Killer 7 - Target 06: Lion - Ending: Option 1

[NitroClown15]

What the fuuuuuuuuck??

[Furyaki12]

I know who the Heaven Smiles are now.

They're the people who attempted to make sense of this game and went insane.

[MegamanZero359]

so wait, did garcian have the power to shape shift..... cuz everyone of the civilians would talk about them differently and as if they remembered them from somwhere else

[coldersnake]

@FireDragonKaryu it's supposed that the moon loading screen alludes to many cultures that suppose that the full moon is related to being completely insane, (also related to violence) and given garcian's personality disorder, maybe it's a way to say that he is messed up

[silentlambda]

The last of the Heaven Smiles is in the back... you know, aside from those ones you left outside just now.

[FireDragonKaryu]

Played this game years ago, to me it has the single best storyline of ANY game before or since. Loved it.

One thing though, I never understood the moon loading screens - the way it "vibrates" and distorts the sound etc. Does anyone have a clue what part it plays in the whole thing?

[MysteryEzekude]

@FireDragonKaryu It's probably just a red herring.

[selemanecu]

Oh and also you made your fuckin' decision Emir thank you and have a nice day!^^

[TheAzureKing]

run red man run o.o

[Stiglitz51]

I think I've got it Garcian became a demi-god as seen from his green eyes at the end. Harman and Kun Lan also had unattural eye colour. Kun Lan had red eyes and Harman had grey. So Garcian got to shape the world to his own liking sorta how Harman and Kun Lan also did. That's my take on it

[BluPhoeniX7]

NO. DO NOT SAVE THIS FILE.

[selemanecu]

so that's why the blood machine doesn't works because Harman is sleeping and by the look of his clothes I'd say he was the one who enchached the power of the killer seven by making bloodserum via mentioned machine for them

[TheMeleeMan321]

so wait which is the good or bad ending?

[GermanZ5]

@TheMeleeMan321 There is no "good" or "bad" ending. both end in war and the cycle starts again

[formerJIM33333]

Somewhat random question out of curiosity: do channels 10 and 11 on the TV ever do anything?

[Jompe94]

@formerJIM33333

No, they are there for historical purposes. old US tv's only had 12 channels and an A + B AV channels

it's just a detail

[luckykid7777]

This game hardly makes sense...

[eltragaalmas2010]

THIS IS THE WORST ENDING, EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BAlOHAZADO]

@C666O That's an insult to SUDA51's ability, then.

[frenchbook]

why can't you see the smiles anymore?

[NOACCEPTANCE772]

you have to kill matsuken because he is kun lans  successor.

[OscarMaris]

@C666O He's more like the alejandro jodorowsky of video games

[bumpistheman]

I remember playing this as a kid.

Those smile's laughs...

So God-damned haunting!

[Momentum139]

That WOULD be an awesome boss fight. With Travis fighting all of the killer7 at once - or fighting them simultaneously. However, there was "the battle royale" thing that still troubles me, I'm not really able to forgive Suda for that after the BS that followed it. (I didn't need to fight 12 people at once, I wanted 12 "mini bosses).

And it'd never happen anyway. Honestly though, I figured Travis was going to get killed by Dan when he was still a cop (Travis the Ghost, anyone?)

[Slinker19]

"So.. which will you choose, your own country or watch our retribution, your fucken decision." Words of EPICNESS!

[InternetLad]

clemence's car probably uses a lot of gas. . .

[ciscofire99]

hey omegaevolution could u tell me the whats that ending song where Harman asks

have u awaking from u'r nightmare part

[neon6]

It's called Angel's Despair on the OST.

[ciscofire99]

@neon6 thanks it's a badass song, even if it's short

[Legion2000]

Best Game EVER!

[AndrewSpriter]

what I realize now is that although you shoot Kun Lan's right hand, he seems to catch and drop the bullet with his left hand.

[RedflameBlazze9]

it would be tight if one of the boss battles in NMH2 was the killer 7 vs travis touchdown. now that would be an intense boss fight

[SonicSoldier93]

i want that to happen so bad i was actually thinking that yesterday. travis touchdown vs killer 7 in NMH2

[OMGWTFROFLCOPTERBBQ]

@RedflameBlazze9

Such a display of badassery could not be contained, without the universe imploding.

[SOLIDOLDSNAKE1]

The end?

We dont know yet. Suda is either throwing more insaness at us, or maybe hes got somthing thats going to blow out mother fucking minds.

To be continued!.?

[thps48]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that flag being sniped on the select menu was Japan's. I could've referred to my saved game, but I'm not sure if I have to since I played Lion a billion times because it was easier than the easiest part of the easiest level of this game...

[L1qu1dSnak3]

I think it's abstract, like it's just showing that because of you you're taking out one country (US or Japan).

[lnc0]

Actualy the flag isn't of anything.. kinda looks like NMH's flag if memory serves

But i think the symbolism is as L1qu1dSnak3 says, the fact your taking out one of the countries the hidden flag represents which one your taking out

[MilquetoastThug]

Actually, if you reload the save after the mission, it reveals it to be the battleship island flag, which is oddly evocative of either the japan's rising sun flag (meaning japan triumphed)... or of a bunch of nuclear missiles devastating japan. (the lines being the trails of the missiles and America triumphing).

[Shadowysights]

No more heroes is Kill bill on steriods....thats a prime example.

[Combiner81]

Was that God Harman laying on the floor?

[HMiste]

Actually, a combination of ALL THREE.

DON'T ATTEMPT TO MAKE SENSE OF THIS GAME.

[der1a]

1:09

haahaBATMAN!

(1960's theme song)*

[SOLIDOLDSNAKE1]

Suda 51 can make more insane things if he so wishes though...

[dmanoroc2]

best game ever

[MyEggIsBoiled]

I just wish I had the ambition to move on with this game. It's more like one of those games I'd pay to see being played rather than play it myself. I get so... Frustrated and frightened. It's abolutely amazing, though.

[WarhawkDrier]

NMH and K7 are in completely different styles, so I doubt Suda would do that. K7 is mostly serious and mysterious, but NMH has tons of humor and over-the-topness.

[HMiste]

Portal and Half-Life exist in the same universe, and they both have different styles. Portal is humourous, HL is serious. So why can't K7 and NMH exist on the same realm?

[WarhawkDrier]

True, true. Portal, however, has a serious plot beyond the comedy, something that I couldn't find in NMH. Nothing wrong with either, but still. It would indeed be awesome for them to be in the same universe, though, since you can never know what Suda does next.

[TheGoodWillSpreader]

well news fro a few people on neoseeker there is a guy who magnaged to put all this plot in order, and belive me its more than the eye meets

[WarhawkDrier]

Suda 51 intended for the plot to be open-ended. There's no "True" plot and no "wrong" plot. It's all up the gamer to decide.

[L1qu1dSnak3]

Well form what I understood is that the plot is very much straight but only multiple play throughs and paying attention to everything will let you figure it out.

[DRCAM122]

They can't based on the infromatio given to us, Killer 7 Exists in a world that has banned all Transcommunication, in other words No internet. No More heroes Exists in a world where Internet is not banned. And Suda has already said that NMH has nothing to do with his past games.

[HMiste]

When does it say the Internet hasn't been banned in NMH? And if so, don't put it past Travis to do illegal things for his hentai.

[Momentum139]

Suda has a thing for "bullshitting" in an epic, awesome way.

[Brock2097]

garcie's car has a nice paint job. wonder if he kept some of Ulmeyda's leftovers on there.

[Axen901]

I was somewhat expecting KAEDE to come out and say "Too bad there won't be a sequel."

[Recuo]

BACKWARDS. Played NMH first, huh?

[matthewlax13]

hahah its just like NMH there MIGHT be another killer 7. In 2012, get ready for... KILLER 9! hahah

[Kirinet]

Oh no, Iwazaru? D: Kun?! Noooo...

[DAK075]

I like your interpertation of how Harmann is peace and how Kun Lan is chaos and that they will forever fight each other in a never-ending cycle.

[kome360]

More like Harman is bloodthirsty Chaos and Kun Lan is twisted Order, and now they've switched sides.

Just like playing a new chess game...

[lnc0]

I agree with kome360

Hence why Harman can only kill, and Kun Lan can only heal

[darkfalcon3274]

does playing killer8 have any effect on the story?

[hellblood9]

doubt it, it's just very hard.

[raddudeguy]

U sure Geno didn't destroy Japan? lol

[Stratoschalo]

jajajajaja XD smash kingdom

[Axen901]

Too bad he did it before Brawl was released! Or did he create a time paradox?

[XIgbarXIIIAxel]

Whatever happened to Clemence? =X

[omegaevolution]

I believe he continued with Ulmeyda's legacy on Texas?... we will never know lol

[comettheflames]

actually he got assassinated. by linda, that's when garcian took clemence's car as a sort of gift. Clemence actually, didn't do any better than Ulmeyda, and was assassinated because of it.

[kingzombiejo]

OO how do you know?

[comettheflames]

it's on a variety of sites, including the Killer7's main site.

[kingzombiejo]

cool thanks man thats kinda the stuff you would ya know want to know in the game

[dankuro97]

@omegaevolution if capcom bring the lisence to suda 51 possinbly we'll know

[ConfusedAndAwesome]

@omegaevolution Unless there was a hidden cliffhanger in a certain ending..

[VpowerSP]

5:11 ...That was awesome xD.