Republicans or Democrats, they're all cock-sucking douchebags. So what's the difference? This is just another corrupt lying scumbag politician, which proves my point. Politics and integrity just don't mix. Jerry Sanders is an unprincipled pile of human excrement.
This man is proof that there are good people in the world that make mistakes...
Shame on the people who can look at a loving, caring couple of homosexuals or lesbians who have been together for a long time harbouring a great relationship and say,"you are scum, you can't get married"...and why? because you don't "believe in it"?...NEWS FLASH...people didn't believe the Earth was round, but does that make it flat?
I think he has conducted himself strongly. It would be much easier for him to suppress his true opinions and emotions and he hasn't. I'm not usually for America's style of over-emoitional politics. But I think this was a justifiable exception. He seems sincere and that's hard to find in politicians. Well done, sir.
No matter how you stand on this issues that will never be fully settled. WHat this mad does in this video is simply beautiful. To swallow your pride and admit that you were wrong and follow your heart. Is something commendable. This restored my faith in our government concerning this issue.
Thank you Mayor Jerry Sanders. People like yourself keep the ribbon of hope alive for us. To those of you wanting to keep a group of people beaten down, try putting the shoe on the other foot and imagine what your life would be like if you were of the same sex bonded sexual orientation. Then try practicing.... "do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
@ choices1111: im a str8 person, i like women, but your comment that gays and lesbians will lead to end of humanity, due to the lack of reproduction, is just stupid... I know for a fact that i wont turn "HS" cause it's just not the way i am... There will always be people with different sexual orientations, don't worry... Heterosexuals, homosexuals, lesbians... all here to stay... Nobody can turn me, you, or some person with same-sex orientation in something we are not...
To those who want to ban gay marriage, take a step back and look at yourselves - history will regard you as the "Jim Crow law proponents" of this era regarding this issue. You are simply the next round of the petty, common bigots who futiley attempt to stand in the way of the natural progression of the human condition. And as always, you will lose.
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Very well could be. The gay community is capable of doing anything in support of their agenda. Blackmail is certainly not beyond the realm of possibility. Behavior does not equal person and to support gay marriage is to support the behavior which is neither decent nor natural. Being against gay marriage is not an stance that says that gay people are less important somehow but it also is saying that we will not sanction as normal a behavior that is far from it.
You people throw around that word bigotry to attempt to dissuade others from calling you out on the obvious truth. One might as well call judges bigots because they convict murderers and thieves. After all the criminals beliefs are that they're entitled to murder and steal. They were born to do it. People who are against rape are bigots too for that matter. The rapist's beliefs are that it's ok to rape so who are you to be against them?
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You may say well homosexuality (HS for short now) is victimless and with only adult volunteers behind closed doors with no one else watching that may be true. The normal kids become victims though once you parade the behavior out in public. I keep saying behavior which may be a four letter word to you but that's what it is. HS is a behavior and therefor goes beyond being a simple belief. If you want to have "marriage" then create your own, do it out of the public eye, and let society remain.
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Keep that cr*# out of our schools, off of our streets, off of our TV, and leave it behind closed doors where it belongs. No official, government sanctioned ceremony or procedure or program of any kind should be created to protect, promote, or condone a behavior that goes against the very survival of the human race.
You certainly do use a lot of words to justify yourself. You obviously pay attention somewhat to recent events if you agree that homosexuality is "victimless", but you have also obviously not done enough research if you call it a belief or behavior, of which it is neither. It is a genetic quality that determines chemically which sex a person is attracted to; countless scientific studies now support that. I say this not for your sake, since I hardly expect you to listen, but for others who can.
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Denial doesn't make the behavior normal. Calling other people bigots doesn't make the behavior normal. Insulting people doesn't make the behavior normal. Homosexuality is just plain not normal. You can thumb me down all you want but the truth about homosexuality remains just as ugly. Of course normal behavior is unacceptable to you since without normal there would be no abnormal and therefor homosexuality would then be normal!
I'm rather curious. You speak a whole lot about gay being unnatural I'm beginning to wonder whether you hold this belief about everything unnatural. Air conditioners, heaters, video games, those are unnatural along with a whole wack of other things, do you shun these as well?
And what is your proof that being gay is unnatural?
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One cannot compare HS with the list you provided, but if you wish I will give it a wack. AC is beneficial as it keeps people cool when it's hot. Heaters keep people warm when it's cold, some video games (most are horrendous) provide entertainment and learning... HS provides for the systematic elimination of the human race through the elimination of reproduction. I didn't know that proof was necessary. Cancer is natural and I view HS as a type of cancer so I guess it is natural that way.
What is "Spit take", some kind of gross HS habit? Doesn't sound very civilized.
The HS movement would like to make it mandatory though. Cancer isn't mandatory either but we sure as Hell don't want it in our body.
You missed the point anyway. What I provided was a comparison between AC, Heaters and such to HS. The first list is comprised of things that provide something beneficial to society. HS has no beneficial properties.
No one, no matter how smart they may think they are, can provide a logical argument for the perpetuation of HS. The only arguments are purely emotional from people who want to be able to do whatever they want wherever they want whenever they want no matter who it may adversely affect and no matter how naturally wrong it may be. I care mainly about any arguments other than logical ones affecting the future of the human race and the world my kids have to grow up in. HS is purely illogical.
Your arguments are unfounded. 1. Homosexuality is natural as it has been observed in over 1500 species IN NATURE 2. there is no data showing that homosexual parents negatively impact a child (in fact heterosexuals may be worse since they are the only cause of children being born out of wedlock which is the leading cause of child poverty, sickness, etc.) 3. and I'm out of space but if you want the answer to the rest of your probs... read a book
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1. It's a natural anomaly. I guess it's as natural as cancer. 2. Duuuhhh! It's pretty hard to have a child out of wedlock for homosexual partners. If I spend 5 minutes on the internet, I can find plenty of examples of negative impact including but not limited to the impact of association. 3. Someday when I have plenty of time to waste, I'll read a book.
1. I'm not going to waste time with it, but explain to me how homosexuality is harmful like cancer (and if you are thinking, "It's not procreative." then I have news for you: WE ARE OVERPOPULATED.)
You need a lesson in sociology.
And no, it's not an anomaly, it is common among animal species.
2. Alright, random-guy-on-the-internet, if there are "plenty of examples," name a few solid ones. Otherwise, you are just talking shit.
3. Clearly, you haven't read much. Your intelligence shows it.
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I've managed to find quite a few articles that refute your claims from two different angles. One angle shows that there is real damage to the lifestyle and life outlook of children raised in same-sex parented households. The other shows the serious flaws in all of the studies conducted that "show" that there is no damaging effect. So one proves you're wrong and the other proves that what you use as the basis of your claim is wrong as well.
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Unfortunately I can't post the links here. I've tried several times in different ways. If you are gay, that's your choice. But homosexuality IS like a cancer or a virus. It cannot continue without host organisms. A virus needs to find a new body to infest in order to continue to exist just like homosexuality needs new converts in order to continue. Babies are not born homosexual. They have to learn to be that way. There is no "gay" gene.
Guess what? I found an article that conclusively proves that the grand canyon was formed in an ancient battle between Narwhals and Unicorns, but I can't be bothered to say where the article is from, or check to see if it is reliable.
I hate how people don't get that the bible is based on equality, not racism and homophobic..ism...is that even a word?...anyway...I might be agnostic but I grew up with Christianity...so I know a thing or two...apparently more than most homophobes...
@Jarethenator Stop apologizing for the bible. it makes its position on homosexuality clear: God is opposed to it. Dont try and reconcile antiquated belief systems with modern struggles for freedom, they simply do not align.
Being that the parts with God in it are pretty much horse shit, I obviously don't care for those parts nor do I base opinions on those parts. I base my opinions on the parts that aren't hogwash and say things like "love thy neighbor"
"apologizing for the bible" Wtf? You don't know me at all. Do you know how much crap has happened because of this rambling, deluded, work? The only parts that are sane are the parts about peaceful stances...not that Christians today follow those...
Don't lump me in as, as a Bible-believing Christian, and adhrent to Christ's Holy Catholic Church, with those who would make apologies for the Bible's admonitions against homosexuality, along with a host of other deviations, equally condemned. I make no apologies whatsoever for the Holy Bible, Holy Mother Church, or the efforts of medieval Christendom to preserve their society from the scourge of sodomy, though regrettably, with limited success. What we need is another "Auto-da-Fe" in America.
And what is wrong with the fact that he has faced his demons and done the right thing? Give the man a break-he did a very brave thing. Probably thought like a dad instead of a politician-good for him
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Hmmmm...I wonder how many bodily harm and death threats he received before making his decision. I'm sure his daughter being a lesbian and probably disowning him if he didn't change his stance had nothing to do with it. What a rock for morals.
It comes down to equal civil rights for all Americans. I thank you. My partner of almost ten years thanks you, as do our two children. Hopefully someday we can get married in New York.
I'm straight and I support same sex marriage. I cried when i watched this. To see someone change their views and get choked up about it was moving, especially someone who in a "higher" position and is expected to remain a certain reputaion. More people need to really think about it like he has. He's very brave and I thank him.
Very little (if any) weight will be carried by explaining away the self-serving, egotistical, hateful, inequality-hailing with Biblical "proof" of what God wants.
Stop using God as a human shield when engaging in anti-gay terrorism. Equality is coming, with or without the support of a small minority of bigots.
There are no reasons for hate, only excuses, and the bigots are fast rnning out of excuses.
Look for major changes come November! Hate is dying, going down kicking and screaming.
Such a brave and righteous man.....It takes so much courage and intellectual honesty to shift one's opinion on such a controversial issue, once he has determined that he is wrong.
This is an awesome example of a REAL man! The definition of bravery is not a lack of fear, but of doing what you feel you must in spite of your fear. Thank You Mayer Sanders. You deserve much respect.
You need no Bible to know that equality is right. You do need a Bible to convince others that equlity is wrong.
If someone truly believes in equality, he can not simultaneously feel superior. Anyone who judges others is feeling superior, thus places himself above them.
I have trouble with people who demand sacrifices only of others. Supporting euqality is a no brainer; unless, of course, you have undergone a brain wash and are now speaking only from the current fundamentalist play book.
okay caesar. so you choose to do this and you have who.. jeffrey dahmer on your side?
There are thousands of homosexuals all across the world. Do not relate being in a loving same sex relationship to going out and murdering innocent gay men. Homosexuality is not a crime and does not hurt anyone. Murder does.
And yes if being with someone you love regardless of labels is perverted, then call me a pervert all you want. And no need to keep your son away, i'm a lesbian you ignorant prick
so you'd rather have thousands of people resist to act on their natural feelings? Everyone needs to love and be loved. If one has physical attraction to the same sex, they should not have to hide their feelings nor pretend to have feelings for the opposite sex just because people like you don't approve of it. If you don't like homosexuality, don't have sex with a guy. Its your choice. America is all about freedom of choice so if you don't like that then no one is forcing you to stay here.
I assume this is a response to my comments, ericam55. You are right, I really find 2 year-old sheep attractive, I think I will open a ranch in San Fransisco and raise my sheep the way I like too, with plenty of syphilis causing sex. Then I will go ahead and act on my natural tendencies towards raping and killing gay men, then eating their hearts to get closer to them. It is the natural thing to do, why not do it? Because it is sick and wrong, you freaking pervert! Stay away from my son! !#@
caesarmoridon.. you cannot "reprogram" someone from being gay, just as I cannot reprogram you from holding your breath underwater. Homosexuality, as well as child abuse are nothing to joke about. Being gay is not a sin, and it is definitely NOT a choice. Have some respect and stop spreading your ignorant and bullshit comments all over the internet.
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Do not lie to me. Do you act on your homosexual tendencies? Do you have to? If you say yes, you are a liar. I am attracted to women, could I have sex with a man? yes, does that make me a homosexual, no, it makes me someone who does not have standards. If I see an attractive woman, I do not go after her, because I have standards. Standards are a choice. Attraction is not. You choose to act on your urges, I choose to control mine. I like sheep, they are soft and cute, do I sleep with them? no!
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Can you believe this guy was once a cop? What a baby. Do what a proper father would do in this situation. Beat your daughter senseless and lock her in her room until she realizes the error of her ways. Do not make stupid changes to the statutes of the city. What a total tard. For all you idiots out there that think I am serious about beating children, grow up. Of course in my home country of Iran, we would have killed her by now. Ok I am joking about that too.
Wow, an American politician showing both honesty and integrity - not something you see very day! A republican too, impressive.
Seriously, he seems like a good man, I guess whether he is re-elected or not following this will show whether the opinions of society in general have changed as much as he says here. Would be nice to think so.
Say your daughter, or your brother/sister, or your grandson was gay... And you were a religious person. Would you throw them into the gutter because of it ? Wouldn't that be a worser 'sin' than someone being gay themselves? Wouldn't you want them to have the same rights that you do as a human being ?
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I will answer for Carl. Of course you would not throw out your child, etc. you would lock them in their room reprogramming them to sanity! Second, the only greater sin than homosexuality is Murder! So no it would not be a greater sin. Third, Jerry Sanders is a totally horrible mayor like every other San Diego Mayor since Pete Wilson. Lastly, homosexuality like all sin is always being justified or compared to other actions. It should not be, but should be looked upon in its own light or darkness.
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Are you talking to me? Why do you feel sorry for me? Because I live in an area with a bunch of homosexuals? Because I do not have a penis put up my rectum? Because I have the ability of having children with my partner? Because I do not understand the deep connection of gay companionship? I have nothing that you should feel sorry for. I have a beautiful wife, 4 beautiful children and I live in the best location in the country. Life is good for me. I am not confused about my sexual orientation.
Guess what? There are millions of homosexual senior citizens living healthy lives and there are millions of homosexual babies being born all over the world, right now.
If you love someone, you love them. Regardless of your gender or theirs. Sex is an act of love with the person you're with. What does that have anything to do with you? Love is love - why are you so greedy? Don't tell me it is a sin. According to "sin," having sex with your wife for anything other than procreation is lustful and wrong. I don't believe in sin but that doesn't mean I don't have morals. If anything, I think it's morally wrong for you to deny someone else their rights.
Equality is always the right thing. Discrimination is always the wrong thing. It takes Americans a lot longer to see the right thing, but better late than never. Bigotry is not a family value. Thank you, Mayor Sanders for finding your voice on this issue.
This post is for Mike. I feel so bad for people that are born gay and have to read posts such as yours. Dude, do you think before you hurt people, is that what your Bible taught you? Do yourself a favor and google - letter to Dr. laura.
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First of all, I want to say that Mike didn't post these messages, I am related to Mike and somehow the post used his name. Secondly, I did not post this comment to hurt, only to make aware of the judgment that God has in store for the same sex people. The gays that were born that way should be aware also that God said go forth and multiply. It is physically impossible for two men or two women to do this, so anyone can find an answer that is pleasing to them, if they look hard enough.
Hey Mike, after checking out your profile, I couldn't believe that in almost 40 years of life, you've allowed yourself to grow so narrow spiritually. OF COURSE there are gray area's in the Bible. Ask any Biblical Scholar, Theologian, Religious leader etc. and they'll point out TONS of gray area!
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to stephanie, the Bible has no gray areas, only those who choose to read it to conform to their ideas.THE PASSAGE has no gray areas, as I stated. Ask John Hagee, Ernest Angley, Oral Roberts, and the old time believers who stand up for whats right, and not what the new age churches believe.
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The Bible says that if a man lies with a man as he lies with a woman, both have committed an abomination to God. Lev. 20:13. You can get as many people you want to agree with you, but you are Hell Bound, and there is no gray area in that passage. It speaks for itself. Repent.
It doesn't say you'll go to Hell for it though. It says you should be put to death, but that's it.
Also, while Jesus says that those who disobey the law of Moses will be the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. (Matt. 5:19) Again, not so much with the Hell Bound.
And Leviticus also says you aren't allowed to wear cotton/polyester shirts (Lev 19:19) or eat bacon. (Lev. 11:7)
Galations 3:8 States "God doesn't see Male or Female". God created and IS love and expects us to look through those eyes as well. If you feel the need to Judge, feel free to read Mathew 7:1 - "Judge NOT, lest YOU be judged! Commitment, Love and Equality can NEVER be a non-Christian thing! God bless.
Carl, I don't have beef with you. I just don't think people born with green eyes or left-handedness, gay, red haired or any other non-majority way could and should just repent. Let's agree to disagree but to ask a person to change from birth is saying that God made a mistake. I'm a married man (M/F) with kids and if any were gay (or left handed, or couldn't reproduce or even uni/unsexed), I'd love them all the same and would dislike hearing people spouting "Repent". God bless you
Thank you Mayor Sanders for having the integrity to stand up for equal rights. It is rarely easy to do the right thing, especially when it involves an issue which has been deliberately politicized. This action is one that acknowledges the responsibilities of an honest leader whose feels that upholding human rights is more important than catering to the extremists in his party. Bravo!
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Any doctor or naturalist can tell you it is physically impossible for two men to have sex. The parts just dont match up. The closest thing they can do mimics normal sex and involves FECES! and only gives pleasure for one of the guys, not the other. They will live a cold, cold life, always missing the love and nurturing of a woman.
Republicans or Democrats, they're all cock-sucking douchebags. So what's the difference? This is just another corrupt lying scumbag politician, which proves my point. Politics and integrity just don't mix. Jerry Sanders is an unprincipled pile of human excrement.
GasconyKid 5 months ago
*claps*
This man is proof that there are good people in the world that make mistakes...
Shame on the people who can look at a loving, caring couple of homosexuals or lesbians who have been together for a long time harbouring a great relationship and say,"you are scum, you can't get married"...and why? because you don't "believe in it"?...NEWS FLASH...people didn't believe the Earth was round, but does that make it flat?
Jarethenator 1 year ago
That is really nice to hear. It's true.
FangFiftyFive 1 year ago
What a fag. Why would anyone approve gay rights for any reason? The only right a gay should have is the right to get help.
Dinjin1963 2 years ago
u need help.
mattlim76 2 years ago
You need lessons in spelling and grammar, but you are right.
FangFiftyFive 1 year ago
@FangFiftyFive
Cuz (Cause) I spell you as in u? Grow up.
mattlim76 1 year ago
@Dinjin1963 and the right to marry
reb2550 1 year ago
you dont have to cry about it. He may be sincere, but some think he,though clearly emotionally impacted by it, is still sincerely wrong.
but despite all that, whether he thinks being homosexual is morally right or wrong, crying about it is in bad form.
Youre a man, and above all, a human being. Conduct yourself strongly
fallenwillrise 2 years ago
I think he has conducted himself strongly. It would be much easier for him to suppress his true opinions and emotions and he hasn't. I'm not usually for America's style of over-emoitional politics. But I think this was a justifiable exception. He seems sincere and that's hard to find in politicians. Well done, sir.
PurushaDesa 2 years ago
I love this guy! We need more people like him. Anyone who opposes any kind of love needs to really take a deep look at themselves.
gabbee16 2 years ago
bravo! bravo! bravo!
cjm608 2 years ago 2
No matter how you stand on this issues that will never be fully settled. WHat this mad does in this video is simply beautiful. To swallow your pride and admit that you were wrong and follow your heart. Is something commendable. This restored my faith in our government concerning this issue.
sparticus777 2 years ago 2
That acually made me cry at the end!
audiotrauma 2 years ago 3
wow he is a brave man to just stand on what is in his heart to say and beleive in. mad props to him!!
honeyblossom17 2 years ago 2
Wow.
Takes a big man to admit that you were once wrong, in particular being a Republican commentating on such a sensitive topic.
Mad props to this guy for doing what is right.
RichardZERO 2 years ago 7
Thank you Mayor Jerry Sanders. People like yourself keep the ribbon of hope alive for us. To those of you wanting to keep a group of people beaten down, try putting the shoe on the other foot and imagine what your life would be like if you were of the same sex bonded sexual orientation. Then try practicing.... "do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
MOCowboy55 2 years ago 7
I like him! God bless him for doing that!
We should all have the right to love and share our lives with whomever we choose. I have a dream that someday all of us will have Equal Rights!
hotie22boy 2 years ago 6
Oh wow...
Amandinedinedine 2 years ago 3
He seems to be a good man.
He defied his party and his own preconceived beliefs to stand up for the most heated argument of our generation and do what he thought was right.
I respect you, sir.
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@ choices1111: im a str8 person, i like women, but your comment that gays and lesbians will lead to end of humanity, due to the lack of reproduction, is just stupid... I know for a fact that i wont turn "HS" cause it's just not the way i am... There will always be people with different sexual orientations, don't worry... Heterosexuals, homosexuals, lesbians... all here to stay... Nobody can turn me, you, or some person with same-sex orientation in something we are not...
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zvrk021 3 years ago
He's a Republican. There's a lot of pressure on him not to do this particular decent thing.
ddurkee 3 years ago 7
An incredibly moving speech. I admire this man's integrity and determination.
carlosariars 3 years ago 10
To those who want to ban gay marriage, take a step back and look at yourselves - history will regard you as the "Jim Crow law proponents" of this era regarding this issue. You are simply the next round of the petty, common bigots who futiley attempt to stand in the way of the natural progression of the human condition. And as always, you will lose.
LilaMae217 3 years ago 8
That was truly profound and courageous.
LilaMae217 3 years ago 2
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I still think there's something other than honesty behind this man's "change of heart".
choices1111 3 years ago
Thank you very much for your courageous message!
sunao999 3 years ago
Beautiful and heartfelt. Thank you Mayor Sanders! You will be remembered in history for this one...
ninaneen 3 years ago 3
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His argument is not valid... gays are not less important, their BEHAVIOR is less important. Betcha a million bucks someone´s blackmailn´ this guy
angels4friends 3 years ago
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Very well could be. The gay community is capable of doing anything in support of their agenda. Blackmail is certainly not beyond the realm of possibility. Behavior does not equal person and to support gay marriage is to support the behavior which is neither decent nor natural. Being against gay marriage is not an stance that says that gay people are less important somehow but it also is saying that we will not sanction as normal a behavior that is far from it.
choices1111 3 years ago
Your behavior is not acceptable or decent either, although I must admit that bigotry must be a normal aspect of humanity.
ankhfire0 3 years ago 6
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You people throw around that word bigotry to attempt to dissuade others from calling you out on the obvious truth. One might as well call judges bigots because they convict murderers and thieves. After all the criminals beliefs are that they're entitled to murder and steal. They were born to do it. People who are against rape are bigots too for that matter. The rapist's beliefs are that it's ok to rape so who are you to be against them?
choices1111 3 years ago
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You may say well homosexuality (HS for short now) is victimless and with only adult volunteers behind closed doors with no one else watching that may be true. The normal kids become victims though once you parade the behavior out in public. I keep saying behavior which may be a four letter word to you but that's what it is. HS is a behavior and therefor goes beyond being a simple belief. If you want to have "marriage" then create your own, do it out of the public eye, and let society remain.
choices1111 3 years ago
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Keep that cr*# out of our schools, off of our streets, off of our TV, and leave it behind closed doors where it belongs. No official, government sanctioned ceremony or procedure or program of any kind should be created to protect, promote, or condone a behavior that goes against the very survival of the human race.
choices1111 3 years ago
You certainly do use a lot of words to justify yourself. You obviously pay attention somewhat to recent events if you agree that homosexuality is "victimless", but you have also obviously not done enough research if you call it a belief or behavior, of which it is neither. It is a genetic quality that determines chemically which sex a person is attracted to; countless scientific studies now support that. I say this not for your sake, since I hardly expect you to listen, but for others who can.
ankhfire0 3 years ago 5
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Denial doesn't make the behavior normal. Calling other people bigots doesn't make the behavior normal. Insulting people doesn't make the behavior normal. Homosexuality is just plain not normal. You can thumb me down all you want but the truth about homosexuality remains just as ugly. Of course normal behavior is unacceptable to you since without normal there would be no abnormal and therefor homosexuality would then be normal!
choices1111 3 years ago
You're a fag
jeff38de 2 years ago
I'm rather curious. You speak a whole lot about gay being unnatural I'm beginning to wonder whether you hold this belief about everything unnatural. Air conditioners, heaters, video games, those are unnatural along with a whole wack of other things, do you shun these as well?
And what is your proof that being gay is unnatural?
Stephaniek236 3 years ago 5
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One cannot compare HS with the list you provided, but if you wish I will give it a wack. AC is beneficial as it keeps people cool when it's hot. Heaters keep people warm when it's cold, some video games (most are horrendous) provide entertainment and learning... HS provides for the systematic elimination of the human race through the elimination of reproduction. I didn't know that proof was necessary. Cancer is natural and I view HS as a type of cancer so I guess it is natural that way.
choices1111 3 years ago
>HS provides for the systematic elimination of the human
>race through the elimination of reproduction.
Spit take! You do know that nobody is trying to make it mandatory, don't you?
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What is "Spit take", some kind of gross HS habit? Doesn't sound very civilized.
The HS movement would like to make it mandatory though. Cancer isn't mandatory either but we sure as Hell don't want it in our body.
You missed the point anyway. What I provided was a comparison between AC, Heaters and such to HS. The first list is comprised of things that provide something beneficial to society. HS has no beneficial properties.
choices1111 3 years ago
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No one, no matter how smart they may think they are, can provide a logical argument for the perpetuation of HS. The only arguments are purely emotional from people who want to be able to do whatever they want wherever they want whenever they want no matter who it may adversely affect and no matter how naturally wrong it may be. I care mainly about any arguments other than logical ones affecting the future of the human race and the world my kids have to grow up in. HS is purely illogical.
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That it's completely unnatural, completely sickening to think about, etc is completely secondary.
choices1111 3 years ago
Your arguments are unfounded. 1. Homosexuality is natural as it has been observed in over 1500 species IN NATURE 2. there is no data showing that homosexual parents negatively impact a child (in fact heterosexuals may be worse since they are the only cause of children being born out of wedlock which is the leading cause of child poverty, sickness, etc.) 3. and I'm out of space but if you want the answer to the rest of your probs... read a book
jdubbin78 2 years ago 11
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1. It's a natural anomaly. I guess it's as natural as cancer. 2. Duuuhhh! It's pretty hard to have a child out of wedlock for homosexual partners. If I spend 5 minutes on the internet, I can find plenty of examples of negative impact including but not limited to the impact of association. 3. Someday when I have plenty of time to waste, I'll read a book.
choices1111 2 years ago
1. I'm not going to waste time with it, but explain to me how homosexuality is harmful like cancer (and if you are thinking, "It's not procreative." then I have news for you: WE ARE OVERPOPULATED.)
You need a lesson in sociology.
And no, it's not an anomaly, it is common among animal species.
2. Alright, random-guy-on-the-internet, if there are "plenty of examples," name a few solid ones. Otherwise, you are just talking shit.
3. Clearly, you haven't read much. Your intelligence shows it.
FangFiftyFive 1 year ago
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I've managed to find quite a few articles that refute your claims from two different angles. One angle shows that there is real damage to the lifestyle and life outlook of children raised in same-sex parented households. The other shows the serious flaws in all of the studies conducted that "show" that there is no damaging effect. So one proves you're wrong and the other proves that what you use as the basis of your claim is wrong as well.
choices1111 2 years ago
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Unfortunately I can't post the links here. I've tried several times in different ways. If you are gay, that's your choice. But homosexuality IS like a cancer or a virus. It cannot continue without host organisms. A virus needs to find a new body to infest in order to continue to exist just like homosexuality needs new converts in order to continue. Babies are not born homosexual. They have to learn to be that way. There is no "gay" gene.
choices1111 2 years ago
Guess what? I found an article that conclusively proves that the grand canyon was formed in an ancient battle between Narwhals and Unicorns, but I can't be bothered to say where the article is from, or check to see if it is reliable.
Sources, or it isn't legitimate.
FangFiftyFive 1 year ago
Jerry,
Whether or not you support "us," you did a fine job of showing that a politician can go against the grain and speak his true thoughts. Good job!
cvsantiago 3 years ago
go republican go
Kate18TX 3 years ago
Bravo. I applaud that man..let him be an example.
gilders16 3 years ago 2
I FULLY support gay marriage. I am straight and a VERY devout Christian and believe in EQUALITY
canyonwlkr 3 years ago 28
@canyonwlkr GREAT!
I'm glad that you feel that way
I hate how people don't get that the bible is based on equality, not racism and homophobic..ism...is that even a word?...anyway...I might be agnostic but I grew up with Christianity...so I know a thing or two...apparently more than most homophobes...
Jarethenator 1 year ago
@Jarethenator Stop apologizing for the bible. it makes its position on homosexuality clear: God is opposed to it. Dont try and reconcile antiquated belief systems with modern struggles for freedom, they simply do not align.
MuuzarMusic 8 months ago
@MuuzarMusic
Being that the parts with God in it are pretty much horse shit, I obviously don't care for those parts nor do I base opinions on those parts. I base my opinions on the parts that aren't hogwash and say things like "love thy neighbor"
"apologizing for the bible" Wtf? You don't know me at all. Do you know how much crap has happened because of this rambling, deluded, work? The only parts that are sane are the parts about peaceful stances...not that Christians today follow those...
Jarethenator 8 months ago
Don't lump me in as, as a Bible-believing Christian, and adhrent to Christ's Holy Catholic Church, with those who would make apologies for the Bible's admonitions against homosexuality, along with a host of other deviations, equally condemned. I make no apologies whatsoever for the Holy Bible, Holy Mother Church, or the efforts of medieval Christendom to preserve their society from the scourge of sodomy, though regrettably, with limited success. What we need is another "Auto-da-Fe" in America.
GasconyKid 5 months ago
And what is wrong with the fact that he has faced his demons and done the right thing? Give the man a break-he did a very brave thing. Probably thought like a dad instead of a politician-good for him
Lmad40 3 years ago 22
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Hmmmm...I wonder how many bodily harm and death threats he received before making his decision. I'm sure his daughter being a lesbian and probably disowning him if he didn't change his stance had nothing to do with it. What a rock for morals.
frogjet 3 years ago
It takes a REAL man to be brave enough to take the risk (possibly even of his career) to stand up and be counted!
Good for YOU Mayor Jerry Sanders!!!
Prop8NO 3 years ago 18
It comes down to equal civil rights for all Americans. I thank you. My partner of almost ten years thanks you, as do our two children. Hopefully someday we can get married in New York.
Mommyboots 3 years ago 12
Wow, what an amazing video. I wonder if his daughter wasn't gay he would have taken our side. Either way I am happy to see this.
Annia1979 3 years ago 2
Bravo! Bravo! Bravo!
HanginRound 3 years ago 10
this takes a lot of courage on his part.
he has given a lot of people a new reason to respect him.
MatchGirl 3 years ago 11
I'm straight and I support same sex marriage. I cried when i watched this. To see someone change their views and get choked up about it was moving, especially someone who in a "higher" position and is expected to remain a certain reputaion. More people need to really think about it like he has. He's very brave and I thank him.
tayyylove 3 years ago 22
I can think of no greater sin than using the name of God to hate.
cbran112266 3 years ago 16
cbran112266, very well put!
drewj1969 3 years ago
Very little (if any) weight will be carried by explaining away the self-serving, egotistical, hateful, inequality-hailing with Biblical "proof" of what God wants.
Stop using God as a human shield when engaging in anti-gay terrorism. Equality is coming, with or without the support of a small minority of bigots.
There are no reasons for hate, only excuses, and the bigots are fast rnning out of excuses.
Look for major changes come November! Hate is dying, going down kicking and screaming.
polkadotbox2 3 years ago 5
There should be more republicans like him
geekstar9 3 years ago 11
Incredibly brave and fair individual. God Bless.
600375206 3 years ago 14
WOW, Powerful and moving. Change is in the air.
floristguy 3 years ago 17
Good for him. This is what it's all about - someone doing what's right rather than politically expediant
cmhmuscle 3 years ago 25
Dang that looked like he was fighting with himself. Hes a great mayor I'm glad hes got re-elected!
acevedo487 3 years ago 22
Such a brave and righteous man.....It takes so much courage and intellectual honesty to shift one's opinion on such a controversial issue, once he has determined that he is wrong.
casunray 3 years ago 20
This is an awesome example of a REAL man! The definition of bravery is not a lack of fear, but of doing what you feel you must in spite of your fear. Thank You Mayer Sanders. You deserve much respect.
rigli62 3 years ago 15
You need no Bible to know that equality is right. You do need a Bible to convince others that equlity is wrong.
If someone truly believes in equality, he can not simultaneously feel superior. Anyone who judges others is feeling superior, thus places himself above them.
I have trouble with people who demand sacrifices only of others. Supporting euqality is a no brainer; unless, of course, you have undergone a brain wash and are now speaking only from the current fundamentalist play book.
polkadotbox2 3 years ago 17
This is shocking to me. What a surprise! RESPECT,RESPECT,RESPECT!
bluestar1998 3 years ago 7
okay caesar. so you choose to do this and you have who.. jeffrey dahmer on your side?
There are thousands of homosexuals all across the world. Do not relate being in a loving same sex relationship to going out and murdering innocent gay men. Homosexuality is not a crime and does not hurt anyone. Murder does.
And yes if being with someone you love regardless of labels is perverted, then call me a pervert all you want. And no need to keep your son away, i'm a lesbian you ignorant prick
ericam55 3 years ago
I have a ton of respect for that man.
gbms86 3 years ago 6
Thank you Jerry! I am going to seriously consider my options and consider a move to San Diego thanks to this!
LaReinaDelBarrio 3 years ago 3
Bravo! What a great man.
ThKiwi 3 years ago 2
so you'd rather have thousands of people resist to act on their natural feelings? Everyone needs to love and be loved. If one has physical attraction to the same sex, they should not have to hide their feelings nor pretend to have feelings for the opposite sex just because people like you don't approve of it. If you don't like homosexuality, don't have sex with a guy. Its your choice. America is all about freedom of choice so if you don't like that then no one is forcing you to stay here.
ericam55 3 years ago 3
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I assume this is a response to my comments, ericam55. You are right, I really find 2 year-old sheep attractive, I think I will open a ranch in San Fransisco and raise my sheep the way I like too, with plenty of syphilis causing sex. Then I will go ahead and act on my natural tendencies towards raping and killing gay men, then eating their hearts to get closer to them. It is the natural thing to do, why not do it? Because it is sick and wrong, you freaking pervert! Stay away from my son! !#@
caesarmoridon 3 years ago
Never be ashamed to love. Be ashamed to hate.
thursdaysrecords 3 years ago 10
Jerry is a great man.
caesarmoridon.. you cannot "reprogram" someone from being gay, just as I cannot reprogram you from holding your breath underwater. Homosexuality, as well as child abuse are nothing to joke about. Being gay is not a sin, and it is definitely NOT a choice. Have some respect and stop spreading your ignorant and bullshit comments all over the internet.
Thanks.
ericam55 3 years ago 4
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Do not lie to me. Do you act on your homosexual tendencies? Do you have to? If you say yes, you are a liar. I am attracted to women, could I have sex with a man? yes, does that make me a homosexual, no, it makes me someone who does not have standards. If I see an attractive woman, I do not go after her, because I have standards. Standards are a choice. Attraction is not. You choose to act on your urges, I choose to control mine. I like sheep, they are soft and cute, do I sleep with them? no!
caesarmoridon 3 years ago
Wow this guys has some balls! lol It takes a REAL man to admit he was wrong and RRREEEAAALLL man to cry!! Seriously! This guy is tough as nails!
JasonEyerly 3 years ago 12
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Later this man was beaten to death by Mike Huckabee and Chuck Norris.
Death2Bigots 3 years ago
I get your joke... I don't think others did lol
JasonEyerly 3 years ago
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Can you believe this guy was once a cop? What a baby. Do what a proper father would do in this situation. Beat your daughter senseless and lock her in her room until she realizes the error of her ways. Do not make stupid changes to the statutes of the city. What a total tard. For all you idiots out there that think I am serious about beating children, grow up. Of course in my home country of Iran, we would have killed her by now. Ok I am joking about that too.
caesarmoridon 3 years ago
Of course you're joking, we all know homosexuality doesn't exist in Iran.
charliebeaver 3 years ago 8
Wow, an American politician showing both honesty and integrity - not something you see very day! A republican too, impressive.
Seriously, he seems like a good man, I guess whether he is re-elected or not following this will show whether the opinions of society in general have changed as much as he says here. Would be nice to think so.
robwho2 3 years ago 5
Aww, what a good guy!
I wish all Republicans would follow suit!
truthlovetruth 4 years ago 3
Firstly carl you sound like a loser.
Secondly as the video shows...
Say your daughter, or your brother/sister, or your grandson was gay... And you were a religious person. Would you throw them into the gutter because of it ? Wouldn't that be a worser 'sin' than someone being gay themselves? Wouldn't you want them to have the same rights that you do as a human being ?
I think we all know what the correct answers are.
xpistopolo 4 years ago
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I will answer for Carl. Of course you would not throw out your child, etc. you would lock them in their room reprogramming them to sanity! Second, the only greater sin than homosexuality is Murder! So no it would not be a greater sin. Third, Jerry Sanders is a totally horrible mayor like every other San Diego Mayor since Pete Wilson. Lastly, homosexuality like all sin is always being justified or compared to other actions. It should not be, but should be looked upon in its own light or darkness.
caesarmoridon 4 years ago
I feel so sorry for you.
wingedserpant 3 years ago
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Are you talking to me? Why do you feel sorry for me? Because I live in an area with a bunch of homosexuals? Because I do not have a penis put up my rectum? Because I have the ability of having children with my partner? Because I do not understand the deep connection of gay companionship? I have nothing that you should feel sorry for. I have a beautiful wife, 4 beautiful children and I live in the best location in the country. Life is good for me. I am not confused about my sexual orientation.
caesarmoridon 3 years ago
I was so sure I was replying to somebody saying Homosexuality is second only to murder in the big line of sins against god...
wingedserpant 3 years ago
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All sins are the same.
geekstar9 3 years ago
Good for you bud!
Guess what? There are millions of homosexual senior citizens living healthy lives and there are millions of homosexual babies being born all over the world, right now.
So do as your bible says, and keep pro-creating!
cacamaymie 3 years ago 6
If you love someone, you love them. Regardless of your gender or theirs. Sex is an act of love with the person you're with. What does that have anything to do with you? Love is love - why are you so greedy? Don't tell me it is a sin. According to "sin," having sex with your wife for anything other than procreation is lustful and wrong. I don't believe in sin but that doesn't mean I don't have morals. If anything, I think it's morally wrong for you to deny someone else their rights.
naomijulia 3 years ago 12
Damn it, I hit a thumbs down instead of a thumbs up!
heddalee 3 years ago 3
BRAVO!
beirlic 4 years ago 4
Equality is always the right thing. Discrimination is always the wrong thing. It takes Americans a lot longer to see the right thing, but better late than never. Bigotry is not a family value. Thank you, Mayor Sanders for finding your voice on this issue.
thursdaysrecords 4 years ago 8
Carl, I guess my father who has a low sperm count and my cousin Jean who is infertile and can't multiply are hell bound. Interesting!
Brad67510 4 years ago 4
This post is for Mike. I feel so bad for people that are born gay and have to read posts such as yours. Dude, do you think before you hurt people, is that what your Bible taught you? Do yourself a favor and google - letter to Dr. laura.
Brad67510 4 years ago 3
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First of all, I want to say that Mike didn't post these messages, I am related to Mike and somehow the post used his name. Secondly, I did not post this comment to hurt, only to make aware of the judgment that God has in store for the same sex people. The gays that were born that way should be aware also that God said go forth and multiply. It is physically impossible for two men or two women to do this, so anyone can find an answer that is pleasing to them, if they look hard enough.
carlhatter 4 years ago
Hey Mike, after checking out your profile, I couldn't believe that in almost 40 years of life, you've allowed yourself to grow so narrow spiritually. OF COURSE there are gray area's in the Bible. Ask any Biblical Scholar, Theologian, Religious leader etc. and they'll point out TONS of gray area!
- Stephanie
StephanieKansas 4 years ago 2
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to stephanie, the Bible has no gray areas, only those who choose to read it to conform to their ideas.THE PASSAGE has no gray areas, as I stated. Ask John Hagee, Ernest Angley, Oral Roberts, and the old time believers who stand up for whats right, and not what the new age churches believe.
carlhatter 4 years ago
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The Bible says that if a man lies with a man as he lies with a woman, both have committed an abomination to God. Lev. 20:13. You can get as many people you want to agree with you, but you are Hell Bound, and there is no gray area in that passage. It speaks for itself. Repent.
MikeSaya 4 years ago
It doesn't say you'll go to Hell for it though. It says you should be put to death, but that's it.
Also, while Jesus says that those who disobey the law of Moses will be the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. (Matt. 5:19) Again, not so much with the Hell Bound.
And Leviticus also says you aren't allowed to wear cotton/polyester shirts (Lev 19:19) or eat bacon. (Lev. 11:7)
TimelordSimone 3 years ago
Galations 3:8 States "God doesn't see Male or Female". God created and IS love and expects us to look through those eyes as well. If you feel the need to Judge, feel free to read Mathew 7:1 - "Judge NOT, lest YOU be judged! Commitment, Love and Equality can NEVER be a non-Christian thing! God bless.
anjela1981 4 years ago 4
Carl, I don't have beef with you. I just don't think people born with green eyes or left-handedness, gay, red haired or any other non-majority way could and should just repent. Let's agree to disagree but to ask a person to change from birth is saying that God made a mistake. I'm a married man (M/F) with kids and if any were gay (or left handed, or couldn't reproduce or even uni/unsexed), I'd love them all the same and would dislike hearing people spouting "Repent". God bless you
Brad
Brad67510 4 years ago 4
Thank you Mayor Sanders. I wish that others would open their minds as well and then we could make a step in the right direction of equality.
raymsixsix 4 years ago 6
A rare show of compassion in politics.
Thank you, Mayor Sanders.
Dobuko 4 years ago 7
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I love gays and hate straight people. Just like Chris Crocker said, straight people are brain dead.
hotmama101996 4 years ago
I hope you are joking?
saintee1000 4 years ago
Don't do a double standard. Love everyone!
luigiman425 3 years ago
thank you sir,its about time;now only if more peopelin this contry could open there minds and think with there hearts,we can all live in peace
Darkwintersmoon 4 years ago 2
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MARRIAGE IS FOR FAGS!!!!!!
jvollmer57 4 years ago
Thank you Mayor Sanders for having the integrity to stand up for equal rights. It is rarely easy to do the right thing, especially when it involves an issue which has been deliberately politicized. This action is one that acknowledges the responsibilities of an honest leader whose feels that upholding human rights is more important than catering to the extremists in his party. Bravo!
Wildhorsewoman 4 years ago 7
Applause, Applause, Mayor and Mrs. Sanders.
San Diego has taken a bold and timely stand.
Wish we could have done this in the State of Maryland.
-Jay
jhuredhead3211 4 years ago 10
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Any doctor or naturalist can tell you it is physically impossible for two men to have sex. The parts just dont match up. The closest thing they can do mimics normal sex and involves FECES! and only gives pleasure for one of the guys, not the other. They will live a cold, cold life, always missing the love and nurturing of a woman.
TimothyRed1990 4 years ago
idiot.
flargo 4 years ago 3
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HOMOSEXUAL!
TimothyRed1990 4 years ago
you moron. homosexuality is not about butt-fucking. it's about being yourself and loving who you happen to love. two thumbs up for jerry sanders!
makepiesnotsense 4 years ago 10
Oh, it most definitely gives pleasure to both guys.
And besides, like was said, that's not the point anyway.
TimelordSimone 3 years ago