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  • US has nuclear weapon so y not iran?

    if iran shouldnt have it, then should the US

  • we are so scared of Iran obtaining nukes when Israel already has over 1000 nukes LOL... We should be scared of the jews! If you dont believe me read the old testament of the Bible, the jews are fucking crazy violent, killing people left and right because they dont believe in jahova, murdering the first born child of everyone in Egypt, blowing up 2 cities (sodom and gomorrah) the jews are fucking psycho.

  • propaganda

  • I hate it when they put bunch of Indians and pakistanis in any movie or documentary and presenting them to stupid minds in the US as Iranians! I hate it

  • busted.

  • Irans eastern neighbors Pakistan has nukes and Afghanistan is US battlefield. Their western neighbor Iraq has been neutered by the US and so they are fresh out of friends in the neighborhood. If they try to nuke Israel they will be killing Palestinians and irradiating Sunni Arab states, which is a bad idea. They aren't paranoid because their fear is justified - they are pretty much surrounded. They are just crazy enough to use nukes on a bad turban day. That would be their LAST mistake-KaBOOM!

  • We will know for sure when Iran is close to being dangerous because Israel will thump them in short order. I wish the Iranian citizens would step up and revolt against their oppressors at the opportune time. There are a bunch of good freedom loving people in Iran that deserve legitimate leadership.

  • yeah we want atomic bomb & we want to nuke some american fat ass

  • @khaloo66 lol....do you think you will be able to live after that?????? you are just an ignorant muslim fuck!!!!

  • i really think this is all bullshit. those pix can be like 5 years apart and they can lie and say its just days or hours apart. i like N. GEO but when it comes to politics i just think they lie like Fox News

  • The CIA should use google earth, and we should invade iran from both sides!

  • Kinda looks like how Area 51 looks like on Google Earth

  • the bombs dropped STOPPED further atrocities in the entire world!

  • Why should Israel be allowed to have nuclear weapons and Iran not? Either no one has it (not the US not Russa not China not Israel not India...) or everyone can have it. Everything else is bull. I for one would vote for 'no one has it'.

  • I'm kind of disappointed they are using the Hubble for military(spy) purposes .

    Instead of science :>(

  • why is the u.s. keep making up stuff thats probably not true, these people are brain washing others into a pointless war that will end humanity.

  • But I thought we were at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eurasia. One day this will be put into the memory hole and the next war will begin. Orwell was so spot on.

  • that man is evil and must be stoped

  • simple solution, must strike first...either that or we will die.

  • i say nuke 'em while we still can and have the chance... problem solved.

  • exactly

  • um,i guess the end of the world would solve the problem.all problems,... way to think this through. ever think of getting in to civics?

  • King of the world wannabe - barry hussain obomba tried kissing the asses of the middle eastern people, it does not work. You mention that I should lean some civics? The only civics that work on these prehistoric humans is too out-kill them faster than they can kill us. As i see it, the only civics that work are made by honda and have 4 wheels.

  • i can see you're reading comprehension is not so good

    i asked if you ever thought of getting into civics which is another name for politics. because of you're careless attitude. 1st of all iran is anything but pre -historic .really, learn something about the world and whom you want to nuke before spouting off on the internet...you look like an ass to anyone with an education.thats a fact you are entitled to you're opinion

  • Maybe they just want them as a deterrent to being attacked like the US and most other countries that have nukes. Stalemate.

  • big maybe?

  • It is a big maybe. I'm sure the Soviet Union doubted our intentions as well. I'm glad both sides gave the other the benefit of the doubt.

  • national geoghraphic is a joke... they try

  • wtf this didn't teach me anything

  • Hold on Future Tilly is right! if this simple common sense video teaches you anything -about the intentions of iran, you have got to be stupid. iran wants every AMERICAN DEAD.

  • wow watch fox news much

  • FUCK FOX NEWS..LIARS!!.. well from my point of view =)

  • Who would have thought... cave men with nuclear bombs. Ha!

  • you need to calm down. Clearly kamlasayeen has cornered you to where you are now judging a whole religion and have resorted to flat out name calling.

  • People seem to think that America is baseless in saying that other countries aren't allowed to produce nuclear weapons. First; we devoloped the technology to begin with. We should have never allowed that technology to leave our hands. Second; as Americans, we should be primarily concerned with America's safety. Allowing other nations to have nukes is detrimental to our safety, and I'll be damned if we should listen to dictators whine about it being "unfair".

  • @outlawcfh "we should have never allowed that technology to leave our hands."

    we didn't other countries figured out how to do it too. the science is over 50 years old; and it is not that difficult to understand.

  • That's exactly my point. We should have maintained a strict monopoly on nuclear arms technology, but unfortunately we didn't. Now we are left to rely on UN sanctions against 3rd world countries developing nuclear arms.

  • gosh damnit y does this guy want so much damn power

    like hes going to get away with it

    he does anything with those bombs and we are all going to die

    something like that could start a war just by having them

    people like that, that dont care about other safety, are just sick immoral bastards

  • Well, no one besides you seems to be quarreling with me, so once again you keep saying things without anything to back up your claims.

    Also, you--not me--haven't a clue about Islam. You didn't even know what the word meant.

    And for the record, its you--not me-- who has increasingly made baseless assertions and remarks. So instead of falsely calling others clueless or ignorant, perhaps you should take a moment to reflect on your own words and fairly assess their validity.

  • economy?

  • @ConservativeEyes

    Yeah great job, way to knock down anything I say by associating it with "backward Islamic thinking". I guess all you can really do is rely on vague assertions.

    Btw, whats more pathetic is your act of judging a creed/religion by its adherents, rather than simply analyzing the beliefs of the religion. Thats like me calling Christianity a religion of violent racists based on the actions of the Ku Klux Klan.

  • We need to understand that Bush lied about going to war with Iraq because Sadam wanted to convert his His OIL CURRENCY FROM Dollar to Euro.

    Iran wanted to do the same thing. They also want to connect their oil pipe to India which conflicts with US's oil pipe. They will connect to India.

    Iran wants to build nuclear plants for their county's energy so they can export more oil to other countries which will increase the economy.

    WHAT COUNTRY DOESN'T WANT THEIR ECONOMY TO INCREASE BESIDES U.S.?

  • Yes of course Bush lied. King of the world wanna-be obomba is an ass kisser and is promoting communism here in America. Which is better? At least on lil' georges watch, we are not all dead yet. A REAL President is supposed to lie, cheat steal.... waterboard - do anything that it takes as needed to save our asses. Yes, even when it includes saving the sorry asses like moctezuma112 that don not appreciate it.

  • TERYDOTCOM

    preemptive wars is the reason why terrorist are attacking us, and its illegal

    "if you want muslims to stop killing you, stop killing them."

    you must understand that Zionist practically controls US. their beliefs is to wipe out the muslims from the middle east and to brainwash people like you to do it for them.

    A REAL President is suppose to follow the Constitution, not break it.

    I'm sorry dude but if you think that lie cheat n steal leads to victory, then you r not American

  • can't we send someone over there to check it out? someone from the UN?

  • Bomb the whole place now before it is done to us.

  • Calm down, the Israeli's know where every Coca-Cola machine is. When the last coat of paint dries, they will take care of it!!!HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! LONG LIVE ISRAEL!!!

  • For this I hope you are right.

  • "the Israeli's know where every Coca-Cola machine is"

    who cares. when you witness the flood of arabs pouring into your country there is no need for a detection devise.

    knowledge is first step. second you gotta know the solution.

    keep dreaming coca-cola-man!

  • Khaloof- The solution is Coke refreshingly clear, Bomb the reactor. The JEWS know how to kick arab ass.

  • your a fucking idiot,..and iranians are not arabs

  • Muckstar23- Sorry, I meant to say Israelis kick Arab AND Iranian ass.

  • no you didnt mean to say that. you thought everyone over their is an arab. you have no clue whos who and whats really going on in the world. you have a football game mentality and are rooting for a side. your own, which can be good if you know what the fuck is going on. which you CLEARLY dont... thats a fact .you are entitled to your opiniom

  • MUCKSTAR23-

    Fact- Amadinejad wants to destroy Israel.

    Fact-Israel has right to defend itself.

    Fact-All Arabs hate Jews.

    Fact-All Jews hate them for that.

    Fact-Arabs want lost land in wars.

    Fact-Israel's right to that land lost to them. Clearly YOU don't know what's going on in the world.

  • or not

  • Leonnidik-

    Fact- Israel is not suppose to exist. Jews are not suppose to establish their own country. they are suppose to live in peace w/ others.

    Fact- Iran has and must have a right to defend themselves against bullies like Israel

    Fact- Arabs hate ZIONIST, NOT JEWS

    Fact- REAL JEWS hate Zionist for their domination

    Fact- Arabs don't want US sactions on their holy ground. THAT IS THE REASON WHY THEY ARE ATTACKING US

    Clearly the media has got to u and u are far from the truth.

  • Montezuma112-

    Every jew and non-jew is laughing at your immature 4th grade Hamas comment.

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  • Leonnidik - Really?

    So why did most people agree more on my facts than yours?

    i may be a fourth grader but i'm sure you are 30 years old and haven't graduated special-ed yet HAHA

  • @moctezuma112 Well is does, live with it. Iran is not defending itself, it wants to be the Middle Eastern power. Arabs hate Zionists and Jews. Real Jews support Zionism. Deal with it. The media is biased.

  • Seeing as how the Jews have been officially on protected status since Ayatollah Khomeini issued a fatwa protecting them, and that Iranian Jews condemned the US State department's allegations of Iranian Jews being treated like second-class citizens, I find your story of being beaten to read the Quran a bit hard to believe. Also since its a personal experience, it doesn't stand as very strong evidence.

  • nothin like putting fear in the Ameican people

  • until every other country disposes their nuclear weapons for good, every other nation has the right to have them

  • President Bush come back and vaporize all the American Hatorrrzzz!!!!

  • who cares. Iran hasn't attacked any of her neighbors in over a 100 years.

  • Why can't we all just get along? :(

  • fucking terrorist son of a bitches ill get my homeboy to send those ho's to hell to deal with my sllaaaave aka the devil to torture them for eternity

  • @wierdo963 LMFAO

  • @wierdo963 suck my balls little shit

  • where is the show on the jews nukes or the usa nukes,oh yeah they have to many for one show..ur gonna need a whole tv station to cover that

  • Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.- Matthew 22:37-39

  • @Time2Repent

    Romans 12:19-21

  • When is National Geographic doing a program showing us satellite imagery of Israel's nuclear facilities in Dimona (and possibly elsewhere?)?

  • Man propaganda geographic. Sorry tv. Im against israel.

  • Bomb those Sonzabitches already!!!

  • there is no such thing as peacefull nuclear making its the dummest excuse i have heard and that goes to every country that has nuclear bombs

  • So what will the US do now? Infiltrate the facility?

  • where is the URL

  • I love how people repeatedly lie about NOT making Nuclear facilities. Seriously, what do they think they will achieve with them? You either try to kill many people with them, and WILL FAIL, or you make them, and get them taken away, because NO ONE TRUSTS YOU, since you LIED about making them in the first place.

  • @DAMIANG17

    well what did you want to do with 10,000 nuclear warhead you produced? protecting enviroment?

    man you yanks are so ignorant.

    btw the you know the only country who misused its power.

  • WTF? How about NOT make them?  Oh wait, lets make them, kill ourselves, and kill innocent people? I am sorry, I am stupid.

  • you're right. you're really stupid. i didn't get what you said.

  • Not all Americans are that idiotic, only a vast majority...

  • hahaha lmao i'm in US. i know it

  • Lol @ you acting like some random guy on Youtube is actually responsible for producing the nukes or being involved with something other people did 50 years ago. Yea, because every American citizen is not only responsible for it, we actually get to be a part of the decision making process.

    And we're the ones who are ignorant?

  • "we actually get to be a part of the decision making process"

    there is no decision. it must not be used. as simple as this. a nuked land will not be inhabitable anymore( especialy with these new versions of the bomb)

    btw i was blaming US gov not people

  • how many sand niggers does it take to build a weapon of mass destruction?

  • @shadowperson12

    sand nigger is your father cockroach

  • @shadowperson12

    oh you're a nigger from zombia

    lol

  • fuck it... we're all waiting with itchy fingers in the end... just comes down to who scratches first...

    in the end nothing will be left except Keith Richards, cockroaches, & twinkies... then a small time there after it'll only be Keith Richards... he'll smoke the roaches & eat the twinkies in no time flat...

  • @dabatjelly

    hahahha hell funny lmao!!

  • Economic sanctions ought not be used to achieve foreign policy objectives.

    Anyone who gets the reference is amazing.

  • are you referring to the way the US and Russia offer to enrich uranium for power usage and ship it to Iran for a cheaper cost than them enriching it in their own facilities? im not sure if im right, but i want Iseetallpeople to think im amazing

  • Haha, sorry. The statement I made was one of the recent Lincoln-Douglas high school debate topics this year, and a lot of the arguments involved putting targeted economic sanctions on Iran's oil trade to pressure their government into stopping their pursuit of nuclear weapons.

  • Dont you wish Bush was president now? haha

  • So,whats basically going on is, Iran is building a nuclear weapon,which supposedly does not exist,and were just curious.but tthey say,no you can trust us,and we say ok then why cant we send drones to see whats going on????

  • Fuck you National Geographic.

  • Fucking terrorist!!

  • they probably already have the bomb.

  • There is too much spastic humor in this video, reminiscent of Fred (see; laughing). Whatever keeps you out of a full-time job is fine, but it's rather humiliating and unattractive.

  • who in the world would want unstable country to have nucler weapon well i would'nt

  • Hiding nuclear facilities are we? You missed a spot.

  • Another of US's baseless conspiracy theories. This is absolute schizophrenia at a national level - finally leading to death of innocent people and no discovery of the hypothesized WMDs.

  • still though what if it ain't

  • I would love to do that for a living.

  • as soon as Iran achieves it first nuclear bomb all hell will break loose

  • Iran actually needs a bomb.

    The two main aggressors against Iran are US & Israel both nuclear powers. Not that Iran, would ever use the bomb, but just as every other country around the world who maintains nuclear weapons, it turns any thought of military action or invasion into a less than likely scenario.

    I think they would hold the nuclear card similar to how the US does as in "no first strike".

    Also the US and many European countries are hypocrites regarding the nuclear issue.

  • @moali68

    That's right, Iran deserves a nuclear weapon! Might as well give one to afghanistan, and don't forget Iraq. The Kurds should have one too. Hamas and Hezballah should get weapons and so to should Yemen and Saudia Arabia, and Kuwait, Emerites, Bahrain, Oman and Jordon.... What a party! It would be hypocritical to deny any of them. We ALL deserve nuclear bombs.

  • You are right. Only responsible and mature countries deserve the right to maintain a nuclear deterrent.

    -Lets all just try and forget the indiscriminate nuking of hundreds of thousands of Japanese civilians.

    -The illegal invasion and war taking place in Iraq and all of the civilian deaths and countless injuries which have resulted from it.

    -The recent bombardment of Gaza's hospitals, schools, businesses, homes, any infrastructure still left standing, civilians.

    HYPOCRITES plain and simple

  • Indeed. The real Axis of Evil is Britain, America, and their monstrous bastard offspring, Israel.

  • why dont you have the balls it takes to come to America and tell me to my face that I am evil you sob... come oonn...

  • I am no ally of Islam, but my statement is fact. I dislike Jews ~ and Muslims. How do you like those apples?

  • word.//  i wish they would both just evolve already ...

  • you are not evil you are just good old fashioned dumb

    you must be from the south.

  • @moali68: Why do you feel the need to speak for the Japanese? Let them speak for themselves and shut yer yapper! One Jap is worth 10,000 muzzies. The japs taken a turn since thier aggressions in WW2, adopted a secular constitution, and become the world's greatest industrial power for thier size. All you muzzies have to offer is the qu'ran...and nobody else wants it. I envision 10 megaton car bombs and drivers dreaming of 79 virgins in paradise.

  • No person is allowed to make a reference to America's history of Nuclear attacks on the Japanese cities of Nagasaki and Hiroshima unless they are Japanese?

    muzzies? Japs?

    secular > other methods of government?

    perpetuating the 79 virgin myth?

    Dude you are part of the reason our country is so fucked up.

  • @moali68 I wonder why you seem so concerned about the people who died in Hiroshima and Nagaski, & forget about the much larger number slaughtered in Nanking in a more personal & cruel manner? Nobody "deserved" to die, I personally appreciate modern Japan & the mingling of trade. They are true leaders, but history must remain honest and Japanese know why the bombs were dropped. They keep thier silence in respect of thier own transgressions.

    The 79 virgins is not a myth in the minds of many.

  • @moali68: Yes it is my belief that any variety of secular government is better capable of preserving the rights of individuals the religious, monarchical, dictatorships, etc... Secularism is not perfect but offers the most for the most.

  • It seems like everyone has forgotten that America actually used nuclear weapons before. On people. Remember? America also prances around the world bombing and invading other lands. That's in addition to poisoning its own population. Lovely, isn't it?

  • @Mus1cChannel: That's right, America did use a Nuclear weapon, and nobody has forgotton. In fact, none hasn't been used on people since. But please ask yourself, do you remember Nanking? Pearl Harbor? Guadalcanal? Io Jima? The Phillipines? Indochina? Life and death struggles elicit life and death responses...and so it appears it will continue. So sad. I rather think you would have been happy under the samuri sword of imperial Japan.

  • Yes, I do think the world would be better if the Germans, Japanese, and Italians had been victorious. They are better people.

  • Furthermore, it was the so-called 'Allies' that provoked war.

    The U.S. and Britain represent nothingness. Materialism, McDonalds, and autism.

  • @Mus1cChannel: I love how ignorant people can only see McDonnalds, Playboy, Hollywood and Beer when they think of America. That's because it is what they want to see. They fail to notice that America went to the moon, built the Hubble telescope, went to the deepest parts of the ocean, developed air travel etc... Even the internet that you are using now was offered to the world by Americans.

    If your mind is in the gutter, that is all you will see.

  • your right

  • I wonder who was responsible for developing America's space program. Wernher von Braun ring a bell? I'm speaking of this monstrous behemoth of a system that induces sickness. Vaccinations, Fluoridation, Monsanto, and invading and bombing other lands. That's what America now represents.

  • @Mus1cChannel: Wernher von Braun was a great genius and headed up NASA for many years. He came to a place where the culture offered the resources to build a real dream & not the nazi V2 death rockets. He was not alone nor could he have been. there was a whole culture of designers machinists draftsment installers metallurgists electricians chemists physicists material fabricators etc... The Suturn V was a pyramid of technical culture. Von Braun shared a dream in a culture that could manifest it.

  • atheist live in america, otherwise that place would be one big bowl of shit

  • @HawkSmokedTempo: I agree. There is a strong historic atheist minority community in America. They have been here since the foundational documents were endorsed. They influenced the design of the Constitution & Bill of rights. In spite of what evangelical's claim.

    If the religious direct influence to altruism & charity, I am with them. If they try to influence government or education, i chop off heads! (figuratively)

    Iran is a theocracy & should not have a nuclear weapon...period!

  • @CHAS1422 I agree that iran should not have a nuclear weapons program, but they should have a nuclear plant for nuclear energy. But im guess the rest of the world isnt really biting into what they are saying, this is probably why they are doing their experiments privately

  • In a fairy tale world, sure, thats perfect!

  • OK, I'm not exactly fine with any country having nuclear weapons, and certainly not half-crazy fucktards like the majority of Iran, BUT let's not forget recent world history: the US was "certain" that Iraq had WMDs from satellite pictures too. That turned out to be false info. Are we positive that Iran is actually guilty from these photos? And, at that, is it truly right to prevent them from having the same thing so many other countries already have stockpiles of?

  • This is the controversy of nuclear proliferation. Nukes in India are fully fuctional and lethal but are accepted because of the idea that they're total safe in the hands of Indians.

  • its not a big deal imo. they cant hit america, europe could probably shoot them out of the sky.

    but i guess we all have to worry about israel. poor old israel who likes to start wars and drag us into them, the israel who starts wars it cant finish and calls on us to save their dirty ungrateful asses.

    israel is the reason we are hated. fuck israel.

  • I love when people say "I've done my research" when referring to 9/11 just because you put the words 9/11 and conspiracy into a word search on google doesn't mean research if you pull out a degree in architect and and another in munitions and explosive and showed me pictures and video that prove your hypothesis then maybe just maybe i'll take you credibility into account.

  • I always wanted to ask this: what requirements does a sovereign state needs to aquire nuclear weapons?

  • Yay. I love seeing the world from the Zionist perspective. After all, they're all 'holocaust' survivors.

  • @Mus1cChannel

    Actually, this is the perspective of westerners that are terrified of a theocracy getting nuclear weapons, and I don't appreciate your insulting those tortured by the nazis.

  • Iran sure has a history of invading neighbors, and preemptively attacking possible enemies and claiming their resources. I understand Israel not being comfortable with a nuclear Iran, but Israel is also a nuclear power itself...

     The Iranians are more sane and friendly than they're given credit for.

  • I agree with that; however, as long as those in power in Iran are still in that position the west will not trust Iran with nuclear capability.

  • So, we're suppose to feel safe with Israel having nuclear warheads?

    "We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under."

    - Martin van Creveld, September 2003 [Israeli Military Historian]

  • @Mus1cChannel and also they have this slogan back from the end of WW2 "Never again"

  • But perhaps the world should have a slogan of its own: "Never again let these predators (Jews) control us." The Bolshevik regime was the most murderous in history, and it was dominated by Jews. Fact.

  • The Jews are like a dude who goes around poking people in the eye, and then cries when one of them decides to poke back.

  • @hellagunner1 but they still have nuclear missiles...

  • @centurionl and so does every other super power? not to mention that they do not wish to be slaughtered ever again how it happened in WW2 if any race had to go through that hell, the Israelies do have a reason to have them.

  • Who says that I support their nuclear capability? Anyway, you're an anti-semite and I don't care to converse with you.

  • 'Anti-Semite' ~ No. I'm a human being who knows some stuff. I'm more of a misanthrope than anything.

    I think most humans stink. Jews included.

  • Well i know one thing when i die, I lived in a Fd up world.

  • so what??? US, Israel, Russia, China, India ..... even Pakistan have operational nuclear weapons. I guess even Saudi Arabia has it.

  • Hey you RACIST bustard, your mather should be sent to ROMAN POLANSKY for your licking their feet ... or your investment to BERNARD MADOFF.

  • Democracy is , in the famous words of Abraham Lincoln, a "government of the people, by the people, for the people".

    Now taking that into consideration, if the majority of Irani peoples are Muslims, and thus believe in the Quran as the final law, then how is it not democratic for them to have laws based on the Quran, or even--as you claim--rid them selves of the laws that contradict the Quran. Separation of church and and State is not a stipulation of democracy.

  • The earlier was a reply to Conservative eyes. Whose view seems a tad--to say the least--distorted.

  • @kamlasayeen: Abraham Lincoln was talking about a constitutional republic & not true democracy. The constitution & bill of rights are purely secular documents that protect individuals against the tyrrany of the majority. That is why there is NO state religion in America. If there is a state religion, that automatically favors a special group of deluded fools over all other groups of deluded fools. Iran is a theocratic republic, & the Qu'ran is clearly hostile & condemning to non-believing kafir.

  • A constitutional republic, also known as a representative democracy is a valid form of democracy. The majoritarian or the direct democracy, is also a valid form of a democracy. So are countries such as the People's Republic Of China, or the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea) considered forms of democracies, since they claim to serve the "true interests" of the people.

    You're not a political science major, so don't tell me what is a democracy or not.

  • Also i don't think you know as much about Islam as you let on. Because if you did, you would realize that those who do read the Quran actually practice the greater Jihad, also called the self-Jihad by me. The ones who are openly hostile to non-muslims, are ususally the pawns of power-hungry leaders such as Bin Laden. Those power hungry leaders, use particular Quranic verses, usually outside their intended context, to support their campaign of hatred.

  • The same is true for any literary work really, by taking bits and pieces here and there, a person analyzing any literary work can support a myriad of opinions about the author's intended message. Of course the person has made a fallacy and not established unity within the text or the passage. Similarly if one takes verses here and there from the Quran, without acknowledging their context, he or she can claim any thing about the intended message of the Quran.

  • @kamlasayeen: Does Islam mean Peace? Or does it mean Submission? And is this submission to all the religious absurdities of a 7th century mindset. I hear many interpretations of the same verses, so I can read myself. The Qu'ran (& Hadiths) were written with a clear message to elicit its followers to make war with, to kill, convert, or subjegate the condemned Kafir. For 100's of years Muslims successfully followed these rules. Why believe your interpretation in spite of evidence to the contrary?

  • Islam actually is derived from a few Arabic root words. The most important in our conversation are Asalama, and Salam. Salam means peace, thats why Muslims great each other with Slam-u-alaikum. Aslama means "surrender or submission" the basic idea is that you surrender your self to God, you submit to him, and you obey him, you are sincere in all things, both religious and secular, and the culmination of that surrender, submission, obedience, and sincerity leads you to peace.

  • @CHAS1422

    You keep showing your lack of Knowledge about Islam, and thus disprove your own arguments.

    The Quran is so far from being clear. In the 3rd chapter, Ale-Imran, God says that there are clear and allegorical verses in the Quran.

    The hadith as well could be interpreted in multiple ways, depending on the school of thought someone follows.

    Also theres a handful of violent verses in the Quran compared to the hundreds that promote peace in one way or another.

  • @kamlasayeen:

    Qur'an:8:65 "O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding."

    Is this what you are trying to defend? There are hundreds of verses and Hadith I could quote. You claim that Allah was speaking to Muhammed through his fairy Gabriel. I say Muhammed was manifesting a cult concept.

  • @ CHAS1422

    I don't think you paid attention to the context of the verse and especially the entire chapter. I warned you against that earlier.

    The entire chapter was revealed right after the battle at Badr. Since the Muslims had been victorious they rejoiced, took spoils, prisoners, etc. So Allah cautioned them, and reminded them that victory comes from God, and that the Muslims should fight for the truth and justice, and not for spoils or prisoners.

  • Cont..

    Also the Verse, 8-61 i believe, tells the prophet that if those who fight you incline towards peace, then be at peace, for Allah does not like transgressors.

    Therefore you claim that Allah has allowed for unlimited war against unbelievers, until there aren't any left, is baseless.

    Also if God had wanted war and violence to be paramount policy, then he wouldn't have said that there is no compulsion in relegion 2:256.

  • @kamlasayeen:

    Qur'an: 8:55: "Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve"

    Is this the word of Allah? or is Muhammed insulting those who don't believe in his cult?

    Imagine the American Bill of Rights saying "Surely the vilest of animals are those who believe in Islam". It doesn't

    The condemnation of and hostility toward disbelief is intrinsic in the Koran and Hadith.

    To claim that all this liturature is taken out of context, or misinterpreted is denial.

  • @CHAS1422

    btw, do you even know what the bill of rights and the Quran are?

    One is the term given to the first 10 amendments to the constitution of the US. The other is a book of guidance.

    The bill of rights merely protects the unalienable and natural rights of a United States Citizen (from the government).

    Whereas the Quran seeks to guide humanity to the Truth.

    I mean its like comparing apples and oranges.

  • @kamlasayeen: We seem to not be communicating. A nation that calls itself "Islamic Republic" has adopted Islam as the OFFICIAL STATE religion at EXCLUSION of all others. The Qu'ran implicitly becomes part of the constitution. Thus, I have every reason to make the comparison between constitutions. Iran IS an Islamic Republic.The Koran CLEARLY passes judgement & condemnation on disbelief, & elicits hostility towards the nonbeliever. Your denial is slippery & annoying when I can read for myself.

  • Im not going to get into the whole theocratic state part, because well people can call themselves Muslims and claim to follow the Quran, and yet at the same time they can harm innocents, deprive the orphans and the poor, treat women like animals, etc. (I'm not saying that Iran or the Iranis do this, just Muslims in general).

    You seem to think that if a person calls themselves a Muslim, then they're going to follow everything about Islam, now that is simply not true.

  • @kamlasayeen

    are you a muslim?

  • I am indeed.

  • @kamlasayeen

    why are you a muslim?

  • @Zentz29

    the answer is too long to discuss here with these stupid character counts, so message me and ill message you back.

  • Its simple. Kill them all. But no, thats impossible.