Shia kalma is right Proven by other Sects from their books(checkitout)

[str99frk]

this big lie and misguiding people .after1400 year . addition in kalima

[1977hero]

@str99frk we have been guiding and saving you out of your religion made up by cruel and hypocrite kings... wake up

[bebe414]

shia and sunni were all muslim brothers and sister we should all love mohammed and and his family

[DudeNeutral]

i checked quran i didnt find any surah called shakir? ......i see a reference to shakir 5:55 .. i think its not in the mainstream quran probably in some shia quran ...

[raza2nice]

@DudeNeutral FROM UR ANSWER I CAN UNDERSTAND HOW IGNORANT UR IT IS USELESS TO TALK TO ILLETRATE PEOPLE LIKE U

[sh3rri1]

Out of 124000 Prophets a blood related Successor was chosen the blood lineage of every single Prophet stays and if you were to go astray and say a companion was chosen then obviously you have gone with a public vote when we all know only Allah(swt) chooses a successor TRUE?

[MrBiggyv]

another thing i would like tp clear up is the visiting of the shia community to the tomb of the killer of umr ibn khattab on the day of the death of umr. if you would like the two bodies of islam to unite, why disrespect one of the most beloved men to us in the worst possible way-commemorating his death? just something to think about.

[MrBiggyv]

 please do not take this in offence but sunni islam is orthadox islam and thats what the nabi (s.a.w) ordered from us. i also wish to mention that term "followers of ma'aawia" is totally slandering the nature and history of sunni islam in a silent manner.. a quality of the shia community throughout the century's. we do not go into your neighbourhoods and convert your people to sunni islam, so why do that to us?

[MrBiggyv]

with no disrespect to the shia body of muslims, whom i do not regard as kaffir, i feel that these quranic verses are too broad to be interpreted to a single event that cannot be 100% proven. who said the story where ali gave his ring to a poor man while making sujood is fact and not made up by the shia body of muslims to justify their case?

[613avraham]

@MrBiggyv Tafsir Asbab al Nuzul, Written by Imam al-Wahidi (d. 468/1075),

(Your guardian can be only Allah; and His messenger and those who believe…) [5:55]. Said Jabir ibn ‘Abd Allah: “‘Abd Allah ibn Sallam went to the Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace, and said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, some people from Banu Qurayzah and Banu’l-Nadir have deserted us and swore not to keep our company. And we cannot keep the company of your Companions due to the distance separating us’.

[613avraham]

@613avraham Continuation: He then complained about the bad treatment he received from the Jews, and so this verse was revealed. When the Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, read to him, he said: ‘We accept Allah, His Messenger and the believers as guardians’ ”. Al-Kalbi related something close to this and added that the end of the verse was revealed about ‘Ali ibn Abi Talib, for he gave his ring to a beggar while he was bowing during prayer.

[613avraham]

@613avraham Abu Bakr al-Tamimi informed us> ‘Abd Allah ibn Muhammad ibn Ja‘far> al-Husayn ibn Muhammad ibn Abi Hurayrah> ‘Abd Allah ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhab> Muhammad ibn al-Aswad> Muhammad ibn Marwan> Muhammad ibn al-Sa’ib> Abu Salih> Ibn ‘Abbas who said: “Accompanied by a group of believers from amongst his people, ‘Abd Allah ibn Sallam came to see the Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace.

[613avraham]

@613avraham They said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, our houses are very far and we have no assembly or a place in which we can gather for chatting. When our people saw that we believed in Allah and His Messenger and confirmed his call, they eschewed us and vowed never to keep our company, speak with us or marry from or into us. This has proved too hard for us’.

[613avraham]

@613avraham The Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace, replied: ‘(Your guardian can be only Allah; and His messenger and those who believe)’, up to the end of the verse. Then the Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace, went out to the mosque. Some people were standing in prayer while others were bowing. He saw a beggar in the mosque and he asked him: ‘Did you get something from anyone?’ The beggar replied: ‘Yes, I got a ring of gold’.

[613avraham]

@613avraham The Prophet asked him: ‘Who gave it to you?’ The beggar said: ‘That person who is standing in prayer’, and he pointed to ‘Ali ibn Abi Talib. The Prophet asked him again: ‘In which position did he give it to you?’ The beggar said: ‘He gave it to me while bowing in prayer’.

[613avraham]

@613avraham The Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace, said ‘Allah is the greatest!’ and then recited (And whoso taketh Allah and His messenger and those who believe for guardian (will know that), lo! the party of Allah, they are the victorious)” [5:56].

[666kaz999]

could you please clear something up for me. I am not trying to be rude, but am simply asking a question. If Ali ra gave his ring to a poor man during prayer, does this not mean that his full concentration was not towards Allah swt?

"Successful indeed are the believers. Those who offer their Salat (prayers) with all solemnity and full submissiveness" [Noble Quran 23:1-2]

thanks.

[janisar87]

@666kaz999 allah showed the importance of his wali thats why its proven from quran and ahadees

but you are denying the verse of quran....

BY SAYING THAT THIS VERSE WAS NOT REVEALED AS FOR IT MENTIONED..

[666kaz999]

@janisar87 does the verse not simply say "Your (real) friends are (no less than) Allah, His Messenger, and the Believers, those who establish regular prayers and pay charity, and they bow down humbly (in worship)." what does this have to do with praying and paying charity at the same time? would the Quran not contradict itself if in Surah 23:1-2 it says offer salat with FULL submissiveness and on the other hand it says give charity while praying?

[666kaz999]

@janisar87 why would Ali (ra) think about worldly things when praying to Allah? why could he not give charity before/after Salat? also when giving Zakat you go out and give to the poor, you do not wait for them to come to you.. i no the last point is not the most valid but do you understand my point? and finaly, who in the history of islam, after Ali (ra) aparently, has done this? do you, or anyone you know, give charity in Salat? sorry for all the questions, i am just trying to understand :)

[GamesboyX]

@666kaz999 brother that poor man was disturbing him.

[GamesboyX]

@666kaz999 brother that poor man was disturbing him. and if you think that his concentration was not owards the Allah then why Allah said this in Quran that "those who believe, and those who keep up prayers and pay the poor--rate while they bow". anyone who pay the poor rate while he\she bow, will do not have fully concentrated towards ALLAH.

[666kaz999]

@GamesboyX i dont think the interpretation implies 'while' they bow firstly. Secondly if it did then we would all be doing it and it would be sunnah. If it did say 'while' bowing the quran would contradict itself in the sense that it says 'pray with full submissivness' because we would concentrate on paying charity. I dont mind answering some questions but the reason I commented was so someone could answer mine first. thank you :)

[666kaz999]

@GamesboyX Arabic is a difficult language for non arabic speaking people. You should look at multiple translations and also read the ayats before and after it in order to understand the context in which it was meant.

[1977hero]

@666kaz999 let me reply you on this one..both Imam Ali (as) and the beggar were concentrated towards Allah swt... The begger asking for sustenance from Allah and Imam Ali (as) in prayer... so they met... on the way... during which Imam Ali removed his ring and gave it to him while in Rukuh in prayer and the begger received it from the (wasila) hand of Allah..

[666kaz999]

@1977hero " The begger asking for sustenance from Allah and Imam Ali (as) in prayer," what? The begger was firstly "concentrated towards Allah swt" and now the begger is concentrated on both? Who is he praying to? If this is not the Sunnah of the Prophet (saw) then why is Ali (ra) doing it? And why is nobody else doing it today? You began speaking metaphorically and suddenly it becomes a physical action.. for me its just another illogical story to try and increase the status of Ali (ra).

[1977hero]

Imam Ali(as) was in Rukuwhile offering prayers at that time. Imam Ali(as) called his attention to his finger, on which was a ring. The beggar came forward and promptly drew Imam Ali(as) ring from his finger and left the place. In other words Imam Ali ibn Abu Talib (as) did not wait till his prayers were finished. He (as) was so particular to give alms, that while he was still praying he told the beggar by gesture that he might pull out his ring, sell it and spend the money to meet his needs.

[666kaz999]

@1977hero In other words, Ali (ra) did not wait till he finished his prayers, he instead put part of his attention towards this beggar, instead of fully concentrating on Allah (swt). Yes giving charity is good, but in the middle of prayer? Why not before or after prayer? Who else follows this 'Sunnah' today? Why was it necessary to give the ring DURING prayer? These stories try and elevate the status of Ali (ra) but instead they do nothing but insult him!

[1977hero]

@666kaz999 yes, there is a difference the way we prays and the infallible pray.... keep your believe that Ali a.s prayer was void but we wont buy that

[666kaz999]

@1977hero That is your answer? No, I am not saying it is void, I am saying it didnt happen! Why would a Muslim break his concentration in prayer to give charity? Its just another shia story. Oh and please tell me more about the way 'infallibles' pray. Ive never heard of this before. I would like to know how infallibles pray. Do they pray the same number of rakats as other Muslims? Where is your proof that 'infallibles' pray different to Muslims? or is this another story? Please explain

[1977hero]

@666kaz999 no point arguing with you... you are mentioned in verse: When it is said to them: "Believe as the others believe (in wilayat of imam Ali a.s) :" They (hypocrites) say: "Shall we believe as the fools (salman farsi, abu zar, miqdaat) believe?" Nay, of a surety they are the fools, but they do not know.

[666kaz999]

@1977hero Please, I can also do this with you:

[Quran 3:7] He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book: In it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book: others are allegorical. But those in whose hearts is perversity (THE SHIA) follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its hidden meanings except God..

And this is clearly what you people do!

[1977hero]

@666kaz999 follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its hidden meanings except God..??? why did'nt you read further.... mmmmm......... here it is: except Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: "We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord:" and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding.

[1977hero]

@666kaz999 it is very clear this verse is to imams who have knowledge of the book... not what you and myself have. lets read further... ''and I am trusty.' Said he who possessed knowledge of the Book, 'I will bring it to thee, before ever thy glance returns to thee. 27:40...this verse was about asif bin barkhia who brought the throne of the queen to suleimaan a.s.

[1977hero]

@1977hero and to proof imam Ali a.s full knowledge of the quran refer to this verse:say: sufficient is Allah as witness between me and you (muhammad pbuh) and he with whom is the knowledge of the Book (imam Ali a.s)" (13:43).

[666kaz999]

@1977hero 13:43 is not proof of Ali (ra) having knowledge of the book, why do you give the wrong translation? its not 'he with whom..' it is 'and whosoever hath knowledge of the Scripture', it says WHOSOEVER, NOT HE, stop trying to twist the verses of the Quran to prove your point!! And regarding Surah 3:7, my point was to not look into the hidden meanings, this is what the shia do, their religion is based on hidden meanings. Actually the rest of the verse only backsup my point further

[1977hero]

@666kaz999 there are hidden meanings... but only those who are pure shall touch it."....which none shall touch but those who are clean..(56:79)." now use your interpretation and give out the copies of quran to the infidels as you normally does.. you sure contradicts urselves.. 'touch' here means to understand.. in arabic the word is 'mus'.. and Allah mentioned 'quran' but somewhere else its simply 'the book' only aal e muhammad (pbut) knws the hidden meaning.. thus we knows more than you!

[666kaz999]

@1977hero The verse says that there are two types of verses, clear and unclear. The perverse people follow the unclear verses searching for hidden meanings. NOBODY knows the hidden meanings except Allah (swt). Men of understanding accept the whole Quran without searching for hidden meanings because this is what the perverse people do. The men of understanding follow the clear verses. The unclear verses relate to the clear verses, but you people will try and find hidden meaning in them.

[666kaz999]

And your twisted interpretation of the Quran only shows your limited knowledge. You have not answered a single question of mine, only giving your stories with no evidence to support them. Typical conversation with a shia, you end giving no knowledge and learning nothing, read what I have written again and if you have an answer to any of it, please reply, otherwise dont. And you still havent told me how infallibles pray. I think I have made my point quite clear. May Allah (swt) guide you.

[raza2nice]

@666kaz999 IF IT IS INSULT THEN WHY DID ALLAH PRAISE HIM AND DECLARED HIM WALI OF ALL PEOPLE THIS AYAT WAS NOT WRITTEN BY US IT IS WRITTEN BY ALLAH U NEED TO UNDERSTAND

[raza2nice]

@666kaz999 THIS STORY IS NOT MADE BY US IT IS ALLAH WHO HAS INCREASED THE STATUS OF H ALI.GO AND ASK ALLAH

[666kaz999]

@raza2nice Firstly my friend, you dont need to type in capital letters all the time. Secondly, 'GO AND ASK ALLAH'???? Think about what you are saying. Thirdly, I am saying that Ali (ra) had a very high status, but not as high as you place him. The Quran says nothing about imamate, I have had a long conversation on this video, read it and try and understand my thinking. Finally, I am saying it is an insult because Ali (ra) would never break his concentration during prayer, but you say he did.

[1977hero]

@666kaz999 google

[1977hero]

@666kaz999 one more thing... let us know your doctrine of Tauheed.. what your believe in god is... we heard except shia islam, sunni sects gives attributes to Allah and even claims Allah have body parts.... pls clarify this... this is core of believes... we muslims believes in an omnipresent god.. pls explain what is your god doing with a leg in hell... and having a shin... and a face... sitting on a throne... pls clarify... isnt that worst than Christianity?

[1977hero]

@1977hero now let me come to prophethood after tauheed... your sect is known to find faults in Allah's apostle Muhammad (pbuh) you even come to say he lied... he forgets... and he hallucinates (your umar's sunnah) now what will you say of the quran decended on a man a character according to how he was.. .. p.s you also claim he listened to music from little girls when abu bakr entered his house... its sahih aint it your 100% authentic text.... shame..

[666kaz999]

@1977hero 56:79 does not say the clean ones know hidden meanings. This would be a contradiction. We are having a discussion about imamate in the Quran, typical of you to try and change the topic. Can you provide a clear verse about imamate, all you have done is give me stories and talk about double meaning verses, attributing everything to Ali (ra). Why speak about hadith, I havent once mentioned your hadith. Tell me about the imams that call to the hell fire, Quran 28:41. Try and stay on topic.

[1977hero]

@666kaz999 what about tauheed.. and nabuwat... forget about imamat first... lets start from these 2 then i will go through with you for imamat..

[666kaz999]

@1977hero The main difference between the Sunni school of thought and shia is imamate. Dont worry, think about my questions. Peace.

[arsalan7005]

Why only Hazrat Ali is Wali and why not Walayat is for Hazrat Abu Bakar,Hazrat Umer and Hazrat Usman?????????

Only bcs he is the relative of Hazrat Muhammad(S.A.W.W)????? Toba

Why not the khilafat is for Shuhday e Badar????

And the thousands of other companins of Hazrat Muhammad (S.A.W.W)

[shabirfirdaus]

So Ali is your Imam and guardian and friend of Allah. Agreed. Now lets do the following

Testify there is no god but Allah and Muhammed is his messenger

Pray 5 times

Pay charity for poor and orphans

Fast

Go to Hajj.

Is there anything more your guardian/imam/friend of Allah asked you to do???

[waziryaseen]

What do you mean Ali (as) ,you mean Ali (r.a) a messenger????

[Pakistan786ification]

@waziryaseen No he was Imam not a messenger but was nearly equal to him.

[waziryaseen]

@Pakistan786ification Bro he was a khalifa not a messenger...not equal also

[iglebanon]

@waziryaseen its ALI (A.S) whats so wrong about that, your sending salaam to him, your saying alaihi al salaam

when sum1 says salaam 3alaikum, u say wa 3alaikum al salaam. Same thing brother. And no he was not a messenger, he was the best after the Prophet s.a.a.w.w.

[naveed9797]

There are so many places where allah says that none except him is worthy and mohammed SAW is his messenger...

i will just quote a couple refrences...

Your God is One God; there is no god except Him, the Beneficent, the Merciful. (2:163)

Muhammad is not the father of any man among you, but he is the messenger of Allah and the Seal of the Prophets; and Allah is Aware of all things. (33:40)

Muhammad is but a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) have passed away before him..... (3:144)

[foryouwithlove2008]

Jazzakallah Very nice, very informative great work Mashaallah!

[sincereislam]

Mashallah great work, keep it up brother, Allahuma Sale ala Muhammadin wa aal e Muhammad.

[shumailsyed]

Thankyou so much! God bless you! I hpe u got my email address...thanx!

[shumailsyed]

Janisar87, Very good! what a great work this is. Jazak Allah. Brother is it possible if i can get a copy of this slide by email? I do need it for preaching. May Allah give u reward for this!

[Lebanese28]

this is very true, I saw a dream once and i looked at a cloud in a dream and it said "L Illaha Illa Allah, Mohamad'on Rasoool Allah, Ali'on Waliyo Allah, Wa Fatima Sayidat Nisaa' Al Alameen" beforei saw the writings i was very depressed, but when i saw this Wallah i became very happy and felt comfort and warm from within.

[shumailsyed]

I think you should recite this alot for the success.

[Lebanese28]

I do Hamdillah, everytime I am in a bad situation i say it after prayer, I pray that i will still see these beautiful and comforting sighns, :( because of this ill world that is filled with evil, and people who wish evil and bad to others.

We have non but Allah, and the guidenes is Ahl Bayt Rasool Allah.

Really it hurts to be in this world, when these people have gotten to apoint when they have forgoten religion and justice, and all they do is opress and act selfishly, may those be cursed

[fardanio]

if i tell u something please dont laugh i swear it and muslims dont lie . . .

my friend is sunni in my dreams i saw him praying for the way of the christians what i ment is there were 2 sides the muslims and the christians i saw my self on the muslim side and him the sunni on the christian side when i did 1 step to the christian side there was a big angry voice and a bad felling coming to me but on muslim side not when i had that dream i was really like sobhanallah thank you allah

[Lebanese28]

Al Hamd lilah, may we all be guided and be given mercy in this life and in the after.

Allah (SWT) guides those he wishes and puts in darkness those he pleases and to him belongs all Hamd.

[fardanio]

my brother i had an dream far from u bt in my dream shias were right either ,

[Lebanese28]

May we all be guided and given mercy in this life and the after Insha Allah

My dear brother, I have learned that we shouldnt ever tell those who worship Allah (SWT) that they might be sent to hell, no matter of what sect their from.

A Muslim is one who has submitted and became witness that there is no God but Allah and has not worshiped other then him, but a beleiver is one who belief has been established in his Muslim heart

[Lebanese28]

With what we have been shown or what we have seen, let us pray that we will be of those who attain heaven and the mercy of Allah (SWT)

Let us not fall victim to the ways in which we are tempted to act arrogant when we wish to be better then others..

Allah knows best, and on this matter, I have come to see that we should correct ourselves before looking at others, for one cant really see himself as well as he is able to more easily view other

My best wishes to you brother & Suni and Shia

[MAFHHZB]

great....but very slow paced. But great!