as the tray moves on its own. so its more or less the same difficulty as before. continues in next comment...---
haggard04 3 years ago
continued from last comment...--- Combined with the fact he knows roughly how many buttons are in a handfull (he can hear how many handfulls are dropped) and his photographic memory, he can tell how many are on the tray. continued in next comment...---
haggard04 3 years ago
continued from last comment...---Then counts them in his head. This is why it takes him a few seconds. Derren also askes them to put a few "handfulls" on the board. Most people will put a few handfulls like he says but the odd person may put half a handfull maybe. contined in next comment...---
haggard04 3 years ago
God you lot. This is not fake at all. All you people saying 'oh its obvious its a 'weighing device' or he covers his ear and has the number read out to him. Think about it its bullshit lol. Derren has proved before that he has a photgraphic memory. He sees the tray of buttons and instaly 'takes a picture' in his head. continues in next comment...---
haggard04 3 years ago
i hate to tell you this my friend,but there is weighing device in table,no doubt about it.
nathanlulu 3 years ago
yeah he does
stoopiddub333 3 years ago
i know the lady who goes up there! she is my best friend's mum! :D
skullgal7 3 years ago
sorry not mum i mean grandma!
skullgal7 3 years ago
This is training of the right brain, not impossible. He performs it very well though.
GyariSan 3 years ago
nope
nathanlulu 3 years ago
The colour of the buttons aided in his recognition of the patterns presented on the tray. Hearing the sound of the buttons is also a part of recognition of patterns. Added to some psychological tricks, how is this not training of the right brain unless this performance is 100% rigged?
GyariSan 3 years ago
it has absolutley nothing to do with phsycology or training of the right brain,because thisTRICK IS DONE BY MEANS OF A WEIGHING DEVICE IN THE TABLE
nathanlulu 3 years ago 2
You sure?
GyariSan 3 years ago
absolutley positive
nathanlulu 3 years ago
so its fake??? help me understand please, than ks
stoopiddub333 3 years ago
wait dude.. it cant be a weighing device in the table, because he tells you the right number even before they go to the table. and it doesn't make sence that he OR she took more buttons on a sertain pull because it seems very imposible to count even a small number of those button accuaratley in a very little time. it only took about 20 seconds for them to count all of them... this shit blows my mind!
stoopiddub333 3 years ago
lol weighing device, try again dumbass nathanalulu likes it in the poo poo
MrSkittelz 3 years ago
Well he changed the answer to 66 from 63, so it's possible that some device in the table told him how many. Seems a bit unbelievable though.
bobdylan23220 3 years ago
well,you must take it up the poo poo because my explanation is correct,so there
nathanlulu 3 years ago
electronic weighing device in table,100percent.
nathanlulu 3 years ago 2
No it is weighing device. It is on the table with the bowl of buttons.
Thats why Derren told her not to drop any buttons, cause he will get it wrong.
as she slaps him, he covers his face(ear) with his hand so that he can recieve the amount of buttons she took away clearly.
This has been explained
sry for english =D
cursevirus 3 years ago 2
glad someone agrees with me
nathanlulu 3 years ago
lol
cursevirus 3 years ago
The trick consists of three things. 1.) training, not of actual counting, but estimating amounts by what you see. The colors obviously help a lot. 2.) hearing the sound of dropping buttons and 3.) the clap in the face. As crazy as it may sound that last thing sort of determines whether it's 66 or 67.
cadabraa 3 years ago
I forgot the 'bump in the back' thing. That also matters a lot. Mainly to check whether the rough estimate is any good. More buttons means someone will be more careful when bumping into his back. It's a great trick. It's not fake for sure, as you can do an experiment yourself and find out that estimating amounts this way works rather well actually.
cadabraa 3 years ago
I think he just looks for the dark purple ones, and multiplies and hopes to play the odds, i bet there is an equal amount of every color button, and his odds were a little of the first time which is why he changed the number, he started to count as soon as she put it on the table which is why he stalled.
1mkusche 3 years ago 2
i bet thats how he does it but with a shit load of practice and some other thing he does, like do this with 2 colors
Hyjal1234 3 years ago
everybody that "sees" her take 3 buttons at 3:04 just wants to see something like that to easily explain how derren did this. but even then he would have only been 1-2 off. the mind sees what it wants.
if you watch closely she takes 2 every time.
mdf607 3 years ago
no she defenitely took 3 sometimes and im not even a cynic. i like DB but this one was fake. she didnt have to take 3 but some1 else already explained how its done.
gold019 3 years ago
There are three buttons under her hand, yet the third one was counted before so it doesn't matter. She's not an accomplice her.
cadabraa 3 years ago
sometimes she took three at a time; more than once I thought I saw that happening, but I guess it was too much of a riot to see through that; If I'm mistaken, then I'm mistaken...
fericire7 3 years ago
I definitely saw this too.
bobdylan23220 3 years ago
i cant beleive that not one of you guessed it correctly?!?!?!
i guess im just smarter than i thought-
antwantowner 3 years ago
hmm... i think i saw the lady take 3 of them some times anyone else see that?
Deathgun94 3 years ago
i saw her take one sometimes
stuart782496 3 years ago
i also saw she took 3 pieces, on 3:04
sfrde 3 years ago
nah she took only 2
chivemince 3 years ago
are you blind? she took 3, look better!