Joseph Alessi & Wycliffe Gordon - Mozart Requiem Part 1

[MitchellSamuelson]

I love Wycliffe's personality so much. Plus that whole section where he sings while he solos....... man, how awesome is that......

[kelso9319]

I don't get it. They're all playing real music, but that black guy obviously doesn't know what's going on. He's probably new to the instrument.

[thelbronius]

I respectfully disagree with your conclusion nelson. You are comparing musical taste, not the musicians themselves. The point is that both these men are at the top of their field and that by comparing them it trivializes their contributions and accomplishments. Personal taste is one thing, tone quality for example is dependent on situation. But to compare these two is akin to a pissing contest, which diminishes them and music in general.

[jarvis37th]

7:40 Bolero. Ha!

[screamingcrayo]

I enjoyed listening to this.

[hawleywe]

I've heard both of these guys in the last 4 months. Both caused me to buy new pants on my way out.

[thelbronius]

Are some of you actually comparing alessi and gordon????

Are you crazy? You think you've earned enough cred to make a statement like that?

Your preferences should not be confused with fact.

These are both amazing musicians who happen to play trombone. If you can't hear that, then you need to listen harder.

p.s. I recently Joe Alessi and his sound is incredible, it must be heard live. I'm not sure there is a microphone that can capture his sound accurately.

[bgnelson7]

@thelbronius I have played with both of these people in real life through Masterclasses. Each of them has things that are better and worse than the other. Joe has, by far, better tone quality and Gordon has much more feel soul in his music. He is also much much more upbeat and energetic with his playing. Not one can be better than the other musically. The only way to compare is to what type of music you prefer.

[TromboneMachine]

Pimp my mozart.

[freddymart]

Music is heard. If it is just imagined and not played yet, which is in the mind or soul, it's potential music, but it's not yet music.

[cowboyforrest13]

Guys, dont make fun of me, but im pretty sure i just got a boner :D

[PancakesoftheLove]

@cowboyforrest13 Perfectly natural. That's the power of the bones, baby!

[jdogh]

I hear a little bit of Bolero at 7:42 :D

[PancakesoftheLove]

Alessi's got classical trombone down to a science. Everyone knows that. But when it comes to jazz, he doesn't have *anything* on Wycliffe. There's just this unique soul to Wycliffe's tone that fits the jazz spectrum of trombone perfectly.

[Distractinator]

This makes me look at my trombone and cry.

[PancakesoftheLove]

@Distractinator Don't let it deter you, man, let it inspire you to practice and get on their level!

[sycomonkieful]

WHY ARE THERE EMPTY CHAIRS?

[gurgleface]

I heard some Bolero in there. Nice, Joe.

[gurgleface]

I feel bad for anyone in the choir who soloed between Alessi and Gordon. Jullliard boners may be awesome, but compared to those two, they sound like twelve year olds.

[PancakesoftheLove]

@gurgleface It's sad, but you're right about that. The Julliard players are fantastic, but they got walked all over by Alessi and Wycliffe, haha

[jahi5]

OH MY GOSH GOD AND GOLLY

THAT WAS AND EXPLOSION

FREAKIN AWSOME ! ! ! xD

[dluo117]

the worst part about this video...is when it ends.

[GGefter1]

Two GREAT MASTERS of our days playing/speaking/singing on/through this horn with INCREDIBLE mastery!

Bravo Maestry!

[martytrombone]

I think Mozart would have loved this performance!

[wPHao]

What are the mouthpieces that both alessi and wycliffe are playing on???

[OMGedInStoresNearYou]

a trombone off.. SICK

[fbain1horn]

8:08 made me laugh SO much

[TheCatholicBoat]

The delay in the video from the audio track is kind of annoying. Makes any hope of learning/transcribing some of these licks a lot harder.

Also, I love slowly Wycliffe plays the melody starting at about 5:16 while he's turning all his pages!

[majingaji]

boneofthewang: a very squirly double G.

[firsttrombone8]

as an aspiring trombonist....i find this amazing a

[atoman88]

lol!! i love the bolero part!! at 7:43

it made me laugh

[onyx1898]

This is AMAZING....

and Wycliffe @ around 7:52.... no words....

[TheRajaDunia]

does anyone know where i can download this music score?

[flambogularity121]

I love how Wycliffes bell is a lot smaller than Alessi's! But about the jazz-classical difference. Man, as a jazz music wannabe, I understand the difference. It is all about style. nothing complicated. Its about how you play. thats why both Joe and Wycliffe can play. Joe understands both styles and has learned how to play them.

anyone notice Joe's Bolero reference at about 7:43? or know the note he was playing at 4:54?

[boneofthewang]

@flambogularity121 Wycliffe uses a small bore jazz horn, and Alessi uses a typical symphonic .547" large bore horn. Usually when bore sizes are of significant difference, bell sizes go along with the change. Oh, and Alessi plays a double G at 4:54.

[HAVANAGILA23]

Nice! Pine Cone and Mr. Alessi!

[ggarzagarcia]

calmate. una palabra para ti: ja-ja. Y un consejo: aprende mas trombon. Y yo me culturizo, claro. "mejores musicos del mundo"? dicen eua y europa siempre; abre tus horizontes! Te dejo con esto: si quieres que pida disculpas, perdon. pero si quieres seguir de enjoado y adorar a tu mozart como un santo, entonces no lo traigas a youtube. te lo agredeceriamos mucho! (To video provider: sorry, our Spanish friend is dissapointed with Alessi and Gordon.)

[ism89]

Muy buenos musicos eso es indiscutible, pero creo que deberiais haber elegido otro tipo de obra en vez del requiem mas famoso para hacer ese tipo de arreglo, sin animo de ofender desde luego.

[ism89]

mira nenaza,lo primero es que aprendas a escribir en vez de ser tan inculto, 2º el requiem de Mozart para mi el mejor compositor del mundo, sera precisamente la mejor obra jamas escrita y 3º "guey" como dices tu, en Europa tenemos la cuna de la la musica y por supuesto los mejores musicos del mundo ok nena ? ahora la proxima vez que quieras insultar a alguien de forma gratuita por interner primero culturizate un poquito, viviras mejor, chao pelele.

[Jutrb]

@ism89 totalmente de acuerdo, creo que es una falta de respeto

[trombonedemon]

See there folks, if you got chops you can play anything you want!!!!

[trombonedemon]

You how both are efficiant, very efficiant in each others style. Its just music folks no matter the style its all the same notes, Wycliffe actually sounded like a classically train musician at one point!

[Itsdakinebrah]

trombonedemon- I'd have to disagree on that point. If it were as easy as just playing the notes then any professional could do it.

Sure, they're both incredible players. I mean, Alessi is a god at orchestral playing, but Wycliffe... The brother's got soul. As a jazz artist Wycliffe has an edge that's uniquely his; even if Alessi dedicated his life to jazz, there's no telling whether or not he'd be as great of an artist as Wycliffe.

Notes are notes, but music is much more than just that.

[trombonedemon]

Yea, hmmm, it no sense in arguing hypotheticals, but, its like if you say what if Bach were alive today, would he be a jazz or classical musician, considering the fact he improvised a lot of his pieces. You know best of both worlds, the different between jazz and classical is just feel! The notes and rythms are the same. Both can change the feel and sound. I can't tell you how many jazz musicians can read changes only hear them. I'm pretty sure Jo can hear them!

[Pippilas1993]

@Itsdakinebrah come on!!! you just said that joe alessi doesnt has soul... THEY ARE GREAT!!! THIS IS THE ONLY COMMENT THAT WE MUST POST!!!!

[Itsdakinebrah]

I had no idea that Alessi was this good at jazz. I still think he's got nothing on Wycliffe though.

[trombonedemon]

@Itsdakinebrah From what I gather reading changes is an aquired trait. No matter who you are, and well, Alessi can play any lick Wycliffe can play, If Joe put his mind to it he can get, just like if Wycliffe wanted to get a top orcheastra job he could, just preference of worlds!

[Magrakamajiora]

anyone else catch the "Bolero" quoting at around 7:46?

[bboymango]

really>?!>!

trombone harmonics??? AHAHA THAS FRIKEN GENIus ahha actually im not even sure if they were harmonics at the end.. they were just maddnes

[JEMCO2008]

Long time ago i played my conn88h

after I saw this post it is time to get it out

and SLIDE MAN SLIDE

Thank you for the post from Earl in Huntington Beach, Ca.

[rlneesam]

Trombones rule OK OK. Kicking at an open door or what?

Loved this. Soulful, doleful, mischievous, effervescent, operatic, manic, introvert, extrovert, clownish, frivolous, all things to all men

[pianomatteo]

oh man you gotta love joe just roastin those pedal tones!

[nowhereman161]

*gasp*

[Baltzy24]

shit man i wanna have that many trombones playing together all at once with me being one of them...

[zachshs]

ya i just came too.

[WCUTrombones]

this is why i play trombone. this is quite tasteful haha

[ls4hundred]

Do you go to Western Carolina?

[RastaSarah220]

Nope, West Chester University

[atoman88]

i just came

[syphlar]

Overall: just insane playing from both players, and the trombone choir is great too!

[trombonero87]

wooow nice arrangement hehe

[Fathead2324]

How fun wood tht hav been 2 play in!

[valvetrom]

I thought Peeshooter applyies to the narrow trumpets of the 40s 50s. but I can see its quite narrow too

[trombona2]

wycliffe's multiphonics around 8:00 are awesome. you can hear some melodies from his bloozbluzblues album. man they are both insane!

[srorasco1]

hmm where to find this music

[Hazendeuce]

Lol, and did anyone else notice Alessi's swung Bolero melody around 7:42

[Euphernonium]

no.....just all the people in the crowd that laughed

[Hazendeuce]

well the rest of youtube just isn't as perceptive as you are they?

[foxxiej]

Joe takes his time to play nice jazz, wycliffe just plays fast, which makes the notes a bit slurry.

[PsychedeliaIsMyLife]

Not to be rude, but Gordan's tone sounds SOO much airier than Alessi's. Might just be me, but when Gordan plays classical, I cringe.

[houseisawesome96]

I agree that it is a bit airy, but that sounds good in Jazz.

[mejones67]

Alessi's horn has a different tone. The f attachment has a richer tone than the straight tenor. The tubings are different and are supposed to give off different tenors

[matthewharris065]

Now, having said that, the thayer or whatever f attachment you have does make a difference, but not in the darknessor brightness in the horn. But some players do claim that the trigger side adds too much weight to the horn and causes it to lose some response. So to say the trigger doesn't change the sound would be wrong, but the difference in Alessi's and Wycliffe's is mainly due to the bore size difference, along with the fact Alessi plays a HUGE mpc and Wycliffe plays a smaller one!

[mejones67]

Dude you are saying the same thing. When i said the f attachment I was saying the f Attachment horn. The tubing on the horn which includes the sleeves on the slide, the extensive tubing between the bell and the larger bell size adds for a different quailty of sound even with straight trombones with the same boar size or bell size. The response is upon the player and the horn. Again it is upon the player. Response comes from the slide movement, tounging, and lips not the trigger.

[matthewharris065]

I know, I never said you were wrong, but if a younger player were to see your post, they'd be convinced that an f attachment makes everything darker and a straight horn always sounds bright. I knew you probably knew the difference when you were typing it, just put it into more specific words for people that don't know.

[matthewharris065]

The difference isn't in the valve section. What makes the difference is that Wycliffe is playing a small bore horn, .500 - .508(not sure which, the horn he plays come sin both bores). Alessi on the other hand, plays a .547 horn, which is much larger!

[syphlar]

Mouthpiece, boresize, attachment or not attachment and the size of the bell is what makes the difference, and the fact that their chops are different also plays out a big part.

[Waffl3Pr0ducti0ns]

Wow... I never heard alessi play jazz before. He doesnt come close to Gordon in jazz, but he beats Gordon in classical/concert

[blouistu101]

he actually has a love for jazz and is getting into jazz and leaving the classical community

[tbnepro123]

where'd u hear that?

[Djangoblackbird]

The former is definitely true. As for leaving classical, I highly doubt it. He sits on top of the world as far as classical trombone goes. I can't imagine him giving it up.

[dizzyjulesB]

listen to "one 4 J" of Steve Turre, there you will listen also to Joe Alessi playing Jazz - excellent

[jirotrom]

really... interesting

[nosense82]

man. theyre sick.

ive never seen alessi play jazz .

these two most be the best trombonists on this earth.

[tbnepro123]

Yes i agree with the best trombonists in the world!

[woozbud]

haha

those multiphonics at 8:00 are sick!

[trombocreator]

its hard to argue who is better. the way i see it. wycliffe is the king of jazz, and alessi is the king of everything else trombone. :)

[ao2k3productions]

Well put haha couldn't've said it better

[santiagoa991]

excelent...

[trombonehero2]

you know...there have been alot of people arguing about who's better "Wycliffe or Alessi" ... but what about that red head who plays that awseome solo at 3:40? he got like no comments... HERE'S TO YOU RED HEAD! HAPPY THANNKSGIVING!!!!

[killface962]

is he playing an alto trombone? i play trumpet so i'm only peripherally familiar with trombone stuff.

[trombonehero2]

who?

[DestinTrombonist]

hes playing an 'peashooter'

[DestinTrombonist]

Most beginning trombonists play on his type of trombone... but he just has a really nice one. :P

[tjeeta12]

most jazz musicians play straight tenors as opposed to the F attatched horns. His Bone is leaps above any mere beginner trombone.

[srorasco1]

no Gordon is playing a pea shooter its just a smaller version of the trigger trombone which Alessi is playing alto trombone has a much shorter slide than a regular trombone

[koolboy4ugrls]

are you sure Alessi is playing an alto trombone. looks like he's playing a tenor bass trombone

[musicalitymaster]

This is DancingSpacePotato on another profile, and Joe is playing a largebore Symphonic Tenor with a Axial flow valve att. I don't know the manu., but that's, sure as Hell, no Alto

[trmbnr2010]

yeah. i was like.....thats not an alto trombone.....i should know. I play trombone. Alessi is playing a largebore trombone, and Gordon is playing a tenor trombone (pea shooter)

[daDavemeister]

Wow, I just ran across this by chance. That is Kyle Covington. I played in a wind ensemble with him back in high school. Very cool guy and an incredible musician. I heard that he has been a finalist for several big auditions(including San Francisco). I don't even think he's 25 yet.

[daDavemeister]

to clarify, Kyle is the redhead you were talking about.

[trombocreator]

this is where i plan on going for my masters and doctorate degrees. to juilliard. i CANT wait. its going to be so amazing playing with these 2.

[JMR6916]

7:42 Maurice Ravel would like that trombone solo.

(I swear, he'd like it!)

[gen15mello]

Wow. What the hell did I just witness?

Trombones rock. That was patently both ridiculous and amazing at the same time.

As a horn player, I bow down to the incredible musicianship exemplified in these guys.

Nice.

[Art2Fly]

incredible tone quality and so smooth... although classical trombone does not suit Wycliffe but he still does it well

[Boutti]

And what comes to the sounds of Gordon and Alessis, you don't have to be a professor to hear that Gordons bone sound is much rawer than Alessis and that suit him. Alessis have that classical Dorsey-kind warm bone sound (especially in the high notes) which he tries to change in this piece. Good players can pley any tune they want and thats why this two are the masters in it!

[Boutti]

Actually this is Requiems third part no. 2 Tuba Mirum where bone has this solo which starts somewhere around 1:21.

[tyranorabit]

Joe Alessi sounds like a like a god!Wycliff does so many scoops that to me it sounds cornball and silly.Wycliffs intonation is far from perfect and im not in to his sound at all.

[ubjorlin]

That's simply because you are INSANE! Wycliffe is my # 1 inspiration when referencing a jazz bonist; and I come from a classical background!

[matthewharris065]

I'd sat the same thing. I like a mix between Conrad Herwig's sound, Wycliffe's technicality, along with both from Ron Wilkins.

[swilliams9922]

haha you can defenatily tell joe is classical but how he gets such a jazz feel man its amazing and gordon gezz words cant describe I say one of the best jazz trombonist alive.

[trombonastico76]

Joseph Alessi

Wycliffe Gordon

Juilliard Trombone Choir

Doesn't get much better.

[trombonehero2]

LMAO!!! go to 7:43!!! then watch Joe play bolero. . . HE MAKES BOLERO INTO A JAZZ SOLO!!! WTF!!?!? hahaha what a cheater.

[madpistol]

and right after it he does a "neener neener neener" lick (notes:F-F-D-G-F-D), to which Mr. Gordon responds with double tonguing notes while humming simultaneously... As far as I'm concerned, they're both gods in the world of trombones.

[Glockyia]

Wycliff sounds like his tone is pinched off compared to Joes.Joes such an amazingly perfect player.

[madpistol]

Wow... that's insulting. Mr. Gordon is playing on an Edwards Jazz series Trombone, which is SMALL BORE, thus the reason Mr. Gordon's tone is "pinched off". I'd like to see you make that beautiful sound with an Edwards Jazz series horn. Hey, I've got an idea! When you, Mr. Glokyia, become an Edwards sponsored player like Mr. Gordon, you can make comments like that. Thanks bud.

[trombonehero2]

lmao! i love how people argue about these two so much. Just listen to the music they make. . . WOW its amazing. lol just shut up and listen to the song already

[Enriko7BellezZe]

fantastique :-D

[trombonehero2]

omg. . . 00:56 GO WYCLIFFE!!! lol allesi must of been like "jeeze do you HAVE to show me up like that?" their both great. =D

[ngarcia25]

i love joseph and wicliffe... i love playing my trombone... im going to be like them.... even better one of these days... gotta start small, just like the rest of the legends

[Jutrb]

Some credit to the red hair boy? jajja

[shoegazer666]

Wycliffe's cool but I kinda prefer Alessi's jazz style; reminds me of the old school big band/dance kinda trombone playing.

[FUZZYisBIG]

Agreed, Gordon plays some incredibley cool stuff, but Alessi keeps it simple, clean and swinging. Ive always been a simple big band kinda guy.

[2MuchSkill]

wycliffe doesnt seem right playing classical

its just blasphemy

[dherrer1]

alessi plays very beautiful and gordon plays naaaaaaaasty!! and a goooood naaaasty!!

[madpistol]

Wycliffe is a technical marvel of Jazz! Amazing!

[jamestrbn]

I hate to say it but Wycliffe plays the pants off of Alessi....

[skahler]

I thought it was cool to see Joe Alessi play jazz haha :-D. Wycliffe is the man.

[mrcoolgenius]

I love that Wycliffe goes along with Joe Alessi for a while doing solos of about the same standard, and then just takes it to a whole new impossible level.

[mrcoolgenius]

This is like the coolest thing ever.

[shwang08]

i mean **Matt Wolford** i think

[shwang08]

hey do know if Matt Worlford is in there?

[jlevinson6]

Was that Dale Turk in the back row?

[jipibone]

wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo­oooooooooooot wycliffe !!!

[trojanbone]

I don't think that either one of these amazing players would enjoy any of the negative comments on the other. They are both awesome. They are different players with different styles. Both of them do an amazing job of playing outside of their comfort zones. Leave it at that and stop being stupid.

[mrcoolgenius]

Dude, that was great. Alessi is a really good soloist. Wycliffe was just superb though, he's like awe in trombone form.

I'm quite annoyed that Alessi stuck in that Bolero though, it's the crappest thing ever.

[vbach4290]

Gordon is great, but he ain't got nothin' on Alessi.

[lou2cv]

You can't compare them, they play in different fields.

[vbach4290]

This is true, but even playing jazz, Alessi does it better

[lou2cv]

Mouaf ! Alessi is a great classic player but definitively not jazz, or not better than Wycliffe ! .... I am a bit afraid by what you said :s

[TboneWertman]

I thinku should lay off the crack rocks vbach4290 before you go "Completly" mental.

[trombonehero2]

these two musicians working together is like heaven in the form of music. these are two of my favorite musicians besides my teacher and they are god

[TboneWertman]

Wycliffe = God

[TboneWertman]

You hear the Godness right at :56 and that just makes me want to through my horn in the fucken wall!

[OutrageousMother]

ah hell ye!

[savoybr]

just one thing: amazing!!!!!!!!!

[EdwardsT350E]

Absolutely brilliant!

[amrein]

that´s real crazy trombone world , thanks for posting,where did you get all this stuff

[XxSubzerox]

Hey Kwonotae, im rly good and recommended by a lot of music teachers and 1 musician. Like i said im going to GMEA, but besides practicing which i do a lot, can u give tips on how to play at a young age exactly like u and Joseph Alessi & Wycliffe Gordon. I get i good sound because i heard music teachers and pushed to play like them, but when i hear this i want to push myself to play like that a young age.

[kwonotae]

Thanks.

Maybe U wanna go to the Georgia Music Educators Association.

I think u must be great player now.

And there r many great players and teachers in america.

U have a lot of chances to study with them.

Just imagine what you wanna be.

concentrate your energies on your music.

If u have passion,

Dreams come true !

[trombonehero2]

hey kwontae. im just like Sub Zero. i have an extremley high range for my age and i want to play like both allessi and gordon. i had the oppertunity to meet Wicliffe and hes a very cool person. he taught me circle breathing and the dijerido sound. but im very young and i dont think i will be taken seriously in the music "business" maybe you could help me?

[trombonehero2]

also. . . sponsership help maybe?

[xDiArtsx]

yeah they both use edwards trombones, so thats prob y they r together o.o

[Rexpilot0990]

Edwards.... **shivers**

The things I'd do to own an Edwards would be illegal to type.

[XxSubzerox]

Nice video, im on my bro's account right now and i play the trombone in the 6th grade. I'm going to a Musical organization called GMEA Georgia Music Education and i forgot what the A is, well im really good. geogia's music is good, but i wish i didnt move so i can go to the one in New york where i lived. Anyway, i love this video, music is my passion.

[dragonlasers123]

Georgia Music Educators Assotiation