I was there , nearly got done for doing fish tails in my GTR LC,what a classic my mates took up a charger which got thrashed round the bullpit and camps etc,cops took the dizzy cap so they went and got another from a wrecker in town.Then it got caned till it died and after we'd had this massive fruit fight it was on its roof on fire with the channel 7 chopper filming it from above.
i was at that race with dad as a13 yr old and i can still picture those two dayglo orange commodores coming over the line side by side. With the sun getting low they did glow, well in my young eyes they did.
We must all be tarred with the same brush. I would wake up early (it started early in those days) put on my Holden jacket and watch all day. Group C was terrific.
Lot fo great clips of Brocky and what he achieved, what would be a revheads delight??? The sound of a Group C 5Ltr being revved then taken through the gears. Anyone got one they'd like to demo on here, reckon you'd be flavour of the decade the sound of that V8...and Essendon won the flag that year too!
I remember watching these guys battle out all day. I would sit watchig TV in my Holden jacket. It was awesome. It was proper racing. Race on Sunday, Sell on Monday.
I agree with you mate , this modern day series is absolute crap , cars that run today dont even have the same engine capacities as the cars on the track. Why is it that a Commodore of today is a LS3 6 + litres yet the races cars are 5 litres what a wank.
Lets get back to cars that race with the same engines as they are produced, bring in some different makes and get back to international entries such as a Jag, Aston Martins a Porsche whatever , handicapp and even it out how hard can it be.
If they dont want other cars at least make the Holdens and Fords race with the engines capacities they are supplied with on the road, the best racing and everyone knows it was the XU 1 versus GTHO Phase 3 , 5.8 ltr versus 3.3 , then A9X 5 ltr versus 5.8litre Cobras, then the VK 5 litres versus XD 5.8 ltr Dick Johnson Blue Monster and his XE Green Machine. These were the golden years and its turned into this wanky shit blueprint crap and all the cars are the same you can't tell the differance.
I remember watching this live on telly as a 14 year old, and everyone who remembers PB was right, he was a great man, and in a Touring Car, he was without peer.
Bring back Group C cars, they were so much better than the tin covered go-carts with adjustable everything we see now days. The old Group C cars were closer to ordinary road cars than you'd think, and Peter Brock was THE MASTER at driving them.
Agreed - also I very much admire Allan Grice and Allan Moffat. And DJ of course. I used to countdown the days to watch these on telly - now apart from the 1000 - has lost it's spark.
@ducatiracing Thanks for your question. The Aussies used Group C regulations (unlike rally cars and Group 3) until the end of 1984 when they swapped to Group A - which was hideously expensive compared to the old formula. I recall reading that it cost HDT approx $35k to build a Group C car, but more than $150k to build a Group A racer, which was heavier and slower.
@DunlopDaytona i the new v8 supercars may be adjustable everything.. but the rules dont let them do jack squidly. brock was a ledgend.. but this race doesnt seem fair.. his car is just so much more developed and faster then the rest.
@fergus1494 His car was within the regulations just as every other V8 Holden or Ford in that race was. You're confusing other categories which all raced within the race. Now days we only see the big bangers on the track together, back then, any kind of suitably modified vehicle could compete within that race, in it's own class. I hope that clears up what appears to be a very unfair situation for you.
@swagonwheels keeping in mind all the bullshit you find that holden did to its privateer race teams to keep an edge.. One example being when a privateer team was faster, the dealer team wouldnt give them access to a part until a few mins before the race.. of course all within the rules as with other teams having access to the parts in the race its all legal.. I think there was and still is a fair bit of stuff going on behind the scenes in racing today..
Every organisation will do what it can to make itself a winner. Ford actually produced lightweight bodies for their Falcons which were discovered by an official wondering why they had a small sign on them saying do not push.
Even in Formula One today, the very same new go faster bits are only allocated to the front runners of some of the teams.
Lets face it, Holden have dominated here, but that's only because they're better than the Falcons, lol.
@fergus1494 There's no point in using Fords failings as something to be proud of. Ford had been producing technologically outdated, heavy old vehicles for their customers, for far too long, in their efforts for greater profits. If it wasn't for the efforts of people outside Fords factory, those ancient technological dinosaurs wouldn't have got a look in.
@swagonwheels yeah but if nascar had not been so fucking single minded and purely stupid and allowed the 427 cammer engine to race i think all american makes would be alot more advanced now.. sadly no, and chev was stupid enough to dump its quad cam v8 even though they had a working prototype that made huge hp like the ford cammer.. (soc)
No point in discussing what could have been, best to stick to history and the facts relating to it.
I should point out I'd never buy a Ford, not ever, I've been a GM fan since way back in the 1950's, because in my opinion, they have always produced a better, over all, more durable vehicle for their customers. The race track is just cream for people like me, in all fairness, it really isn't an honest reflection of the vehicles we actually buy.
So over v8 supercars - bring back multi makes and classes. Ps - my mate is a total FORD NUT....he can tell you the name of the production line mans third related cousin. XA XB is his vintage. restoring a P6 LTD. Just as I love the VK Calais 'star wars' dash....I think the console aircon / heater levers are awesome.
I was there , nearly got done for doing fish tails in my GTR LC,what a classic my mates took up a charger which got thrashed round the bullpit and camps etc,cops took the dizzy cap so they went and got another from a wrecker in town.Then it got caned till it died and after we'd had this massive fruit fight it was on its roof on fire with the channel 7 chopper filming it from above.
those were the days
djjeffa 2 months ago
These were the best touring cars ever! Dayglo orange and also the race was very sad because it was classed as The Last of the Big Bangers!
puggzee1 4 months ago
i was at that race with dad as a13 yr old and i can still picture those two dayglo orange commodores coming over the line side by side. With the sun getting low they did glow, well in my young eyes they did.
7977nobby 4 months ago
I might be a Ford man, but weren't the HDT cars beautifully prepared!
dazincalculation 5 months ago
fuck those VK's look shit HOT
addyshinobi 6 months ago in playlist Bathurst
We must all be tarred with the same brush. I would wake up early (it started early in those days) put on my Holden jacket and watch all day. Group C was terrific.
tommygola 10 months ago
This was real racing, Ditch the saftey car and grow some balls, take a little responsibility and drive to the track conditions.
heinzy1 11 months ago
Lot fo great clips of Brocky and what he achieved, what would be a revheads delight??? The sound of a Group C 5Ltr being revved then taken through the gears. Anyone got one they'd like to demo on here, reckon you'd be flavour of the decade the sound of that V8...and Essendon won the flag that year too!
oztopgun 1 year ago 2
I used to love how the recovery truck would just get around at 10kmh and the drivers just dealt with it.
PeterHBne1 1 year ago
Wonder why Peter Brock didn't make a HOLDEN VK COMMODORE SS with that kit back in 1985?
Sentowon 1 year ago
I remember watching these guys battle out all day. I would sit watchig TV in my Holden jacket. It was awesome. It was proper racing. Race on Sunday, Sell on Monday.
tommygola 1 year ago
geesus mate da leg im a ford kid thru nd thru but bloody hell brockys a legend
conutach 1 year ago
lol mad think brock took over 10 cars in this vid!
Tops!!
Holdmypole 2 years ago
I wish i didnt sell my VK :(
NPearson62 2 years ago
If you see the DVD 80-83 in the newsagents its worth the 14.95 just to see Harvey in his space cadet Marlboro jacket. He was so uncool poor bastard.
mkIIrtv05 2 years ago
Thanks for putting this up man
jget67 2 years ago
that car is a weapon and the driver is a legend
xmr8ford 2 years ago
That Holden VK Commodore V8 is 1 ultimate Holden. Rip Peter Brock
SentoMehlhopt 2 years ago 12
Yup...Bring back Group C!!!! V8 Supercars today cannot hold a candle to the cars of this era.
Imagine the cars in a modern Group C.
neilo316 2 years ago
I agree with you mate , this modern day series is absolute crap , cars that run today dont even have the same engine capacities as the cars on the track. Why is it that a Commodore of today is a LS3 6 + litres yet the races cars are 5 litres what a wank.
Lets get back to cars that race with the same engines as they are produced, bring in some different makes and get back to international entries such as a Jag, Aston Martins a Porsche whatever , handicapp and even it out how hard can it be.
BrianDewy 2 years ago
If they dont want other cars at least make the Holdens and Fords race with the engines capacities they are supplied with on the road, the best racing and everyone knows it was the XU 1 versus GTHO Phase 3 , 5.8 ltr versus 3.3 , then A9X 5 ltr versus 5.8litre Cobras, then the VK 5 litres versus XD 5.8 ltr Dick Johnson Blue Monster and his XE Green Machine. These were the golden years and its turned into this wanky shit blueprint crap and all the cars are the same you can't tell the differance.
BrianDewy 2 years ago
Great stuff!!!
I remember watching this live on telly as a 14 year old, and everyone who remembers PB was right, he was a great man, and in a Touring Car, he was without peer.
Bring back Group C cars, they were so much better than the tin covered go-carts with adjustable everything we see now days. The old Group C cars were closer to ordinary road cars than you'd think, and Peter Brock was THE MASTER at driving them.
DunlopDaytona 2 years ago 16
Agreed - also I very much admire Allan Grice and Allan Moffat. And DJ of course. I used to countdown the days to watch these on telly - now apart from the 1000 - has lost it's spark.
vbvbvb088 2 years ago 6
@DunlopDaytona weren't these called group 3 not group c as that was the rally cars of this era?
ducatiracing 1 year ago
@ducatiracing Thanks for your question. The Aussies used Group C regulations (unlike rally cars and Group 3) until the end of 1984 when they swapped to Group A - which was hideously expensive compared to the old formula. I recall reading that it cost HDT approx $35k to build a Group C car, but more than $150k to build a Group A racer, which was heavier and slower.
DunlopDaytona 1 year ago
@DunlopDaytona i the new v8 supercars may be adjustable everything.. but the rules dont let them do jack squidly. brock was a ledgend.. but this race doesnt seem fair.. his car is just so much more developed and faster then the rest.
fergus1494 1 year ago
@fergus1494 His car was within the regulations just as every other V8 Holden or Ford in that race was. You're confusing other categories which all raced within the race. Now days we only see the big bangers on the track together, back then, any kind of suitably modified vehicle could compete within that race, in it's own class. I hope that clears up what appears to be a very unfair situation for you.
swagonwheels 6 months ago
@swagonwheels keeping in mind all the bullshit you find that holden did to its privateer race teams to keep an edge.. One example being when a privateer team was faster, the dealer team wouldnt give them access to a part until a few mins before the race.. of course all within the rules as with other teams having access to the parts in the race its all legal.. I think there was and still is a fair bit of stuff going on behind the scenes in racing today..
fergus1494 6 months ago
@fergus1494
Every organisation will do what it can to make itself a winner. Ford actually produced lightweight bodies for their Falcons which were discovered by an official wondering why they had a small sign on them saying do not push.
Even in Formula One today, the very same new go faster bits are only allocated to the front runners of some of the teams.
Lets face it, Holden have dominated here, but that's only because they're better than the Falcons, lol.
swagonwheels 6 months ago
@swagonwheels they are. Im still impressed that a big heavy old falcon managed to keep up with a much more developed lighter commodore.
fergus1494 6 months ago
@fergus1494 There's no point in using Fords failings as something to be proud of. Ford had been producing technologically outdated, heavy old vehicles for their customers, for far too long, in their efforts for greater profits. If it wasn't for the efforts of people outside Fords factory, those ancient technological dinosaurs wouldn't have got a look in.
swagonwheels 6 months ago
@swagonwheels yeah but if nascar had not been so fucking single minded and purely stupid and allowed the 427 cammer engine to race i think all american makes would be alot more advanced now.. sadly no, and chev was stupid enough to dump its quad cam v8 even though they had a working prototype that made huge hp like the ford cammer.. (soc)
fergus1494 6 months ago
@fergus1494
No point in discussing what could have been, best to stick to history and the facts relating to it.
I should point out I'd never buy a Ford, not ever, I've been a GM fan since way back in the 1950's, because in my opinion, they have always produced a better, over all, more durable vehicle for their customers. The race track is just cream for people like me, in all fairness, it really isn't an honest reflection of the vehicles we actually buy.
swagonwheels 6 months ago
What a LEGEND this shows that there will never ever be another LEGEND in the AUSTRALIAN MUSCLE cars ever again R.I.P BROCK miss you helps Buddy!!!!
wrigs05 2 years ago 7
vbvbvb088...you de man with this quality upload...lovin it mate...good ol dayz...
falcon0351 2 years ago 2
So over v8 supercars - bring back multi makes and classes. Ps - my mate is a total FORD NUT....he can tell you the name of the production line mans third related cousin. XA XB is his vintage. restoring a P6 LTD. Just as I love the VK Calais 'star wars' dash....I think the console aircon / heater levers are awesome.
vbvbvb088 2 years ago