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  • This is way to deep for me, me no comprenda what your getting at???

    I'll try though...

    All I do when I love a girl is bang them , it's as simple as that brother. They call me daddy, I call them slut-beast-hooker-bags, pull there hair, and spank them! When I'm done I hug em and tell em I love em! :)

    Then we start over with the bangin once they think I love em! :)

    Emotions go a long way with women! :D

  • Love you videos man.

  • oh i know. his hair looks so pretty in this vid

  • Love actually exists, and have a science-based definition. In short, according to game theory it's a survival strategy - at its most primitive level, for the genome; in more abstract applications, for ideas or "mental state kinships" (akin to tribalism). Likewise the strategy and goal orientation can be defined and expressed mathematically.

  • Expressing it mathematically would ruin it.

  • Jesus fucking christ this video was fucking awesome! Ok, now that i'm done swearing. I have to say the normal thing. I agree with you here. The video was actually pretty moving, considering the "state" i'm in. So I thankyou for that. I have been waiting for someone to say something like this, words which I cannot myself have said. Now I have it though :)

    To be able to do the loving thing, we'd have to be in a certain environment and to enter that environment, we'd have to have free will, right?

  • Hilarious, pacing back and forth in zero degree temperature, in the middle of the night, talking by yourself, holding a camera in your face, and smoking a cigarette.

    I wonder what the neighbors would think :)

    Interesting as always no less.

  • It's not fucking about how he was walking you FUCKING dumbass, it's about what he was saying.

  • wow, bad day? I hope you didn't receive my comment as criticism, it wasn't my intention. I thought it was interesting scene so I commented on it. Of course it is excellent, but this goes without saying.

  • lol yeah, bad day. My apologies.

  • Two points I would disagree with you on are love and god. I don't think love exists simply because by definition it contradicts itself and in effect it violates the law of noncontradiction.

    But I do think god exists. Whatever attributes you choose to attach to this entity are debatable but what is not debatable is that there is some source/creator that all existence sprang from and that can be proven by simple deductive reasoning.

  • God IS love though.

  • Well I will admit the only entity capable of love would be an entity not bound by physical laws, namely god. But like I said in my previous comment, there are no logical constructs (that I know of) to discern god's attributes. So your statement is just an opinion. But the fact remains, human love contradicts itself therefore it cannot be true.

    Take the statement: A = B and B ≠ C therefore A = C

    This statement is false because it violates the law of noncontradiction, as does love.

  • ZebraFeet: Could you elaborate on why love contradicts itself, please? I didn't quite get your point.

  • zebrafeet you have a zebra brain too

  • it's been said that for shit you give shit

    for a pizza, pizza

    for a dollar a dollar

    common courtesy

  • by the way what on earth is a 'true' atheist?

    LOL

    hahahahahahahahaha, oh god you made me laugh OUT loud for 'realz'

  • Bad choice of words, typical would have been more accurate. You make no points at all, just insult and for some reason, although you lack any logic, you still think you are intellectually superior. You are a "typical" atheist.

  • still very bad use of words, typical ? where? in youtube? in the world? U.S atheist? I believe not only did I say the truth in my statement but also I DID insult you, now quit being a cry baby ULTRA SENSITIVE theist.

    i lack 'any' logic? WTF!!!!!!!! ahahahahaha god, you make me laugh so much........=)

  • You're so right, I can't believe I couldn't see it before. You effectively disproved the existence of any kind of god. And just for the record those were some pretty airtight arguments. I bow to your intellectual superiority.

  • and AGAIN, you sir........you are hilarious!!

    i never said i was disproving shit, LOL

    and the last part of your comment, well ...what can i say, thank you! =)

  • i cant tell if you a seeing the holey gost

    or if it is somthing els but regardlis i defenty have to give you propes for smocking outsid and i fear the same things you do but the difrens is im cristen

  • It seems to me that the eliminitavist physicalist will always have trouble describing things like free will, qualia, intentionality, etc. Words about particles, strings, chemical reactions will never capture the full content contained in the experience of "seeing red" for example. That's why it's still a debate. No matter how much evidence the eliminitavist musters, they simply can't capture all the content of everyday language.

  • the walking in the snow sound was delightful

  • I envy and adore you azrienoch.

  • -crunching snow with a smoke

    Those were the days, just last year.

  • Well, I wouldn't worry about the scientific language replacing a more lively way of speaking in everyday use. I think we're going more the opposite direction at the moment.

  • Just wondering...according to which science, where, is determinism untenable?

  • Do you know him?

  • Who's Rocci?

    At any rate, are you sure you want the child to become a postmodernist at such a young age?

  • umm...I'm not so sure about that, but whatever.

  • Well, _are_ they heartless, meaningless. So they are not profound. But perhaps there are other things that are profound.

  • i like your shiny pretty hair against your milky white skin.

  • your Nigger Jim example is a great literary moment of mental growth.

  • Are you suggesting that free will is merely a motif, a linguistic one, akin to a literary motif (e.g. your "Christian mythos" in literature)?

  • Did you go outside in this weather without a hat?

    Dude.

    Wear a hat.

  • Another A+ thanks.

  • I love your videos. They are actually make you think unlike most other videos on here.

    Is luedke your last name?

    If so, how is it pronounced?

    I ask this because you are my role-model and I wrote a paper on you so I need to know how to say it for the peresentation.

  • Thanks! It's pronounced lud-key. If you get the chance, post the paper on a blog. I'd love to see it.

  • Jeff,

    I think this may well be one of the MOST important videos you have ever posted. Although I'm not sure I have seen every one, this one touched very deeply.

    I was about to make a flippant comment about the crunching of snow and how it is hard to bear and then you brought something better to my plate. The obliteration of the Xtain, Relgious mythos as well as the encroachment of the politically correct is a dangerous thing. I need to read Tom Sawyer now. Thank you so much!

    S Woman

  • Huckleberry Finn. You need to read Huckleberry Finn. They are very different books, even though they fit together.

  • Good video kid.

  • Can someone give me the skinny? why's he shacked up in an apartment with a pregnant spriket? Where's his wife?

  • his wife is there too. and i'm guessing spricket needs a place to crash for awhile. haha, she could always do another internet fundraiser for herself.

  • oh no, but he's never gonna fit ALL his books in a 3 man apartment.

  • lol

  • I think alot of the criticism of Az's book Absurdity of Philosophy is unfounded.

    I think the book is good because its rare to find writers who challenge tradition and create unique works for themselves.

    Although Az says hes not Transcendentalist, but still think his book is good because

    of his attempt to break new ground!

    The French Existentialists were very extreme due to the 1960's Epoch and not highly relevent to our world right now.

    Although looking at past extreme ideas is ok to study.

  • I love your philosophical videos. I'm glad I found this channel of yours.

  • oy.

    deep shit.

  • Quite a flourish there at the end about the heartlessness of science, you know of course, at its a core, it just a method, a way to describe the mystery and the madness. Science informs, if you follow it from weirding weather to real time mass extinctions, but I think we all should take warning, when say we understand the math. Your language argument on free will works for me, but of course that doesnt make it true.

  • 0 degrees? I wish it was this warm here. Imo life is only worth living passed +5F...

  • It does however sound like you are conceding that free will does not exist, and you only defend it for its linguistic purpose, just as the word God has a purpose in language.

  • It's always good for a few chuckles to watch you chain smoke and defend free will at the same time.

  • the fact is science as an institution has many things which are part of our daily existence which it fails to engage or address in any way.

    to limit ourselves to science would also be the death of science, as it's meant to be added to.

  • As far as free will goes, I think that it is most people's nature to act with morality and compassion versus what is legal or what society as a group decides. But again, I am an optimist and try to believe that all the horrors committed by people are truly from mental illness, not free will.

  • Best wishes to you and I hope that your move goes well. I used to smoke and I used to live in Michigan, so understand that it sucks to stand outside in the cold to get a smoke. I hope that it gets warmer wherever you are soon!

  • Looks like you guys up on the edge of the great white north could use some global warming. Wait.. I see into the future.. In 4 months time you will experience a great warming all around you.

    Anyway, as a Christian, I really appreciate your thoughts. It is interesting how in many ways mythos or metaphor or whatever, become not just a reflection of society but also influence it. until at last, which came first, did the mythos come out of the world or did the world come out of the myth?

  • It's not you to decide, though.

  • The whole "atoms and void" option has been on the table for thousands of years. There's a reason for the various vocabularies.

  • Condolences on the move dude. Were you able to bring 18 with you?

  • Good question, he's like part of the family.

    I can imagine Spricklet's kid call it "uncle 18", hehe.

  • events will still occur regardless of how we describe them imo

  • When i play a game of pool or snooker, i think after i strike the ball is determined.

    But before i strike i can internally negate being present to myself aiming for the corner pocket even though i saw the end pocket first.

    When i walk down a snowy path i like the sound of compacting, i negate being present to turning right and when i turn around and look at my footprints, it appears like the past essence of my footprints are fixed.

  • I think I may actually have gotten that.

  • "we don't just live by the universe's rules, we also live by societal rules" --- but society is in the universe...

  • Yes, yes! "Why" is as often prescriptive or punitive as predictive.

  • Yeah science first. let the cold hard facts lead the way. If everyone keeps in mind the electromagnetic force and that feeling is negative or lack of negative (positive) due to an electron influx/dispersal we can evolve to a 4th dimensional state of being. where your body becomes a guidance system for where these electrons go. The system notices. you have control of the shape of your surroundings. Electrons go to protons, but also protons form to electrons if there is enough of them.

  • WTF are you talking about? lol

  • Our science is the only good science!

    :p

  • Yes, way better than that of the United atheist Alliance, or the Otters!

  • Love is not irrational, though. I've explained it all in my book. Hate is irrational and that's why he tore up that letter. Slavery was based on hate and he knew that. There is a right and a wrong (a confused and a non-confused, if you will). It's just not objective and it has nothing to do with God. Nor is it subjective. We've been taught to love all things by our DNA; by our conscious experience. Some ideas are just there. See: Albert Schweitzer

  • I'm sorry, but that explanation is a bit ridiculous. It completely misses the inner turmoil Huck goes through to tear up that letter. It ignores self-sacrifice and the fear of consequences. If this is the sort of bullshit Albert Schweitzer purports, I'll be the first to say I'm glad I haven't heard of him.

  • What's ridiculous about it? I simplified Huck's motives (turmoil), of course, but I didn't say they weren't (it wasn't) there. It was in spite of the consequences that he tore up the letter. It was him saying that he knew it was unjust and if there is any (sort of spiritual/cosmic) justice inherent in the world then he would be spared. It was him saying that we (mankind) have erred and maybe even him saying that God is man-made. Admittedly, its been a while since I read it and my memory is shot.

  • hahahha, poor jeff :( Don't worry only a few more months ...

  • If he cares about the fetus, maybe he'll care about the toddler...

    Only a few more years Az.

  • Great video, I love your philosophical stuff. You should do some videos teaching philosophy, you have a talent for speaking it seems.

  • whooaa....sprickets pregnant??! whos the dad??? is she married? sorry im being nosy but its just a juicy tid bit...that would satisfy my youtube craving.

  • Yes, she announced it in a blogtv show a month or two ago. Rocci is the dad, and no, they're not married. That's about as far as I should talk about it.

  • Umm... Moving? Ummm... nevermind.

  • Moved. Whatever.

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  • I hope everything works out for you and your family unit. You do posess the strength to carry on. Without god, I have faith in you Jeff, in you!

    Thank You for the window into your life. I have learned alot since I started watching you and your creativity play out so gracfully.

    Thank You Jeff!!!

  • if i were to attempt to label my personal beliefs as close to accurately as possible it would be something that would appear as an oxymoron in many ways, as i rather consider myself an atheist who believes that god quite probably does exist but religion just has the entirely wrong idea of what god or the idea of god actually is. i can't call myself an agnostic cause i'm just too adamantly against religion and opinionated to be one. labels can be silly. thanks for another very pertinent video.

  • there is something about your delivery here that is not the you we normally see. it is almost unsettling. but it is obvious that you speak from your depths in parts.

    the library will be missed - hope the move goes well and that it is not due to bad times.

  • amen man, amen.

  • oh the cigarette, the cold, the wind, the crunching snow, the -15 degree nights, the philosophical rambalings; I miss college.

  • who is pregnant?

  • You better get your smokes in while you can. It's supposed to get down to -22 degrees tonight. Do your piercings get extremely cold in this bitter cold?

  • Well, the peircings are at the edge of extremities that are probably already frozen, so honestly, I don't know.

  • Dude, you look... completely, out of 'it.' Maybe you were just being respectful and keeping your voice low enough to not disturb the neighbors, but you sounded like there was a lot more behind the story at the end...

    Hmmm. I hope everything goes well for you, bro. I honestly do.

  • It sounds very cold out there!

    Very beautiful analysis. You make a great point, and Mark Twain did create a immense paragon in English literature with his narrative, and specially the most famous of his children: Huckleberry Finn.

    I, like Hitchens, don't think that secular belief can replace mythology in the real of art. No way.

    But at the end, you describe that scientific language as meaningless... I'm sorry to say that, although profound, mythology is as meaningless as anything else...

  • Snowy footsteps! I like the sound.

  • I imagine evolutionary biologists would claim that the decision not to give up one's friend would be based on some sense of altruism and social unity that confers some benefit to survival. One could further say that Huck's friendship with Jim was unconsciously rational in that regard. Dawkins' uses this analogy about a moth flying into a flame because it uses the moon to navigate at night. Hence, Huck's social connection module works in a way that chooses friendship over religion...

  • Rambly biology talk... Reductionism tries to edge out our "humanity" and infuse some kind of unconscious guidance that is deterministic and predictable. And I'm an atheist too. But the reductionist perspective has been nagging me my whole life... my schooling. Reducing "humanity" out of existence can be soothing to someone who cannot process emotion well... Reducing happiness and love into something formulaic and biological is soothing because it seems less mystifying...

  • I know the psychology of one who finds determinism soothing, because I've been there. There are a few topics that I've studied that have been such that once I crossed through a particular door, there was no going back, and I wondered why I was stuck in the other room for so long. And somehow I lack the verbal skill to tell the others in the other room what it is like on the other side of the door. That said, I think I understand what you're saying.

  • I need to read your book. Seriously. The humanity that resides in people that art, music, poetry, and stories try to capture can be cut apart, flayed, and dissected by science by hacks, and even though I understand much of the neurobiological basis for emotion, my intuition is that the emergent properties of humanity are not completely scientific or rational; and they cannot be described by science or reason for that purpose.

  • You've got it. Of course we could (perhaps, someday) explain Huck's actions through biological processes. But imagine that explanation. Line it up, side by side, with the quote: "All right, I'll go to Hell." Only one of those inspires us.

  • I was thinking about this today. Assessing wisdom's value by inspirational content. At the heart, I think, are questions about a "flourishing life" by some of the philosophy greats. If evolutionary biological explanations were all that was needed, having lots of money might be all we need to make us happy, but it's not. It's much more complicated that science could explain, but "unscientific" works that inspire us can be effective in putting us on a path of a "flourishing" life...

  • Moreover, try instilling moral value in a child with a scientific or logical explanation only. I don't think it would work at all. Something happened with humans that made us different. Perhaps by accident... but the "heights" that we achieved makes the reductionist understanding of other simpler organisms completely ill-equipped. We are different. All our art, music, and culture; in my opinion, proves it. Inspiration and how we use that inspiration is what makes humans human.

  • Of course it does. But truth is uninspiring. That's why people make stuff up...

  • WTF?

    how is that soothing?

    I can't process emotion well, and I don't find it soothing. At. fucking. all. But that's a question of motif, not fact.

  • What I mean is that someone prone to being hyper-rational and "scientific" might find a reduction of human emotions to something simple to be ordered, nice, and neat. The frustrating thing about emotion and inspiration for that type of person is chaos, and ordering things in a "scientific" way makes it less difficult. One of the biggest problems with that approach is that it seeks generalization through induction while individual human experience is so unique... science isn't made for that.

  • Umm, science does not simplify emotions. It barely gets a grip on them. Yet there are some things that can be surmised.

    How about if I said: "Emotional people who argue against reductionism are trying to protect mystery because it's comforting to them". How about that, huh? ... That's what I thought.

  • Why such a combative tone? Did I upset you in some way?

  • Humm, I guess. I see it as kind of a frivolous argument. It just seems extremely silly to accuse someone of trying to reason-away emotions. Like something the bad Dictator in a modern cartoon-fairitale would do. (they've done music).

  • Fair enough. I respect your right to disagree.

  • its not my business but why are you living with a pregnant Spricket24 in a new apartment away from your wife?

  • Hey cut the guy some slack he has free will - or so he believes.

  • Let's face it Channelreview, Jeff is living with two women. He has no free will!

  • Oh, I see how that looks. No, my wife is here as well. Spricket was living with us already, so she moved with us. Times are hard.

  • sorry to hear that, good luck.

  • what about memory caps, DNA methylation?

  • YOU COLLAB WITH THIS GUY NOW!

    watch?v=mEhMyrb4oiw

    YOU GO NOW!

    NOW!

  • didnt know she was pregnant

  • i have depth, i just lack good lighting.

  • lookin and soundin good baby, hope the KO trip was fun!

  • it was.

  • Thanks, and it was amazing. Wished you were there.

  • Sorry that I have to ask, I'm curious, why are you moving, I liked the old background.

  • first, :D

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