@tripleMmagic 185-195 if you count both legs per minute. 85-95 if only one leg (which gives you 170-190, so a bit less for both legs). or at least that's my understanding. it has been stated by great runners (gordon pirie) that optimal leg turnover of running is around 180 steps per minute, or 90 by one leg (gordon was not a track and long distance runner). bottom line is, up your turnover by 10% at least on trails.
He is demonstrating both incorrect and correct running stride. The clips alternate between the tendency of street runners to 'over commit' to foot landing and his preferable cadence.
@MorganTrevor I thought it was a heel strike at first too. The issue is the way his toes are pointing up before his feet land. Looks like he probably self corrects to prevent heel strike.
That is great advice. Looks like how I naturally ran trails years ago before "I knew better". Our cross country team go to go bushwhacking, as we called it, in the hills behind my house that I ran all the time so I was comfortable in them. Looking back now, I think our bodies often know how to do if we just listen to them instead of overriding what they do naturally!!
great stuff a few days ago i sprained my ankle on a tree root and limped a few hundred meters but then i was okay again but it could have been much worse
As odd as it might sound, when I am trail running if I step on something that 'squirms' underfoot. I instinctively get low, or purposely fall down. I committed myself to this reaction because I figure a bruise or scrape is not going to affect whether I can keep going, and very rarely is a bruise or scrape going to sideline you for weeks like a sprained ankle would. So falling down purposely may actually prevent a more serious injury.
It doesn't sound stupid. It's very basic physics. As you lower your body when your foot is on the stone or whatever, you unload your foot tremendously. It's related to centre-of-mass mechanics, or something. Can't explain from the top of my head.
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Stunr99 3 weeks ago
Does he mean 1 hundred 85 to 1 hundred 95? he said 85-95 striders per minute.
tripleMmagic 1 month ago
@tripleMmagic 185-195 if you count both legs per minute. 85-95 if only one leg (which gives you 170-190, so a bit less for both legs). or at least that's my understanding. it has been stated by great runners (gordon pirie) that optimal leg turnover of running is around 180 steps per minute, or 90 by one leg (gordon was not a track and long distance runner). bottom line is, up your turnover by 10% at least on trails.
lollobojo 1 month ago
@lollobojo edit: gordon was not a trail but a track and long distance runner.
lollobojo 1 month ago
He is demonstrating both incorrect and correct running stride. The clips alternate between the tendency of street runners to 'over commit' to foot landing and his preferable cadence.
mawharrie 2 months ago
I'd love to do the Western States 100 at some point in my life
FarAwayRunning 3 months ago
That's not a heel strike. Look at 2:15 in the video; he's clearly landing on his forefoot.
MorganTrevor 3 months ago
@MorganTrevor I thought it was a heel strike at first too. The issue is the way his toes are pointing up before his feet land. Looks like he probably self corrects to prevent heel strike.
Spaceisneat 3 months ago
@shadow, I'm sure he is fine with his heel strike after winning Badwater a couple times.
MrRunningchef 4 months ago
terrrrrrrrrible heel strike
shadow107505 4 months ago
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Great!
What about up- and down-hill running?
Thanks
MrToxsin 5 months ago
Great!
What about up- and down-hill running?
Thanks
MrToxsin 5 months ago
That is great advice. Looks like how I naturally ran trails years ago before "I knew better". Our cross country team go to go bushwhacking, as we called it, in the hills behind my house that I ran all the time so I was comfortable in them. Looking back now, I think our bodies often know how to do if we just listen to them instead of overriding what they do naturally!!
wirose1 5 months ago
Great tips, thank you - I was working on lengthening my stride on a trail today, now I know not to do that. Cheers!
BorderRebels 5 months ago
Great advice.....thank you !
2Uwildhoney 7 months ago
Face planted 7 times on my first trail 50K!
bumpshack 8 months ago 2
God i love trail running!
stevekach 1 year ago 18
@stevekach I know EXACTLY what you mean!
b4ybetime 6 months ago
Just read BTR and Scott is amazing!
elev8torguy 1 year ago 14
superb!!!
crnijezuita 1 year ago
great stuff a few days ago i sprained my ankle on a tree root and limped a few hundred meters but then i was okay again but it could have been much worse
FourSeasonRunner 1 year ago
@FourSeasonRunner
As odd as it might sound, when I am trail running if I step on something that 'squirms' underfoot. I instinctively get low, or purposely fall down. I committed myself to this reaction because I figure a bruise or scrape is not going to affect whether I can keep going, and very rarely is a bruise or scrape going to sideline you for weeks like a sprained ankle would. So falling down purposely may actually prevent a more serious injury.
P.S. Yes I know it sounds stupid.
spazzout686 10 months ago
@spazzout686
It doesn't sound stupid. It's very basic physics. As you lower your body when your foot is on the stone or whatever, you unload your foot tremendously. It's related to centre-of-mass mechanics, or something. Can't explain from the top of my head.
Jouwl 8 months ago