1987 Firecracker 400 - Finish

[gwinvader3]

LOVE THE F BOMBS

[IRLIndyCar]

Allison took 4 tires. Marcis, Kenny and Gant were sitting ducks at the end... MAN, I wanted Gant to win this one so bad.

[ToroRosso20]

Ken Schrader just wanted to see what team he would be racing for a decade later..(#33 Skoal Bandit Chevrolet)

[CDUB8989]

wait... so who won this race?

[ComicallyRacist]

Were they live on TV When Ken used explicit language? I don't care that he did, I'm just wondering if people were upset over that, seeing as Dale Jr. got penalized for saying "Shit".

[tommylord]

BUICK and OLDS finish 1st & 2nd.

Yeah baby.

[caprad]

This was live satellite feed of a race that they showed later. Back then, if you had the old huge dish, and knew where to look, you could grab live event like this. Also, this was back when NASCAR ran the race on the morning of July 4, no matter what day of the week it fell on. The announcers audio of the last few laps was then re-recorded as they watched a tape and everything was bleeped out.

[crazeejosh]

real racing. not pussified media shit.

[albertaoilers]

No plates real men!

[Moose6340]

Man. Keith Jackson could probably call a cricket match and make it sound exciting.

[aplusbobbyrhino]

It's a good thing Schrader wasn't on fire with that net stuck like that!

[MurphyMonster]

SCHRADER!!!

[MossyOakRcn42]

Lol back in those days they didn't bother to cut the audio whenever someone swore and thanks to that logic, we get to here Kenny Schrader at his best after flipping.

[KingCuervo88]

right around the 6:30 mark one of the announcer says "dammit ...."

[ROBLOXdude95]

...Bobby retired in June -.-

[CourtyardPigeon]

wow...look how little padding they had inside

[Bloomer28]

Tape Delayed on ABC back in the day, they could screw up and go back and redo before air later in the Saturday for Wide World of Sports.

[Mandipooh912]

lol nothing like a great racecar driver showing emotion at the end of a long hot day, that's Ken Schrader. Also I agree about the announcers, terrible. I miss those days when Ned Jarrett, Bob Jenkins, Benny Parsons and Ken Squire did all the races!

[Sunoco]

"Get the fucking net down" Lol

[ziggo99]

"Hold the car"

"Let it roll back"

"Roll it back"

"Roll it back"

*facepalm*

[Montoya42Fan]

I wanted Dave Marcis to win.

[3bar]

Me too

[OldSchoolNascar]

horrible call. those announcers were hopefully fired right after this race

[xobrentox]

Well, it wasn't really their fault. The modern era of timing and scoring didn't start until 1993.

[rustyshackleford01]

They were on tape delay, they didn't have to worry too much. If they messed up, they could just re record it

[gretzkysyotes]

Good thing the car didn't catch fire..........Schrader would've been cooked with all those window net problems.

[gth804f]

"I couldn't get any confirmation from you or anyone else about where the hell he was!"

hahahahahaha

[snowddoogg]

get that fucking net down lol

[jaggedlittlethrills]

Hey, I've got a riddle.

How many safety workers does it take to get a window net down?

apparently 3.

[ooeellama]

Oh, and was anybody else expecting a "Woah, nelly!" when Schrader flipped?

[jaggedlittlethrills]

I was waiting on it.

[ooeellama]

Ken: "Get that fuckin net down!"

Keith: "We'll have to redo that."

And why did that last caution have to come out? It should have been Dave's race damnit!

[TheCougarFrom1983]

OMG! What a dumbass announcer! When Ken Schrader got lose and started the wreck, that idiot wasn't even looking at the track you could tell but his loooooooong delay before he noticed Schrader wrecking

[TheCougarFrom1983]

Damn! I'm a big Dave Marcis fan and never knew that he came this close to a victory at Daytona. Damn, that woulda been so cool!

[pcm61774]

Anyone who wants to whine about today's TV coverage of auto racing needs to look at old ABC coverage of auto racing. It was awful back in the '80s! NBC sucked at it too, especially with CART races. The '88 CART Pocono 500 was one of the wort broadcasts I've ever seen.

[kidd1023]

around 5:45 you can hear one of the announcers say "we'll have to redo that whole lap" if you listen closely...he wanted to edit his horrible coverage of the last lap. not knowing who wins the race until after it's over,as an announcer that is terrible

[joncma72]

The scoring was wrong. Keith thought Allison had the lead, but then the scoring said Allison was a lap down, so Keith deferred to that. Blame the scoring!

[gth804f]

Right you are

[Banger82]

anyone know who called the race with Keith? Sounds like Donnie Allison

[racermac1988]

Love Schrader getting pissed at the rescue worker,

"Yeah, get that FUCKIN net down!"

[rockypc24]

why kenny so mad

[braves15]

On a funny note, notice the end of this video. The person who taped this race edited the broadcast version's pre-race and post-race in to give the raw feed an intro and post-race (I know because I got this same copy from the trading circuit). Notice that Schrader's F-bomb remained in the tape-delayed broadcast version. They didn't edit it out!

[e521soediv]

were they restricted for this race?????

[battalionfan888]

no but they did have smaller engines

[e521soediv]

smaller engines becuase nascar made use it?

[carguysn]

@battalionfan888 smaller carburetors 390cfm

[carguysn]

@battalionfan888 not smaller engines but 390CFM carbs rather than the 800CFM units

[Mr1963chevy]

@battalionfan888 NO THEY DIDNT HAVE SMALLER ENGINES,NASCAR WENT TO A 358 CUBIC INCH LIMIT IN 1975,AND ITS BEEN 358 EVER SINCE.NOT ONLY THAT BUT BILL ELLIOT TRIED TO RUN SMALLER CUBES IN THE NINETY'S AND NASCAR WOULDNT LET HIM,HE WANTED TO OUT GAS MILEAGE THE WITH SAY A 302,AND NASCAR SAID ,NO

[battalionfan888]

yea

[NASCARfan22k]

Actually, it was a smaller carburator, not a smaller engine.

[rbhiphopsux]

@battalionfan888

Actually,for this race and the summer race at Talladega,they used a smaller carburetor.It was'nt until the '88 Daytona 500 that they put the restrictor plate on the motors...Unfortunately...

[smackythefrog23]

@rbhiphopsux according to the wiki article about the 87 cup season talladega 1987 spring race was the last without restricted carbs.

[smackythefrog23]

@e521soediv yes, this was their first time at daytona after the plates were mandated. The talladega race earlier that spring is the race where bobby allison almost went into the grandstand at 212 mph

[bigmrclean]

@e521soediv The engines have been 358 Cubic Inches....Which is there maximum limit since the 70's when they stopped running big blocks. IE: 427 CUI, 428, 429....They ran a smaller carburetor this rac (Same size as they ran in busch series...390 CFM. Which slowed them from 210 that previous Feb. To 198. Engine's were the same size. That 390 carb is larger than the plates they use now but nevertheless killed the horsepower.

[boshenska]

I was waiting for the commentator to say: AND DOWN THE STRETCH THEY COME!!!!! :)

[doctorindy]

Later in the day, ABC re-recordered the commentary, and what we heard here was not was what aired. That was not uncommon in the days of tape-delayed races.

[pancho379]

What a gypsy-job of commentating that was..

[chrisuncleahmad]

When did ESPN first start covering the summer race at Daytona?

[battalionfan888]

1989

[wolves16]

Man Allison was hauling some ass!!!

[HomeDepot20TS]

I thought Todd Harris provided the worst racing play-by-play I'd ever heard.

I was wrong.

[IllinoisHighwayMan]

You're probably just saying that because you like the Fighting Illini. (Keith Jackson is a Michigan alumnus)

ILLINI SUCK!

[HomeDepot20TS]

Nope. Fighting Illini sounds like something I'd need to take an antibiotic for.

It was just flat terrible. I guess the modern day example would be trying to get Joe Buck or somebody to call the Daytona 500. With Tim McCarver as color analyst. God that's a nightmare.

[IllinoisHighwayMan]

Personally, I liked Keith Jackson's commentary. I'd rather hear Keith than Darrell Waltrip banter for four hours on FOX.

[HomeDepot20TS]

To each his own, in my opinion he made it painfully obvious he had no idea what the hell he was talking about.

[TheMarlboroMan69]

"Look Look Look Look Look........car #90, turning and flipping."

[wirbelwindbattleship]

Now we know what they do during commercials. It's probably like this-They curse a lot.

[legonascar88fan]

one of those commentators said "hell" alot (like about 6:41 to about 6:50)

[chicagocub1988]

Get that FUCKIN net down. I love Ken.

[racermac1988]

For all of those out there who feel that ESPN/ABC's coverage of NASCAR now is bad, just watch this... This is the posterchild of what not to do in NASCAR coverage. Why Keith Jackson ever was sent to cover racing is a mystery.

[braves15]

To defend Keith a little, though, absolutely no one knew that Bobby was on the lead lap until the end. I've heard that the MRN broadcasters were just as confused. Plus, I've read a report from a fan who was there, and he said that Allison wasn't put up as the leader on the scoreboard until right before taking the checkered. That being said, Keith wasn't the greatest, but he tried.

I did think Donnie Allison did a good job as an analyst, though.

[dinochow]

I, too, was at this race ... sitting just past the start/finish line ... got a great photo of Schrader upside down.

You are absolutely correct. Everyone thought Bobby Allison was a lap down ... I was listening to MRN on the headset radio ... they, too, thought Allison was a lap down and thought Buddy Baker had won the race for a few seconds. Bobby's number was never on the scoreboard as the leader.

Was a shame to see the last caution. Dave Marcis had the race in the bag.

[WhiteHatBobby]

This was pre-1993 NASCAR before we had the current AMB timing system.  The AMB system has solved the problem here.

[boshenska]

Thanks for posting this satellite feed!! I only remember seeing the "Wide World of Sports" version back in '87. It was tough back then to see the races...not many were broadcast live. I used to have to hunt through the TV Guide to find the race coverage (if any). But yeah, ABC was not good at all broadcasting these events back in the '80s. I like how the broadcaster said they would have to redo it because he did not know where the hell Allison was running :)

[racermac1988]

ABC="Always Bad Coverage"

Robin Miller

[braves15]

Until this raw feed came out, though, no one knew about that confusion. They re-dubbed the coverage when they showed the race later in the day, so to the general viewer it sounded like they knew Bobby was on the lead lap all along.

[WillG75]

That was some terrible coverage!

[avenged7fold332]

what network covered this race? they seemed kinda like noobs covering it.

[Buggy1Boy]

ABC Wide World Of Sports

[Buggy1Boy]

It seemed like that Kenny couldn't get the window net down.

[battalionfan888]

most likely because when he fliped the roof caved a tad making it hard to undo the window net