lol, thanks for the vid.. BUT.. I was wondering about the Cambrian/Pre-Cambrian issue he was trying to broach.. Just because it was a separate era doesn't mean that it couldn't be used to contest your theory if he was trying to say that the extremely high levels of oxygen saturation would make the existence of any life-forms an impossibility. I don't know if that's what he was saying since he was cut off..?
@hamnose if no one answered your question, it should be in the top of the related videos column called "Re: The Origin of Life made easy " which was replying to potholer54's video called "The Origin of Life made easy". you can view all of potholer54's videos by clicking on his name next to this video, and then clicking "uploads" on his profile page.
Been many many experiments of taking the right parts put in the atmosphere of the first days and adding electricty and no life was ever form. Theres now a search for another answer. If all the right parts are together in the right atmosphere with the correct amount of electricty added happen then the odds of atleast 220 specific proteins in the right order, which is the minimum for life is 1 in 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. and thats just half of what would have to happen.
Those are numbers being pulled out of the sky by creatonists and they are assuming the cell we see today is the same cell that was the first cell. That is not the case, early "life" would have been much simpler.
You are also assuming life only gets one chance to start which it doesn't, it would have happened all over the planet for millions of years.
This video explains about abiogenesis a lot better than I can in 500 chars.
No those number are real, Ill break out my biochem textbook from last year for ya if you need a reference. Its hard to find a scientist who thinks the cell was less complex at some point. If the theory happend it probably did happen many times until everything clicked, youre right. The science of today does not show anything tangible that would make the "mud puddle" a probable answer. Its most likely another way. The other possible ways besides intelligent design is a big ??
Did you watch the video.. Life starts with a self replicating single strand of very small RNA most likely, everything else, including the surroundings of it.
I wasn't able to focus on the video. I was digging the music too much. "...the vast majority of chemical bounds will break down in water." That was funny but damn what a bunch of boring blah blah blah. I'm sucked back into listening to this song. I heard this in Black Orpheus but it is so similar to an old Mexican song. Thanks Potholer.
Thanks for breaking it down, I didn't get some of it, but I got most of it. Much appreciated information, I'll be sure not to let myself get misinformed.
the part about ''most chemical components dissolving in water'' or something like that is very, VERY wrong... it can dissolve a lot of stuff, true, but most of them have polar bonds; table salt for example (NaCl)... if it isn't polar at all, there's pretty much no chance it can really dissolve ;sugar for instance (C6H12 O6 is it's chemical formula if I remember right)
Wow, mormans dont believe in drinking alcohol, i thought that was bad enough, now we'll have religions where people dont believe they have to drink water, oh well, at least that religion will last only 3 days lol. Their truly is no end to creationist stupidity is their. I bet this dude was pissed off when he heard about the latest abiogenisis experiments with RNA, these creationists must be shitting themselves right now lol. excellent vid
well, actually, if you know a bit about the chemical properties of at least some stuff, you'll know that certain molecules can be dissolved only by solvants having specific caracteristics
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If it's so easy for nucleotides to assemble and for life to spontaneously arise...why is it that new life forms are not spontaneously popping up today? or for that matter 2000 years ago or a million years ago?
Its not. Its clearly the result of a series of different chemical steps.
=why is it that new life forms are not spontaneously popping up today?=
We don't know that they aren't, around hydrothermal vents or somewhere similar. But the chance of any new life surviving is remote, because the Earth is filled with existing life forms in every possible crevice. Any new life form would be called =lunch=.
One small thing I'm curious about; wouldn't "pre-Cambrian rocks" (what the creationist said) be non-Cambrian rocks, and therefore have nothing to do with Cambrian rocks (other than merely be below them)?
Notice that he said *pre*-Cambrian (though that's a huge gap even for abiogenesis, which I think would make his point more uselss...).
LOL. " this water sounds awful! If it dissolves every amino acid and poly nucleotide it comes it to contact with I'll make sure I never go near it. Imagine drinking the stuff! it would dissolve every protein and DNA strand in your body!"
Ohh man.....GOD IS GETTING ME....HE GOT MY LEGGS....IM MELTING AHHHH\
On the subject tho, brilliant vidoeos
Christins shut up!, there are many more things in this world, we are not the only ones here, I wont waste my life praising some crap, Stop saying crap that is outdated and that has been dissproved, you're done, you just wont let it go
"It is unfortunate to see this absolute demolishment of arguments" I don't think so, it's not unfortunate. I think it's the best thing we can see if we are trying to expose assertion without evidence as the nonsense it is.
But water really is dangerous, just look up "the dangers of hydrogen peroxide" and "oxygen hydroxide". This stuff is deadly. It can poison you, if ingested in large quantities. can cause deadly burns if come in contact in it's gas form. and if you amerse your self in it, while it's in it's frozen state, it can stop your heart.
it's one of the main chemicals used in many chemicals plants, and farmers spray the stuff on their produce, to promote it's growth.
When did the term 'evil' get meaning? around the year 300, when the bible was written. Instead of trying to fight us with weak arguments to prove us wrong, you might update the system to allow it to grow. Quantum Physics embraces to concept of a God, not as a person, but as the fabric the building block of life are made of Read up on the Planck Scale and how it penetrates everything much like Jezus and the bible state God does. Google What the Bleep do we know!? And read the book. Opened my eyes
wonder if your claims might be faulty. We 'evolutionists' did over and over again, striving to move onwards to gaining knowledge about our world. Ever evolving into a better version of it's previous self. Where as your faith doesn't at all strife for knowledge, but for power and following the history of the religion itself it's more a selfdestructing system with a lifespan aslong as you can make people fear the devil. Why fear evil?
Is it me, or did I learn most this in elementary school? I don't know how well the state of the educational system is where ever your from. Here in the Netherlands we learn these things from age 7-15 over and over again digging deeper and deeper. Oil-Water=don't mix. Water-Alcohol=Mix Alcohol-Oil=Dissolve put extremely easy. I dunno what you are on if you beleave years of experimenting, adjusting, retesting and reconfirming at the slightest hint of contraditing data as being a brainfart and...
I reply to tell you off! There is nothing 'retarded' about Christians! It's those kind of silly generalisations that make creationist equate atheism with "evolutionism" or claim that evolution is a "faith"
I've argued scripture with evangelicals before. It's so easy to point to contradictions in the gospel its...well...laughable.
You would think that as casual as they are in accepting and dismissing these contradictions, they wouldn't try so hard to nit-pick at science (especially since they're almost always wrong).
Ugh...I just spent five minutes trying to think like a creationist after having this thought.
If there are any telepaths nearby (which I highly doubt, since psychic powers are equally bumpkis as IDiocy), I would like to apologize for the volume of the psychic screams I emitted at the 'universal solvent' crap.
From what I understand, that's an ancient alchemy claim: Yes, water's a good solvent. It's my understanding 4-elements fans thought really, really pure water would become a universal solvent. So, how old is that? Ptolemy?
As far as I remember there were problems with his assumptions about atmospheric gases. I don't know the details, but Miller himself agreed that his experiments were seriously flawed, and they haven't been cited by experimental microbiologists in decades. Except by creationists, of course.
Try watching his explanations for Noah's Arc. Epically stupid. They're Golden Crocoduck award worthy, because his mangling of evolutionary theory and science in general is truly staggering.
First off, this is about thevinerhyme video this references. It starts with a very impressive introduction and then opens up in his living room. Hilarious...
Next, It reads on wiki that Dr. Orgel died on Oct 27th 2007. Sad...
Last, in the movie "The Wizard of Oz" the Wicked Witch of the East (West whatever) dissolves immediately after having water thrown on her which totally proves water will kill you and disolve you, if you happen to be a green-skinned witch.
Its funny - thevinerhyme seems to do response videos often - but for some reason he has not made a response to this response to his response on this subject - anybody want to tell me why, or let me know if I'm missing something?
maybe he realised creationist sites are total shit and he based his life on a lie and he ran into his room crying like a little girl and hasnt come out?
No it's true! That rain stuff dissolves things. Watch S h rek there's a scene that proves my point. See? Cartoons are smarter than your science and scientific method! FOOL!
I would apologise for my fellow Americans, but I can't stand the willful stupidity either. Is there any chance that there is an opening in England - or Greece for that matter, I really like Greece - for an American ex-patriot that actually LIKES to think? To borrow from Kent Hovind, "These people are DUMB. ON. PURPOSE". I already spell apologise correctly, I'd fit in in about three weeks, give or take. How about it?
That's does it. i'm never letting that nasty "water" stuff in my body again. i guess it's purely the will of God that i've lived these 31 years drinking, bathing, swimming the stuff. Thank you God for letting me live long enough to see the sin of water.
great response. it's clear he was only taking in (from your video) what he wanted to hear, not what he actually WAS hearing. he wanted to prove you wrong so badly, that CREATED arguments to his favor.
The set of videos that traces our origins from the Big Bang to the migration out of Africa is over. But in response to various requests I will continue to post videos on this channel on science-related issues. The next one will be The Ice Age Made Easy, then Climate Change Made Easy. I am also doing some more satirical vids on my other channel, potholer54debunks. Please subscribe to both!
No. I was a devout Christian for most of my life, and very happy as such. My only gripe with God is that he doesn't exist. I never "turned away from God". I just assessed my theology in a critical way and found that it was ultimately based on no objective evidence whatsoever. Good job trying to twist my desire to use reason into an implication that I'm being duplicitous about my beliefs though.
People die for charismatic leaders all the time, many of whom turn out to be evil bastards. That doesn't make them divine. Additionally, there's evidence to suggest that the early church didn't even intend to portray Jesus as a real person. Check out "The God Who Wasn't There" for the history of your religion. It'd likely surprise you.
Why have so many of history's greatest thinkers been believers? Have you ever wondered why thousands of intelligent scientists, living and dead, have been men and women of great faith?
No, I haven't. Back int eh day the church was the only institution with sufficient wealth to back scientific study. And because one is gifted in one area doesn't preclude one from being wrong in another. Besides, nowadays most scientists AREN'T believers!
Do you really see that as a valid argument? So if the lunatic on the corner claims to be the second coming 2601 times you'll believe him and reject your Bible?
Your second statement is an argumentum ad populum fallacy. The Bible has sold 5-6 billion copies in 2000 years, but the Harry Potter series has sold 400 million copies in just 10 years. That doesn't lend credibility to Harry Potter being true.
Watch my "Made easy" series of videos. They are set at the intelligence level of 12-year-olds, so if you don't understand the explanations of how our world came to be, let me know.
You've begun repeating your rhetoric. Am I debate a real person or a shell script?
As for the origin of the universe, I take far greater comfort in an honest "I don't know. Let's see if we can find out!" than in simply accepting an answer that flies in the face of evidence. To accept a comfortable fable without question would be intellectually dishonest.
I live far more consistently now than I did when I was a theist. And I don't define myself as "anti-GOD" any more than I would "anti-Santa Claus". I don't focus my life around things that don't exist. That's your gig.
Isn't it somewhat arrogant to suggest that countless churches and people (including men like Abraham Lincoln) are all radically in error in their view of the Bible?
How do you account for the origin of life considering the irreducible complexity of its essential components?
You're using the argument from consequences logical fallacy. Besides, having a focus in one's life can obviously be beneficial and motivating. That doesn't make the focus true. Think about it.
"The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma." -Abraham Lincoln
As for your second question, that argument was destroyed in one of the earlier segments of this video. Why don't you try watching it and then come back if you still have questions?
How do you explain the fact that a single, relatively uneducated and virtually untraveled man, dead at age 33, radically changed lives and society to this day?
A man didn't. A religion spread by pre-industrial people with no critical thinking skills did. It's happened many many times in human history. Christianity isn't the first, nor will it be the last.
God created time. The statement of Genesis, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth," is making reference to the creation of time. The reason that things like heat death, the expansion of the universe, and the depletion of hydrogen do not apply to God is because He is outside of time.
Interesting assertions, though they are completely unfalsifiable and backed up only by an ancient book of known dubious origin. More importantly though, you didn't actually address my comment at all.
Again, you're not even responding to what I'm saying. Are you intending to reply to someone else's comment and accidentally putting it under mine?
To refute YOUR argument, it violates both of your rules. It's a tautology, and therefore logically invalid. Your claim that God has always existed is asserted without support (you merely assume it to be true). That doesn't meet the burden of proof at all.
It could also be argued that "always existed" and "outside of time" are contradictory as well.
The Bible informs us that time is a dimension that God created, into which man was subjected. It even tells us that one day time will no longer exist. That will be called "eternity." God Himself dwells outside of the dimension He created (2 Timothy 1:9, Titus 1:2). He dwells in eternity and is not subject to time. God spoke history before it came into being. He can move through time as a man flips through a history book.
Yet another logical error. By definition, "before time" is a meaningless statement. And again, your merely assert this to be so, with nothing to back it up except for you dubious book, whose only claim to validity is that it declares itself to be valid. Google "kiss Hank's ass" to see how you look outside the bubble of your illusion.
Since absolutely no Bible prophecy has ever failed (and there are hundreds), how can one realistically remain unconvinced that the Bible is of Divine origin?
Again, it's mostly post hoc rationalizations of vague, ambiguous "predictions". The rest are self-fulfilling, with people who were already aware of the scripture making a deliberate effort to bring them to pass, or to at least claim that they did. If Jesus raised the dead and performed other miracles, why are there no accounts of his life that aren't themselves based on scriptural accounts written decades after his death by people who weren't there?
If you understood the Second Law of Thermodynamics you wouldn't be troubling me with this tired canard. The Second Law is quite explicit in that it applies to a closed system. The Earth is not a closed system. It receives energy from the Sun. Thus, entropy can decrease in one small part of the system as long as the total entropy of the system increases. Which it does. Again, your religious sources of scientific information are MISLEADING YOU!
Absolutely. I live to better the situation of all around me. I find that to be a FAR more rewarding and noble pursuit than merely worshipping an invisible sky daddy. I'm actually a more moral person now than I was when I was a believer.
there are witches to be burnt, equal rights to be protested against, scientific theories to deem heretical, research into cures to be halted, and children's minds to be fed crap just as yours was. the rest of the wretches (think "amazing grace") need you out there in the big bad scary world. grab a torch & find a gay, or throw rocks at the day ball, or what ever you people do to waste your lives away.
cry me a polluted river full of your atheist monkey wannabe tears!
it is perverted people like you who are duped by the homosexually challenged people who lie and pretend they happy so now theu assume they are gay as you label them lol
that is one of many loads of lies fed to you as a drone minion of satan!
please , please ? you are the one with the please! how sad!
homosexually challenged? Is that even a term? That is so insulting to people who are homosexual. I bet you believe it can be cured? Maybe you should ask the late Rev. Ted Haggard how it's done.
I think I may have peed a little from laughing.
cloudstone123 1 week ago
Great debunking video! Thanks for sharing your comments!
roccobaroccoSC 2 months ago
@unknowwonder yes, me too. Oh, and great music
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@potholer54
What happened to the original "The Origin of Life made easy" video?
I can't find it on your page.
Tyjohnable 4 months ago
STAY OUT OF THE WATER!
DrMonkeyForAFoot 5 months ago
Will someone tell this guy it primordial not premordial.
estragon9 9 months ago
Nice music...
DrSpooglemon 9 months ago
lol, thanks for the vid.. BUT.. I was wondering about the Cambrian/Pre-Cambrian issue he was trying to broach.. Just because it was a separate era doesn't mean that it couldn't be used to contest your theory if he was trying to say that the extremely high levels of oxygen saturation would make the existence of any life-forms an impossibility. I don't know if that's what he was saying since he was cut off..?
xESOTERlC 1 year ago
@xESOTERlC watch his video, it should be at the top of the list of related videos.
TheDarkFalcon 1 year ago
@TheDarkFalcon Yeah, I am workin my way through them at a slow pace.
xESOTERlC 1 year ago
uh hello, life water...key word life
blocpartyband07 1 year ago
Ownage to some easy listening jazz guitar....Like it!
rogan71 1 year ago
this is hilarious...
Whatsername1389able 1 year ago
ajajjajaa the creationist, always using anything to defend their holly book of the Bronze Age.
Water dissolves the chemical bonds? ajajajajaj Bullshit, and the quote-mining is typical from creationist.
Biology130 1 year ago
What is this video a response to. And what was that video a response to? Anybody?
hamnose 1 year ago
@hamnose if no one answered your question, it should be in the top of the related videos column called "Re: The Origin of Life made easy " which was replying to potholer54's video called "The Origin of Life made easy". you can view all of potholer54's videos by clicking on his name next to this video, and then clicking "uploads" on his profile page.
TheDarkFalcon 1 year ago
@TheDarkFalcon Oh yeah thanks. I noticed it just after posting this question. I should have removed the post.
hamnose 1 year ago
This must be why you feel lighter in water - it's disolving you! Shun the water! Shuuuun!
PanNarran 1 year ago
Dihydrogen monoxcide, can be real dangerous stuff.
It can burn you, freeze you, I wont even go into the effects on inhaling it, and now it dissolves things as well? Its worse then we thought.
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I know some creationists can say some silly things, but wow, this guy. A whole other level of silly. Critical thinking, he needs to learn it.
Creationists, by and large I don't say reign in one of your own, this time you might want to take him to one side and have a chat about this.
Knightyme 1 year ago
Oh great, I just drank some water, goodbye cruel world : (
martysaysso 1 year ago 2
3:20
Even with my pre-GCSE education in chemistry, I know the difference between hydrolysis and hydration.
theneonfire 2 years ago
Been many many experiments of taking the right parts put in the atmosphere of the first days and adding electricty and no life was ever form. Theres now a search for another answer. If all the right parts are together in the right atmosphere with the correct amount of electricty added happen then the odds of atleast 220 specific proteins in the right order, which is the minimum for life is 1 in 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. and thats just half of what would have to happen.
titans797979 2 years ago
Those are numbers being pulled out of the sky by creatonists and they are assuming the cell we see today is the same cell that was the first cell. That is not the case, early "life" would have been much simpler.
You are also assuming life only gets one chance to start which it doesn't, it would have happened all over the planet for millions of years.
This video explains about abiogenesis a lot better than I can in 500 chars.
watch?v=XhWds7djuWo
I recommend his other videos too.
Korkzor 2 years ago
No those number are real, Ill break out my biochem textbook from last year for ya if you need a reference. Its hard to find a scientist who thinks the cell was less complex at some point. If the theory happend it probably did happen many times until everything clicked, youre right. The science of today does not show anything tangible that would make the "mud puddle" a probable answer. Its most likely another way. The other possible ways besides intelligent design is a big ??
titans797979 2 years ago
Did you watch the video.. Life starts with a self replicating single strand of very small RNA most likely, everything else, including the surroundings of it.
Intelligent design is a two-step approach.
Find something evolution apparently can't explain.
Conclude that a designer did it, no more proof needed.
And I wouldn't excactly trust text-books in the US-school in that sense.
And it is not hard to find a scientist, go look at the video like I told you.
Korkzor 2 years ago
I wasn't able to focus on the video. I was digging the music too much. "...the vast majority of chemical bounds will break down in water." That was funny but damn what a bunch of boring blah blah blah. I'm sucked back into listening to this song. I heard this in Black Orpheus but it is so similar to an old Mexican song. Thanks Potholer.
hamnose 2 years ago
I was taught about water as a universal solvent in school. I does dissolve so much, breaks down so much.
Of course, we were also taught to use this analogy very carefully as it is no more than an analogy. And this was Grade 6 (if memory serves) :) .
achtungcircus 2 years ago
I always feel a little part of me was missing every time I go swimming. Now I know why.
copperblade 2 years ago 2
Fwawahahaaa...! I'm... melting... the water in my cells - I'm breaking down into... amino-acids..
Excellent video, sir.
anglicantian 2 years ago 4
Thanks for breaking it down, I didn't get some of it, but I got most of it. Much appreciated information, I'll be sure not to let myself get misinformed.
PaperSoapy 2 years ago
the part about ''most chemical components dissolving in water'' or something like that is very, VERY wrong... it can dissolve a lot of stuff, true, but most of them have polar bonds; table salt for example (NaCl)... if it isn't polar at all, there's pretty much no chance it can really dissolve ;sugar for instance (C6H12 O6 is it's chemical formula if I remember right)
dapanzy 2 years ago
Hilarious.
grits011 2 years ago
OMFG............water is a universal solvent???? damn!!!
i am never going swimming agian......i dont wanna melt down into goo.!!!!
thanks my dear creationist moron friend......u saved my life!! :) ...i have finally turned to jesus ;)
sunlitekid01 2 years ago 3
Wow, mormans dont believe in drinking alcohol, i thought that was bad enough, now we'll have religions where people dont believe they have to drink water, oh well, at least that religion will last only 3 days lol. Their truly is no end to creationist stupidity is their. I bet this dude was pissed off when he heard about the latest abiogenisis experiments with RNA, these creationists must be shitting themselves right now lol. excellent vid
01101100d 2 years ago
This video always cheers me up, love it, keep it up potholer =D
JohnnyKubark 2 years ago
ahahha good job portholer, i don't think he knows what the title "universal solvent" entails
NINJUGGALOTUS 2 years ago 2
honestly, I don't even think such a thing as an universal solvent is even possible
dapanzy 2 years ago
well... you're right if you are implying that the term is very misleading
NINJUGGALOTUS 2 years ago
well, actually, if you know a bit about the chemical properties of at least some stuff, you'll know that certain molecules can be dissolved only by solvants having specific caracteristics
dapanzy 2 years ago
Wow... Water dissolving DNA and proteins..
To put that into perspective, if people were allowed to teach children this, then suddenly freedom of speech would be a danger to society.
The cornerstone of democracy would be the very danger to its survival.
Thats why proper education is the only defense we'll ever really have against ourselves. Now and forever.
820423 2 years ago 4
Very nice, owned.
diotecktec2 2 years ago 3
It's great to call people out on their inaccuracies.
ErichoTTA 2 years ago 5
Water does have solvent properties. It also has some other interesting properties: Expands when frozen and floats as a solid.
JustinBringit 2 years ago 7
Did anyone else think of the following line when they heard the 'universal solvant' argument?
"I'm melting! I'm melting! Ohhhhh... What a world, what a world!"
unknownwonder 2 years ago 13
Can my daughters and sons mary your children. just kidding.
ooglebydoogleby 2 years ago 6
HAH! Asshole got PWND!
thompac321 2 years ago 5
Great video!
Anphanax 2 years ago
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If it's so easy for nucleotides to assemble and for life to spontaneously arise...why is it that new life forms are not spontaneously popping up today? or for that matter 2000 years ago or a million years ago?
tetekofa 2 years ago
=If it's so easy for nucleotides to assemble=
Its not. Its clearly the result of a series of different chemical steps.
=why is it that new life forms are not spontaneously popping up today?=
We don't know that they aren't, around hydrothermal vents or somewhere similar. But the chance of any new life surviving is remote, because the Earth is filled with existing life forms in every possible crevice. Any new life form would be called =lunch=.
potholer54 2 years ago 27
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ionz75 2 years ago 7
Genius, purely genius. I saw you on Best0fScience and I decided to check you out. I have not been let down.
sgtbigs22 2 years ago 6
lmao 3:43 brilliant. Great vids. looking faward to more.
philthy122 2 years ago
"Sorry to tear this to shreds, but your information is irrelevant, out of date, wrong and disingenuous -- in that order."
This is why I love potholer. Priceless. Especially when you imagine him actually saying it.
ThinkAbout1t 3 years ago 7
I would much rather have a potholer54's autograph then any movie star.
MotionFur 2 years ago 10
Whoops, never mind. I got impatient, my mistake.
ctressle 3 years ago
One small thing I'm curious about; wouldn't "pre-Cambrian rocks" (what the creationist said) be non-Cambrian rocks, and therefore have nothing to do with Cambrian rocks (other than merely be below them)?
Notice that he said *pre*-Cambrian (though that's a huge gap even for abiogenesis, which I think would make his point more uselss...).
ctressle 3 years ago
"imagine drinking the stuff" brilliant! also the atmospheric guitar was exquisite.
Oo9999999makes1 3 years ago 2
LOL. " this water sounds awful! If it dissolves every amino acid and poly nucleotide it comes it to contact with I'll make sure I never go near it. Imagine drinking the stuff! it would dissolve every protein and DNA strand in your body!"
Imagine drinking the stuff indeed! lol
Leeroy002 3 years ago
Ohh man.....GOD IS GETTING ME....HE GOT MY LEGGS....IM MELTING AHHHH\
On the subject tho, brilliant vidoeos
Christins shut up!, there are many more things in this world, we are not the only ones here, I wont waste my life praising some crap, Stop saying crap that is outdated and that has been dissproved, you're done, you just wont let it go
Prodigyexam12 3 years ago
I am scared. I read there is water vapor in the air. I can feel it tearing me appart. I am disolving!!! HELP ME. AHHHH
ahelplessgoat 3 years ago
"It is unfortunate to see this absolute demolishment of arguments" I don't think so, it's not unfortunate. I think it's the best thing we can see if we are trying to expose assertion without evidence as the nonsense it is.
GowanBray 3 years ago
Owned
toadexleen 3 years ago 2
But water really is dangerous, just look up "the dangers of hydrogen peroxide" and "oxygen hydroxide". This stuff is deadly. It can poison you, if ingested in large quantities. can cause deadly burns if come in contact in it's gas form. and if you amerse your self in it, while it's in it's frozen state, it can stop your heart.
it's one of the main chemicals used in many chemicals plants, and farmers spray the stuff on their produce, to promote it's growth.
it's a conspiracy I tell you
:-)
eyallev 3 years ago
The correct name for water is, Dihydrogen monoxcide because it is covalently bonded. Hydogen peroxcide is H0 or H202 both ioniclly bonded.
ahelplessgoat 3 years ago 2
Wow. That was great, how he didn't understand how water worked. Really, it's like he doesn't know what a "nonpolar molecule" is.
PrometheusWithLight 3 years ago 2
Prometheus: Water is polar though. I don't understand your criticism.
infidelguy 3 years ago
Fatty acids have a nonpolar hydrocarbon chain. This nonpolar part won't mix with the polar solution of water, so it forms into bubbles.
PrometheusWithLight 3 years ago
When did the term 'evil' get meaning? around the year 300, when the bible was written. Instead of trying to fight us with weak arguments to prove us wrong, you might update the system to allow it to grow. Quantum Physics embraces to concept of a God, not as a person, but as the fabric the building block of life are made of Read up on the Planck Scale and how it penetrates everything much like Jezus and the bible state God does. Google What the Bleep do we know!? And read the book. Opened my eyes
Defhrone 3 years ago
wonder if your claims might be faulty. We 'evolutionists' did over and over again, striving to move onwards to gaining knowledge about our world. Ever evolving into a better version of it's previous self. Where as your faith doesn't at all strife for knowledge, but for power and following the history of the religion itself it's more a selfdestructing system with a lifespan aslong as you can make people fear the devil. Why fear evil?
Defhrone 3 years ago
Is it me, or did I learn most this in elementary school? I don't know how well the state of the educational system is where ever your from. Here in the Netherlands we learn these things from age 7-15 over and over again digging deeper and deeper. Oil-Water=don't mix. Water-Alcohol=Mix Alcohol-Oil=Dissolve put extremely easy. I dunno what you are on if you beleave years of experimenting, adjusting, retesting and reconfirming at the slightest hint of contraditing data as being a brainfart and...
Defhrone 3 years ago
is "left handed molecule" refering to an R or an S molecule?
collieh1 3 years ago
Jeez! Are they all retards, the christians on YouTube? I haven't seen anyone yet who's not retarded!
winterstellar 3 years ago
I reply to tell you off! There is nothing 'retarded' about Christians! It's those kind of silly generalisations that make creationist equate atheism with "evolutionism" or claim that evolution is a "faith"
naughty person! don't do that again!
PatRibsey 3 years ago
he sounds like Dale from King of the Hill - "you dont know who this is, but i know where you live"
etoposide 3 years ago 2
Watching this I just realized;
I've argued scripture with evangelicals before. It's so easy to point to contradictions in the gospel its...well...laughable.
You would think that as casual as they are in accepting and dismissing these contradictions, they wouldn't try so hard to nit-pick at science (especially since they're almost always wrong).
Ugh...I just spent five minutes trying to think like a creationist after having this thought.
I need a drink and to go to sleep to recover.
TheTruePooka 3 years ago 9
owned
Oracurax 3 years ago 2
You sir are my hero! I salute you!
EntinludeX 3 years ago 2
If there are any telepaths nearby (which I highly doubt, since psychic powers are equally bumpkis as IDiocy), I would like to apologize for the volume of the psychic screams I emitted at the 'universal solvent' crap.
From what I understand, that's an ancient alchemy claim: Yes, water's a good solvent. It's my understanding 4-elements fans thought really, really pure water would become a universal solvent. So, how old is that? Ptolemy?
TheBronzeDog 3 years ago
It might be really picky of me, but you seem to care if you get things right in your videos...
Only 19 of the amino acids can be left-handed; Glycine is achiral.
fielsjd 3 years ago 6
"Only 19 of the amino acids can be left-handed; Glycine is achiral."
Thanks, I didn't know that. It's an important point because I see this argument come up time and again.
potholer54 3 years ago 4
Creationists refuse to let the truth sink into their heads. Just accept the fact that science is right and creation is total bullshit.
sciencenerd213 3 years ago 12
Excuse my language but...
What the FUCK DO FISH LIVE IN????
Damn creationists are thick
666daedsidog 3 years ago 11
Ha! This mole-featured phallic device should hide in a dark corner and slit his wrists.
cornflakeclusters 3 years ago
How were miller's experiments wrong?
FangFiftyFive 3 years ago
"How were miller's experiments wrong?"
As far as I remember there were problems with his assumptions about atmospheric gases. I don't know the details, but Miller himself agreed that his experiments were seriously flawed, and they haven't been cited by experimental microbiologists in decades. Except by creationists, of course.
potholer54 3 years ago 2
Hahaha, over a year now and still no response from thevinerhyme. Ownage anyone?
markBRMA 3 years ago 26
Try watching his explanations for Noah's Arc. Epically stupid. They're Golden Crocoduck award worthy, because his mangling of evolutionary theory and science in general is truly staggering.
Disgod12 3 years ago 5
they are more "atheist nightmare" worthy ( the banana thing )!!! LOL!!!
arielwollinger 3 years ago
So that's how everything died during the flood. THEY ALL DISSOLVED! It makes perfect sense.
CBGB42 3 years ago 7
PURE PWNAGE!!!
arielwollinger 3 years ago 2
Holy.. "So, when it rains, everything dissolves?" LMAO! Wow! That's some point, huh? LOL!
harshm2u 3 years ago 7
my friends mate drank a glass of water once and he melted just like the witch in wizard of oz.
AlmightyFRACTA 3 years ago 16
Someone should tell Michael Phelps that his polynucleotide bonds are breaking down...
middlekk 3 years ago 9
First off, this is about thevinerhyme video this references. It starts with a very impressive introduction and then opens up in his living room. Hilarious...
Next, It reads on wiki that Dr. Orgel died on Oct 27th 2007. Sad...
Last, in the movie "The Wizard of Oz" the Wicked Witch of the East (West whatever) dissolves immediately after having water thrown on her which totally proves water will kill you and disolve you, if you happen to be a green-skinned witch.
Lionspoint 3 years ago
Its funny - thevinerhyme seems to do response videos often - but for some reason he has not made a response to this response to his response on this subject - anybody want to tell me why, or let me know if I'm missing something?
naughtypagan72 3 years ago
Maybe he's taken enough of a beating on the subject for one lifetime?
Yeeksquilack 3 years ago
maybe he realised creationist sites are total shit and he based his life on a lie and he ran into his room crying like a little girl and hasnt come out?
AlmightyFRACTA 3 years ago 4
LOOOL NICE!
Diviniteee 3 years ago
No it's true! That rain stuff dissolves things. Watch S h rek there's a scene that proves my point. See? Cartoons are smarter than your science and scientific method! FOOL!
Really though, excellently done as usual!
Ethrock 3 years ago
"This 'water' sounds awful!"
that was funny
bamboo4tameshigiri 3 years ago
I love the fact that this video has over 2x more views than the video it's responding to.
HotbunsLalla 3 years ago
I would apologise for my fellow Americans, but I can't stand the willful stupidity either. Is there any chance that there is an opening in England - or Greece for that matter, I really like Greece - for an American ex-patriot that actually LIKES to think? To borrow from Kent Hovind, "These people are DUMB. ON. PURPOSE". I already spell apologise correctly, I'd fit in in about three weeks, give or take. How about it?
shookings 3 years ago 3
I like his creationist maths millions of times more oxygen back then than what we know so the atmosphere was 10,000%? oxyegen, hang on :)
Polygamy4Five 3 years ago
That's does it. i'm never letting that nasty "water" stuff in my body again. i guess it's purely the will of God that i've lived these 31 years drinking, bathing, swimming the stuff. Thank you God for letting me live long enough to see the sin of water.
thookerov 3 years ago
great response. it's clear he was only taking in (from your video) what he wanted to hear, not what he actually WAS hearing. he wanted to prove you wrong so badly, that CREATED arguments to his favor.
cottonear 3 years ago 2
get that into you bitch!
23rice23 3 years ago
Great video series. I take it it's over now? :(
CKtheFat 3 years ago
"Great video series. I take it it's over now? :("
The set of videos that traces our origins from the Big Bang to the migration out of Africa is over. But in response to various requests I will continue to post videos on this channel on science-related issues. The next one will be The Ice Age Made Easy, then Climate Change Made Easy. I am also doing some more satirical vids on my other channel, potholer54debunks. Please subscribe to both!
potholer54 3 years ago
u go buddy
gevin02 3 years ago
brilliant video potholor, keep them coming.
cornflakeclusters 3 years ago
with this water substance I could rule the world!
4sight 3 years ago 2
The bit about the water was the best bit. Wow, guess someone has watched the Wizard of Oz too many times. :)
LordZentei 3 years ago
potholer, this is why I love you.
Darkel08 3 years ago
The proceses of cellular respiration (C6H12O6 (aq) + 6O2 (g) → 6CO2 (g) + 6H2O) Glycolisis (Glucose + 2 NAD+ + 2 Pi + 2 ADP → 2 pyruvate + 2 NADH + 2 ATP +2H+ + 2 H2O), and the Citric acid cycle allways come with wather as waste product.
If wther dmmaged aminoacids at all, then we would disolve ourselves as we breath or eath.
iluan666 3 years ago
Owned!
What did he respond to this video?
I'm REALLY interested to hear that :)
TheOats 3 years ago 2
"What did he respond to this video?"
He didn't
potholer54 3 years ago
Too bad.
TheOats 3 years ago
Too bad indeed, I would just quietly withdraw too if I were him.
finalcloud13 3 years ago
And this explains why thevinerhyme has "potholer54" tatooed on his ass.
hanzo138 3 years ago 2
Pwn3d. That was hilarious. I love it when hillbillies try to be all sciency. Great video!
farslayer9 3 years ago
Wow. Epic Fail. Nice work potholder!
lanc4268 3 years ago
OMG ITS RAINING RIGHT NOW
Am i ganna die?
An0nym0usPunK0930 3 years ago 5
The bible says the world is flat
nemesisnick66 3 years ago
you do not know the bible if you beleieve the bible says the world is flat
lookwithlove 3 years ago
Is it possible that your unbelief in God is actually an unwillingness to submit to Him?
lookwithlove 3 years ago
No. I was a devout Christian for most of my life, and very happy as such. My only gripe with God is that he doesn't exist. I never "turned away from God". I just assessed my theology in a critical way and found that it was ultimately based on no objective evidence whatsoever. Good job trying to twist my desire to use reason into an implication that I'm being duplicitous about my beliefs though.
Datan0de 3 years ago
How do you reconcile the existence of human intelligence with naturalism and the Law of Entropy?
lookwithlove 3 years ago
See my previous comment. Local entropy can decrease as long as the total entropy of the system is increasing. And it is.
Datan0de 3 years ago
If Jesus' resurrection was faked, why would twelve intelligent men (Jesus' disciples) have died for what they knew to be a lie?
lookwithlove 3 years ago
People die for charismatic leaders all the time, many of whom turn out to be evil bastards. That doesn't make them divine. Additionally, there's evidence to suggest that the early church didn't even intend to portray Jesus as a real person. Check out "The God Who Wasn't There" for the history of your religion. It'd likely surprise you.
Datan0de 3 years ago
Are you aware that the Old Testament alone claims to be God's inspired word at least 2600 times?
Did you know that the Bible has been the number one best-seller every year since the 1436 invention of the Gutenberg printing press?
lookwithlove 3 years ago
Why have so many of history's greatest thinkers been believers? Have you ever wondered why thousands of intelligent scientists, living and dead, have been men and women of great faith?
lookwithlove 3 years ago
No, I haven't. Back int eh day the church was the only institution with sufficient wealth to back scientific study. And because one is gifted in one area doesn't preclude one from being wrong in another. Besides, nowadays most scientists AREN'T believers!
Datan0de 3 years ago
Do you really see that as a valid argument? So if the lunatic on the corner claims to be the second coming 2601 times you'll believe him and reject your Bible?
Your second statement is an argumentum ad populum fallacy. The Bible has sold 5-6 billion copies in 2000 years, but the Harry Potter series has sold 400 million copies in just 10 years. That doesn't lend credibility to Harry Potter being true.
Datan0de 3 years ago
Wouldn't it make better sense, even pragmatically, to live as though the God of the Bible does exist than as though He doesn't?
lookwithlove 3 years ago
I assume you're referring to Pascal's Wager? The flaws in his reasoning are well known. Google it for yourself.
I find that it makes better sense to live honestly. I can't choose what I believe or don't believe. Either the evidence is convincing or it isn't.
Datan0de 3 years ago
How was it possible for the Old Testament prophet Isaiah to have predicted the virgin birth of Jesus (Isaiah 7:14) 700 years before it occurred?
lookwithlove 3 years ago
How do you explain the high degree of design and order in the universe?
lookwithlove 3 years ago
Watch my "Made easy" series of videos. They are set at the intelligence level of 12-year-olds, so if you don't understand the explanations of how our world came to be, let me know.
potholer54 3 years ago
I do know how the world came to be ! lol
it is you who spreads lies through your video propaganda films!
preaching your humanism is futile!
you are a devils advocate!
a 12 year old can tell you are a fool who believes you are related to a banana!lol because darwin told you so!
lookwithlove 3 years ago
You've begun repeating your rhetoric. Am I debate a real person or a shell script?
As for the origin of the universe, I take far greater comfort in an honest "I don't know. Let's see if we can find out!" than in simply accepting an answer that flies in the face of evidence. To accept a comfortable fable without question would be intellectually dishonest.
Datan0de 3 years ago
Are you able to live consistently with your present anti-GOD worldview?
lookwithlove 3 years ago
I live far more consistently now than I did when I was a theist. And I don't define myself as "anti-GOD" any more than I would "anti-Santa Claus". I don't focus my life around things that don't exist. That's your gig.
Datan0de 3 years ago
If the Bible is not true, why is it so universally regarded as the 'Good Book'?
lookwithlove 3 years ago
Isn't it somewhat arrogant to suggest that countless churches and people (including men like Abraham Lincoln) are all radically in error in their view of the Bible?
How do you account for the origin of life considering the irreducible complexity of its essential components?
lookwithlove 3 years ago
On what basis can the Bible (interpreted as per historic Christian orthodoxy) be challenged as a sole, final truth-standard (Galatians 1:8)?
lookwithlove 3 years ago
How do you explain the radically changed lives of so many Christian believers down through history?
lookwithlove 3 years ago
You're using the argument from consequences logical fallacy. Besides, having a focus in one's life can obviously be beneficial and motivating. That doesn't make the focus true. Think about it.
Datan0de 3 years ago
"The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma." -Abraham Lincoln
As for your second question, that argument was destroyed in one of the earlier segments of this video. Why don't you try watching it and then come back if you still have questions?
Datan0de 3 years ago
Good P.R., generally generated by people who pick and choose which verses to subscribe to and which to ignore.
Datan0de 3 years ago
Watch the video series. I believe it covers that thoroughly. If that's not sufficient, check out just about any video by cdk007.
Datan0de 3 years ago
How do you explain the fact that a single, relatively uneducated and virtually untraveled man, dead at age 33, radically changed lives and society to this day?
lookwithlove 3 years ago
A man didn't. A religion spread by pre-industrial people with no critical thinking skills did. It's happened many many times in human history. Christianity isn't the first, nor will it be the last.
Datan0de 3 years ago
science depends on the human logic!which is limited.
therefore all data is taken on faith to be believed! and data is taken in faith is a personal choice!
lookwithlove 3 years ago
God created time. The statement of Genesis, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth," is making reference to the creation of time. The reason that things like heat death, the expansion of the universe, and the depletion of hydrogen do not apply to God is because He is outside of time.
lookwithlove 3 years ago
Interesting assertions, though they are completely unfalsifiable and backed up only by an ancient book of known dubious origin. More importantly though, you didn't actually address my comment at all.
Datan0de 3 years ago
There are only two ways to refute an argument:
Show that it is logically invalid
Show that at least one of the premises is false.
God, as creator of time, is outside of time. Since therefore He has no beginning in time, He has always existed, so doesn't need a cause.
lookwithlove 3 years ago
Again, you're not even responding to what I'm saying. Are you intending to reply to someone else's comment and accidentally putting it under mine?
To refute YOUR argument, it violates both of your rules. It's a tautology, and therefore logically invalid. Your claim that God has always existed is asserted without support (you merely assume it to be true). That doesn't meet the burden of proof at all.
It could also be argued that "always existed" and "outside of time" are contradictory as well.
Datan0de 3 years ago
The Bible informs us that time is a dimension that God created, into which man was subjected. It even tells us that one day time will no longer exist. That will be called "eternity." God Himself dwells outside of the dimension He created (2 Timothy 1:9, Titus 1:2). He dwells in eternity and is not subject to time. God spoke history before it came into being. He can move through time as a man flips through a history book.
lookwithlove 3 years ago
Yet another logical error. By definition, "before time" is a meaningless statement. And again, your merely assert this to be so, with nothing to back it up except for you dubious book, whose only claim to validity is that it declares itself to be valid. Google "kiss Hank's ass" to see how you look outside the bubble of your illusion.
Datan0de 3 years ago
Since absolutely no Bible prophecy has ever failed (and there are hundreds), how can one realistically remain unconvinced that the Bible is of Divine origin?
lookwithlove 3 years ago
Again, it's mostly post hoc rationalizations of vague, ambiguous "predictions". The rest are self-fulfilling, with people who were already aware of the scripture making a deliberate effort to bring them to pass, or to at least claim that they did. If Jesus raised the dead and performed other miracles, why are there no accounts of his life that aren't themselves based on scriptural accounts written decades after his death by people who weren't there?
Datan0de 3 years ago
How can the Second Law of Thermodynamics be reconciled with progressive, naturalistic evolutionary theory?
lookwithlove 3 years ago
If you understood the Second Law of Thermodynamics you wouldn't be troubling me with this tired canard. The Second Law is quite explicit in that it applies to a closed system. The Earth is not a closed system. It receives energy from the Sun. Thus, entropy can decrease in one small part of the system as long as the total entropy of the system increases. Which it does. Again, your religious sources of scientific information are MISLEADING YOU!
Datan0de 3 years ago
Does your present worldview provide you with an adequate sense of meaning and purpose?
lookwithlove 3 years ago
Absolutely. I live to better the situation of all around me. I find that to be a FAR more rewarding and noble pursuit than merely worshipping an invisible sky daddy. I'm actually a more moral person now than I was when I was a believer.
Datan0de 3 years ago
dear lookwithlove
sort of an ironic name, but anywho...
please refrain from further banter.
there are witches to be burnt, equal rights to be protested against, scientific theories to deem heretical, research into cures to be halted, and children's minds to be fed crap just as yours was. the rest of the wretches (think "amazing grace") need you out there in the big bad scary world. grab a torch & find a gay, or throw rocks at the day ball, or what ever you people do to waste your lives away.
ytsejam6891 3 years ago
hey slapnuts!
cry me a polluted river full of your atheist monkey wannabe tears!
it is perverted people like you who are duped by the homosexually challenged people who lie and pretend they happy so now theu assume they are gay as you label them lol
that is one of many loads of lies fed to you as a drone minion of satan!
please , please ? you are the one with the please! how sad!
go learn your self before you plead with me!
lookwithlove 3 years ago
homosexually challenged? Is that even a term? That is so insulting to people who are homosexual. I bet you believe it can be cured? Maybe you should ask the late Rev. Ted Haggard how it's done.
Fataalex 3 years ago
If a person is 'homosexually challenged', wouldn't that mean... that they're straight?
Yeeksquilack 3 years ago 3
haha such a sad attempt at disproving evolution he made
nemesisnick66 3 years ago
your creature comforts will not be there for you when your time comes!
lookwithlove 3 years ago